It's a slow trickle. It's like the research that was done into gambling addicts. The majority of dopamine doesn't come from winning. The majority of it comes from the anticipation. Or in our case. Writing out a long comment that no one else will read.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that means you're unlikely to become addicted. You've course-corrected mid-post and now you're anticipating that the argument will be futile. A dopamine fiend would forge ahead hoping for some great win.
I know I was being flippant. What I mean is, the few (several...) times I've gotten into internet arguments I am always drained and unhappy and profoundly do not want to do it anymore, even if I am arguing over sincerely held beliefs. I guess I can see why trolling can be addictive, eliciting engagement is a kind of power over people, and power is addictive. And arguing over things I don't care about probably takes a lot less emotional investment than things I do care about... I feel like I'm talking myself into being an internet troll. Still though, seems like a miserable way to get your rocks off :/
Yeah, typically when someone is trolling, they're doing it just to piss off the other person. Like, Bugs Bunny doesn't get worn out from torturing Elmer Fudd.
He stays bright and chipper and sassy the whole time while Elmer Fudd edges closer and closer to the aneurysm that will finally send him to hell.
It's because the only dog he has in the fight is you
Not all dopamine is created equal. Staring at your phone, bickering, empty calories, overeating, drinking, trolling on the internet, porn - all garbage dopamine sources, can feel good very briefly and will lead quickly to downward spirals.
You want to be seeking positive sources of dopamine that relate to an overarching life mission. ADHD is a life of extremes, but I believe you can learn to choose extreme positives.
Wrong.. we are 100% arguing right now... Idk what you r on about! We can fix things if we can be truthful with ourselves... let's walk this path together, stranger.
This is clearly not an argument, if it was we would be disagreeing and saying weird things to make ourselves look smart. Get a hold of yourself, jeez . . .
If you were really so smart you would know that there is no way this can be an argument. Clearly I'm smarter than you and all the evidence points to me being right because I'm so smart. Not an argument, buddy
I think increased screen time has contributed to more people developing symptoms of adhd. If we'd just go out and get a life, we'd be able to focus more long-attention span on things.
The point I'm making is that you hear a lot about ADHD online because people with ADHD have a tendency to spend a lot of time posting things online. The normies don't have to be terminally online to get a dopamine boost like we do.
Yes, Snake, Dopamine. cue black & white montage Back in the late 20th centurt we started understanding that people with ADHD have a deficienty in Dopamine, causing lack of motivation.end montage
I have been very pleased recently because I started shit in a sub. The post was all about some guy who stacked a bunch of modems to download a file at half a megabit per second (your home internet is probably 1000x that speed).
I said it was a stupid and pointless waste of time. Nobody agreed and that little seed has produced a LOT of sweet delicious argument fruit. Funny what'll get people's goat. I didn't start out with a battle in mind but I'm feeling pretty smug about the whole thing.
Lol!!! I saw your comment, wrote something to get shit stirring at a bit higher pace, and pressed cancel. I don't have the mental capacity at the moment for the shit I was about to send in every direction hahahahaha!!! But I thoroughly enjoyed the shit that you threw about
Thatβs the beauty of it, you can just post that, and then let others sling shit at each other. I do it to my friends who like to argue about politics a lot. Start a conversation that I know is gonna cause them to bicker, and then step away and watch the fireworks while eating popcorn.
Pffff. This person is clearly incorrect about many aspects of this π
Source? Peer reviewed source? I think theyre Correct as this has happened to ME. are you denying my experiences?
Your opinion is bad, and you should feel bad!
Come on, no need to fight, everyone knows you're both wrong!
Actually, I'm convinced they're both right.
Lol i just went to the comments to reply "yeah? Well i disagree!" To op's post - now i feel seen π
Do you, though? I beg to differ.
I ain't seen shit bromigo
Is this a fusion of bro amd gringo?
Kinda dig that.
I'd suspect amigo over gringo, but maybe.
edit: shit, I wasn't vehement enough to get dopamine!
Well this is bullshit I have ADHD where the heck is all the dopamine?
It's a slow trickle. It's like the research that was done into gambling addicts. The majority of dopamine doesn't come from winning. The majority of it comes from the anticipation. Or in our case. Writing out a long comment that no one else will read.
Is THAT why I write a long response and then just delete instead of sending my reply?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that means you're unlikely to become addicted. You've course-corrected mid-post and now you're anticipating that the argument will be futile. A dopamine fiend would forge ahead hoping for some great win.
That's just anxiety coming to the party.
It doesn't mean you feel euphoric. It's more like a reinforcement. -an addiction.
I know I was being flippant. What I mean is, the few (several...) times I've gotten into internet arguments I am always drained and unhappy and profoundly do not want to do it anymore, even if I am arguing over sincerely held beliefs. I guess I can see why trolling can be addictive, eliciting engagement is a kind of power over people, and power is addictive. And arguing over things I don't care about probably takes a lot less emotional investment than things I do care about... I feel like I'm talking myself into being an internet troll. Still though, seems like a miserable way to get your rocks off :/
Yeah, typically when someone is trolling, they're doing it just to piss off the other person. Like, Bugs Bunny doesn't get worn out from torturing Elmer Fudd.
He stays bright and chipper and sassy the whole time while Elmer Fudd edges closer and closer to the aneurysm that will finally send him to hell.
It's because the only dog he has in the fight is you
I get a bigger kick by being helpful and sharing relevant content.
I helpfully tell people why they're misinformed cause I think learning is for everyone.
I'm bored. There's nothing to do here on this based opinion piece.
We get it bruv, you win, you're definitely the most helpful rolls eyes
...I try my best
Whether that amounts to anything is still up to debate.
Yesssssss then we get to debate
I've just been blasting off whatever I'm thinking in order to get Lemmy's numbers up.
Oh man me too. Especially that first year.
If you don't get it, I'm genuinely envious. Anger and using wit cruelly can be addictive
Not all dopamine is created equal. Staring at your phone, bickering, empty calories, overeating, drinking, trolling on the internet, porn - all garbage dopamine sources, can feel good very briefly and will lead quickly to downward spirals.
You want to be seeking positive sources of dopamine that relate to an overarching life mission. ADHD is a life of extremes, but I believe you can learn to choose extreme positives.
Laughing at sad attempts at cruelty is so much more satisfying.
Biting wit used to not be so rare, it's true. If you want any you'll have to come back later, I'm taking the high road just now.
Nah. I wasn't even trying to be witty there, just honest. The high-road seems pretty treacherous from my prefered vantage points.
Low risk high tension social interaction with an ego pushing you to show off = easy dopamine
Idk? Why does mod involvement taste like a spicy desert? Sadly I don't write the rules. I'm just in here looking for easter eggs.
I wonder if ADHDers are more likely to be Fox News viewers for this reason
Goddamn it.
fuck. π€¦π½ββοΈ
Umm, yeah, actually I definitely don't argue with people online
Yeah, you do. We're arguing right now!
No, we're not arguing. Idk what ur on about . . .
Wrong.. we are 100% arguing right now... Idk what you r on about! We can fix things if we can be truthful with ourselves... let's walk this path together, stranger.
This is clearly not an argument, if it was we would be disagreeing and saying weird things to make ourselves look smart. Get a hold of yourself, jeez . . .
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If you were really so smart you would know that there is no way this can be an argument. Clearly I'm smarter than you and all the evidence points to me being right because I'm so smart. Not an argument, buddy
How about this, can you interpret what my handle means? What it translates to?
Hint: it'll be offensive to some, and if the mods understood it, they would probably ban this account.
If you figure it out I will concede and admit that you have bested me and are my intellectual superior. (Its not even difficult anyway)
So literally everyone has adhd now. Got it
I think increased screen time has contributed to more people developing symptoms of adhd. If we'd just go out and get a life, we'd be able to focus more long-attention span on things.
It's the Live Internet Theory. Everything you're reading is the sock puppets of one hyperfocused person getting all the dopamine.
If you just look at people arguing into the void online sure lol
The girlfriend doesn't have it, and she hates debating/arguing. She also doesn't post things online.
I'll give you a minute to figure out the point I'm making.
She's hot?
The point I'm making is that you hear a lot about ADHD online because people with ADHD have a tendency to spend a lot of time posting things online. The normies don't have to be terminally online to get a dopamine boost like we do.
Nah, just the cool kids. Welcome.
Often when I upset strangers online I feel bad and log out for a few months.
And people think I have an issue when I say " I gotta go start a random disagreement online with someone to feel better", I don't care if I lose.
...you do have an issue. But you're not alone! Lol that's something
Well yeah, I have a plethora of them, but this isn't one.
That is one reason why i love arguing
Dude, for sure you do NOT love arguing. I don't even think you like it. Just quietly accept that you're wrong.
I do!! I also just like taking with people about things!
That explains why I get antsy when I havent been online for a while. I cant argue with people endlessly in real life. Nobody likes that guy.
nobody likes that guy online either
Yeah, but who cares about online opinions?
Too many people.
I mean sure, but i dont know you.
I don't like me either
Dopamine???
Yes, Snake, Dopamine. cue black & white montage Back in the late 20th centurt we started understanding that people with ADHD have a deficienty in Dopamine, causing lack of motivation.end montage
Oh I see what they did there now, thanks to you.
Oh.
Why would you post this? you don't even really have adhd
This is most of why I'm on lemmy, got banned from reddit for the same lol
I have been very pleased recently because I started shit in a sub. The post was all about some guy who stacked a bunch of modems to download a file at half a megabit per second (your home internet is probably 1000x that speed).
I said it was a stupid and pointless waste of time. Nobody agreed and that little seed has produced a LOT of sweet delicious argument fruit. Funny what'll get people's goat. I didn't start out with a battle in mind but I'm feeling pretty smug about the whole thing.
Now I get trolling.
Lol!!! I saw your comment, wrote something to get shit stirring at a bit higher pace, and pressed cancel. I don't have the mental capacity at the moment for the shit I was about to send in every direction hahahahaha!!! But I thoroughly enjoyed the shit that you threw about
Thatβs the beauty of it, you can just post that, and then let others sling shit at each other. I do it to my friends who like to argue about politics a lot. Start a conversation that I know is gonna cause them to bicker, and then step away and watch the fireworks while eating popcorn.
I couldn't quite word it just right for my liking (I don't have ocd, you have ocd), and was lacking mental power to get it right lol
If we can't have some fun flinging poo, what is the point of being here?
Dang right!! Lol!
I was diagnosed by Dr Mirror
Same.