Spyke
feddit.org

Steven Seagal playing Wesley McClaren, a doctor and former government research immunologist in this masterpiece:

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lemmy.world

Imagine trying to rent a mediocre Gibson movie and accidentally getting a shitty Seagal movie instead!

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lemmy.world

You didn't like it? I thought it was really good.

I hated all the white washing Mel does though....

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sopuli.xyz

Like an 18th century southern planter with freemen africans working his farm. Sure ok Mel

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I need my money back for the rental plus $100k for having you do that to me! Lmao!

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blackbrookreply
mander.xyz

To be fair, he's just as unbelievable playing anyone with an average IQ.

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pyrereply
lemmy.world

you take that back or he will snatch every motherfucking punani

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As a microbiologist, I can confirm much of my job has been staring at and gently fingering chemistry glassware diagrams.

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Steven Seagal in ANY MOVIE! Horrible actor and he’s even a “master in martial arts” and still is horrible and a laughable actor in movies trying to “showcase” his talent. Haha!

Anyone remember, “Belly of the Beast” hahaha. (BTW he wrote it!) it’s embarrassing!

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hunnybubnyreply
discuss.tchncs.de

Fuck right off. He is great in The Pig. He is great in Dream Scenario.

He is MAGNIFICENT in Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. He is playing Nick Cage after all.

Nick has had a great comeback recently. And I love it.

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lemmy.world

He was awesome in Face Off. Never knew he could pull off such a great John Travolta. I almost thought they just switched the roles between the two actors. Though John Travolta's Nick Cage was kinda weird.

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Agreed, whether people like him or not, it doesn’t take away from him being a great actor.

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He was great in Adaptation. Strange film meets strange actor, a perfect match.

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infosec.pub

The weather man? I think he fit very well. Same for Lord of War. I know they are both 20 years old, but still.

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feddit.nl

I haven't seen the movie but I remember someone talking about Denise Richards playing a nuclear physicist as one of the most ridiculous things. Don't know which movie though.

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Rozzreply
lemmy.sdf.org

The world is not enough, James Bond. And her name was Christmas Jones so that Bond could make a joke about Christmas coming more than once a year.

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Cruxifuxreply
feddit.nl

HAHAHAHAHA oh my god that’s so fucking funny.

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Dr. Christmas Jones: Doctor Jones. Christmas Jones. And don't make any jokes, I've heard 'em all.

James Bond (deadpan): I don't know any doctor jokes.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

I want to mock Bond girl names but I'm not sure I can come up with anything more ridiculous than Goldfinger's Pussy Galore.

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lemmy.world

Are you thinking her Bond movie, The World is Not Enough? I don't think she was cast because of her ability to accurately portray a scientist...

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I don't think she was cast because of her ability to accurately portray a scientist...

Scientits on the other hand... 😏

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I don't know, I just remember that from a youtube vid. 🤷 It could have been cinemasins or some other movie review channel.

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But was still a fun character and it was a ludicrous but fun movie. At that time, they were leaning into the cheesez rather than trying for gritty, in the Daniel Craig era.

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lemmy.world

Dolph Lundgren in Expendables shows some unusual skills in chemical science.

And yes, I know that Dolph Lundgren studied chemistry IRL

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lemmy.ml

Will Smith in anything Sci-Fi 👎 Scarlett Johansson in anything Sci-Fi 👎

Jessica Alba was great in Dark Angel but nothing since then

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hitmyspotreply
aussie.zone

Independence day was great when it was released. Men in black, too.

Lucy was interesting. Ghost in the machine wasnt as good as the (amazing) original, but was still good.

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WR5reply
lemmy.world

Do you mean ghost in the shell for Scarlett Johansson?

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hitmyspotreply
aussie.zone

Haha, yes I did. It got criticism for whitewashing. That's not on Herz that's in the producers. She did as fine a job as of expect anyone to do, but it's a pretty robotic role.

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ddhreply
lemmy.sdf.org

As a fan of the 1995 Ghost in the Shell I didn't like my first viewing of this remake but have since realised it was because of my own expectations. Now I watch it as a different film and enjoy it a lot more.

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Yes, I find with any remake or reboot, you have to be ready to abandon preconceptions of what you wanted or expected. Fan service is good and bad. There is no point in a remake where it is all the same. Generally, of it's a ground breaking classic, the remake is bound to disappoint. It can never be as groundbreaking or original, by definition. Subverting expectations can be good but it requires reference to the original, that the original can stand on its own without

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A7thStonereply
lemmy.world

Ghost in the Shell was horrible. She played the Major as a completely different character than the original. Scarlett Johansen plays a really good seductive spy, but that's all she plays. Major Kusanagi was ace.

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hitmyspotreply
aussie.zone

For me, I found the bits that were most a copy of the anime to be most disconcerting and disappointing. What they did differently was more interesting.

I did like Major, I didn't like Dr ouelet but I like Juliette binoche. It was a bit stilted. Michael Pitt was a bit one note and underwhelming but it might also be the concept has dated since the original.

The actor for Major is currently in foundation, of that's your jam.

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A7thStonereply
lemmy.world

I love Foundation. It's one of the few times I've seen something that they've diverged so much from the source material yet made an enjoyable story that is still recognizable.

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hitmyspotreply
aussie.zone

I haven't read it, which seems to be a bonus. Those that have, hate it as it's different to their expectations. Same as we're discussing, different art. I enjoy it but some of it is a bit off, like the acting is stilted and the motivations are contribed. It's beautiful and interesting and thought provoking though. I just wish they'd settle on a tone and storyline that they could run with

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I have read the Robot and Foundation books, including the newer prequels (and sequels? Its been a while), and I found the show intensely boring, which is really saying something. Plus a robot fucking kills someone in like episode 4 which is like the literal antithesis to what Asimov wrote.

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lemmy.ca

There were good parts in that movie, but Will Smith wasn't one of them.

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lemmy.world

Look I don't particularly like him as a person but it's hardly a controversial opinion to say he's a good actor. That was one of his better roles imo.

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lemmy.ca

I don't particularly like his acting style, completely outside anything he does as a person. iRobot and Men In Black are some of his better roles, but like Jeff Goldblum or Eddy Murphy, he can only play himself. I don't think it works in iRobot that well though, but that's more of a casting choice than bad acting.

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lemmy.world

I agree he's pretty one note but I do think it works for that and Men in Black. He's a detective in both so yeah, not a lot of range, but it was more subdued from wacky to just sarcastic in I, Robot. I do like sarcastic jerk as a character type which may say something about me.

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Yeah, in MIB he has Agent K to play off of. MIB 3, where he's the sole driver of the narrative, was a weak entry partly because of this.

He has plenty of good movies and is an objectively good actor, but I think his style needs to be used well, and i, Robot doesn't quite hit it. Maybe if Dr. Calvin was a stronger character rather than a worrywort and source of romantic tension, I'd like his performance more.

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lemmy.zip

You're discrediting the great chemistry between Will Smith's character and Sonny, which means you're missing out on a good chunk of the movie experience.

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Oh, that chemistry is great, but I don't think he plays the investigator part well, especially when trying to follow the clues left by Dr Lanning. Will Smith's style is very off the cuff and anti-authority, and while that works in MIB where there's the very strict Agent K to play off of, I don't think he works as the sole driver of a light mystery. Sonny and Spooner's interactions are fantastic, but they're usually driven by Sonny giving exposition. Spooner is usually just running from things as they unfold.

All in all, not a bad performance (there were plenty of objectively worse ones), but I don't think it does the movie any favours. There are plenty of great things about i, Robot, but Will Smith is not one of them in my opinion.

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tetris11reply
lemmy.ml

I need you to get on the nearest bus and not ask where the destination is

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lemmy.today

i recently saw post about alan tudyk indicating he was cast aside because will smith had to be lead of irobot, and they saw ALan was the better actor for that movie, he seems kind of pissed about it(this came out at the same time that resident alien was cancelled). will smith pulled a "ROCK,johson" to become the lead.

wasnt she in the original fantasitc 4 movies? Jessen ackles worked with her, and he said she was btch in the set(it was interview) im guesisng thats why she isnt in anything anymore.

they tried to make chris hensworth all sciency sound, in thors ragnorok, when they were referring to the "spatial phenomenon, he doesnt fit that role at all.

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tetris11reply
lemmy.ml

Oh I liked Jensen Acjles in Dark Angel, he brought charm and comedic wit to it. Yeah apparently there was some tension but nothing major, just usual work stress

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according to jensen, she was going through a breakup or relationship problems, and was coming on to HIM, im guessing it was sexual tension.

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The one that instantly sprung to mind was Denise Richards as nuclear physicist Dr. Christmas Jones in The World Is Not Enough.

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lemmy.ml

If you see actors and artists which really are scientists, or simply scientists in the real world, you know that you can't suppose nothing by the aspect or how freaky (s)he is.

Dr.Mayim Bialik (Neuro-biology, neuro science)

Prof.Dr. Ville-Petri Friman (Microbiology, Gitarrist and singer of a Death Metal band)

Prof.Dr, Misha Lemeshko (Quantum physik, director of the Lemeshko group, YouTube scientific channel)

etc,

50 cents a computer scientist?Why not? Computer science is almost pretty absurd in movies

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Adalastreply
lemmy.world

How about Dolph Lundgren. The Russian boxer from Rocky 2 has a MS in Chemical Engineering and Fulbright scholarship from MIT.

Danica McKellar (Winnie Cooper from the Wonder Years) has a PhD in Mathematics from the University of Chicago and had graduated summa cum laude from UCLA for her BS.

Those are my favorites.

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pedzreply
lemmy.ca

And Greg Graffin from Bad Religion.

Graffin obtained his PhD in zoology at Cornell University and has lectured courses in natural sciences at both the University of California, Los Angeles and at Cornell University.

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wet_bonesreply
lemmy.4d2.org

...and Milo Aukerman (Descendents), who went to college (and became a molecular biologist).

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moakleyreply
lemmy.world

I would have thought you'd pick the more obvious example of Dexter Holland, from the Offspring, who has a PhD in molecular biology. Apparently the line "Gotta keep 'em separated" from Come Out and Play was inspired by two chemicals that he had to keep separated.

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Brian May from Queen has a PhD in astrophysics. He quit his PhD when Queen started seeing success. Went back and finished in like 2007 IIRC.

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There's tonnes of metalheads in science. It's great. Gives me folks to go to gigs with.

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Rozzreply
lemmy.sdf.org

It's the glasses. They make him a nerd apparently.

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I'll raise you the shower curtain I have in my master bathroom. My wife loves Jeff Goldblum.

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lemmy.world

Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones. Dude is supposed to be an archeologist but he's too busy breaking & entering into sacred temples while trampling artifacts to get his dirty hands on some golden relic for profit. Smdh

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Okay but that's more of a failure of character writing than a failure of casting.

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Wolf314159reply
startrek.website

You're comparing archeology today with the field's rather sorted past rooted in imperialism. They point out this issue in several, if not all, of the movies. This issue also comes up multiple times in the latest game. Nobody is denying that Dr. Jones is an outlier and a rogue amongst his peers. That conflict is like that core of the character's motivation throughout. He's a hero of western imperialism fighting fascist imperialism. We tend to view ALL imperialism in a negative light today (as it should be), but that certainly wasn't the case when we were fighting literal Nazis.

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i know many white centrists who are not at all against western imperialism. id argue most white american centrists (and all right wingers) are in favor of western imperialism

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To be fair, it’s all he’s got going on. His life is in ruins.

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lemmy.world

Alexandra Daddario in the AMC show The Mayfair Witches.

She ostensibly plays a brilliant brain surgeon. She starts experiencing some spooky witch and demon-related goings on.

She meets up with a guy working for a paranormal research group. He tells her in no uncertain terms "Do not leave this magically-protected apartment. You are in great danger." She agrees.

Five minutes later she walks out of the apartment onto the street. She immediately wanders into a New Orleans street party, is handed an open drink from a stranger, drinks it, and whoopsy daisy gets magically roofied into a demon-engineered hallucination of her dead mother.

Brilliant. Brain. Surgeon.

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thedruidreply
lemmy.world

I worked with a few PhDs in the past. PhDs do not equal common sense.

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As a hiring manager in IT for decades, I learned early: do not hire PhDs

They can write a paper about why the program does not work. They are not willing to sit down roll up their sleeves get intimate with a debugger and make the program work.

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RebekahWSDreply
lemmy.world

I've known some incredibly stupid doctors though. They're extremely good at their field but anything outside that? Horrific!

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anomnomreply
sh.itjust.works

Ben Carson, though RFK makes Ben’s stupid appointment look inspired.

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I was just thinking of two doctors I met in person but yes, some of them in the news as well!

The one I remember the most had some really...interesting ideas about food safety and only stopped some of them when I pointed out food safety knowledge has been furthered since her grandmother's time. Just like. You know. Medicine has.

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"some "? It's practically a prerequisite for medical school.

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After increasingly cussing the TV as the level of stupid rose higher and higher, we made it to the part where magic purple witch spray was used. I paused the TV and my girl and I just looked at each other, we were done.

Also, who the fuck writes in a fucking basement in New Orleans? Not motherfucking Anne Rice. So stupid.

We're finishing up the second season of Interview with a Vampire. Other than a bad Southern accent in the first season, it's excellent and super queer. Highly recommend.

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leminal.space

Ice cube pulled off being a modern social media user in the new war of the worlds themed ad, he didnt even know how to leave the house

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startrek.website

There's a lot of people in this thread proudly sharing how they stereotype and have preconceptions about people that they don't actually know. And them their justification is that everyone should be a two dimensional single issue character archetype with literally no conflict or contradictions. Have you people even met any adults, especially professionals and academics, that aren't your parents or your teachers?

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lemmy.world

I mean, I guess Mark Wahlberg could be a teacher, but he'd be one of the ones that gets arrested for something after a year or two.

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Because he would be dancing around in his underwear with no shirt to his hit with Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch! Lmao! He’s not believable in anything let’s be honest!

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Not scientist but Ludacris is like a master fucking hacker in Fast and Furious right, that's very not believable.

it has to be Mark Wahlberg in the Happening I think as the most unbelievable "scientist" casting and then followed up by misunderstood actual genius engineer in Transformers.

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piefed.social

The guy who played John Chriton in Farscape.

He was very suited to the action and comedy stuff in the show, but there's just something kinda gormless about his face that made him mathing out and frantically writing sums on the floor seem more unbelievable than the muppet space opera going on around him.

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I always though with Farscape, spending time in that universe and interacting with all the mental space shit (plus all the stuff with his brain) made Crighton justifiably unhinged. He plays it fairly straight in the first few episodes.

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mander.xyz

I haven't seen that, but I could see her working in science for sure. I know folks that remind me of her.

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I dunno; I thought he was pretty convincing. I mean, the man had a Bat Card and everything.

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He wasn’t the scientist.

He was the businessman, his lover was the scientist until the cartel murdered him

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Lmao, that aside, I was thinking about how he'd make a convincing scientist in films.

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deadcreamreply
sopuli.xyz

Easy. Christopher Judge in Mega Shark Versus Mecha Shark.

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nomyreply
lemmy.zip

Dude couldn't act at all, sounded downright robotic.

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Oh yeah, he was one of those actors that could only play himself one way or the other

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piefed.social

Krysten Ritter in Orphan Black: Echos. They gave her glasses and a blazer and it was not convincing.

I've met computer nerds who look like 50, but I haven't seen the media the image is from so maybe his acting sucked, idk.

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I had similar thoughts about 50 cent. Haven't seen the media, but it's just a looks think I wotk with people who look like he does in that picture

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lemmy.today

I recently watched Rise of the Planet of the Apes, so James Franco as the scientist/dad. Like seriously, we’re rebooting such a classic and James Franco is the best we could come up with??

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Adalastreply
lemmy.world

Honestly, that one I can't agree with. While none of them are in scientific fields, James Franco is a rogue scholar who holds 4 MFAs and 2 PhDs. They could have picked MUCH worse and less educated people. He also avidly researches science and technology as he pursues the craft of writing science fiction.

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He became a rogue scholar, huh? A dark path that leads only to evil scientist.

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Tara Reid as an archaeologist and museum curator in Alone in the Dark. In fact the only good thing about that movie was the soundtrack.

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Ice cube in whatever the fuck he's doing in the war of the world rehash on prime. From the trailer it just looks like ice cube is reacting to chat about mid af cgi videos

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It’s not a statement of actors, but I’ll take any chance to share Kyle Kinane. He had a bit where he basically tears apart all the main actors in The Fast and the Furious franchise and it’s amazing. Hopefully this fits within the thread rules.

(https://youtu.be/BfOgjzv-6lc)

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lemmy.world

Eh Charlie day is funny as fuck and Pacific Rim is fucking giant robots punching giant monsters, the fuck you need believable scientist in there, my god.

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lemmy.world

Henry Rollins in Johnny Mnemonic. Dude had to play a super nerdy doctor, basically a wet noodle. Let's cast a guy with a nine inch neck and could actually water his way through most of the bad guy minions.

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This is Keanu in Chain Reaction all day long and all night. See also Keanu in The Watcher for least convincing serial killer.

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No, you are very wrong. Tim Curry could be anything wanted to be, and I believe a transvestite scientist is definitely within the realm of possibilities.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

List of women incapable of convincingly playing incoming...

More serious: Ben Affleck and Robert Pattinson as Batman?

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lemmy.world

Did you just have that in the chamber expecting different comments? The overwhelming number of comments here are white, male actors. In fact, so far, only 3 women have even been mentioned.

You look like a fool.

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