Jerry Seinfeld says people who say 'Free Palestine' are worse than the Ku Klux Klan
Jerry Seinfeld likened the Free Palestine movement to the Ku Klux Klan — even saying those who use the phrase "Free Palestine" are worse than the white supremacist group — at a student event at Duke University meant to honor hostages who are being held in Gaza.
Seinfeld spoke at the school in Durham, North Carolina, to introduce a former Israeli hostage, Omer Shem Tov, when he made the remarks, according to the university's student newspaper, The Duke Chronicle. He reportedly started by saying, in reference to the Free Palestine activist movement, "Just say you don’t like Jews."
“By saying 'Free Palestine,' you’re not admitting what you really think. So it’s actually — compared to the Ku Klux Klan, I’m actually thinking the Klan is actually a little better here, because they can come right out and say, ‘We don’t like Blacks, we don’t like Jews.’ Okay, that’s honest,'" the Chronicle reported Seinfeld said.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jerry-seinfeld-says-people-say-free-palestine-are-worse-ku-klux-klan-rcna230355Open linkView original on lemmy.ml
I mean, no one should be surprised. Seinfeld has been a zionist from day one. Most of the cast of the show Seinfeld were zionists. Zionists are unfortunately a lot more present in media than anyone would like to believe, in addition to having many positions of power.
Are you trying to say Jews run Hollywood? /s
Clarification regardless of the "/s": Even if Jews did run Hollywood I wouldn't have an issue, as I have zero issues with people of Jewish faith. I have a strong hatered of Zionists, but on a global polulation level they're just a very powerful minority.
Agreed.
Jerry Seinfeld? The man who, at 39 years old, dated a 17 year old high school student?
*Raped
As gross as this is, and clearly a 17 year old is not an adult by any real standard, but depending on the state it was legal. Just fucking gross and wrong immortal and he should be shamed into Oblivion for doing it.
This is the real answer. Really, really gross, just not necessarily illegal.
Age of consent varies. Example in Victoria Australia is it's within 2 years until 16, anyone from 16 as long as they're not your teacher or someone else with authority, and then 18 anyone older than 16.
Prevents stupid shit like I've heard from the US where an 18 year old gets booked because the parents don't like that their 17 year old is having sex...
Don't look up the age of consent in China, they've really dropped the ball on that one 👀
Did she claim she was raped?
That’s why statutory rape is a thing. It can legally be rape even if the victim doesn’t object, because the victim was not legally capable of consenting. Children who have been groomed often believe that the sex was consensual, but they were legally incapable of consenting.
Didn't exactly answer my question.
Because the question is inherently flawed; With statutory rape, it doesn’t matter what the victim claims. The victim can claim it was consensual, but it’s still rape.
The question was simple, and the answer was no. And what a waste of time otherwise
Don't be deliberately obtuse.
Let me clairify. The issue is question of how much experience someone needs to be able to make an INFORMED conscent choice with someone who has the Privledge of more time. It's easy to lie to the young.
If you don't care about informed consent, no one cares about you, so you needn't bother replying.
Jesus Christ. How are so many wealthy people pedophiles in this country?! I bet he's on the fucking Epstein list.
Wealth isnt accumulated via strong moral character. It favors the unscrupulous.
We don't like innocent people being killed. This isn't hard.
Yeah the one who claims to be a comedian on his taxes but I literally cannot find a video of him doing a set that makes humans laugh.
Telling people they're antisemitic for being against the genocide of Gazan civilians doesn't convince them they're antisemitic. It just makes them question how many other people have been falsely labeled antisemitic
The atrocities being committed against civilians are horrible. This is 100% a genocide, and the IDF is hoping they can finish the job before someone steps in and stops them
Agreed. So Hamas needs to surrender or be eliminated.
What Israel is doing with blocking humanitarian aid and having seemingly zero care about civilian casualties is abhorrent. But this only ends with the complete destruction of Hamas.
And this kids, is what we call Cognitive Dissonance.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance
Silent part of this abhorrent argument is that as long as at least one Palestinian live, there is no certainty that Hamas was completly destroyed.
No. They could lay down arms, stop firing rockets at Israel, and return hostages. How hard is that to grasp?
They're murdering children. Go ahead and weasel out of that.
Weasel out of what? I've alsready condemned what Israel is doing. Just as I condemn what Hamas is doing. You?
Do you see anyone cheering for Hamas?
Yes, indirectly. Whenever any blame is put on Hamas it gets a barrage of deflection attacking Israeli actions. Some people even outright support Hamas and cite Israel's actions.
Have you considered that killing people's children (directly or indirectly through forces like starvation, lack of medical care, etc.) might be one of the best recruitment motivators for Hamas?
Yeah, it's probably not great for Israel long term. But Hamas will never allow peace while Israel exists. Kinda fucked up all around.
"Not great" you say?
Israel may end up nuked. It seems inevitable at this point. And its like zionists couldnt care less about the danger they put themselves and the rest of the world in.
Seems like the whole world is rushing to wwiii. Fucking cray cray
And Israel could have ended this on October 8 by releasing the thousands Palestinian hostages they were holding without charges, without trial, in prisons treat viciously. Thats what Hamas asked for and why. Hamas took hostages to trade back their people with.
Israel wanted to keep holding people without charge and have a reason to bomb and steal from civilians more than they wanted their own hostages back.
That's one of the things they asked for. They also demand the elimination of the state of Israel and vowed for there never to be peace until that happened.
Why shouldn't the genocidal apartheid ethnostate known as israel be eliminated the same way nazi germany was?
Note that Germany wasn't eliminated. In fact it's as strong and as large as ever. It was just the government that changed. Yes - I think the right wing Israeli government should be kicked out, either by democracy or external pressure. But that won't be the end of Israel.
If I had a shekel for every nonsensical argument Israel frames as "elimination of the state of israel" or "kill us all" or "drive us into the sea", I'd be a rich person.
Hamas did not demand the elimination of the state of Israel. You're just making stuff up.
This is why peace negotiations with zionists are so hopeless. You lie about whats going on because you never wanted peace, you just want to not be seen as murderers and thieves. Look at the polls, thats not working. Even in the US. You need to stop digging the hole you are standing in and start being honest here.
It's in Hamas' charter. It's what they chant. I know you don't want believe that narrative (me neither), but that doesn't make it less so.
I'm not an Israeli or a Jew or affiliated to any degree except I have some Jewish friends - some who live or who have lived in Israel, just as I have some Palestinian friends. Palestinians that I've talked to who are out of the control of Hamas say that Hamas is pure evil. Such Palestinians don't support the killing of civilians in Gaza any more that I do and they see Israel's latest policies as abhorrent, as do I. Of course most of them got out of that area of the world when they had a chance because they recognize that there's too many stubborn assholes on both sides that will never accept any feasible peace despite the incredible harm such a position does.
Militants are on the order of 1 in 40 people in Gaza. Even if they should lay down their arms Israel should still push them off their lands and kill them to make way for illegal settlers as they have been doing
So, with Israel incapable of eliminating Hamas without eliminating Palestinians, I take it you're in favour of genocide, then?
No.
Do you enjoy debating with strawmen?
It's the reasonable consequence of what you're saying. Israel's war is genocidal - we can all see that, from the absurd number of civilian deaths, to the use of starvation as an indiscriminate weapon, to the statements about mass population removals. Even if you purposefully ignore that reality, only the willfully stupid can deny that Israel's war is in flagrant breach of the principles of proportionality and discrimination between combatants and non-combatants.
So we start from a position where Israel is committing horrifying war crimes and murdering children every single day in extremely cruel ways.
It is also completely evident that it is impossible to eliminate Hamas. Just like it was impossible to eliminate the Taliban, or Al-Qaida, you can't destroy a resistance movement by force. You can prevent (some) terrorist attacks committed by those movements by force, but all attempts at destruction result in new recruits, unless you destroy the entire population among which the resistance exists.
So you are saying that "this only ends with the complete destruction of Hamas" which is only possible by the complete destruction of the Palestinian people. You only make demands of Hamas, not of Israel, even though Israel is perpetrating crimes against humanity every single day and has killed orders of magnitude more Palestinian civilians in this war than Hamas did in the instigating event (never mind before 2023). That favours their genocide.
Well written. And I do call for Israel to stop its wonton disregard for civilian safety and their embargo on aid - not that my voice means much. I do avoid the g word because it's not well defined and I don't think it's useful. I agree that Hamas cannot be completely destroyed - but I think the Israeli perspective is that it can be meaningfully reduced so as to provide some period of peace (for Israelis). As unacceptable as it is, their response to the Oct attack will likely dissuade further such actions for a while.
Was Hamas around 70 years ago? Why did they kill Palestinians before Hamas was even created you fucking donkey
There were equivalents.
Whatever makes you feel like a hero, you waste of carbon.
And all this does is continue the cycle. You think these kids are going to grow up and not hat Israel?
Most people in Israel already wear funny little hats ;-)
But seriously, no I don't think it will work. But it will possibly buy a significant delay. It might help long term if Israel then made huge overtures to improve the quality of life for people in Gaza, to lay out a fair path to dual state solution and stopped pushing settlements (and backed out of many). But of course we know that won't happen, and even if it did, radicals (on both sides would do their best to scuttle the progress)
Maybe the state of Israel shouldn’t have funded Hamas to break student strikes.
And maybe Israel shouldn't have funded the potable water systems in Gaza since they were used to make rockets. Things get fucked up in unpredictable ways. Hindsight is 20/20.
Murdering tens of thousands of kids women and non-coms creates millions of people like Hamas. You wouldnt run out of hamas to kill because you are making 10 for every one you kill. Your thinking ends with either the genocide of the Arab world or the Israeli one.
You can end a war by killing an army but you cannot murder an idea or a movement in the same way.
How can you not see peace has to come from different thinking?
They dont want peace. They want land, and they dont consider humans who arent jews to be eligible for basic human rights. Its in the basic laws of their constitution. Its literally what makes Israel "israel". Racism and supremacy codified into law.
Certainly. But Hamas also has stated unequivocally that it will never allow peace while Israel exists. What can Isreal ever do to get peace?
Cant get peace if you dont try.
I agree. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people in Israel and around the world gave up on peace in our lifetimes after the Oct attacks.
Continue killing combatants while not murdering 2 million people?
That would be ideal. But how feasible is it to kill combatants without any civilian casualties?
Not to justify their actions in any way, but for the sake of honesty, the Israelis haven't killed anywhere near that many.
Its very much so
What a complete retard you are.
I know you are, but what am I?
Or the IDF, right?
Sure. But that seems even less likely.
So there are two options, and you just hate Palestinian children?
If it were my choice I'd have everyone lay down their arms immediately and work toward a long term peaceful solution which respect all parties and fairly shares the land. I'd do anything to bring peace and save Palestinian children. But back in the pragmatic world, I can see that Israel isn't planning on stopping its actions as there's no incentive (except morals, which don't seem to matter to them). I dont understand why Hamas doesn't surrender as continuing gives them nothing, and it enables the continued bloodshed of the civilians in Gaza. I think if global messaging focused more on calling for Hamas to surrender, we might actually get somewhere.
If there is one thing we've learned over the past 25 years, it's that there is no such thing as the destruction of a terrorist organization
The more civilians you murder, the more new recruits that terror cell has in their family members
The IDF if fully aware of this. They know they can't wipe out Hamas. They're looking to wipe out all Gazans
IRA , Tamil Tigers, That Spanish basque group (eta?). Going further back, the weather underground in the U.S. it's a mixed bag of negotiations and military/police defeat.
“Just say you don’t like Jews.”
Yeah that makes total sense. Obviously, if I feel like a group of people deserve to not be genocided, that means I don't like Jews. So "liking Jews" = You must want to destroy another culture.
You are going to need to be way more specific than that in this day and age.
He “dated” a 17 year old high school student when he was 39. He originally met her when she was like 15 or 16.
I wouldn't be surprised if he's of the Epstein list
For Seinfeld, I'd be more surprised if he wasn't a customer of Epstein.
i don't know if anyone worked as hard as Jerry Seinfeld to ruin his own reputation insistently for so long.
I mean, he's doing a great job of it, but there are a lot of other sensational examples
Musk, Russel Brand, Kanye, Gervais, Rogan, Rowling, Dilbert guy...
You could argue none of them were as big a self inflicted fall I guess, but they were all, at times, thought of in pretty high esteem by a lot of of people, and then, well, you know.
I'm familiar with the rest of them, what did Gervais do?
Been a while since I've heard about him tbf, but IIRC he jumped on the whole "can't do comedy anymore because they'll cancel you" shtick when getting criticised for transphobic jokes/remarks.
I guess his is less offensive and more lazy. Just started rambling like an old man about cancel culture and comedy dying and hisow comedians "speak secret truths" instead of realising that the material wasn't funny and was offensive and working on improving that.
He's definitely the weakest example from the list, I'd put him in the same vein as Chapelle actually.
He strikes me as the one genuine example of doing edgy jokes because he actually likes edgy jokes.
exposes that Stephen Merchant was the funny guy all along.
more directly, he leans into the "legalize comedy" stuff basically, pretends that he's too edgy and people constantly want to cancel him. when in reality he's just doing transphobic hack comedy. he's just generally super cringe.
my favorite thing about him is James Acaster mocking the shit out of him on one of his shows.
https://youtu.be/UHqma3rx-xI?t=154s
He laughs at his own jokes.
I, too, would like to know how Gervais ended up on that list.
Will Smith
Gervais doesn't belong on this list
I don’t think this even dents it compared to his “what’s the deal with high school girls” thing.
Exactly what I'd expect from the billionaire leech class.
I wonder what he thinks about a thirty-eight year old man dating a seventeen year old? Oh wait we know already.
Dude's been fuckin' gross for years, nobody should take moral advice from this pedo.
Oh Jerry, you geriatric, cradle robbing idiot.
Oh reminds me of a good video essay on recent Jerry from elephant graveyard.
https://youtu.be/c6692U1AD54
you misspelled pedophile
Sorry I should have said Republican.
What did you think he's robbing from the cradle, the toys?
The Klan lit churches on fire and killed people. He thinks some words are worse than that? What a psycho.
Trivializing the KKK just adds another level of implicit racism to his explicit racism.
Great point.
I like jews. Free palestine.
Nail on the head. It's not that nuanced, Jerry!
I'm a Jew. Free Palestine.
I think all religion is made up bullshit fairytales for adults. Free Palestine and free Ukraine!
Seinfeld is a bigot piece of shit. No surprises there.
This is what ethnonationalism does to a mfer
It means what it says. Dont build states based on ethnic identities because they end up fascist and genocidal.
"Ya know, the more I read about that Hitler fella, the less I care for him."
That show (not specifically the Norm episode) made me realise how ugly Jerry Seinfeld's personality was. He was just not nice. Extremely materialistic. Not naturally charming or funny. Messed up value system.
Haha that bit is so good... I miss Norm
It reminded me of another Norm line.
"Who's funnier than Jerry Seinfeld?"
He's right up there with Nick Schwartzen and Amy Schumer.
TIL Jerry Seinfeld is genocide supporter. Anyway, he is a fucking rich comedian, he knows nothing about anything. He thinks tha being jew or white american gives you rigth to kill entire nation. Scumbag.
Jerry Seinfeld is also a pedophile: https://www.thedailybeast.com/jerry-seinfelds-17-year-old-girlfriend-saga-resurfaces-after-duke-walkout/
While Jerry's statement "'Free Palestine' are worse than the Ku Klux Klan" is absolutely moronic, he is not attracted to prepubescent children:
There's actually a separate word for people who prey on teenagers, if you want to be precise. I don't remember what it is. I'm not up to date on my varieties of sex offender and I don't want to put that in my search history.
Ephebophilia.
It's definition is "pedo, but closer to the line."
still illegal
Unfortunately a majority(? cba counting) of states have age of consent below 18, New York, where this happened based on the snopes article someone else linked, is 17. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States
Apparently it wasn't:
I don't understand why people feel the need to call others things they're not and simultaneously want to be taken seriously in a debate. If words have no meaning then what's the point? Jerry Seinfeld strikes me as a pretentious greedy immoral douchebag and his comparison with the KKK can stand on its own as a proper reason for ridicule.
While agree that words should have meanings, he definitely still was nearly 40 and apparently preferring the company of a 17 year old. Not a pedo by the evidence presented, ok, but that ice is thin.
The term is "sleazebag" or "pederast" if you want to get technical
That's not thin ice. Paedophiles are attracted to prepubescent children, i.e., below the age of 13. Here's where the ice is at its thinnest to diagnose someone as a paedophile, while ethically one is already submerged of course, when acted upon. It's obviously not to be taken lightly with traumatic life-changing consequences when indulged. This is why it's important to not throw terms around ignoring their meaning. People who actually are born with this condition should find ways to get psychological help to prevent it manifesting into reality. Irresponsibly throwing reputation destroying terms around causes people not to communicate, to suppress, and in the worst cases to satisfy their urges in secret which in turn increases the most wicked forms of suffering.
The aforementioned conditions are not at all present in Seinfeld-Lonstein's case, where context matters. Here's a quote from a book I'm reading which is an apt litmus test to decide if any relationship is weird or not.
Judging from the sources I've read Shoshanna and Jerry were able to talk to each other without one manipulating the other. While it's statistically more unlikely considering their indeed unusual age gap, it does happen. They had a relationship for four years, so clearly it seems she was fine with it. Conversely, I've seen people in their thirties talk to each other where one was clearly dumbing themself down when talking to their significant other, which seemed quite weird.
TL;DR: there's a night and day difference between actual indulging paedophiles who cause human trafficking and unimaginable suffering/death, and haphazardly being attracted to someone in their late adolescence. Conflating the two does the victims and the justice system a disservice. The former belongs to the most horrible forms of human depravity, while the latter, well, doesn't. If one needs to manipulate another to form a connection, then it is ethically wrong regardless of age.
Ok, so the guy goes for as young as he possibly can and we’re going to assume that that confirms that he wouldn’t going any younger if he could? That’s the thin ice I’m talking about. I agree that we cannot call him a pedophile because there is no direct evidence of it, I’m on board with that, but his actions are not doing a lot for him. If he said “oh yea I like 24 year olds and older” that’s still weird for his age but it shows that his limit is a personal one and not a legal one.
It’s also weird that he says he could love someone whole-heartedly but also couldn’t properly communicate with her on more nuanced topics. Like, what made this minor so great and why could he not find that in anyone between 30-45y/o?
It's amazing these people still think that all Jewish people agree with them. Or do they think a huge part of the global Jewish population just became "self-hating" or whatever term they'd use overnight?
Jewish voices are deeply involved in Palestinian solidarity movements across the world and at almost every level, so statements like this are just fucking insane.
Jerry Seinfeld’s entire public profile can be attributed to Larry David. If it weren’t for him, he’d just be another mediocre Leno-esque standup. Nobody would remember him because he sucks.
I've long been of the opinion that part of the reason Larry David cast him was because he was so mediocre. None of the characters in that show are sympathetic.
I love that Seinfeld says this stuff because I've always felt he was unfunny, smug, obnoxious, and basically I've just always hated him for no reason. Now he just keeps supplying reasons, and finally I can say I hate this fucker without being judged too hard for it
Unpopular opinion but the guy's been out of "real life" for almost three decades now. His bubble is made up very heavily by the worldview of Jewish voices, specifically those from New York Money which is a thing, and it's not that surprising his take is what it is.
That said, yeah he probably shouldn't be talking publicly about it. Because that's ridiculous. For "regular" Jewish Americans, this time about this topic is incredibly distressing. Sort of like if your whole extended family, town, state, and media voted trump and think everything's difficult-but-good, when obviously it's beyond horrible.
A guy who dated a teenager he picked up at a park in his 30s has bad opinions and is a terrible person? Say it ain’t so!
barely in his 30s, guy was 39! She was 17. He literally would scoop her up from her fucking high school. Technically legal is some predatory shit.
"Seinfeld spoke at the school..."
He really shouldn't be in a school
Maybe.
The old "If you don't support our atrocities, you're a racist" strategy.
It's a sibling to the Bush era "If you don't support our war crimes, you're a terrorist."
People with Critical Thinking Skills don't respond to such nonsense. Anyone who does, is outing themselves as a gullible fool.
Free Palestine and fuck Jerry Springer and his stupid bass line
What did the former mayor of Cincinnati have to do with this other 90s TV star
The art (bassline) must be seperated from the artist (Seinfeld)
In this case the bassist was someone entirely different anyways.
I'm not anti bass, I'm anti genocide... Seems like something I've said before
I think we like Jerry springer. Right?
No.
Equating Israel and/or Zionism with Jews is antisemitic. You outed yourself there, Jerry.
I’m Native American free Palestine, fuck Jerry.
He’s been overrated as a comedian his entire career, I feel zero sense of loss from continuing to ignore every syllable he produces.
What is the deal with comedians who think their opinion matters because they are billionaires?
*laughs in pre-recorded laugh track*
The most unfunny and least memorable character in his own TV show.
That's too bad, I liked his show back in the day, now I guess he'll be shown as often as the Cosby show
Jerry Seinfeld is a pedophile
He also met his current wife on cruise, while she was on her honeymoon.
Imagine that? She gets married, goes on her honeymoon, and some rich and famous comedian notices her, and she just dumps her new husband for the rich guy, proving what a piece of shit she is. It probably didn't feel like it at the time, but her ex-husband dodged a giant bullet.
This sounds like an episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm
he's probably on the files
Fuck Jerry Seinfeld and this dishonest bullshit. Hiding Israeli crimes behind false accusations of anti-Semitism.
Dried up has-been should leave the public stage.
You know, its kinda crazy that everyone has conveniently forgotten Palestinians are Semites.
I have to wonder what happens the day the Ashkenazi sect of Judaism loses control of the country and more militant factions decide they aren't pure enough. Will Jerry Seinfield still want to vacation in Tel Aviv?
More like a dried-up never-was. He was cast in his eponymous show precisely because he was such an unlikeable, mediocre comedian.
I don't know much about the origins of that show. I do agree that he has always been highly overrated and received undue credit that should go to the writers and Larry David. Then he didn't do anything for 20 years and now he wants to pretend he's the "king of comedy".
Wow, really found a great way to blow up his image, I guess being a pedo wasn't enough for Jerry, he has to tack on hateful fuckwit as well.
You can just tell his hate makes him feel tough and important, but in truth he's attracted to it because it gives him a sense of power and control, surfing in the power wake of the genocidal Israeli government. As evidenced by his grooming of underage girls, Jerry seeks to have power over others in any way he can, to distract from his physical and mental impotency.
He's a small minded dipshit with enormous insecurities.
It's when they start saying nonsensical shit like this that you got to look up someone's age. Seinfeld is 71 and saying stupid things. Go to bed gramps.
He's also a groomer/pedophile. Check out who he was dating while shooting Seinfeld.
Seriously fucking shit?! I'm so old!
Gee, I didn't know not wanting genocide makes you a fucking genocidal hate filled kkk loser. Damn that sure is weird...
Ugh.
Yah suprise fucking billionaire is an asshole.
Really surprised how many people are just okay with straight up murder. Nazis and the Jews, Isreal and children, Christians and the LGBT, Russia and civilians, etc. Did everyone just take crazy pills? Just leave people the fuck alone.
You mean the guy who spent decades rehabilitating his racist friend is racist?
Fuck you, are you on his list? I seem to remember you dating someone significantly significantly significantly and grossly younger than yourself you pervert.
Pretty sure he married her but could be wrong
Nah, they never got married. He just dated her for four years, when she was 17-21.
She was in high school when they started “dating.” He was 39.
“Great guy,” thank god he still has a mouthpiece so we have to read the shit he spews out of his dumb fucking mouth.
I am a Jew. Free Palestine!
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Genocide supporter Jerry Seinfeld is a zionist asshole.
He's like the forerunner of all the conservative Joe Rogan douches who have made it so that I can no longer publicly say I like stand-up comedy anymore.
They've literally ruined something fucking sacred.
Joe Rogan is probably one of the worst standup comics in modern history, I have no idea how he was ever successful at it.
Hmm, I'm not sure that's an issue. Do you automatically think that people think Joe Rogan or Seinfeld when they think of standup comedy? That's barely what they do. I'm sure most people are neutral or maybe like the same comedians as you. Don't overthink it.
Whenever I've brought it up as something I enjoyed, people will ask who I like and we have a fun conversation about it.
The number of right-leaning, man-o-sphere "stand-up comedians" has exploded such that I don't feel comfortable saying I'm into it on, let's say, a first date, without heavily contextualizing/clarifying.
Edited to add one other thing: I literally had a close friend up and move to fucking Austin as a result of that shit. I'm maybe a little sensitive and pissy about it all. It's so stupid.
Interesting. Maybe because I'm in Canada. The polarization is pretty nuts down there.
https://youtu.be/c6692U1AD54 Elephant Graveyard has a video titled Jerry Seinfeld's Entire World is Falling Apart that is pretty interesting. That channel has some gems...
Completely irrelevant to this whole thing, i was watching him in a newer talk show interview and he was doing one of his comedy bits and it was all “men are like this, and women are like this” and it wasn’t even offensive, it was just… not good. Like it’s not funny. The joke doesn’t even go anywhere. There’s a reason why that style of comedy is left in the 90s, it just doesn’t apply anymore
There's a theory I've heard that people tend to stop growing mentally at whatever age they become rich and successful.
Then I'm gonna be a fucking genius before I get rich.
Tracks for Elon.
Absolutely. I firmly believe he was just a geek who had success at a very young age and that’s why he’s so immature. Unfortunately he's also always been an egotistical maniac and that part has long overtaken the geek who actually liked tech and space.
That explains my continuing intellectual climb
Same really
Honestly never thought much of the guy… guess he won, I’m going to go delete the Frogger episode. The only one worth pirating 😝🦜
I was expecting a joke. There was no joke.
I think celebrities past their prime should get the Brave New World treatment: once they've entertained us and lived the high life, they should get turned into fertilizer.
Soylent Green.
"I'd like a little Seinfeld, medium rare, please.
I was in the mood to rewatch Seinfeld the other day. I'd sort of forgotten about his other statements. I don't think I can "separate the man from the art". I have this with some dead artists. It just makes me sad. I have this with some live one too. I guess it's like the line - "You can never go home again, but I guess you can shop there." I'm not sure what to make of it, but some things are never the same. Happy Festivus.
I get that with some people to, happily i get it in the other direction as well, i tend to enjoy Macklemore even more when i hear his lyrics or consider some of his career choices.
Zionism is not Judaism, Jerry, you pedo fuckface.
Edit: His girlfriend was 17 when he was 39, so I guess technically he's not a pedo, but goddamit that's creepy as fuck. When I was 39, my oldest child was 20, so maybe it's my hang-up.
I'm going with your take on him being a pedo
Well that’s a stupid thing to say when there’s an obvious genocide against the actual brown semitic people in the land you think belongs to your sect, you obnoxious pedo.
Judaism has absolutely nothing to do with the genocide of a powerless nation. It was taken away from them by Western powers and the state of Israel was installed and ever since has been slowly expanding into Palestinian territory. I have nothing against Jewish people, but I think the state of Israel should be bombed out of existence for their inhuman relations with the rest of the world. They are even worse for hiding behind past atrocities while commiting their own. Go to hell Seinfeld, you need to go back to being about nothing, that's all your words are worth.
Must be a sad thing to face the truth that you made a show about nothing and it's been downhill since then.
Seinfeld was later quoted as being critical of Native Americans protesting imperialism with his retort of: "Just admit you hate Europeans!"
Jerry was later found espousing, Slaves were worse than their Owners. Just admit you don't like successful people!
And black people.
From the river to the sea, fuck Jerry and Palestine will be free.
That is NOT gold Jerry, NOT gold.
i hated that show.
Larry David seems kind of based.
The only criticism I've heard of Julia Louis-Dreyfus is that she was born into wealth, which is hardly her fault.
My understanding is that Kramer's actor accepted the criticism of his comments and apologised (and then later made other ill-advised comments and apologised for those too...); whereas Seinfeld rejected criticism and doubled down.
So my take is that Seinfeld is an odious bigot, whereas the Kramer guy didn't realise he was in a bubble, and hadn't yet reaslised that the world had moved past what he was saying.
Jerry once licked my taint. I'll never be able to figure out why. Pretty sure he just licks taint for a hobby or something.
He is many things to many people. Genocide supporting twat is the rational view
“This is the way”.
Good grief, Jerry, you stupid donkey.
Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!
Jerry Seinfeld is a cunt.
What is this, Jerry? Michael Richards was lonely down in the barrel of destroyed reputations?
I can proudly say I never found this guy funny. Always seemed like an asshole to me.
The bassline outros in his TV show were funnier than the man himself.
Jerry: if you don’t think Israel is evil, it’s because you are, too.
Genocide is never OK, which is why I stand with the Palestinians.
Is this the same pedo Jerry Seinfeld who was dating a 17 year old?
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/seinfeld-lonstein-photo/
While Jerry's statement "'Free Palestine' are worse than the Ku Klux Klan" is absolutely moronic, he is not attracted to prepubescent children:
You know who likes to split hairs between liking children, prepubescent teens, and teenagers?
Classic Soresi bit: https://youtu.be/nu6C2KL_S9o
Classic comedy, great bit. But he's not a doctor, not a lawyer, not a judge. Whoever thinks that conflating terms will help stop actual paedophilia is kidding themselves.
Doctors, lawyers, judges.
It's still quite predatory behavior, though.
What behaviour exactly? I'm pointing this out because misuse of words can have dire consequences. In the same vain, just because the UK government practically labels people who utter "Free Palestine" as terrorists, it doesn't make them so.
The behavior of a man in his late 30s pursuing a teenager. WTF else could they possibly mean with that comment. You're going really far out if your way to miss the point being talked about here.
They dated for four years, therefore I assume there was consent. I don't think the word predatory applies in such cases.
Conversely, we had a comedian in my country who relentlessly messaged women he worked with to the point of once going to their home and knocking on her door begging she opened. That's predatory.
Yes because we all know every relationship is consensual. Especially when it's between a man in his late 30s who took an interest in a 17 year old girl. Why would the word "grooming" ever be a thought on anyone's mind in such a scenario.
Were you cognitively not capable at seventeen to detect grooming? And I'm not saying this acerbically. People who argue your point seem to talk as if at seventeen they still thought as 12-year-olds. If that's the case, then yes I agree. But in my late adolescence I was definitely capable of discerning vice from virtue.
Anyway, here we go with definitions again:
While the corporate elites don't really have a great track-record, especially considering "where are the Epstein files?", I don't think it applies in Seinfeld's case, even though he strikes me as a douchebag. But I might be wrong, have been before.
Dating a much younger person.
So, a large age gap is automatically predatory? When I was in my early twenties I had something with someone 30 years older. Was she predatory even though there was consent?
Don't be obtuse. They're talking about a teenager.
Trying to get to someone's definition before arguing is the opposite of obtuse. Although that does make it sound like Jordan Peterson, yikes.
I think you have a rather unfortunate bias here. You're not going to win anyone over to the argument that"almost a paedophile is fine" concept. The vast majority are going to find it morally reprehensible. They're going to say barely legal is not morally nominal.
You have an opinion, it's yours. It's not an opinion that you're going to defend and change people's minds on, though. They're going to see you as a paedophile supporter, whether you consider that to be your situation or not.
“that "almost a paedophile is fine" concept”
That's not fine, and a loaded argument.
At what point would it be morally nominal? Should there be a different cutoff age? Should there be a maximum age disparity? How do we even decide on this stuff objectively? And I'm not asking this rhetorically. As far as I know most things human are normally distributed and such ages were decided by looking at what age the majority of people are cognitively mature enough to make their own decisions without being easily manipulated. If, supposedly, most people think Seinfeld was morally reprehensible, then perhaps we should decide upon an age where it wouldn't have been? Or use different metrics altogether perhaps. I don't know.
PDFs love Israel. How old is your GF Jerry?
Fuck off rapist
Fuck that POS.
I guess hes planning a tour with Krammer
"Michael Richards Apologist Announces that Desire to End Genocide is Worse than Espousing Views of Virulent Racist Group"
Hes been a racist piece of shit since sinfield. Probably long before.
Free Palestine
Seinfeld should stick to comedy and keep his shitstain personal opinions to himself
He's not good at comedy either so maybe he should just fuck off entirely
The show wasn't great but the worst part was the random standup bits in between.
Real. I remember enjoying the show as a teen but my god was the standup bad.
The bass lines were cool.
The bass slapped. Pun intended.
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Jerry Seinfeld is less funny than the Ku Klux Klan.
I never liked him with his canned laughter sitcom and his conformist suburban humor—a bit like a pop song that hasn't aged well, the kind that was successful in its day but is so unoriginal, boring, and unimaginative that no one wants to hear it anymore.
In hindsight, it wasn't a show about nothing. It was the second best sitcom about friends in NYC.
seinfeld is a pedofile zionazi.
Why is it if you were jewish born any where in the world, you get to kill and steal the land of other people? When ISIS did exactly that, the whole world including muslims fought them to non-existance, meanwhile we have "jews" like Jerey fuckfield saying Zionism is Judaism and shamelessly advocating for a colonizing ethnostate genocidal aparthied.
So he really was Murphy all along.
Who the fuck cares what a rich washed up comedian thinks about anything? This is just content for the sake of content. One rich TV show idiot gets elected and now every time anyone says anything they act like it's news.
This is the type of mass murder Jerry likes.
This guy's a pedofile, idc what he says.
Need him to clarify that statement by establishing his personal view of the Klan.
Most old, white comedians are fucking awful people. Who knew? /S
These guys were always losers. They told us so, and we said ‘lol? They’re kidding! They’re like us!’ Then we made light of the fucking jerks in our own lives.
But it turns out they actually were jerks or worse, and they’ve banded together enough that they think they can tell the rest of us what to do.
We need to show them they can’t,
Not to excuse him or anything—but I have to remind myself that high-profile targets of anti-semitism (or racism in general) are exposed to orders of magnitude more of it than private individuals, and are correspondingly more likely to interpret it as a cause of things that anyone else can see have other motivations.
Being high profile has multiple aspects. One is that they're targeted. Another is that their public statements can get a lot of traction.
So, I don't excuse him in any way to spread propaganda and misinformation, even if it's a result of his personal trauma.
He has a responsibility not to do that as a long time high profile person.
And yet we are all judged by and responsible for our actions, no exceptions, no excuses.
I never liked him or his work.
Jerry is wrong and Albert Einstein is 100% correct on the subject.
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A non funny man. There isn’t one thing he could do to make me break face. Unless he’s gone down the IDGAF road. At this point he’s gonna start cracking out those horrible Holocaust Jokes. Go ahead Jer, you dim witted zionist piece of shit. You certainly got us Goys for a minute. We’re on to you & the rest of your despicable kind. The zionists, NOT the people that are/ and or identify as followers of Judaism. The christians in the USA need to separate themselves with some serious terms from the christian nationalists. Otherwise, it will be a lump sum, winner take all. And believe me if you have the faith a made up god is on your side to deliver justice & defend from other perspectives, I am frightened b/c I do not honestly know how to handle this bunch of wretched miscreants. I do worry for their safety.
TIL Jerry Seinfeld is a IDF sock puppet
He's a comedian. Leave him alone. I'm like 100% certain he's not a total socio retard that doesn't see a starving child and understand that something is wrong. He's probably just pulling your leg so that we have the conversation.
Please don't go orange turd! Jerry!!!
Jerry is now just another billionaire collecting Porsches. Ferdinand Porsche was made Oberführer by Adolf Hitler in WWII.
So he's jew -ish.
And Adam Sandler?
This guy and his comedy has sucked for a long time.