On the one hand, all the pregnancy-related items are of course very important -- but they're not particularly illuminating on a list like this. If there was a "Testicular Torsion" item marked as 100% male, that wouldn't really tell me much here either.
That does appear to be the case. Almost all of the pregnancy visits aren't done in hospital. They are clinic visits and clinical post hospital appointments. And almost all of the male admissions are trauma admissions through the ER.
And to be honest, men do have a higher rate of trauma admissions than women. While women are a bit more often admitted for medical issues. But, often have medical issues they also see a doctor for.
I disagree. It does show the contrast of what most women deal with when compared directly to the male category. And while pregnancy is specific to female (at birth), it is culturally significant because it is so prevalent.
Yes of course, that's why I said it was important. But this table is about gender disparities in specific reasons for admittance. If the ratio can't possibly be anything but 100%, what does that tell me about anything other than the self-evidently obvious?
You might as well tell me water is wet or the sky blue. Very true and both those facts are important, but neither is exactly new or surprising information.
I suppose it tells you that there is no male equivalent. I do think it’s interesting that there are so many fewer types of admission skewed toward women that fit the criteria of being skewed by 80% or more, especially when you consider the prominence of pregnancy related types.
I do also think it would be more interesting to see something like the top 15 admission types for men and top 15 for women without the 80% threshold requirement to get a wider spread of women-skewed admissions.
It doesn't compare directly to the male category because there is no male category listed.
Quite a bit of interesting information on display to be sure, but with 20% of the chart displaying information that excludes one of the two things being compared, it's not a good representation of what the title suggests.
On a chart showing male female disparity for types of cancer, ovarian and testicular would be just as irrelevant as the bottom fifth of this admissions chart.
In that last sentence of my comment, I was referring to a hypothetical cancer chart, as a comparison to the chart of this post and the inherent uselessness of including information that cannot be experienced by everyone.
This is why I hate this whole issue. For decades we use male and man and female and woman interchangeably. But now theres all sorts of people just waiting to pounce with "Well, actually....". And then, if you do say male, its fine. But if you say female, you get "Oh, look. Another incel saying female!!".
Seems like its not about communicating effectively, and more about just shitting all over things people say for worthless internet points. We all know what you meant. And it was a good point. But here we are, side stepping into this mess instead of staying focused on your point. Its all just so silly.
I mean, I know the difference between sex and gender in the English language but didn't know this also relates to male and man (if this is what it is about as the downvotes suggest)
A lot of folk are going to start going on about how one refers to sexual phenotype and one is about social gender but that isn't coming from the trans camp. I will help simplify it from a trans lens.
Male and Man are basically interchangeable from a trans perspective because people use them basically the same way - as a social Category. Calling a trans woman "male" is doing the exact same job as calling her a "man". These are not strictly scientific terms.
Male and Female are what are on legal documentation like licences or medical documents and you can get those changed and it's important to have that flexibility because a trans man rocking a full beard and having an F sex marker on his passport can get him routinely flagged by police or security with the concern his documentation is fake or erroneous and potentially cause him to be treated like a criminal and his documents tested because he doesn't look female.
Where the difference culturally matters is people sometimes do not like male or female in usage because it sounds depersonalizing. Like you are putting out an All Points Bulletin or talking about a prisoner or animal population or using medical sounding language to refer to them.
Part of my job is fitting people with custom bracing in the trauma ward. I realized this wasn't the US because there were so many cyclists, and it was lacking an atv category.
In my state the trauma ward has an ATV season. Also, I'm surprised there wasn't a subcategory for pool injuries, or at least a category for slip and falls. Are swimming pools not very popular in the UK?
General slip-and-fall doesn't seem like it would be highly gendered.
The amount of falls I'm guessing is fairly similar, but older women are a lot more likely to end up in the trauma ward from it. For one there are just more old women than old men in my area and they are far more likely to have osteoporosis.
Do you find pool injuries are overwhelmingly one sex?
I generally see a lot more young men and boys from injuries from the pool. More rough housing, diving, and running around on wet concrete.
And at the opposite end of the spectrum, how many elements for pregnancy there are as well! (And no specific Delivery, but Outcome of Delivery. Do people in US not usually give birth in a hospital?)
In the US the hospital is most common but there is a growing movement for alternative birth methods, birthing centers, at home births, being strapped to a wall and having crystals shot at you until your baby just sort of materializes, etc
I know a number of home-birthed people, including myself, and I could not describe a single parent of theirs as being anti-science. Also this graph is from English hospital admissions so cost/bills would never ever enter the equation.
Dunno about people in the US, but this chat says the information is from England. I'm guessing delivery is included in one of the other categories (probably outcome of delivery).
Seriously. As a downhill biker I count at least 5 lines for me:
Cyclist, Object Collision
Cyclist, Other
Cyclist, Non Collision Accident
Assault, Sharp object (my shins and calves are constantly being torn up by my fucking pedals. fuck those grip screws)
Struck by sports equipment
Object stuck in arse is the classic, if the anecdotes of my medical professional friends are anything to go by. Although maybe that’s already covered by “Assault, blunt object”
I live in a town which has a hospital that supports a large geographical area and as such is a major employer in the town. Many of my friends work there.
You know, a lot of women online complain about the idea that men are more horny than women, but I'd say they need to get their lost object in anal cavity requiring surgical removal numbers up if they'd like to differ.
I would put a lot of money on it not being an even split. The stories I’ve heard from hospital colleagues always involve men, to the point where one nurse I know wanted to add a plea in a local Facebook group to ask men to stop shoving household objects up their arse.
I think women have the wherewithal to use, or have easier access to, proper tapered toys. Men see a tube shaped object and go “yep, that’ll do”.
The hospital admissions are for removal of stuck foreign objects, not which gender likes bum fun the most.
I think women have the wherewithal to use, or have easier access to, proper tapered toys. Men see a tube shaped object and go “yep, that’ll do”
Some of this definitely comes from stigma, it's relatively normal for women to have sex toys, regardless of relationship status, but it's seen as sad and loser/gooner behavior if a man has sex toys. Add in inconvenience of penetrative sex toys really only being effective for prostate play for men (whereas women can use penetrative sex toys both to simulate vanilla PIV sex and for any amount of increasingly kinky fantasies) and you have the perfect recipe for horny men curious about ringing that male G-spot using whatever seems relatively safe and appropriately sized
Love that the name-calling starts once I've provided evidence to back up my claim. This is called an ad hominem attack, or narcissistic rage, in case you ever want to bring it up with your therapist. I don't know how old you are, but it's common in children, where they're not emotionally equipped to manage the frustration of being proved wrong.
It’s probably also “foreign object in body” and covers all holes, so the females are “watered” down maybe? More options, less results in each, common data issue.
My girlfriend's sister has a horse and I refuse to go near it. It's a two ton object being operated by a pea of a brain, he once got into a panic because his friend was behind him and he couldn't see him, so he ran around the field madly until he collided with a stationary tree. Oh and he's scared of blue wheelbarrows, just blue ones, wheelbarrows of any other colour or apparently acceptable.
What the hell kind of breed is two tons? The heaviest ones I know get up to about one ton, but those are big, heavy working horses, not the average riding horse.
Most horses won't be even a single ton. There are a few breeds of working horses that do get up to a ton, but most regular riding horses are a half ton, on average.
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Our icelandic horse has also stood on my foot once, but she's only about 300kg (600lbs) and didn't put much of it on that foot before I shooed her off.
Also, she's super calm about damn near everything.
First encounter with a motorised shear? Eyes wide open for a few seconds, then she's already out of fucks to give.
Shenanigans trying to craft a costume for her result in a piece of cloth suddenly covering her eyes? Eh, my humans will know what they're doing. Actually, can I eat that? Nope, apparently not. Lame.
The worst she'll do when something actually does scare her is stand up straight, refuse to move closer and rarely attempt to put a little more distance. She might unexpectedly sidestep a weird object on the roadside, but not so rapidly as to dismount my wife, and she's never run away in a panic that I know of.
And if you scratch her right, she basically melts. Scratch her ears, she'll relax her lower lip like she's losing control of her face muscles. Scratch her butt, she'll lean into it. Back away, she'll follow. It's the only case I've ever seen of a horse happily walking backwards.
Just by asking what breed such a horse could possibly be, you've exemplified more horse related knowledge than most people possess. Two tons is pretty obviously a guess by someone that doesn't know a lot about horses or other animals of similar size.
Not much different to how most people would be wrong when estimating the weight of a building, the volume of the ocean, or the quantity of trees on the planet. If it's something unfamiliar to you, you can't be expected to be accurate.
You know what, you're right. I didn't consider the perspective of people less familiar with the topic. I don't consider myself particularly knowledgeable, but that doesn't mean my knowledge is fundamental or ubiquitous.
Kudos to you. Too few are capable of this type of reflection.
When you know a bit about something, it's always an easy thing to mistakenly presume others to know what seems like the most baseline of information about the subject matter.
As it is for horses, only three breeds came to my mind. Clydesdale, carousel, and of course this genuine two ton beauty.
When you know a bit about something, it's always an easy thing to mistakenly presume others to know what seems like the most baseline of information about the subject matter.
It's a common human blind spot. I see no reason to get defensive about it. Better to admit it and improve than double down on a pointless battle with nothing to win.
I know of a lot of things that I don't know a lot about, which makes what knowledge I do have seem paltry by comparison. Exchanges like this are a handy reality check. Ideally, we can all walk away smarter for it.
As it is for horses, only three breeds came to my mind. Clydesdale, carousel, and of course this genuine two ton beauty.
Shire Horses, Brabanter (a Belgian breed, but I don't know the English name) are the ones that I can think of, but I know there's also some French breed up there. Don't think any of them can hide a crew of crafty Greeks in their belly though. "Why is this taxidermied horse's belly still moving?"
Not seeing anything inherently wrong with the data viz (obviously not talking about the veracity of the data itself or its geographic/linguistic scope as that's another matter).
if you are going to bring up comparisons based on sex, you pollute the data including things that ONLY can possibly effect one sex. what good is it to compare how much post pregnancy care effects women vs men? or to have half the comparisons divvy all the different ways you can classify a motor cycle accident, where there is the same outcome for all of them.
I assume it is based on data of people being admitted to hospitals, as titled. So my guess is this is more about how the medical system breaks the data down, and they selected for the highest disparities of reported sex.
seems to point to men getting hurt based on high risk behavior or professional expectation. but women seem to be arriving for biological functions.
though honestly if you consider child birth both a high risk behavior and and societal expectation then the comparison is valid, but more clarity on the why it’s like this would help.
My interpretation was drugs which are CNS depressants or paralytics. A benzo overdose presumably falls into this category, maybe also opioids. It can't include alcohol though, because people drinking until paralytic is not an overwhelmingly female phenomenon (I believe it is currently pretty even)
This is a goofy graph. We have all these admissions of 100% female due to being female. Where's the "had penis caught in chinese finger puzzle" admissions?
I think they should be separate. Like if a woman gives birth twice in one year (ow) that would be two visits.
Can width of bars be changed based on number of visits? The pregnancy related ones probably skew the data. I know pie charts are terrible but could they be useful in this case?
you usually see a gynecologist for pap smears once a year, but there might be one willing to do prostate exams for post-op trans women ... usually trans affirming gynecologists are for pro-op trans men
maybe post-op trans women would see a gynecologist, just not sure what for
edit: looking it up, a gynecologist is recommended for post-op trans women, looks like a gynecologist can even function as a primary care doctor!
Common reasons to go include treating granulation, checking for yeast infections and STIs, and performing pelvic exams which might catch potential cancers.
The full title of that entry is actually "Obstetric and gynaecological devices associated with adverse incidents", so maybe some of the men are actually the OB/GYN themselves that are getting injured in the course of their work? The raw number is only 19 cases, so I could see that being plausible
Alternatively, with so few cases, could it be intersex people who are still categorised as male under whatever criteria this is using? 1.7% seems a touch high for that, but maybe things go wrong more often for said intersex people
Edit: wait, 90 of the cases are 0-year-olds. I'm definitely going with injuries to babies during difficult births / C-sections / similar
The full data set (easily found on leobenedictus.substack.com) includes "Foreign body entering into or through eye or natural orifice". It's pretty evenly split, only leaning towards men by a few percentage points
Why ride in a tank and fight at a distance if you could wear a tank and ride a motorbike at breakneck speed to close into melee range? For the Khan and the Emperor!
i seeked out care because i knew what was going on with me was not normal. when i was there, i saw one women in the holding area, and one man having a break with secuirty around him. when i was admitted to the psych ward on the floor without maximum security, id say that biologically born males out numbered biologically born females
Howevever, i have been the hospital for other things, and everytime i have gone to the ER, it's been someone who identifies as a female 99% of the time who i see is waiting to goto the psych hold. so its interesting to see that reflected in the statistics.
Well it's side effects. So a lot of people don't know this but a lot of prescription drugs only ever ran trials on white men. As you probably know. Men are typically physically larger than women and have a different muscle to fat ratio.
So it's actually more common for women to have side effects from a lot of these drugs because the dosage is not adjusted for women.
Also. Toxic masculinity. Men are told not to complain about things like this. Even though they should. Men have a shorter life span and visit doctors less, coincidence?
wondering why that would be a primarily "female reason" for admission, then - wouldn't drugs that impact breathing or muscles be administered or accessible to men as well?
Someone else suggested date rape drugs, that seems like a possibility - but is it typical for date rape drugged victims to end up in the hospital such that "agents acting on muscles and breathing" becomes the reason for admission? Just doesn't make sense, tbh
Well it's probably side effects from prescription drugs. So a lot of people don't know this but a lot of prescription drugs only ever ran trials on white men. As you probably know. Men are typically physically larger than women and have a different muscle to fat ratio.
So it's actually more common for women to have side effects from a lot of these drugs because the dosage is not adjusted for women.
Also. Toxic masculinity. Men are told not to complain about things like this. Even though they should. Men have a shorter life span and visit doctors less, coincidence?
Someone above explained it better, but women are more likely to have unwanted and even dangerous side effects from medications because most meds were only ever properly tested on white men.
Because guys are too fucking dumb to go to the hospital for something like not being able to breathe. I'm sure the statistic couldn't breathe, tried to walk it off, regained consciousness the next morning in a ditch next to road, just went home, is probably just as full of guys as the other statistic was full of girls.
Ok, so what I am hearing is that I can significantly reduce the risk of motorcycle injuries by not being a man? Like how far do I need to go here, because if its just dressing in drag, it may be just the supporting data I will need to convince my wife to let me have a motorcycle "just one more time"
The thing with lawnmowers is most commonly it's either they reached in to clear a blockage or it's a ride on lawnmower that rolled. Seriously rolling a lawnmower is super deasly (same goes for ATVs)
It's a bit surprising to me that mowing the lawn is a male thing, my assumption is that it would be stereotyped to women because it is a maintenance task and for some reason women are stereotyped as the ones doing those.
P.S. "stereotype" seems like the wrong word here but can't think of anything better
The old hand powered needed a lot of force, so maybe that's why it mas "a man thing" in peoples minds. I have absolutely no idea if that is still the case today.
What you actually need is a privacy respecting open source browser, the clear recent history button, and also, if your router is untrusted, DNS over HTTPS.
Or maybe they’re just safer when they ride. “Cyclist, object collision” sounds like it’s basically always the cyclist’s fault given the other available categories, like someone riding too fast and hitting a stationary object.
There's twice as many non-collision accidents as all the collision categories combined. People just wiping out, which definitely sounds like too fast for the turn, showboating, etc. Not that women can't do all that - it just feels like much more stereotypically male behavior.
I'd be super curious to see how much of that is food delivery bikers. In my city, they are everywhere but I'm not dude I've ever seen a woman doing it. But in terms of reckless cycling, those delivery folks are way over represented (which makes sense, their income depends on speed.)
People don't cycle that much overall, due to perception and poor infrastructure, but yeah it's also skewed by gender. My impression is that the public perception of poor safety is something that most people are exposed to, but weighs more heavily on women.
It was right up his alley. Was trying to open the package and couldn't figure out how to get it apart. Decided I needed to level up to the BFK (big fucking knife). The packaging (and the knife) won that battle, but I eventually won the war when I realized the packaging was threaded on my return from the ER. Could have just twisted it. Derp
It's not about it being confusing, everything is only displayed to at most one decimal place. If the number is 99.95 or higher it is 100 at that precision.
It's using "gender" as people used to 10+ years ago, as a synonym for "sex." They never got the memo. (1) It's clearly labeled male and female, which aren't genders, (2) there's only two categories instead of dozens as there would be for gender
On the one hand, all the pregnancy-related items are of course very important -- but they're not particularly illuminating on a list like this. If there was a "Testicular Torsion" item marked as 100% male, that wouldn't really tell me much here either.
That does appear to be the case. Almost all of the pregnancy visits aren't done in hospital. They are clinic visits and clinical post hospital appointments. And almost all of the male admissions are trauma admissions through the ER.
And to be honest, men do have a higher rate of trauma admissions than women. While women are a bit more often admitted for medical issues. But, often have medical issues they also see a doctor for.
I disagree. It does show the contrast of what most women deal with when compared directly to the male category. And while pregnancy is specific to female (at birth), it is culturally significant because it is so prevalent.
Yes of course, that's why I said it was important. But this table is about gender disparities in specific reasons for admittance. If the ratio can't possibly be anything but 100%, what does that tell me about anything other than the self-evidently obvious?
You might as well tell me water is wet or the sky blue. Very true and both those facts are important, but neither is exactly new or surprising information.
I suppose it tells you that there is no male equivalent. I do think it’s interesting that there are so many fewer types of admission skewed toward women that fit the criteria of being skewed by 80% or more, especially when you consider the prominence of pregnancy related types.
I do also think it would be more interesting to see something like the top 15 admission types for men and top 15 for women without the 80% threshold requirement to get a wider spread of women-skewed admissions.
I guess it depends on what the chart is made to convey
The chart does include total admissions for each. Category, so you can compare the numbers across categories, I guess.
It doesn't compare directly to the male category because there is no male category listed.
Quite a bit of interesting information on display to be sure, but with 20% of the chart displaying information that excludes one of the two things being compared, it's not a good representation of what the title suggests.
On a chart showing male female disparity for types of cancer, ovarian and testicular would be just as irrelevant as the bottom fifth of this admissions chart.
I am a bit confused. Do you mean they purposely grouped stuff to make it seem like a bigger issue than the cancers you mention?
In that last sentence of my comment, I was referring to a hypothetical cancer chart, as a comparison to the chart of this post and the inherent uselessness of including information that cannot be experienced by everyone.
Yeah this is a super pointless list because it's obvious they cherry picked data points to make the graph look dramatic.
Uh oh
Yes, yes. Entirely legitimate issues about gender identity aside, I think we all know my point here is strictly about biology.
This is why I hate this whole issue. For decades we use male and man and female and woman interchangeably. But now theres all sorts of people just waiting to pounce with "Well, actually....". And then, if you do say male, its fine. But if you say female, you get "Oh, look. Another incel saying female!!".
Seems like its not about communicating effectively, and more about just shitting all over things people say for worthless internet points. We all know what you meant. And it was a good point. But here we are, side stepping into this mess instead of staying focused on your point. Its all just so silly.
lol I have you tagged as “gets it” and you keep living up to that.
... there is a difference between man and male?
I mean, I know the difference between sex and gender in the English language but didn't know this also relates to male and man (if this is what it is about as the downvotes suggest)
God forbid someone who doesn't natively speak English doesn't know the nuance between these words that are often not used "properly"
A lot of folk are going to start going on about how one refers to sexual phenotype and one is about social gender but that isn't coming from the trans camp. I will help simplify it from a trans lens.
Male and Man are basically interchangeable from a trans perspective because people use them basically the same way - as a social Category. Calling a trans woman "male" is doing the exact same job as calling her a "man". These are not strictly scientific terms.
Male and Female are what are on legal documentation like licences or medical documents and you can get those changed and it's important to have that flexibility because a trans man rocking a full beard and having an F sex marker on his passport can get him routinely flagged by police or security with the concern his documentation is fake or erroneous and potentially cause him to be treated like a criminal and his documents tested because he doesn't look female.
Where the difference culturally matters is people sometimes do not like male or female in usage because it sounds depersonalizing. Like you are putting out an All Points Bulletin or talking about a prisoner or animal population or using medical sounding language to refer to them.
Horse girls gettin' called out.
As a cyclist I both love and hate how many separate ones there are
Part of my job is fitting people with custom bracing in the trauma ward. I realized this wasn't the US because there were so many cyclists, and it was lacking an atv category.
In my state the trauma ward has an ATV season. Also, I'm surprised there wasn't a subcategory for pool injuries, or at least a category for slip and falls. Are swimming pools not very popular in the UK?
General slip-and-fall doesn't seem like it would be highly gendered. Do you find pool injuries are overwhelmingly one sex?
The amount of falls I'm guessing is fairly similar, but older women are a lot more likely to end up in the trauma ward from it. For one there are just more old women than old men in my area and they are far more likely to have osteoporosis.
I generally see a lot more young men and boys from injuries from the pool. More rough housing, diving, and running around on wet concrete.
My assumption would be that males would tend more towards risky behavior around a pool.
Very few people have swimming pools at home, if that's what you mean.
We just go to the local puddle during the rainy season, typically between January and December.
to slip and fall?
And at the opposite end of the spectrum, how many elements for pregnancy there are as well! (And no specific Delivery, but Outcome of Delivery. Do people in US not usually give birth in a hospital?)
Edit: Not US but England
In the US the hospital is most common but there is a growing movement for alternative birth methods, birthing centers, at home births, being strapped to a wall and having crystals shot at you until your baby just sort of materializes, etc
While there are fringe anti-science people pushing for home births, the main cause is lack of health insurance/fear of unexpected bills.
I know a number of home-birthed people, including myself, and I could not describe a single parent of theirs as being anti-science. Also this graph is from English hospital admissions so cost/bills would never ever enter the equation.
That's creative. I'd love being bombarded with raw amethysts while I'm breaking waters
Amethysts and essential oils. Men know there is only one essential oil.... WD40.
This chart is for people in England.
Explains the lack of gunshots compared to stabbings.
Thanks for pointing it out! Lemmy is so US centered I didn’t notice
lol, someone downvoted your candid opinion.
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this chart is for anyone interested in charts, don't gatekeep charts!
This is NHS England data, so not likely to be affected by whether people in the US usually give birth in a hospital.
Dunno about people in the US, but this chat says the information is from England. I'm guessing delivery is included in one of the other categories (probably outcome of delivery).
Birth centers are incredibly common now. And home births are preferred among certain people, like anti-vaxers and sovereign citizens
It’s mostly people with inadequate medical coverage who can’t afford insane surprise bills.
Seriously. As a downhill biker I count at least 5 lines for me:
Cyclist, Object Collision Cyclist, Other Cyclist, Non Collision Accident Assault, Sharp object (my shins and calves are constantly being torn up by my fucking pedals. fuck those grip screws) Struck by sports equipment
Clipless will save your shins :)
And how many admissions compared to motorcycles there are.
Looks like women are too busy with all that sex stuff to get out on their motorbikes.
At least the horsegirl population vastly outnumbers the horseboys...
What is a hog but a horse with more horsepower?
The men who aren't getting involved in motorcycle accidents are getting them pregnant. It's just natural selection.
Object stuck in arse is the classic, if the anecdotes of my medical professional friends are anything to go by. Although maybe that’s already covered by “Assault, blunt object”
Females have arses too…
I'd be zero percent surprised to learn that men get stuff stuck up their arse more than women.
I live in a town which has a hospital that supports a large geographical area and as such is a major employer in the town. Many of my friends work there.
It’s always men.
You know, a lot of women online complain about the idea that men are more horny than women, but I'd say they need to get their lost object in anal cavity requiring surgical removal numbers up if they'd like to differ.
hi, husband here
i am the arse
Fake news.
I’m not sure that’s in dispute?
They don't poop, why would they have one?
That's right. Nature don'ts make stuffs for no reason'. That's the beauty of it
If girls had buttholes they'd also fart so definitely fake news!
You’re saying that it’s apparently a male only issue if you think it should be on the men’s side.
Would it be surprising, no, but it’s probably gonna be a pretty even split.
I would put a lot of money on it not being an even split. The stories I’ve heard from hospital colleagues always involve men, to the point where one nurse I know wanted to add a plea in a local Facebook group to ask men to stop shoving household objects up their arse.
I think women have the wherewithal to use, or have easier access to, proper tapered toys. Men see a tube shaped object and go “yep, that’ll do”.
The hospital admissions are for removal of stuck foreign objects, not which gender likes bum fun the most.
Some of this definitely comes from stigma, it's relatively normal for women to have sex toys, regardless of relationship status, but it's seen as sad and loser/gooner behavior if a man has sex toys. Add in inconvenience of penetrative sex toys really only being effective for prostate play for men (whereas women can use penetrative sex toys both to simulate vanilla PIV sex and for any amount of increasingly kinky fantasies) and you have the perfect recipe for horny men curious about ringing that male G-spot using whatever seems relatively safe and appropriately sized
37 times more men than women 😂
Cool. Doesn’t mean you need to be a dick about it.
You’re also an ass for trying to funnel it under “assault”, not funny. Just ignorant while trying to make a joke at men.
Love that the name-calling starts once I've provided evidence to back up my claim. This is called an ad hominem attack, or narcissistic rage, in case you ever want to bring it up with your therapist. I don't know how old you are, but it's common in children, where they're not emotionally equipped to manage the frustration of being proved wrong.
May the internet never change.
My guess is it just doesn't usually get you admitted to the hospital. They can usually help you out in the ER and send you on your way.
It’s probably also “foreign object in body” and covers all holes, so the females are “watered” down maybe? More options, less results in each, common data issue.
We've got to improve those male pregnancy exam numbers, women are winning!
the gays are trying their hardest and will keep trying to impregnate their partners but the government keeps tying to stop them for some reason.
Because pregnant men would be pretty OP.
Brand new sentence.
Huh.
Horse girls are a bigger part of the horse riding population than I thought
My girlfriend's sister has a horse and I refuse to go near it. It's a two ton object being operated by a pea of a brain, he once got into a panic because his friend was behind him and he couldn't see him, so he ran around the field madly until he collided with a stationary tree. Oh and he's scared of blue wheelbarrows, just blue ones, wheelbarrows of any other colour or apparently acceptable.
He has already stood on her foot once.
Horses are fucking creepy.
Right? They walk around on single fingers and are born with weird tentacles over their hooves
If you try to draw a horse based only on its skeleton you would come up with some cthulhu monster.
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Sorry, that was an arrogant way of phrasing it.
What the hell kind of breed is two tons? The heaviest ones I know get up to about one ton, but those are big, heavy working horses, not the average riding horse.Most horses won't be even a single ton. There are a few breeds of working horses that do get up to a ton, but most regular riding horses are a half ton, on average.
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Our icelandic horse has also stood on my foot once, but she's only about 300kg (600lbs) and didn't put much of it on that foot before I shooed her off.
Also, she's super calm about damn near everything.
First encounter with a motorised shear? Eyes wide open for a few seconds, then she's already out of fucks to give.
Shenanigans trying to craft a costume for her result in a piece of cloth suddenly covering her eyes? Eh, my humans will know what they're doing. Actually, can I eat that? Nope, apparently not. Lame.
The worst she'll do when something actually does scare her is stand up straight, refuse to move closer and rarely attempt to put a little more distance. She might unexpectedly sidestep a weird object on the roadside, but not so rapidly as to dismount my wife, and she's never run away in a panic that I know of.
And if you scratch her right, she basically melts. Scratch her ears, she'll relax her lower lip like she's losing control of her face muscles. Scratch her butt, she'll lean into it. Back away, she'll follow. It's the only case I've ever seen of a horse happily walking backwards.
Just by asking what breed such a horse could possibly be, you've exemplified more horse related knowledge than most people possess. Two tons is pretty obviously a guess by someone that doesn't know a lot about horses or other animals of similar size.
Not much different to how most people would be wrong when estimating the weight of a building, the volume of the ocean, or the quantity of trees on the planet. If it's something unfamiliar to you, you can't be expected to be accurate.
You know what, you're right. I didn't consider the perspective of people less familiar with the topic. I don't consider myself particularly knowledgeable, but that doesn't mean my knowledge is fundamental or ubiquitous.
Kudos to you. Too few are capable of this type of reflection.
When you know a bit about something, it's always an easy thing to mistakenly presume others to know what seems like the most baseline of information about the subject matter.
As it is for horses, only three breeds came to my mind. Clydesdale, carousel, and of course this genuine two ton beauty.
It's a common human blind spot. I see no reason to get defensive about it. Better to admit it and improve than double down on a pointless battle with nothing to win.
I know of a lot of things that I don't know a lot about, which makes what knowledge I do have seem paltry by comparison. Exchanges like this are a handy reality check. Ideally, we can all walk away smarter for it.
Shire Horses, Brabanter (a Belgian breed, but I don't know the English name) are the ones that I can think of, but I know there's also some French breed up there. Don't think any of them can hide a crew of crafty Greeks in their belly though. "Why is this taxidermied horse's belly still moving?"
Maybe they include elephants in the "horse" category?
Consider yourself lucky. We were digging the ground with shovels near a horse park where they had a competition. A river separates the two areas.
They asked us to stop because the horses were freaking out.
In the lord of the rings a lot of the extras on horses are women with fake beards because of this
Maybe they are just a lot worse at it.
This is embarrassing to men. You're suppose to walk off those sorts of injuries.
And try harder to get pregnant!
Indeed, I walked off my incidental pregnancy.
Men don't do well on two wheels.
They do as good as women on 4 legs it seems….
Or women don't duck with two wheels
Considering how overwhelmingly male every biker group I've seen is I'd say it's more that
Wow, motorcycles are dangerous, damn.
Yeah. That and pregnancy. Don't even get me started on riding a motorcycle while pregnant. Might as well just ride that bike down to the morgue.
Okay but what if I turned a coffin into a motorcycle? Does the bad luck even out or am I just taunting Death?
I don't know, but it would look pretty badass
You can also let it automatically latch shut and call a delivery service to a pre-dug-out hole, on detecting a crash.
less the bicycles, unless I read the numbers incorrectly because I couldn't be bothered to spend longer
Most fun things are.
Or men riding motorcycles are really reckless, no way to conclude here
What on earth are these "Agents acting on muscles or breathing" that women seem to be much more prone to?
I assumed that meant “overdose” which is easier to do the less you weigh.
People taking too much muscle relaxants.
Lmao, shout out to all my girlies getting hospitalised after huffing too many poppers
My guess was date rape drugs
Maybe Botox?
Huffing paint?
This information will surely only be used to inform rational and socially progressive ideas about gender
Meh the data is presented in a not only useless but misleading way.
Shoot from the hip with no explanation....
Not seeing anything inherently wrong with the data viz (obviously not talking about the veracity of the data itself or its geographic/linguistic scope as that's another matter).
Would you elaborate what you mean?
if you are going to bring up comparisons based on sex, you pollute the data including things that ONLY can possibly effect one sex. what good is it to compare how much post pregnancy care effects women vs men? or to have half the comparisons divvy all the different ways you can classify a motor cycle accident, where there is the same outcome for all of them.
I assume it is based on data of people being admitted to hospitals, as titled. So my guess is this is more about how the medical system breaks the data down, and they selected for the highest disparities of reported sex.
seems to point to men getting hurt based on high risk behavior or professional expectation. but women seem to be arriving for biological functions.
though honestly if you consider child birth both a high risk behavior and and societal expectation then the comparison is valid, but more clarity on the why it’s like this would help.
The line item for obstetric and gynecological devices is interesting.
My interpretation was drugs which are CNS depressants or paralytics. A benzo overdose presumably falls into this category, maybe also opioids. It can't include alcohol though, because people drinking until paralytic is not an overwhelmingly female phenomenon (I believe it is currently pretty even)
I feel like what's missing is the magnitude of each of these versus the others
This is a goofy graph. We have all these admissions of 100% female due to being female. Where's the "had penis caught in chinese finger puzzle" admissions?
Probably less than 1000 cases
For now. I'll see if I can fix that this weekend. Do you think multiple visits by the same person for the same issue count as one or multiple?
I don't know how their dataset is filtered, but I suspect it should count as multiple.
If they rerun the analysis next year and I see the figure pop up, I'll know whose sacrifice to honour.
I think they should be separate. Like if a woman gives birth twice in one year (ow) that would be two visits.
Can width of bars be changed based on number of visits? The pregnancy related ones probably skew the data. I know pie charts are terrible but could they be useful in this case?
Those are rookie numbers. Let's get to work, boys!
That's solved by the medics on scene. You'd be surprised at just how effective my medical shears are and what they can cut...
Yes. It's shown on the right, and ought to have bee sorted by that.
Also, notice the bottom text, that it excludes all cases where neither gender is more than 80%, so only extreme differences are shown.
It's carefully chosen to show some point, which might be interesting in some context, but not really interesting by itself without context.
Who are the 1.7% of males needing OB/GYN?
Trans men? But there aren't that many I think.
Since the pregnancy is at 100%, I believe it's afab vs amab
Maybe a trans woman who was AMAB but had bottom surgery?
Wouldn’t be capable of pregnancy but might need a gynecologist?
This is all my guess - I don’t know much about these topics.
you usually see a gynecologist for pap smears once a year, but there might be one willing to do prostate exams for post-op trans women ... usually trans affirming gynecologists are for pro-op trans men
maybe post-op trans women would see a gynecologist, just not sure what for
edit: looking it up, a gynecologist is recommended for post-op trans women, looks like a gynecologist can even function as a primary care doctor!
Common reasons to go include treating granulation, checking for yeast infections and STIs, and performing pelvic exams which might catch potential cancers.
The full title of that entry is actually "Obstetric and gynaecological devices associated with adverse incidents", so maybe some of the men are actually the OB/GYN themselves that are getting injured in the course of their work? The raw number is only 19 cases, so I could see that being plausible
Alternatively, with so few cases, could it be intersex people who are still categorised as male under whatever criteria this is using? 1.7% seems a touch high for that, but maybe things go wrong more often for said intersex people
Edit: wait, 90 of the cases are 0-year-olds. I'm definitely going with injuries to babies during difficult births / C-sections / similar
Fellas! Stay off the bicycles and motorcycles!
No. May my organs be of good use to someone more intelligent and useful.
Put me right on the very bottom of that recipient list then
Don't forget the lawn mowers!
Because men cannot give birth, they engage in other types of high-risk activities, such as riding a motorcycle.
Seriously though, what's a procreative management?
IUD's
Don't mix those up with IED's. Believe me.
Probably hurts about the same.
...until the 'E' gets activated.
Just dont drive drunk...
Did you actually mix up contracteptives and driving undert the influence?
I would never!
I thought it would have been funnier if you had, but whatever.
Vasectomy I guess for guys, having your tubes tied for women.
some can :3
I thought there’d be more “remove foreign object from up bum”.
That might be unisex.
The full data set (easily found on leobenedictus.substack.com) includes "Foreign body entering into or through eye or natural orifice". It's pretty evenly split, only leaning towards men by a few percentage points
Are those "prophylactic surgery"?
I suspect all baseball and tennis players ended up in the "struck by sports equipment"
I wonder if porn models that get stuff stuck fall into the "work-risk factors"
Mental note: stop brandishing scimitar while motorcycling.
The women have an unfair advantage. They get classes on the subject.
Doctors concluded this leads to hysteria
Only the ones who knew how to duck.
well there used to be a "treatment" for hysteria that's very close to ducking
Look sometimes you've got to take some risks to follow the lead of Jaghatai Khan
Why ride in a tank and fight at a distance if you could wear a tank and ride a motorbike at breakneck speed to close into melee range? For the Khan and the Emperor!
My refusal to step onto scaffolding has been affirmed by this data.
the psychiatric one is interesting.
It's a bit more taboo for men to seek that care, for one.
This is for being admitted to the hospital though, not counselling. Inpatient psychiatric care is pretty serious stuff.
i seeked out care because i knew what was going on with me was not normal. when i was there, i saw one women in the holding area, and one man having a break with secuirty around him. when i was admitted to the psych ward on the floor without maximum security, id say that biologically born males out numbered biologically born females
Howevever, i have been the hospital for other things, and everytime i have gone to the ER, it's been someone who identifies as a female 99% of the time who i see is waiting to goto the psych hold. so its interesting to see that reflected in the statistics.
and those psychological crises in men might be logged differently, as suicides, homicides, or assaults for example
agents acting on muscles and breathing? 🤔
Drug effects. Prescription or recreational
So more men do drugs but women OD way more?
Well it's side effects. So a lot of people don't know this but a lot of prescription drugs only ever ran trials on white men. As you probably know. Men are typically physically larger than women and have a different muscle to fat ratio.
So it's actually more common for women to have side effects from a lot of these drugs because the dosage is not adjusted for women.
Also. Toxic masculinity. Men are told not to complain about things like this. Even though they should. Men have a shorter life span and visit doctors less, coincidence?
wondering why that would be a primarily "female reason" for admission, then - wouldn't drugs that impact breathing or muscles be administered or accessible to men as well?
Someone else suggested date rape drugs, that seems like a possibility - but is it typical for date rape drugged victims to end up in the hospital such that "agents acting on muscles and breathing" becomes the reason for admission? Just doesn't make sense, tbh
Well it's probably side effects from prescription drugs. So a lot of people don't know this but a lot of prescription drugs only ever ran trials on white men. As you probably know. Men are typically physically larger than women and have a different muscle to fat ratio.
So it's actually more common for women to have side effects from a lot of these drugs because the dosage is not adjusted for women.
Also. Toxic masculinity. Men are told not to complain about things like this. Even though they should. Men have a shorter life span and visit doctors less, coincidence?
To be fair, white males are the default of humanity...
/s (damn humanity and their conceited blindspots!!)
Even drugs for kids have mostly just been tested on adult white men.
They say it's unethical to do drug testing on kids. So instead we just give millions of kids drugs that were never tested on them.
Geez, it's madness isn't it?
I'm pretty sure it's to keep from getting sued.
It's an unethical loop hole to keep kids from growing up and suing them
Allergic reaction to substances (agents) causing paralysis, asphyxiation, shock, etc
why would this be a "female" reason to be admitted to the hospital?
Someone above explained it better, but women are more likely to have unwanted and even dangerous side effects from medications because most meds were only ever properly tested on white men.
The men just rub a little dirt in their lungs
Because guys are too fucking dumb to go to the hospital for something like not being able to breathe. I'm sure the statistic couldn't breathe, tried to walk it off, regained consciousness the next morning in a ditch next to road, just went home, is probably just as full of guys as the other statistic was full of girls.
It was just a massage I didn't mean to hurt them!
I think this is the source, also better image quality (in Boost at least it looks super compressed).
There's a little HD button in the top right on Boost that I'm guessing shows the original image.
Ok, so what I am hearing is that I can significantly reduce the risk of motorcycle injuries by not being a man? Like how far do I need to go here, because if its just dressing in drag, it may be just the supporting data I will need to convince my wife to let me have a motorcycle "just one more time"
From this data, it would seem that being not a man increases the likelihood of horse accidents though.
Ok ok, so I lose 1 horse power in favour of some ending in RR... Deal!
Imagine if pregnancy stuff had 1% blue.
Okay so no two wheelers, not assaulting anyone and fuck the lawnmower I'm gonna hit 100 years!
Do not fuck the lawnmower
While it's running.
dont tell me who to love, dad!
unlike you, the lawnmover loves me to bits!
The thing with lawnmowers is most commonly it's either they reached in to clear a blockage or it's a ride on lawnmower that rolled. Seriously rolling a lawnmower is super deasly (same goes for ATVs)
It's a bit surprising to me that mowing the lawn is a male thing, my assumption is that it would be stereotyped to women because it is a maintenance task and for some reason women are stereotyped as the ones doing those.
P.S. "stereotype" seems like the wrong word here but can't think of anything better
The old hand powered needed a lot of force, so maybe that's why it mas "a man thing" in peoples minds. I have absolutely no idea if that is still the case today.
So… gynecological devices has some amount of males?
Men are dumb and put things in wrong places.
I blame the lack of sexual education in schools, if it was better then more men would understand the importance of a flared base
Maybe males being treated for post partum depression under obstetrics? Otherwise idk
Warning: use an incognito/privacy mode browser before googling ANY of the following.
Medical fetishists are a thing. I think it's due to kink play with speculums, sounding tools, catheters, and other (gendered) medical instruments.
What you actually need is a privacy respecting open source browser, the clear recent history button, and also, if your router is untrusted, DNS over HTTPS.
For men those things would land in a urology/andrology/proctology category.
Yeah, trans men.
can you repost this as a bingo card? i might win
Anyone notice many, if not most, of male injuries are preventable?
They're expendable for the glory of our car-centric society
Where are the objects in rectum numbers?
I guess it is not as biased as you assume
Sad to see that women seem to not cycle very much in England...
Or maybe they’re just safer when they ride. “Cyclist, object collision” sounds like it’s basically always the cyclist’s fault given the other available categories, like someone riding too fast and hitting a stationary object.
There's twice as many non-collision accidents as all the collision categories combined. People just wiping out, which definitely sounds like too fast for the turn, showboating, etc. Not that women can't do all that - it just feels like much more stereotypically male behavior.
Or to put it in the nicer way: BMX and mountainbiking, as well as children learning to ride
Perhaps they do but in a more sensible manner.
I'd be super curious to see how much of that is food delivery bikers. In my city, they are everywhere but I'm not dude I've ever seen a woman doing it. But in terms of reckless cycling, those delivery folks are way over represented (which makes sense, their income depends on speed.)
People don't cycle that much overall, due to perception and poor infrastructure, but yeah it's also skewed by gender. My impression is that the public perception of poor safety is something that most people are exposed to, but weighs more heavily on women.
Im actually afraid to ask what prophylactic surgery is, and why its so common for both sexes
Looks like it's cancer prevention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophylactic_surgery
tube tying?
meanwhile vasectomy is an outpatient procedure so not as many hospital visits?
Repairing butthole after rough anal?
Interesting, especially with the numbers on the right. Good chart.
What is a non-treatment procedure?
I would assume preventive medicine and the like.
Edit: Just checked, it also includes any kind of tests.
Hey, I'm on there! Shout-out to my fellow people injured by power tools and household machinery.
This you?
It was right up his alley. Was trying to open the package and couldn't figure out how to get it apart. Decided I needed to level up to the BFK (big fucking knife). The packaging (and the knife) won that battle, but I eventually won the war when I realized the packaging was threaded on my return from the ER. Could have just twisted it. Derp
Unexpected Home Improvement reference
I expected more foreign object in rectum
The amount of lawnmower injuries...
It reminded me of 1000 Ways To Die
I wonder why obstetrical and gynecologic devices 98.3% female and not 100%... I assume it must be biological gender since it's NHS data.
Possibly for breast cancer? Men can get breast cancer, it's just not as common
Maybe vasectomy clips count?
I have a hard time believing that not a single trans man has been to the hospital for a pregnancy.
I have an easy time believing that it rounds to 100.0 at
3 sig figs1dp thoughWould 99.9% really have been that confusing?
It's not about it being confusing, everything is only displayed to at most one decimal place. If the number is 99.95 or higher it is 100 at that precision.
It's using "gender" as people used to 10+ years ago, as a synonym for "sex." They never got the memo. (1) It's clearly labeled male and female, which aren't genders, (2) there's only two categories instead of dozens as there would be for gender
Assault and two wheels. Things dudes should strive to avoid.
As soon as I saw cyclist I knew this was the UK.
I hope they're using a lot of scaffoldings during the Epstein Ballroom construction