Thing is, those are guardsmen. Probaly are called up and pulled from their families to end up in Chicago.. All for the benefit of a deflecting old fuck that doesn't want us to remember that he's likely on the Epstein list for doing the dirty to underage girls.
This is the EXACT thing we're supposed to forget. Epstein.
It's not that they know. It's that we won't allow the subject to be changed anymore. We're bullying back.
If you're tired, consider taking a break in general, bc this is the only thing I've seen working, and it gets to places violence doesn't reach.
Also, your criticism is helpful and I am NOT arguing against any of your salient points.
Some boomer tried to shame me for using public transit, which employed him. Shut up when I pointed out I'd never been paid a living wage my entire life, which made maintaining a car hard whether you knew how to change the oil or not.
Had a nice conversation about local geology after that. Fancy that.
Learning more and more that maga folks expect to be cuffed once to know respect, and twice for love, then once a year after that for measure.
Something about sense of consequence. But also I'm recomending mace+ to all minorities(more backlash from some some biggotkuks.).
Anyway, again, basic bullyback, right? Learning late. Might pick up artofwar for seasoning.
(sabo manual is already on the rounds, right?)
Art of war is incredibly basic, things like 'try to outnumber the enemy!' 'Don't telegraph everything!' 'Circumstances can be advantageous or disadvantageous; pick the first one when you can!'. Read Clausewitz, either Mao or Lawrence, and something modern; I like Boyd but I'm a systems pervert.
Been a long-ass time since i touched any of this, and it all kinds bleeds together, but from very rough blurry memory:
Clausewitz is... Okay so I found him incredibly hard to read because i kept wishing I had a chance to go back in time and kick him in the dick, maybe when he was too old to chase me very far after, but basically about how conflict is about more than just killing dudes, and killing dudes is a means rather than an end.
Mao talks about fighting bigger foes and some on the role of the (non-fighting) people in war. How a force sustains itself in nontraditional circumstances.
Boyd is late 20th century american imperial air force; an information/attention guy. The OODA loop guy. Relevant in modern deeply bullshit war. There are other options, but like i said: I'm a systems pervert.
Lawrence covers some (but not all) of the ground of the last two from a more romantic and heroic (and older! He fought in world war 1! Boyd was a ds1 guy and Mao was Mao) perspective. And also is a better writer than Mao or whoever put together Boyd's stuff.
People have been saying "It's all a distraction!" in response to every single thing Trump has done for the past decade. They just can't accept that Trump and his supporters are just awful people who consistently do awful things. Gotta be some Grand Design.
This isn't an educated guess. We know he's in there. The exact details of his involvement are needed to prosecute, but we for sure without a doubt know. We may not know it directly from this case, but the sum of all of the evil shit he's been a part of will easily lead you there, just not enough to prosecute this exact instance unfortunately.
On the one hand, I feel bad for them. They signed up because it put a little extra food on their family's plates, and they felt like they'd be helping out in case of a hurricane, tornado, earthquake, flood, or similar. They likely don't desire to enforce the anti-constitutional rulings of a degenerate. They'll be fired at best for refusing, jailed or made an example of at worst.
But... they are still the hands carrying out the tasks. Fuck them. We live in a society where information is milliseconds away, and being ill-informed on a topic is only due to laziness. There are fucking cartoons that will explain constitutional law if you can't read a text based article for long enough to grasp the topic, for fuck's sake.
I try hard not to make fun of people’s appearances. It’s not fair to mock them for their weight or their little mustaches or their ill-fitting camo gear.
But….
These are evil people arriving to do evil things. Sometimes ridicule is the only weapon we can use against them, since violence would only bring more of the same.
So I guess it’s fair to say that these fearsome warriors, hot off their recent and decisively clear victory over anorexia, will pour into Chicago, like beef gravy over pizza, and devour their chosen enemy, no matter how much sweat, panting, and snacks it takes...
Unless their enemy is at the top of more than 2 flights of stairs, of course.
I wouldn't say the NG members are evil people doing evil things. They don't exactly get a choice in the matter about where they're deployed, and I haven't seen any reports of NG members doing anything nefarious.
Exactly. Most people who sign up for that are actually pretty cool people. Their nobility is being taken advantage of. Now, one could argue that the "I'm just following orders" excuse is no good. On the other hand. I bet a lot of them are going to be doing some malicious compliance, effectively pretending to follow orders by showing up, but just doing nothing the whole time.
No, they aren't. Many of these people are just people don't want to play soldier on the weekends and collect extra money. A lot of them are starting to become the national right-wing bullshit idiots joining because it's easier to join the national guard than it is to join up in the army.
🤷♂️ The two national guard members I know are left-leaning and liked the idea of helping people, of course yes for money, but understandably so. But yeah, I guess I can't say "most". I do think that most of the jerks are still more drawn to the actual army though, and that does definitely help the jerk ratio of the national guard.
Technically for defense from invasion, traditionally used for relief like what you described, but Bush II set a precedent by deploying a lot of guardsmen and reservists to Iraq.
Same. I used to be overweight (though not as much as they are), and even though I’m fit now, I would never make fun of a random person’s weight - you never know what illness or psych problem they are dealing with.
But in this case I think it’s fair, as 1) soldiers should be fit, and 2) they are here to hurt (or at least intimidate) you, so no reason to be nice to them
Their body weight and physical build is very, very relevant. Someone physically unfit for the situation will resort to use of deadly force immediately. So bash away.
Also there are four of them in close proximity which is fucking hilarious following shortly after the drunkass Pete Hegswhatever was just lecturing the military commanders about how he was going to get rid of anyone who didn't meet his physical standards.
Yall would do best to quit the handwringing about when and how body shaming is okay. Body shaming is never okay, period. This is not leftism. This is liberalism. Leftists dont do this. And to what end? Performative schoolyard insults aren't going to stop the descent into fascism. All it does is show you aren't understanding what causes fascism and how it's mitigated. Does the existence of black Nazis give you the right to start dropping N bombs?
"Violence doesn't work against Nazis"
What??? What was WWII about then??
You have two methods to stop fascism: meet people's basic needs, or squash it with guns and bullets. No amount of cutting late night monologues, or epic slams, or incisive think pieces will quell fascism. I'll leave you a quote from Hitler.
And so, I established in 1919 a programme and tendency that was a conscious slap in the face of the democratic-pacifist world. [We knew] it might take five or ten or twenty years, yet gradually an authoritarian state arose within the democratic state, and a nucleus of fanatical devotion and ruthless determination formed in a wretched world that lacked basic convictions.
Only one danger could have jeopardised this development — if our adversaries had understood its principle, established a clear understanding of our ideas, and not offered any resistance. Or, alternatively, if they had from the first day annihilated with the utmost brutality the nucleus of our new movement.
Neither was done. The times were such that our adversaries were no longer capable of accomplishing our annihilation, nor did they have the nerve. Arguably, they furthermore lacked the understanding to assume a wholly appropriate attitude. Instead, they began to tyrannise our young movement by bourgeois means, and, by doing so, they assisted the process of natural selection in a very fortunate manner. From there on, it was only a question of time until the leadership of the nation would fall to our hardened human material.
Given the usual missions I've seen the National Guard deployed for, I would actually give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are actually good willed people. Which makes the whole situation all the more deplorable and Trump all the more of an evil cunt. Hopefully he gets hoisted by his own petard.
They're members of the national guard. The typical enlistment period for the National Guard is 8 years. Many would have joined under Biden, and are probably still required to serve out a number of years. If they don't, then they might have to suddenly pay back the tuition benefits or something. The military, Guard included, isn't normally something you can just quit if you don't like how things are going.
ICE employees? That's another matter. You had to voluntarily join ICE, and many of them have joined in just the last few months. They knew what they were getting into. They're wearing masks to hide their identities, and all the bad incidents I've heard of (people being shot by rubber bullets, being thrown down and injured, etc.) have been ICE not Guard.
They have no choice about their lawful orders. These guardsmen were ordered to deploy against America and didn't refuse. Maybe evil is a strong term but it sure sounds like Treason to me.
These guardsmen were ordered to deploy against America
No, they were ordered to deploy in America, and ordered to protect federal buildings and "maintain order". There's nothing illegal about that order, or treasonous about following it. They've been used that way plenty of times before. Generally when they're deployed following a natural disaster, one of the things they're there fore is to deter looting. The whole "natural disaster" bit seems the main thing that the National Guard does these days. Then there are other times where they're deployed to maintain law and order: the 1992 LA riots, the 1968 riots after the assassination of MLK, etc.
There's nothing treasonous about that. And the orders authorizing those deployments aren't illegal orders. If you were one of the racists who wanted to attack MLK's march from Selma to Montgomery, you might have felt that the national guard preventing you from attacking the marchers were "race traitors" or evil, but history would have shown you were wrong.
In this case, history will probably show that the guard stood around looking tough, maybe made a few arrests. Some of those arrests will historically be seen as violating the first amendment, but some will be seen as normal, boring legitimate arrests. There will probably be some protesters beaten up, but that's almost certainly going to be the cops rather than the national guard.
Maybe, at some point, an order will come down to load live ammunition and start shooting protesters. If that happens the soldiers who follow those orders might be considered "evil", but I imagine many won't follow that order because they'll see that as stepping over the line.
Also, you really need to read up on the actual definition of treason.
Just so you know, this link shares your substack username with everyone who clicks on it, and more than likely links them to you in the background. Everything after "?r=" is a unique hash linked to your account.
Stop commenting on their shapes! The true cynical issue here is Divide and Conquer.
Why don't they deploy national gaurds who are from Chicago?
I'm sure there plenty of military servicemen whose origin and families from Chicago itself, that if they really cared about protecting the Chicago community.
They bring people from the most opposite polictical spectrum, from opposite views and concerns of Chigaco residents, from opposite far states to police and arrest folks they have the least connections to, to obey orders and terrorize residents without any objection or understanding!
I think part of the point isn't so much to dunk on these dudes specifically (although they're not great people for choosing to actually go so I don't feel bad for them) but rather to point out that not even a week ago Hegseth was yapping about the "ideal soldier" to a room full of men who are way more knowledgeable and qualified than he is. Meanwhile the only folks that seem to wanna actually do this shit in Chicago are less than ideal specimens by Hegseth own fucked standards.
These National Guard may not be villains (yet) but they certainly aren't 'heroes' like members of the military like to be portrayed. They absolutely could stand on principal and refuse deployment. They would face a court martial but heroes do what is right regardless of the potential consequences.
If they follow their deployment, then they have the opportunity to refuse unlawful orders. Or even just do a shit job at following them "Sorry sarg, couldn't find any brown people today. Looked everywhere."
Refusing to go at all just ensures that people who don't object to the orders are the ones who go.
But you absolutely can refuse to follow unlawful orders and these fucks got orders to deploy against Americans and opted to go along with it. That's treason.
Like Tiananmen square, the regime stopped using local troops in an attempt to flex their authority and instead brought in outside military with no attachment to the area so they would have less trouble being ordered to fire on civilians.
These gravy seals from the South are gonna be the tattered flag and trump sticker on a truck types that sit around the desk at the guard base wishing they could punch a liberal.
Like Tiananmen square, the regime stopped using local troops in an attempt to flex their authority and instead brought in outside military with no attachment to the area so they would have less trouble being ordered to fire on civilians.
One minor quibble. To date, I am not aware of any US cities where residents are actually rioting. To date, no one in ICE has actually been injured by protesters. Certainly nobody has died. No property has been destroyed. Nobody is really fighting back.
Let me know when someone in Portland actually sets an APC on fire.
The closest thing to Tiananmen in America in physicality was J6. Then maybe the Chaz Protests in Portland in June of 2020 or BLM in Ferguson and Baltimore. Nothing like that is happening now. Even the anti-genocide college protests at Columbia and UCLA don't really come close to what Chinese protesters managed in Beijing.
Americans are largely passive in the face of their own oppression.
I love how everyone is so willing to hate on their weight/body shape here as if that matters, what matters is if they will uphold their duty to serve this country or be cowards and do whatever Trump says and serve him. Who cares if they don't have the body type you associate with a marvel superhero character? Even if they are infantry we aren't talking about frontline troops meant to spearhead invasions we are talking about The National Guard. This just seems like such an easy way to try to start flinging mud when the issue is existential and directly related to whether we are under authoritarian military rule or not.
Trust me, Trump hates these people, this form of deployment of National Guard is a disgrace and is meant to be humiliating to the people who actually believe in something who are serving as it is anything else, he wants them to suffer so they can provide clips for their political BS machine as they clutch their pearls in manufactured terror, realize what the implications of that are outside of whatever politics those National Guardsman have or whatever physical shape they appear to be in or appear not to be in.
Ok. You make a legit point but their overlord just gave a macho speech about how he doesn't like seeing fat generals in the Pentagon and PT will be mandatory for all active duty and blah blah manly things and blah blah anti woke things. Just sayin.
Well, a lot of people already thought the national guard was for people who want to be in the military but do nothing. My science teacher in middle school was in the national guard and he was slightly overweight and extremely diabetic. We used to have to take breaks every once in a while when his sugar crashed and he'd eat a candy bar.
I just didnt think the fitness standards for guardsman were this bad, its actually comical.
I'd genuinely be fine with that. If a bunch of shit hicks from Texas came to my city on a government subsidized tasting tour, I don't think anybody would be mad.
Maybe they did. Once. Long ago. Because the tester was even less fit and the only criterion was if a bunch of 17-year-olds could outrun a 60-something with a 40 years of military-sponsored junk food headstart and half out of breath just shouting "ready – set – huff Go!"
When Texas sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
So is your fascism, but geowd dawm those are some chunky soldiers.
When I was in the army these boys would've prolly not been able to keep up and would've been sent home to eat Ozempic and diet for a year or two before returning to the brigade.
Hell, I'm a supply NCO, trained as a quartermaster as well and I don't think we'd have sizes big enough, lol.
At the peak of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars the national guard and reserve (but mostly guard) made up over 75% of the troops deployed. More national guard units saw more combat than active duty units simply by sheer numbers. I did 8 years and 4 months in the guard and over half that time I was activated for two tours to Afghanistan. I did more overseas time than my active duty time equivalent. National guard units were also consistently being placed in shittier places than active duty units because the active duty commanders didn't want difficult deployments to potentially get in the way of future promotions. So the guard also took the brunt of the casualties. My first tour was in the second worst area in the country at the time and out of all the US troops (we were with the Polish), all but one was national guard. We set the regional record for longest continuous direct fire firefight at the time and a Polish truck set the record for the largest IED hit (aprox. 550 lbs, all died).
The longest continuous deployment during the Global War on Terrorism was also done by a guard unit. The 34th BCT did 22 months in Iraq.
To say the guard only helps old people and with hurricanes is beyond an understatement. We provided the bulk of the boots on the ground and did the job and big army literally couldn't do.
I mean...it was definitely just a joke about the chonkers pictured. I didn't and never will know the level of detail you described, but I'm aware that the national guard is wildly overused. I think there was a last week tonight on how fucked up it all is.
However, these guys pictured are hunting humans for sport and don't deserve anyone's respect regardless of if it's their "choice" or not. So chonkers will be made fun of.
The guards job "in theory" is to help old people in hurricanes. It blew my mind at the time that National Guard units could be federalized and sent overseas. Wild that that is legal on any level. The whole point of the national guard is to defend the homeland and of course assist with natural disasters. That the President could strip the Homeland of it's defenders to fight foreign wars was bonkers to me.
I served in a military in Finland in peacetime. That's basically what we use instead of a national guard.
There was no crisis when our company was on-call, but at least one or two companies stated every weekend to make sure there's enough people to rapidly deploy assistance anywhere.
My older brother had to go and help a city out. But yeah, it's basically just assisting people in crisises.
Unless Putler decides he wants to give it a go, but I strongly doubt it.
I find it incredibly weird to imagine that some people think it normal that you can't walk to a grocery store with fresh vegetables etc.
Never had Doritos or Funyons or Twinkies in my life. I tried Oreos once, but I'm more used to the equivalent we have here (copied and slightly altered by some decades and decades ago.)
I don't think there's anything I prefer as the American version. Perhaps like if you use the word to encompass all American countries, maybe, ~authentic Mexican is pretty nice and usually gluten free.
It's a lot about food deserts and infra and regulation, but also using HFCS instead of some other sugars does have an effect.
Even though we got very gluttonous people as well, somehow ours aren't just ever as Michelin Man shaped. It's more like a huuuuge belly with skinny legs and arms and head. Well some diabetic people do tend to swell up quite a bit but...
Edit talking of nachos I fking got some and salsa, thank for the indirect reminder. Although I'm too bothered somehow that they've made the chips round instead of triangles.
Edit 2 I'm changing my mind a little as these do get a nice amount of salsa if they're a little bent
Food deserts are such a weird concept to me; Australia has about the same land-size as the continental US and only ~8% of the population. Yet even for all their perceived faults, our two biggest supermarket chains are able to deliver fresh produce to pretty much all but the most remote communities.
Meanwhile, sections of major US cities are somehow lacking access to fresh produce?! 🤯
So there's two types of food deserts: rural and urban
Rural food deserts are typically some small dying town populated by overworked commuters (who primarily work in an agriculture or agriculture supporting businesses, since that's what exists near these towns) and tax- and price-sensitive retirees. It's a small town of less than a thousand people and everyone just drives to the Walmart the next town over because that's what they have for options now.
Urban food deserts are typically in poorer sections of the city (areas whose poverty was reinforced by historical practices of redlining and broken window policing for example) so any businesses that do sell food tend to be dollar stores which due to their margins can't afford non-shelf stable food, or gas station convenience stores which both can't afford non-shelf stable food and might not have the space to dedicate to some fresh produce. Grocery store chains will generally aim for locations with some wealthier clients since they'll spend more per trip, and they fear that opening locations in less affluent areas will lead to more crime.
Some cities have responded to food deserts by directly subsidizing the opening of a grocery store, or subsidizing the availability of fresh fruit and vegetables at existing stores, but that requires a level of civic engagement that not all cities are willing to put in, and more affluent citizens may turn their noses up at such neighborhoods and just want them to decay out of existence (which isn't going to work) or worse they try it and find that most of the people who could be supporting a small local grocery store still go to the big grocery store/Walmart that they have to drive to instead, so the local grocery store goes out of business despite the subsidy
Also also, it's either diabetes or the HFCS, but Americans have a very distinct, plump look all around. Whereas here it's often just a huge belly people have and maybe an extra chin or something.
But not all all around Michelin man.
My dad worked at a theme parn in Finland, driving the guests around in a sort of road-train. And he wasn't a small man by no means, every gluttonous and always thirsty. Died at 70 that's how healthy he was.
Anyways, he was shocked and told me that he'd never seen "people shaped like that".
Well, there's a free bonus in the fact that unhealthy people also require more healthcare. Probably not intended, but you'd have hard time convincing me that it's an unwelcome side effect.
How effective do you see these epic quips being when people are being loaded onto trains?
Yall have been bleating "yall quada hur dur" for the last 10 years- amidst an unprecedented rise in right wing militias, police capability, domestic troop rollouts, right wing terror, and right wing armament. Not only is it entirely ineffective, but it shows just how little respect you've given to the very real threat of right wing terror in America. What is it? Are the right wingers weak or strong?
Dunno, but I find it humorous that whichever version of it I saw, when Hegseth said "no fatties in the military," the camera panned over to Trump standing there all fat 😆
It's sad how far the military standards have fallen over the last couple of decades. On the upside with shit cardio, these fat boys shouldn't be challenging to evade.
Knowing very little about the national guard in particular, I would argue that the standards are there but the enforcement isn't.
In the Navy, at least, physical training was never a serious priority except for more specialized commands. The standards were identical, but the commands where PT was emphasized were the only places where a majority of people were fit. There's way more to it than just standards.
We're a tool using species. Fat fingers can pull a trigger just the same as non-fat fingers (unless they are exceptionally fat, sure I'll give you that one).
If you mean they're a danger to everyone in the vicinity, yes absolutely.
But they'd still be a shit soldier. Lot more to combat readiness than ability to pull a trigger. (Though if the USA wants to fill its armed forces with obese people I won't complain lmao)
I do not agree with Trump but the NG (so far) have not done anything crazy where they have been deployed. Sitting around twiddling their thumbs is hardly harming anyone. Most of them do not want to be involved in this nonsense. They have not been like the sociopaths in ICE.
The NG has no business being in the public eye and confronting the police at their own job. This is like me popping up at your job in camo with a gun and watching you. Yeah no, not doing anything crazy though.
They still traitors. They could have refused their illegal orders and opted not to. Especially after DJT's whole speech about war against americans and the enemy at home.
I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
The supreme court seems to bear out that Trump's orders are constitutional and legal, and therefore they are following legitimate orders.
The problem isn't that they are traitors, the problem is that they aren't, but they should be.
Their actions in LA were ruled illegal and multiple cities have federal cases about Trump’s use of Title 10. Not sure how the Supreme Court has weighed in.
The Posse Comitatus Act makes using troops to enforce federal law illegal, it's true, and the UCMJ does say violating the law is an illegal order. But it's not unconstitutional, and given the order came directly from the president and given the "unitary executive" bullshit that the supreme court has been on recently, I think it might be dubious that the LA ruling would survive an appeal that made it to the supreme court.
30-count nugget platter to hold us over while we wait for the pizza to cook.
Edit: Sorry, didn't mean "we," this is terrible. I got excited at the prospect and accidentally joined the fascist military. It just sounded good. I got carried away. I didn't mean it.
Do we have verification of this photo? Also, I thought digi-cam fatigues were out nowadays since they're less effective than old-school camouflage.
Besides which, national guard don't usually get to choose their deployment. They're in Chicago, I assume, to pick up litter and guard federal buildings at the pleasure of their civilian commanders (up to the limits of what they're legally allowed to do). They're contemptable once they follow illegal orders and engage in state violence.
Turns out all that food that fucks up your arteries also fucks up your ability to get a boner. Bunch of overweight people eating poisonous diets, bodies get bigger and dicks get smaller.
So, these guys coild do the funniest thing ever and just every time theyre given an order to protect ice, get distracted by street food. Play up the 'sorry I'm too fat to do my job, even when my job is just to stand there' card against hegseth.
They won't, but thry could. We all know Chicago is delicious.
I was active combat duty for a year, getting shot at DAILY and I had to suck it up and try to fucking kajigger a full size fucking garbage ass m16 out the fucking hatch to return fire
You can't make this shit up, nobody would believe you.
It's like a cartoon inside a cartoon, like layers upon layers of ugly, low status stereotypes that exist for a reason.
They used to have them hop out, but the loss to twisted ankles and blown out knees was about 20%, so liftgates were added, rather than fitness standards.
I've heard a heard a number of very fit veterans bemoan that jumping out of the back of the truck looks cool in your 20s but your body already hurts in your 30s
I had one idiot employee who insisted on jumping out of the back of my box truck while the liftgate was still up. He thought he was impressing his co-workers, who were only waiting for him to screw up and fall, so they weren't telling him to stop.
I spotted him doing it, and told him, his supervisor, and all the others that it stops NOW.
Well, he did it one more time anyway, caught his toe on the edge of the liftgate, and dropped about six foot onto the pavement, breaking his fall with his face, and snapping off the bottom half of his two front teeth. Exactly what I told the Dipshit would happen. He agreed that he probably shouldn't do it anymore.
How did I know he'd crash himself? Because there's always a moron like that in every group. The guy who take the stupid dares, or even just dares himself ("Whatch what I can do!"), and will never stop until he, or someone else, gets hurt. He's the guy that will drive fast with his eyes closed and his hands off the wheel, play chicken with other cars, hold a firecracker on his hand, shoot fireworks at others, brag about how he drives better when he's drunk, etc. That guy will never quit while he's ahead, he will always do risky stuff until it backfires on him - "It's fine, I do this all the time! Oh, wow, it never did that before."
Identify that guy amongst your friends, and NEVER let him make decisions.
These guys can't resist any type of Hostess snack cakes - Twinkies, Ding Dongs, Cupcakes (my faves), Zingers, Donettes, Coffee Cakes, etc., and most are individually wrapped, so if you scatter them in their path, they'll have to stop and BEND OVER to retrieve them, which will slow them significantly. But they WILL retrieve them, Hostess treats are literally crack to fatsos like me, and them.
If nothing else, it would be hilarious to toss them at these guys by the hundreds, and watch MAGA go apeshit at the Liberal Violence of throwing Twinkies at fat soldiers. They've already failed at indicting a guy who threw a sub sandwich at ICE (waste of a good sandwich), when a Grand Jury declined to indict multiple times. Let's see them take the Twinkie Riots to court.
Humiliation hurts MAGAs far more than physical violence, and is by far our best weapon against them. They believe themselves to be the bullies, and they really melt down in humiliating fashion when they get a dose of their own medicine. Make them the targets, bully them relentlessly, make it really unfashionable to associate with anything MAGA, and their support will fade.
BTW, big economy boxes of Hostess snacks are on but One/Get One at Publix this week, so arm up.
Texas National Lard
That's protective padding!
No worries, Hegseth is going to whip them into shape post haste!
Why does it say US Army on their jackets if they are NG?
Are you aware of what a pun is?
Thing is, those are guardsmen. Probaly are called up and pulled from their families to end up in Chicago.. All for the benefit of a deflecting old fuck that doesn't want us to remember that he's likely on the Epstein list for doing the dirty to underage girls.
This is the EXACT thing we're supposed to forget. Epstein.
Nobody's forgetting hes a pedophile who has fucked tons of baby girls. We knew this before the Epstein list came out. He said it on TV.
Everyone who cares already hates him. The ones who dont never will.
To reiterate: he said it on TV, this was not a secret, the line about how he's allowed to 'grab them by the pussy' was about minors, little girls.
Stop pretending these cultists have any conscience, any ethical line. Just call them all pedophiles. They're the pedo party.
He even talked about fucking his own daughter if he had the chance
Right! He did! As if we hadn't all guessed.
It's not that they know. It's that we won't allow the subject to be changed anymore. We're bullying back. If you're tired, consider taking a break in general, bc this is the only thing I've seen working, and it gets to places violence doesn't reach.
Also, your criticism is helpful and I am NOT arguing against any of your salient points.
I just call them pedophiles. It at least gets them to shut up.
That's the spirit.
Tbh, I learned they shut up faster lately.
Some boomer tried to shame me for using public transit, which employed him. Shut up when I pointed out I'd never been paid a living wage my entire life, which made maintaining a car hard whether you knew how to change the oil or not.
Had a nice conversation about local geology after that. Fancy that.
Learning more and more that maga folks expect to be cuffed once to know respect, and twice for love, then once a year after that for measure. Something about sense of consequence. But also I'm recomending mace+ to all minorities(more backlash from some some biggotkuks.).
Anyway, again, basic bullyback, right? Learning late. Might pick up artofwar for seasoning. (sabo manual is already on the rounds, right?)
Art of war is incredibly basic, things like 'try to outnumber the enemy!' 'Don't telegraph everything!' 'Circumstances can be advantageous or disadvantageous; pick the first one when you can!'. Read Clausewitz, either Mao or Lawrence, and something modern; I like Boyd but I'm a systems pervert.
Been a long-ass time since i touched any of this, and it all kinds bleeds together, but from very rough blurry memory:
Clausewitz is... Okay so I found him incredibly hard to read because i kept wishing I had a chance to go back in time and kick him in the dick, maybe when he was too old to chase me very far after, but basically about how conflict is about more than just killing dudes, and killing dudes is a means rather than an end.
Mao talks about fighting bigger foes and some on the role of the (non-fighting) people in war. How a force sustains itself in nontraditional circumstances.
Boyd is late 20th century american imperial air force; an information/attention guy. The OODA loop guy. Relevant in modern deeply bullshit war. There are other options, but like i said: I'm a systems pervert.
Lawrence covers some (but not all) of the ground of the last two from a more romantic and heroic (and older! He fought in world war 1! Boyd was a ds1 guy and Mao was Mao) perspective. And also is a better writer than Mao or whoever put together Boyd's stuff.
Perfect :3 Primers for all.
This isn't about fucking Epstein, this is a literal fascist takeover of our cities for fuck sake. At what point will you realize this?
People have been saying "It's all a distraction!" in response to every single thing Trump has done for the past decade. They just can't accept that Trump and his supporters are just awful people who consistently do awful things. Gotta be some Grand Design.
Distracting people from the Epstein files (and thus guaranteed removal from office) IS an awful thing to do though. ... right? you agree right?
Porque no los dos?
If the Epstein thing had been handled properly we wouldn't be in this mess.
This isn't an educated guess. We know he's in there. The exact details of his involvement are needed to prosecute, but we for sure without a doubt know. We may not know it directly from this case, but the sum of all of the evil shit he's been a part of will easily lead you there, just not enough to prosecute this exact instance unfortunately.
On the one hand, I feel bad for them. They signed up because it put a little extra food on their family's plates, and they felt like they'd be helping out in case of a hurricane, tornado, earthquake, flood, or similar. They likely don't desire to enforce the anti-constitutional rulings of a degenerate. They'll be fired at best for refusing, jailed or made an example of at worst.
But... they are still the hands carrying out the tasks. Fuck them. We live in a society where information is milliseconds away, and being ill-informed on a topic is only due to laziness. There are fucking cartoons that will explain constitutional law if you can't read a text based article for long enough to grasp the topic, for fuck's sake.
All armed forces members are required by oath, and therefore by law, to refuse unlawful orders.
"likely"? I thought we were past this. He's on the list more times than people have been able to count.
Heavy troops
Meal Team Six reporting for duty!
in the mess hall.
Chicago hot dog vendors better stock up.
Heavy infantry
I try hard not to make fun of people’s appearances. It’s not fair to mock them for their weight or their little mustaches or their ill-fitting camo gear.
But….
These are evil people arriving to do evil things. Sometimes ridicule is the only weapon we can use against them, since violence would only bring more of the same.
So I guess it’s fair to say that these fearsome warriors, hot off their recent and decisively clear victory over anorexia, will pour into Chicago, like beef gravy over pizza, and devour their chosen enemy, no matter how much sweat, panting, and snacks it takes...
Unless their enemy is at the top of more than 2 flights of stairs, of course.
I wouldn't say the NG members are evil people doing evil things. They don't exactly get a choice in the matter about where they're deployed, and I haven't seen any reports of NG members doing anything nefarious.
Yeah I thought the guard was mainly responsible for responding to help and rebuild in disaster areas.
Exactly. Most people who sign up for that are actually pretty cool people. Their nobility is being taken advantage of. Now, one could argue that the "I'm just following orders" excuse is no good. On the other hand. I bet a lot of them are going to be doing some malicious compliance, effectively pretending to follow orders by showing up, but just doing nothing the whole time.
No, they aren't. Many of these people are just people don't want to play soldier on the weekends and collect extra money. A lot of them are starting to become the national right-wing bullshit idiots joining because it's easier to join the national guard than it is to join up in the army.
🤷♂️ The two national guard members I know are left-leaning and liked the idea of helping people, of course yes for money, but understandably so. But yeah, I guess I can't say "most". I do think that most of the jerks are still more drawn to the actual army though, and that does definitely help the jerk ratio of the national guard.
Technically for defense from invasion, traditionally used for relief like what you described, but Bush II set a precedent by deploying a lot of guardsmen and reservists to Iraq.
Also I have heard that the National Guard are basically orange man's provocation technique.
He wants the populace to attack them so that he can instate marshal law over the US.
God Speed to y'all.
Same. I used to be overweight (though not as much as they are), and even though I’m fit now, I would never make fun of a random person’s weight - you never know what illness or psych problem they are dealing with.
But in this case I think it’s fair, as 1) soldiers should be fit, and 2) they are here to hurt (or at least intimidate) you, so no reason to be nice to them
Their body weight and physical build is very, very relevant. Someone physically unfit for the situation will resort to use of deadly force immediately. So bash away.
Also there are four of them in close proximity which is fucking hilarious following shortly after the drunkass Pete Hegswhatever was just lecturing the military commanders about how he was going to get rid of anyone who didn't meet his physical standards.
Yall would do best to quit the handwringing about when and how body shaming is okay. Body shaming is never okay, period. This is not leftism. This is liberalism. Leftists dont do this. And to what end? Performative schoolyard insults aren't going to stop the descent into fascism. All it does is show you aren't understanding what causes fascism and how it's mitigated. Does the existence of black Nazis give you the right to start dropping N bombs?
"Violence doesn't work against Nazis"
What??? What was WWII about then??
You have two methods to stop fascism: meet people's basic needs, or squash it with guns and bullets. No amount of cutting late night monologues, or epic slams, or incisive think pieces will quell fascism. I'll leave you a quote from Hitler.
Emphasis mine.
These last two paragraphs are poetry
Given the usual missions I've seen the National Guard deployed for, I would actually give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they are actually good willed people. Which makes the whole situation all the more deplorable and Trump all the more of an evil cunt. Hopefully he gets hoisted by his own petard.
They're members of the national guard. The typical enlistment period for the National Guard is 8 years. Many would have joined under Biden, and are probably still required to serve out a number of years. If they don't, then they might have to suddenly pay back the tuition benefits or something. The military, Guard included, isn't normally something you can just quit if you don't like how things are going.
ICE employees? That's another matter. You had to voluntarily join ICE, and many of them have joined in just the last few months. They knew what they were getting into. They're wearing masks to hide their identities, and all the bad incidents I've heard of (people being shot by rubber bullets, being thrown down and injured, etc.) have been ICE not Guard.
They have no choice about their lawful orders. These guardsmen were ordered to deploy against America and didn't refuse. Maybe evil is a strong term but it sure sounds like Treason to me.
No, they were ordered to deploy in America, and ordered to protect federal buildings and "maintain order". There's nothing illegal about that order, or treasonous about following it. They've been used that way plenty of times before. Generally when they're deployed following a natural disaster, one of the things they're there fore is to deter looting. The whole "natural disaster" bit seems the main thing that the National Guard does these days. Then there are other times where they're deployed to maintain law and order: the 1992 LA riots, the 1968 riots after the assassination of MLK, etc.
There's nothing treasonous about that. And the orders authorizing those deployments aren't illegal orders. If you were one of the racists who wanted to attack MLK's march from Selma to Montgomery, you might have felt that the national guard preventing you from attacking the marchers were "race traitors" or evil, but history would have shown you were wrong.
In this case, history will probably show that the guard stood around looking tough, maybe made a few arrests. Some of those arrests will historically be seen as violating the first amendment, but some will be seen as normal, boring legitimate arrests. There will probably be some protesters beaten up, but that's almost certainly going to be the cops rather than the national guard.
Maybe, at some point, an order will come down to load live ammunition and start shooting protesters. If that happens the soldiers who follow those orders might be considered "evil", but I imagine many won't follow that order because they'll see that as stepping over the line.
Also, you really need to read up on the actual definition of treason.
That was a wild amount of mental gymnastics to lick boot.
Whereas you prefer to avoid any kind of thinking in case it makes your brain warm up slightly.
🤣🤣🤣👏👏 just, bravo.
I thought petey said no fatties allowed
hes also drunk most of the time.
Liquid diet. Not good for marching.
Yeah he probably forgot what he was talking about because he left his nips somewhere and he’s starting to get the shakes
probably using them as human shields, since fat people are better at absorbing bullets.
You mean Twinky Pete?
Meal team six.
All your burgers are belong to us.
You know what? They can keep them. I'm reconsidering my nutrition upon looking at them.
Update: Meal Team Six also sighted by residents of Chicago suburbs
Maybe Pete Hegseth had a point?
Is this ai or nah. Do they train in the military? Genuine curious.
Jesus Christ, Meal Team Six inbound, clear the approach vector!
https://lemmy.world/comment/19820197
Gravy seals are on deck, rolling to first objective!
It's Meal Team 6
whoop, didn't see your comment before i made mine.
uh... more patrons for the buffet, i guess?
Copy that
salutes sloppily, waddles back toward staging position, while holding onto sagging pants
Gravy Seals.
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Thanks! I'm gonna have fun with this...
They're eating the immigrants!
Oh how the turn tables.
This is General Gronewold from the Oregon National Guard.
https://substack.com/@thedangerousones/note/c-164243455?r=52ig94
This needs to be higher up!
People need to know that the real military is not siding with these shart shirts.
I was really sure that some of them would have the balls to do what's right. This gives me a little bit of hope
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They deployed 120 soldiers and 360 chins to Chicago.
It's weirder than that, they don't seem to have chins at all. Their heads are like perfectly round melons.
O lawd they comin'
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If they ever go abroad, it'll be SAS - Steak And Sauce
Meal team six
Operation Dessert Storm
I don’t understand how they passed their pt tests?
They changed the fitness test to a chili cook off back in '07.
O that checks out. Pete’s going to be upset that there’s nobody he would swipe right on. That’s the new military standard the grinder swipe right test
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AFT (Army Feast Test)
They didn't, which gets them a small write-up or similar, I'd bet. I used to have a coworker in the national guard, and he was never worried about it.
on second thought, we can totally take em.
Homeboy in the middle hasn’t passed weapon safety training apparently…
He also has never passed a bakery by the looks of it.
They're not sending their best, but some I assume are trained soldiers.
Just start leaving hot dogs and Italian beefs laying around.
That won't be enough, soon they'll be equipped with segways
Go in the grass.
Poetry
Stop commenting on their shapes! The true cynical issue here is Divide and Conquer.
Why don't they deploy national gaurds who are from Chicago?
I'm sure there plenty of military servicemen whose origin and families from Chicago itself, that if they really cared about protecting the Chicago community.
They bring people from the most opposite polictical spectrum, from opposite views and concerns of Chigaco residents, from opposite far states to police and arrest folks they have the least connections to, to obey orders and terrorize residents without any objection or understanding!
I think part of the point isn't so much to dunk on these dudes specifically (although they're not great people for choosing to actually go so I don't feel bad for them) but rather to point out that not even a week ago Hegseth was yapping about the "ideal soldier" to a room full of men who are way more knowledgeable and qualified than he is. Meanwhile the only folks that seem to wanna actually do this shit in Chicago are less than ideal specimens by Hegseth own fucked standards.
You don't get to choose where you go when you're a member of the military.
These National Guard may not be villains (yet) but they certainly aren't 'heroes' like members of the military like to be portrayed. They absolutely could stand on principal and refuse deployment. They would face a court martial but heroes do what is right regardless of the potential consequences.
If they follow their deployment, then they have the opportunity to refuse unlawful orders. Or even just do a shit job at following them "Sorry sarg, couldn't find any brown people today. Looked everywhere."
Refusing to go at all just ensures that people who don't object to the orders are the ones who go.
But you absolutely can refuse to follow unlawful orders and these fucks got orders to deploy against Americans and opted to go along with it. That's treason.
So they're doing another thing from High Castle, great…
Same reason China didn't deploy Beijing troops to handle the students back in the day...
Pritzker should bring in the IL guard to "assist" these guys.
The only reason Illinois should deploy National Guard is to march these fucks out under threat of arrest
Like Tiananmen square, the regime stopped using local troops in an attempt to flex their authority and instead brought in outside military with no attachment to the area so they would have less trouble being ordered to fire on civilians.
These gravy seals from the South are gonna be the tattered flag and trump sticker on a truck types that sit around the desk at the guard base wishing they could punch a liberal.
One minor quibble. To date, I am not aware of any US cities where residents are actually rioting. To date, no one in ICE has actually been injured by protesters. Certainly nobody has died. No property has been destroyed. Nobody is really fighting back.
Let me know when someone in Portland actually sets an APC on fire.
The closest thing to Tiananmen in America in physicality was J6. Then maybe the Chaz Protests in Portland in June of 2020 or BLM in Ferguson and Baltimore. Nothing like that is happening now. Even the anti-genocide college protests at Columbia and UCLA don't really come close to what Chinese protesters managed in Beijing.
Americans are largely passive in the face of their own oppression.
I dunno, the Rodney King riots were pretty damn crazy.
How I would love to just look at them and say "actually you're the liberal" and watch them lose their minds.
I love how everyone is so willing to hate on their weight/body shape here as if that matters, what matters is if they will uphold their duty to serve this country or be cowards and do whatever Trump says and serve him. Who cares if they don't have the body type you associate with a marvel superhero character? Even if they are infantry we aren't talking about frontline troops meant to spearhead invasions we are talking about The National Guard. This just seems like such an easy way to try to start flinging mud when the issue is existential and directly related to whether we are under authoritarian military rule or not.
Trust me, Trump hates these people, this form of deployment of National Guard is a disgrace and is meant to be humiliating to the people who actually believe in something who are serving as it is anything else, he wants them to suffer so they can provide clips for their political BS machine as they clutch their pearls in manufactured terror, realize what the implications of that are outside of whatever politics those National Guardsman have or whatever physical shape they appear to be in or appear not to be in.
They are overweight Texans who want to shoot colored people, gays and communists.
Ok. You make a legit point but their overlord just gave a macho speech about how he doesn't like seeing fat generals in the Pentagon and PT will be mandatory for all active duty and blah blah manly things and blah blah anti woke things. Just sayin.
Trump is the fattest “general.”
They seem happy enough to Just Following Orders their way into Portland and Chicago.
And they're happy to play their part, it seems.
Well, a lot of people already thought the national guard was for people who want to be in the military but do nothing. My science teacher in middle school was in the national guard and he was slightly overweight and extremely diabetic. We used to have to take breaks every once in a while when his sugar crashed and he'd eat a candy bar.
I just didnt think the fitness standards for guardsman were this bad, its actually comical.
Reserves, they been reservin'
This must be that higher male military standard Hegseth was talking about.
On a culinary tour of duty.
I'd genuinely be fine with that. If a bunch of shit hicks from Texas came to my city on a government subsidized tasting tour, I don't think anybody would be mad.
How in the fuck did these guys pass a PT test?
Maybe they did. Once. Long ago. Because the tester was even less fit and the only criterion was if a bunch of 17-year-olds could outrun a 60-something with a 40 years of military-sponsored junk food headstart and half out of breath just shouting "ready – set – huff Go!"
You have to test every year in the national guard.
Didn't Trump and Hegseth just call the generals together to rant about fat officers? Why did they immediatly mobilize fat soldiers then, that's worse.
That is of course in addition to the fact that deploying them on US soil with no foreign enemies is plainly unconstitutional.
A chunky guy with a gun is dangerous because he'll use it to solve the problem with minimal physical expenditure
Homer Simpson shooting TV to turn it off.gif
I love how you preface a very real, and very dangerous threat with: 'a chunky guy'.
💯
A real chonkarino. Mr tubbster. Flubbery Fred. The original chonkster.
All clearly better options than "a chunky guy". Gotta show some respect.
Not with no ammunition in it he won't. Look closely.
When Texas sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
Lol you had me goin on the first half I'm not gonna lie
Not hard to outrun these fat bastards
They're so fat you can outrun the bullets they fire.
Bit harder to outrun their bullets, though.
National Lard
Holy fuck Americans, honestly.
Your obesity issue is out of hand.
So is your fascism, but geowd dawm those are some chunky soldiers.
When I was in the army these boys would've prolly not been able to keep up and would've been sent home to eat Ozempic and diet for a year or two before returning to the brigade.
Hell, I'm a supply NCO, trained as a quartermaster as well and I don't think we'd have sizes big enough, lol.
They're the national guard, their job is to help old people in hurricanes.
:'(
At the peak of the Afghanistan and Iraq wars the national guard and reserve (but mostly guard) made up over 75% of the troops deployed. More national guard units saw more combat than active duty units simply by sheer numbers. I did 8 years and 4 months in the guard and over half that time I was activated for two tours to Afghanistan. I did more overseas time than my active duty time equivalent. National guard units were also consistently being placed in shittier places than active duty units because the active duty commanders didn't want difficult deployments to potentially get in the way of future promotions. So the guard also took the brunt of the casualties. My first tour was in the second worst area in the country at the time and out of all the US troops (we were with the Polish), all but one was national guard. We set the regional record for longest continuous direct fire firefight at the time and a Polish truck set the record for the largest IED hit (aprox. 550 lbs, all died).
The longest continuous deployment during the Global War on Terrorism was also done by a guard unit. The 34th BCT did 22 months in Iraq.
To say the guard only helps old people and with hurricanes is beyond an understatement. We provided the bulk of the boots on the ground and did the job and big army literally couldn't do.
I mean...it was definitely just a joke about the chonkers pictured. I didn't and never will know the level of detail you described, but I'm aware that the national guard is wildly overused. I think there was a last week tonight on how fucked up it all is.
However, these guys pictured are hunting humans for sport and don't deserve anyone's respect regardless of if it's their "choice" or not. So chonkers will be made fun of.
The guards job "in theory" is to help old people in hurricanes. It blew my mind at the time that National Guard units could be federalized and sent overseas. Wild that that is legal on any level. The whole point of the national guard is to defend the homeland and of course assist with natural disasters. That the President could strip the Homeland of it's defenders to fight foreign wars was bonkers to me.
I served in a military in Finland in peacetime. That's basically what we use instead of a national guard.
There was no crisis when our company was on-call, but at least one or two companies stated every weekend to make sure there's enough people to rapidly deploy assistance anywhere.
My older brother had to go and help a city out. But yeah, it's basically just assisting people in crisises.
Unless Putler decides he wants to give it a go, but I strongly doubt it.
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It's not weird at all.
A perfectly natural consequence of laissez-faire capitalism leading what should and shouldn't be regulated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert
I find it incredibly weird to imagine that some people think it normal that you can't walk to a grocery store with fresh vegetables etc.
Never had Doritos or Funyons or Twinkies in my life. I tried Oreos once, but I'm more used to the equivalent we have here (copied and slightly altered by some decades and decades ago.)
I don't think there's anything I prefer as the American version. Perhaps like if you use the word to encompass all American countries, maybe, ~authentic Mexican is pretty nice and usually gluten free.
It's a lot about food deserts and infra and regulation, but also using HFCS instead of some other sugars does have an effect.
Even though we got very gluttonous people as well, somehow ours aren't just ever as Michelin Man shaped. It's more like a huuuuge belly with skinny legs and arms and head. Well some diabetic people do tend to swell up quite a bit but...
Edit talking of nachos I fking got some and salsa, thank for the indirect reminder. Although I'm too bothered somehow that they've made the chips round instead of triangles.
Edit 2 I'm changing my mind a little as these do get a nice amount of salsa if they're a little bent
Food deserts are such a weird concept to me; Australia has about the same land-size as the continental US and only ~8% of the population. Yet even for all their perceived faults, our two biggest supermarket chains are able to deliver fresh produce to pretty much all but the most remote communities.
Meanwhile, sections of major US cities are somehow lacking access to fresh produce?! 🤯
Because the ones that "have", don't care about the ones that "don't have".
And the ones that do care ,can't help everyone.
So there's two types of food deserts: rural and urban
Rural food deserts are typically some small dying town populated by overworked commuters (who primarily work in an agriculture or agriculture supporting businesses, since that's what exists near these towns) and tax- and price-sensitive retirees. It's a small town of less than a thousand people and everyone just drives to the Walmart the next town over because that's what they have for options now.
Urban food deserts are typically in poorer sections of the city (areas whose poverty was reinforced by historical practices of redlining and broken window policing for example) so any businesses that do sell food tend to be dollar stores which due to their margins can't afford non-shelf stable food, or gas station convenience stores which both can't afford non-shelf stable food and might not have the space to dedicate to some fresh produce. Grocery store chains will generally aim for locations with some wealthier clients since they'll spend more per trip, and they fear that opening locations in less affluent areas will lead to more crime.
Some cities have responded to food deserts by directly subsidizing the opening of a grocery store, or subsidizing the availability of fresh fruit and vegetables at existing stores, but that requires a level of civic engagement that not all cities are willing to put in, and more affluent citizens may turn their noses up at such neighborhoods and just want them to decay out of existence (which isn't going to work) or worse they try it and find that most of the people who could be supporting a small local grocery store still go to the big grocery store/Walmart that they have to drive to instead, so the local grocery store goes out of business despite the subsidy
As an American, round corn chips are the best, glad you're enjoying them
I prefer like a bent triangle, then you grab it by the tip and then put as much salsa on it as possible. The chip to salsa ratio is off the charts.
Although these rounds ones have a bit more chip to salsa, their structural integrity is better and didn't break as triangles often do.
Weird as in historically obesity and wealth went hand in hand and not it's flipped.
But armies wouldn't be made of rich people.
Also also, it's either diabetes or the HFCS, but Americans have a very distinct, plump look all around. Whereas here it's often just a huge belly people have and maybe an extra chin or something.
But not all all around Michelin man.
My dad worked at a theme parn in Finland, driving the guests around in a sort of road-train. And he wasn't a small man by no means, every gluttonous and always thirsty. Died at 70 that's how healthy he was.
Anyways, he was shocked and told me that he'd never seen "people shaped like that".
No offense.
Well some probably.
I'm an American and both my parents are huge and in terrible health. Lugging hundreds of extra pounds (2.2 per Kilo) is hell on your body.
Well, there's a free bonus in the fact that unhealthy people also require more healthcare. Probably not intended, but you'd have hard time convincing me that it's an unwelcome side effect.
Gives new meaning to the roll out don't it
Like they say: "These colors don't run"
They don't even lightly jog.
https://youtu.be/efyEumOKCtA
Greasy fat spots though
so they eat mcdonald all day?
Establishing a BBQ exchange program
They have those deployable fast food restaurants and by god they will use them.
Hey hagseth, are these the prime specimens you speak of
They seem well fed.
If there's one thing Texas does well, it's barbeque.
I can't think of a single reason why they shouldn't be arrested the moment they show up in Chicage. Traitors and criminals, the lot of them.
Can't see anything.
I see only moustaches and guns floating in the air
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How effective do you see these epic quips being when people are being loaded onto trains?
Yall have been bleating "yall quada hur dur" for the last 10 years- amidst an unprecedented rise in right wing militias, police capability, domestic troop rollouts, right wing terror, and right wing armament. Not only is it entirely ineffective, but it shows just how little respect you've given to the very real threat of right wing terror in America. What is it? Are the right wingers weak or strong?
All this after Trump saying he doesn't want fat troops
Blart Brigade
These people look like uniformed ICE targets.
Guess the local stores already ran out of crayons
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Didn't trump say "no fatties in the army"?
Trump didn't say that. Hegseth said that.
You are fully correct, but is there much of a difference there?
Dunno, but I find it humorous that whichever version of it I saw, when Hegseth said "no fatties in the military," the camera panned over to Trump standing there all fat 😆
He was talking about yo momma when he said that.
Judging from their bellies this is Meal Team 6?
Looks like they're sending their Human Hamburger Squad. Watch out, fast food restaurant owners!
It's sad how far the military standards have fallen over the last couple of decades. On the upside with shit cardio, these fat boys shouldn't be challenging to evade.
Knowing very little about the national guard in particular, I would argue that the standards are there but the enforcement isn't.
In the Navy, at least, physical training was never a serious priority except for more specialized commands. The standards were identical, but the commands where PT was emphasized were the only places where a majority of people were fit. There's way more to it than just standards.
We're a tool using species. Fat fingers can pull a trigger just the same as non-fat fingers (unless they are exceptionally fat, sure I'll give you that one).
…and when it’s time to run? Tool use didn’t stop a 400lbs gorilla from ripping you limb from limb. Dicks out for Harambe. I’m still not over it.
Wait, did Harambe dismember an armed national guard? I was not paying attention at the time so I don't really know what the story was. Crazy!
planet of the apes ones can.
If you mean they're a danger to everyone in the vicinity, yes absolutely.
But they'd still be a shit soldier. Lot more to combat readiness than ability to pull a trigger. (Though if the USA wants to fill its armed forces with obese people I won't complain lmao)
They're following an illegal order.
I do not agree with Trump but the NG (so far) have not done anything crazy where they have been deployed. Sitting around twiddling their thumbs is hardly harming anyone. Most of them do not want to be involved in this nonsense. They have not been like the sociopaths in ICE.
The NG has no business being in the public eye and confronting the police at their own job. This is like me popping up at your job in camo with a gun and watching you. Yeah no, not doing anything crazy though.
They still traitors. They could have refused their illegal orders and opted not to. Especially after DJT's whole speech about war against americans and the enemy at home.
The supreme court seems to bear out that Trump's orders are constitutional and legal, and therefore they are following legitimate orders.
The problem isn't that they are traitors, the problem is that they aren't, but they should be.
Their actions in LA were ruled illegal and multiple cities have federal cases about Trump’s use of Title 10. Not sure how the Supreme Court has weighed in.
The Posse Comitatus Act makes using troops to enforce federal law illegal, it's true, and the UCMJ does say violating the law is an illegal order. But it's not unconstitutional, and given the order came directly from the president and given the "unitary executive" bullshit that the supreme court has been on recently, I think it might be dubious that the LA ruling would survive an appeal that made it to the supreme court.
First strategic stop: Chick-fil-A
No way, these guys are hitting up some Chicago style deep dish pizza!
30-count nugget platter to hold us over while we wait for the pizza to cook.
Edit: Sorry, didn't mean "we," this is terrible. I got excited at the prospect and accidentally joined the fascist military. It just sounded good. I got carried away. I didn't mean it.
It's fine, that's just writing in first person perspective as rhetorical device.
Yes, exactly, as long as I still get some nuggets and pizza.
Drunken Pete: don’t be fat
The national guard: ^^^
I’m sure the people of Chicago will take every opportunity to thank them for their service.
It’s humorous to see following that ridiculous meeting of the generals last week.
They’re unstoppable on their shop-mobility scooters.
Do we have verification of this photo? Also, I thought digi-cam fatigues were out nowadays since they're less effective than old-school camouflage.
Besides which, national guard don't usually get to choose their deployment. They're in Chicago, I assume, to pick up litter and guard federal buildings at the pleasure of their civilian commanders (up to the limits of what they're legally allowed to do). They're contemptable once they follow illegal orders and engage in state violence.
The photo is real, sadly: https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-national-guard-headed-illinois-gov-pritzker-calls/story?id=126283676
Why are these fat boys coming out of a moving truck?
They probably walked up and are collecting their duffle bags.
If this picture is accurate, Texas has a 80% obesity rate.
Legitimately could be underestimating it, honestly.. after all, everything is bigger in Texas!
Except the penises. Just look at their trucks.
Turns out all that food that fucks up your arteries also fucks up your ability to get a boner. Bunch of overweight people eating poisonous diets, bodies get bigger and dicks get smaller.
I don't have any stats but I'd bet that's pretty close to correct.
What do Texans do when someone trespasses on their property?
Woah, those McDonalds in Chicago must feel really safe now
So, these guys coild do the funniest thing ever and just every time theyre given an order to protect ice, get distracted by street food. Play up the 'sorry I'm too fat to do my job, even when my job is just to stand there' card against hegseth.
They won't, but thry could. We all know Chicago is delicious.
And these fucking pukes get m4's?
I was active combat duty for a year, getting shot at DAILY and I had to suck it up and try to fucking kajigger a full size fucking garbage ass m16 out the fucking hatch to return fire
Fuck everything about this
Neverfucking mind captain flag my buddy, front and center
Tell me this is a joke? I am not the most fit fellow but I am an Olympic athlete compared to these guys...
Ozempic athletes.
Holy fuck, they had to haul them in in a semi-trailer.
You can't make this shit up, nobody would believe you.
It's like a cartoon inside a cartoon, like layers upon layers of ugly, low status stereotypes that exist for a reason.
The new Geneva, Ohio convention has made sprinting a war crime.
Well... I really hate to say it but...
Hegseth was right. Fat troops aren't a good look.
All these dudes look like they are going to audition for the part of Farva in the new Super Troopers movie.
This is totally djt trying to pit GOP against Democrats, and it's much MUCH worse than burning the American flag.
LOL!!
They're so fat!
Weekend warriors looking succulent!
They are all porkins.
He still so fucking fat!
just tip them over lmao
It's like the second half of Wall-E
Phew! No beards.
Must have just shaved their necks before putting on their costumes
They're really not punching above their weight, are they?
Punching requires them to get close enough. Why do you think they've got such a hard-on for guns? They save them from having to chase.
Who would they even punch, besides your mom (no offense)?
No Juan left behind.
Mindless triggerhappy idiots are going to reign your country.
Call of Duty predicted they will take Burgertown.
You get two in one per guard!
Pwahaha look at americas finest. Somehow these people don't look like what they portray in their action movies.
Great muzzle discipline by middle guy, let’s just keep that belly full and the rifle unloaded
They picked the perfect guys for Chicago. I hope they brought their beers and their wings for... "DA BEARS!"
Look at those treasonous fat fucks
This is a joke right? Im half that size and would be deemed too fat for service.
DEI hires
Well ain't that just a jiggly joke. I'd like to think the leaner ones objected conscientiously
The Fat guard.
Why does it look like previous generation generative AI, where everybody looked the same?
No idea, but it’s real: https://abcnews.go.com/US/texas-national-guard-headed-illinois-gov-pritzker-calls/story?id=126283676
I didn't doubt it; it was just so odd.
not enforcing shit lmao
Looks about right.
That's going to Help TEXAS somehow!
Are they using the hydraulic tray on the back of the truck to 'lower their guard'?
I just can't see them getting down any other way.
They used to have them hop out, but the loss to twisted ankles and blown out knees was about 20%, so liftgates were added, rather than fitness standards.
I've heard a heard a number of very fit veterans bemoan that jumping out of the back of the truck looks cool in your 20s but your body already hurts in your 30s
I had one idiot employee who insisted on jumping out of the back of my box truck while the liftgate was still up. He thought he was impressing his co-workers, who were only waiting for him to screw up and fall, so they weren't telling him to stop.
I spotted him doing it, and told him, his supervisor, and all the others that it stops NOW.
Well, he did it one more time anyway, caught his toe on the edge of the liftgate, and dropped about six foot onto the pavement, breaking his fall with his face, and snapping off the bottom half of his two front teeth. Exactly what I told the Dipshit would happen. He agreed that he probably shouldn't do it anymore.
How did I know he'd crash himself? Because there's always a moron like that in every group. The guy who take the stupid dares, or even just dares himself ("Whatch what I can do!"), and will never stop until he, or someone else, gets hurt. He's the guy that will drive fast with his eyes closed and his hands off the wheel, play chicken with other cars, hold a firecracker on his hand, shoot fireworks at others, brag about how he drives better when he's drunk, etc. That guy will never quit while he's ahead, he will always do risky stuff until it backfires on him - "It's fine, I do this all the time! Oh, wow, it never did that before."
Identify that guy amongst your friends, and NEVER let him make decisions.
This is like watching Wall-e in slow motion 😞
If I'm running away, I want one of these stuffed sausages chasing me.
Which bait do you think will work better for keeping them at bay, a donut, a twinkie or a burger?
Burgers are bigger, the other two are one or two bites. Burger is at least 3.
These guys can't resist any type of Hostess snack cakes - Twinkies, Ding Dongs, Cupcakes (my faves), Zingers, Donettes, Coffee Cakes, etc., and most are individually wrapped, so if you scatter them in their path, they'll have to stop and BEND OVER to retrieve them, which will slow them significantly. But they WILL retrieve them, Hostess treats are literally crack to fatsos like me, and them.
If nothing else, it would be hilarious to toss them at these guys by the hundreds, and watch MAGA go apeshit at the Liberal Violence of throwing Twinkies at fat soldiers. They've already failed at indicting a guy who threw a sub sandwich at ICE (waste of a good sandwich), when a Grand Jury declined to indict multiple times. Let's see them take the Twinkie Riots to court.
Humiliation hurts MAGAs far more than physical violence, and is by far our best weapon against them. They believe themselves to be the bullies, and they really melt down in humiliating fashion when they get a dose of their own medicine. Make them the targets, bully them relentlessly, make it really unfashionable to associate with anything MAGA, and their support will fade.
BTW, big economy boxes of Hostess snacks are on but One/Get One at Publix this week, so arm up.
The one on the top left doesn't look porky enough
What do you think they register on the richter scale?
“Give me some chicken, franks, and fries, and you can pass me a lettuce, Ima pass it by”
Sergeant Slaughter twin clones?
A donut and a slice of pizza a day, keep the bad guys away...
To be fair, the brisket there is really good. Pretty sure you can still make out BBQ sauce stains on the corners of his mouth.
They ain't mine
Anyone else immediately think of Mike from Spaced?
You seen Gary Tank Commander?
Not my sort of thing tbh, I'm not really into soldier stuff.
They should gobble down more Happy Meals. WTF, they are a disgrace to the uniform and the oath every single US soldier pledges.
Triggerhappy idiots. But why not. Suits the country.
wonderful gun safety there, just merrily point it at people's crotches while your finger is near the trigger, why not!
The one on the right reminds me of Mike from Spaced.
I need to watch that show again now
They stole a tank and tried to invade Euro Disney.
That's to funny. Everyone know why.
Time for zombies to run.