BREAKING: Elon Musk Calls For Trump to Be Impeached
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This scenario is quite the best outcome. Two narcissists fighting each other, hopong for a homicide/suicide ❤️
It's already happening...
Musk was the bank that got MAGA elected in places they'd pissed off voters too much to keep winning.
If musk and trump split, the Republicans in the house and Senate need both musks money and Trump's cult. They can't win with either alone.
They're already past the point of no return, their egos are too big to make up.
That's where you're wrong. They both constantly rewrite the past in their own memories. Shit one takes massive doses of disassociatves and the other can't be bothered to digest a single thought. They can make up and act like nothing ever happened and they're both the greatest. To hold a grudge you need to be able to hold a coherent opinion on anything and not exist in a perpetual stream of consciousness.
Reasonable thinking, expecially when we talk about the two actual main persons in the country and all the people and responsibilities around them.
Narcissists surround themselves of yes people, let's see if those guys has cleared the area properly.
While both are wildly irrational and one is downright mentally incompetent, if they have one thing in common it's holding on to grudges.
Oh I'm not saying that they don't engage in extreme attacks on who they consider their enemies. But Trump rapidly flips on who his enemy and who his friend is based on the situation. He's had that relationship with most of the GOP. Without the staff I honestly don't think he'd be able to keep it together. Sometimes he shifts based straight up on who he's in the room with and how they're treating him at that exact moment. What I'm trying to say is there's no actual calculation or payback in his mind. It's entirely binary and subject to rapid shifts. Classic black and white thinking/cluster b splitting.
I don't understand. This was quite possibly the most predictable thing that could have happened. Trump has a 40 year history of stiffing creditors and vendors. There has never been anything transactional about him, he just does this same thing over and over. Like there's a reason that people have been saying, "a Trump never pays his debts" since like 2015.
Trump has probably made enough money off illegal crypto bribes that he can afford to dump musk.
Yeah but he's not gonna spend his own money.
The knights Templar were the bank that kept the French crown in power, the crown was indebted to the monastic order. As that wasn't ideal, went to the pope and had them excommunicated and rounded up on Friday the 13th.
One of these men will go.
Or they need to abolish free elections before the midterms, arrest noncompliant judges and just have the Trump dynasty rule by decree.
He couldn't swing that with the backing of twitter/Facebook
Like, obviously him trying it is a big concern, but he wouldn't be able to pull it off. I'd be surprised if he could even hold onto DC after suspendng elections.
We'd almost certainly see elected Dems immediately relocate to somewhere like Cali, and when push comes to shove, the military would be a 50/50 split at best. Like, trump can put sycophants in top military leadership positions, but that's not enough.
That's the entire point of a chain of command. 10 different chances for someone to grow a spine and tell them to fuck off. All the way down to the guy holding the gun.
He's be more likely to try and use red state national guards, he's still have to filter, and ship them across the country so they're not acting against their own neighbors
The logistics would be a nightmare even for a competent leader. This admin can not handle something so complicated. It would be a failure, but likely a bloody one.
You have high expectations. From what I have seen of the system lately they'd just allow it and nothing would happen. Maybe some protests but nothing big as that would be to inconvenient for people.
I have reason to, and not that you should just blindly believe me, but I've got a pretty good track record on predicting how shit shakes out.
Cancelling elections is a big line, and he just can't count on the military.
Hell, Vance would almost certainly work against him.
There's a long line of people who want to fill Trump's void in 2028, and they won't be happy if trump refuses to step down.
Like, it wouldn't be a great thing to live thru. A lot of damage will be done and people will die. But trump just doesn't have the juice for it without Musk's money and willingness to spend.
Even other billionaires won't light money on fire for trump like musk did.
The war of the attention whores has begun...
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Yep, same, exactly.
This is way, way too in depth to be an elaborately staged, intetional hyperreality performance.
These two just actually are this stupid, this self-centered, this insecure and ego driven.
If this is some kind of an act, it would require both of them to have been method acting at Daniel Day Lewis levels for about a decade with no breaks.
Its 'performative' in the sense of intentionally being catty, shit-disturbing, dramatic, old men acting like the cast of the Mean Girls... but it is not performative in the sense of 'entirely staged to fool us dumb rubes.'
That being said, this all still does function as a grand distraction to any other person or kind of nefarious nonsense... but no, these two are having the messiest, most high stakes, most public breakup in probably the history of the world right now, and they are both totally genuine.
... It is also arguably the funniest way concievable for the American Empire / Era to end.
How in the fuck do you write a history book about this in 20 years?
... I don't fucking know, but I do know I want Larry David to write a script for a 'The Death of Stalin' style movie about the last 9 months.
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
I think this might be lethal levels of irony even for him.
Even if it was pretend to start with they're both so sensitive and need to be right, it'll turn into a real fight soon enough. But I agree, neither is clever enough to pretend this. For that you need professional wrestling level acting skills.
This is exactly like wrestling they have made Elon the heel. If contracts start being canceled maybe it's real. Unless some unknown company gets the contract like space y.
Neither one of them is able to pretend at this level. It is a real fight.
Nah, we are still stuck with whoever wins.
So what you’re saying is we need to revive the push for President Schwarzenegger
"Get in the (Air Force Two) Choppa!"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives?wprov=sfla1
One Big, Beautiful Breakup.
Oh I bet he'll pay in some way to have trump challenged for being mentally unfit, I think that's part of the constitution
I don’t know. He’s got tons of money and politicians are like flies to shit with money.
He already announced he's done donating to the gop after he burned all that money in wisconsins Supreme Court race.
Because he's a man known for never going back on his word before...
His money is tied up in his companies, which are crashing. Tesla stock is dropping steadily, and the only reason it was making any money at all was because of EV credits, which go away in the Big Beautiful Bill. That's why he hates it so much. It dooms Tesla, which will be bankrupt within two years.
Now he's threatening to decommission the only American spacecraft that goes to the Space Station. That gives the government the excuse to cancel all contracts for Space X, or even confiscate it.
Kill Tesla and nationalize Space X, and he's got nothing left.
In what world is the president going to illegally use the military to kill a billionaire?
They have the CIA for that.
He has the KGB for that as well!
The KGB has Trump. Maybe has Musk too.
Now might be a good time for Putin to off both of them. Maximum chaos effect.
GOP grifters avoiding the biggest pile of money to grift, and you're confident grifters will actively avoid it? I'm not so sure. I'm betting a number of opportunistic GOP will sign up on the Musk train if it means getting a paycheck/personal superpac donation.
I feel like if he wanted to he could out right buy half the GOP congress people though. Money holds a lot of political power when the politicians are for sale.
Half it's been proven buying a politician is not expensive at all. He could buy everyone.
He could buy all of them, politicians are particularly cheap. $10K each could buy the entire Congress. That's nothing to Musk.
I bet Thiel wants it too. Get his personalityless puppet into power quicker.
Anybody have any idea what they're trying to hide with this puppet show? Is the big bill getting too much attention or is it something else?
I think you're giving them too much credit. I'm pretty sure this really is just a senile old man feuding with a ketamine addict.
It can and likely is both.
I don't really see how. Trump could be playing it up a little to distract from the Medicare cuts, but I imagine he's genuinely pissed about the Epstien thing. That probably played really badly with his base. There's also no way Musk is doing this as a distraction; Telsa's stock is imploding because of this.
I think its a senile russian asset fighting a ketamine addict and both of their handlers are simply making good use of the natural distraction.
While I don't necessarily want to believe there's anything decent in any of his supporters, I also really don't feel like he'd lose a single one being a proven pedophile. They're all in.
There was news today that the Senate is considering cutting Medicare in addition to Medicaid, as well as news of major changes to how science funding is sent out to researchers. Also the travel bans for foreign nationals from certain countries.
bingo
Could be Truth social BTC ETF
I highly doubt it's anything. They're selfish egotistical people out for their own gains. Elon never cared for Trump or the Republicans, just about what made him the most money. Now he's buthurt and lashing out.
Imagine a timeline where Biden invited Elon to the electric car summit or whatever it was called. I imagine flipping to the Republicans was a response to being but hurt about that.
So let me get that straight, you spent hundreds of millions of dollars to get a guy, who you think should be impeached and is guilty of underage sex, to be the president of the United States?
He spent hundreds of millions to scrape personal data of all US citizens and cripple investigations into his businesses.
This is the real bottom line, right here
He KNEW about the underage sex stuff when he spent the nearly 300 billion dollars too.
I have this feeling that JD Vance is way worse than Trump
Vance is absolutely worse. He's the true disciple of Curtis Yarvin, and that's the end of the country as we know it.
You seem to be ignoring the entire class that owns them. Peter Thiel, Marc Andreeson, etc. can "create" political capital through manufacturing it. That's how Vance even got elected to Senate in the first place.
He doesn't resonate as strongly with the MAGA base as Trump of course, but since when did the will of the people matter, especially now that there are loyalists in every notable and important position in the whole of the executive (all agencies), legislative, and judicial branch.
Vance also has no charisma or personality to speak of. He can’t lead a movement like MAGA.
I feel like you could have said the same thing about Chavez and Maduro in Venezuela...
Yes, but he won’t be backed up by maga. There will be more internal fighting.
OKey at least there is that. I just want somebody in the US office who will fix the political system to be more compromise based, but I think I'll sooner see a unicorn irl.
Vance is totally owned by Peter Theil, who is a well-known Psychopathic Oligarch.
Yeah, unfortunately, there’s no one in the line of succession I particularly like. At least RFK is #12 and Linda McMahon is #16, both pretty far down.
He might be, but that's a chance I'm willing to take given how fucking terrible Trump is.
That's because he's dumb enough to follow the dumb guy. We all know he's a fuckin moron.
Is this a massive gamble by Elmo to rebuild his brand image by forcing me to agree with him on certain issues? Let’s not forget this was the same guy Nazi saluting this dude at his Inauguration a few short months ago.
No, its not. Musk is just salty Trump used and discarded him. You have to understand, these are just children who stumbled into power and never really grew up.
Yeah - nepo babies are like this. Made the mistake of marrying one, and any perceived slight needed punishment and retaliation.
It's all just show. Elon well get government contracts and we'll get wealthy from the stock market. Everything else is showmanship he's the current fall guy look everything thet sucks is Elons fault
I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just enjoying two enemies fight it out.
Can we have both of these? Please please please?
I know there is some clause or stipulation that allows for the seizure of assets obtained by illegal immigrants.
Musk is an illegal immigrant who pursued business ventures in violation of his school visa and lied about it.
now we are talking
Consider this, JD Vance is Peter Thiel's Acolyte, who desperately wants to bring about a global technocracy. What if all of this hasn't been a genuine attempt yet. What if it's merely theatre that has been setting the stage for Vance to take over. Trump gets to enrich his family beyond their wildest imagination, then he peaces out and the real horror begins.
I don't see Vance flags on people's trucks. I see Trump flags. I just don't know that Vance gets the backing Trump does. I think the Rs capitulate to Trump so much because of his rabies base, and there's this concern they'll be replaced by someone who Trump endorses.
I do think it's all a game for wealthy people, and we will just pay for it one way or another, regardless.
MAGA is a classic cult of personality. It's all HitlerPig, there is no #2 waiting in the wings, not even his own spawn. When HitlerPig goes, MAGA is dead, and the backstabbing will become open warfare.
If the Dems can get their shit together, and have the spine to act, they'll have the opportunity to sweep up the most corrupt traitors, and remove them from politics forever. They can hit a giant reset button on American politics.
Let's see if they have the nerve for bold action on America's behalf.
On the other hand, Vance is a loathsome piece of shit who even the MAGAts don't like much.
This is like hearing the school saying the two biggest bullies are going to fight in the yard after school
Everyone knows that one of them can't hit any thing harder than a pillow and the other always chickens out against any opponent unless the person they'll punch is held down by four guys.
The entire school knows that this shit show is a circus that will just be full of drama and no fighting .... but we're all going to head out onto the yard anyway to laugh at how stupid these idiots are going perform.
I'll see you all on the yard after the last bell at 3pm
Elmo the degenerate mass murderer can get fucked.
They are both corrupt degenerates that lack humanity and should be dealt with in a way that accounts for their lack of humanity.
Pretty sure he can’t, actually.
Too much Special K.
So hard use of ketamine causes extensive damage to the urinary tract, and damages the bladder (and eventually causes kidney failure as shit backs up.)
It makes pissing incredibly painful.
Thing is, when ejaculating, semen also passed through the urethra, which is part of the lower urinary tract. So that would also probably be incredibly painful as well.
"this is your dick. This is your dick on drugs. No. really. OUCH. Don't do drugs, kay!" is a very persuasive message.
And yes, it is horrifying. Though I kinda think it's karmic justice in Musk's case.
Dude should've used DMT instead.
The word is his weiner is already unusable due to botched penis enlargement surgery.
Why am I rooting for Elon Musk in 2025?
The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. But they can still be useful.
Because he spent the last 4 months balls deep in everything relating to the government and probably has access to all the information he could ever want to take him down. I fucking hate the guy, but it's one of those "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kinda situation.
No, he was just gathering it to hand over to Palantir. Once again, Peter Thiel, the real CEO of paypal is the shadowy puppeteer.
You shouldn't be. When in history has rich people infighting worked out for poor people?
I guess it's great that they're seemingly not working together, but I find it hard to get excited.
“When the elephants fight, the grass is crushed. When the elephants make love, the grass is crushed.”
Because it's easy to manipulate the general public with these planned out and scheduled spectacles specifically developed to provide cover for all the truly terrible stuff that's being done just slightly behind the curtains while also giving both sides convenient cover from the other's failures.
Who could see this coming said that one clueless guy who didn't.
I was waiting for those two to fall out. Two egos this big were always going to clash sooner or later. This will be entertaining and hopefully damaging to both of them.
I wonder what all the conservative virtue signallers are going to do with their fully-loaded foundation edition cyberbeast cybertrucks now?
He also tweeted a few hours ago that he's thinking of starting a new political party (for the 80%?). Imagine if he Ross-Perots the next election. Either that or he becomes so petty he starts primary-ing Trump supporters in the House. He has a lot of options. Though I don't expect much is gonna come out of it. Probably throw a few more shots to Trump to repair Tesla's image and take a break from politics.
Ah yes, the 80% and they all support white genocide. /s
What I really love about this is that Trump is so narcissistic that he earnestly believed that Elon liked him. That he believed in his vision for the country and that he wouldn't want anything in return, like a load more juicy government contracts, a bill to mandate that petrol cars would be phased out, or all safety regulations about self driving cars to be torn up.
Bless his cold dead heart for being exactly what everybody knows he is. Everybody except those idiots who jump into bed with him, because all those other people he betrayed were losers who just weren't smart enough.
i mean...you could just as easily say the reverse, it honestly seemed like they needed each other just as much both ways
Yeah, but Trump got what he wanted first.
There's some major schadenfreude in this, but never forget all of the damage that DOGE did to the government & countless numbers of its loyal employees.
What a absolutely wild timeline we are living in
Mommy and daddy are fighting. 🫠
This man is an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT who needs to Be Deported!
-People who Gargled Elon's Balls yesterday!
Imagine thinking his voice matters more than Thiel's voice.
I really loathe narcistic billionaires and hate paying any attention to them at all. But 2 narcisstic billionaires fighting each other? That I like to watch.
The only disadvantage is that one of them will probably come out on top and become even more insufferable than he was before.
If anyone could make a conviction happen, it's Musk. He need only threaten to fund primary challengers for 10 Republicans in the house and ~15 senators.
He's got the money to do it.
Lmao, two idiots fighting. This seemed kind of inevitable, they’re not compatible personality types to work with each other.
Elon definitely thinks he has more influence with trump’s crowd than he actually has, but I also think his position at twitter makes him dangerous to trump by undermining his ability to reach a lot of people who haven’t fully crawled down the maga conspiracy pipeline.
I don’t think he’s going to be able to shift much support to Vance ether. Vance and his ilk are just to weird for most trump supporters.
Next week headline "musk dead from ketimine overdose, that caused him fall on some bullettes"
Please don't offer me a glimpse of hope. Not in these dark times.
Just the inevitable result when two thin-skinned narcissists are in the same room.
The main character of the world was that guy who did dumb shit like shipping coal to newcastle and bed pans to the tropics but was massively successful anyway, all of the rest of us were just NPCs for that one guy and now that he's dead the rest of the universe has no meaning anymore.
Lol like they are gonna do that. Usa are the most incompetent nation in the world, they just watch as their 'democracy' disintegrates into fascism
looks around... what democracy?
And leave JD Vance in charge?! Are you mad?! Can we just nuke the line of succession?
Yes, I agree. We should put Trump in a peach and roll him off a cliff.
A flaming peach.
Now i have an image of Trump in a peach dress in my head. Thanks for that :/
Woah, woah, dial it back Ketamine Elmo. You gotta save some for tomorrow.
Let him cook
He's just so nutty.
Is it really as simple as the bill being unfavorable for Elno?
So as long as the bill had not harmed US car manufacturers for example he would've continued his bullshit loyalty?
I just don't really understand what's happening or why.
I think Trump might deport this African immigrant for being part of some plot against the government.
Yessss let the hate flow through you
The silver lining to the shit show of the last 9 months is that the Republican drama has finally gotten entertaining.
I mean I agree but what a little piss ant, lol.
Very "Kick me out of your club, huh? Well see about that ..."
Impeach Trump, deport Musk... but then Vance gets couch-cast ? I'd rather not see this happen
Who will win this fight?
Everybody!
Let's see if it's real or more kabuki.
If Trump announces cancellation of major contracts with Musk-owned firms, it's probably real. Otherwise, not.
They could just shell company their way out of this. It's all kayfabe.
Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long.
My wife was sure Musk wouldn’t make it past March.
I’m sure we are wanting this for very different reasons.
Both deserve some Piazzale Loreto'ing
That marriage didn't last long 😂😂😂😂 This is going to be highly entertaining.
Lol this is getting better and better! We knew they'd have a breakup eventually.
With luck muskrat will give us some damning evidence as he tries to win back the public's view via his new PR team lolol
Just going at it like two whores at the great capitalist gangbang.
you call this BREAKING? just another day
LOL!!!
This is amazing!!
We’re not going to be able tell which political party Tesla arsonists are affiliated with.
The hornet’s nest has been kicked now
Well, I've been saying that for months. Do I get money now?
King Kong vs Godzilla isn’t gonna have shit on what’s to come between these two monsters.
This is chicken soup for the soul.
sadly, it looks like these ghouls are making up now, it was all a little puppet show...
Woo-hoo!
We live in stupid times… where oligarchs fight each other on twitter
Is stinky out of Special K again?
Careful, Elon, or you might get another black eye.
Yea sure mate, what ever you want! Lol
USA citizens didn't do it, you will? I can only hope.
More spam news from USA nice.
Ok, so let me try to make sense of this:
Around the year 2010-2020, i and many other vehemently warned against the issue of rising national debt. Yet "experts" said "it's fine, we can make as much debt as we want to, nothing bad is going to happen because of it lol".
Starting in the last 5 years or so, lots of experts say "oh no, the national debt is way to high, that's a disaster, that's a catastrophe, we can't let that happen, who put us into this situation?" Just let me appreciate the irony for a bit. I fucking called it. I said this was going to happen. I was called insane. This feels really validating to me.
Anyways, since now lots of people, including economists, are angry that the debt is too high, people want it lowered. The obvious and straightforward solution would of course be to introduce a wealth tax (i.e. a tax on millionaires and billionaires).
In the beginning of 2025, Musk and Trump both agreed (at least in public) that the debt has to be lowered. Musk's attempt was to cut the federal government. Well, the federal government spends money for two things, mostly: subsidies (social security, medical bill assistance, ...) and data-processing (i.e., enforcing regulations, tax collection agency, ...). The first one costs most of the money, but reducing it gets the public angry (understandably) and is therefore a political suicide. The second one doesn't really cost that much, yet that is the one that Musk attempted to reduce to the point of dysfunctionality. Since it didn't cost much to begin with, reducing it didn't save a lot of money. In May 2025, Trump says "was Musk's DOGE all a hoax?" and the feud begins. Musk realizes that Trump is against increasing taxes for the rich and publicly accuses Trump of having no actual intention of lowering the national debt. This is where we are now.
You may already know about this, but increasing the national debt has been the point. For five decades.
https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/thom-hartmann/two-santas-strategy-gop-used-economic-scam-manipulate-americans-40-years/
The rethuglicans have literally used false concern about the debt for decades now? They then get into office and blow it up, but the next time a dem is in office, the debt is once again the worst problem ever and is out of control. Rinse>repeat, again, for decades now.
Edit: oh, the article posted by SoleInvictus lays it out much better than I tried
The ultimate irony being that the "national debt" is simply the tally of all interest bearing and non interest bearing dollars created by the government that haven't been taxed out of existence.
There's no scenario where we can't pay debt denominated in our own currency, unless the government chooses not to pay.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sectoral_balances
Well, yeah, but having an exponentially inflating debt leads to hyperinflation which makes the dollar worthless, and that has real-world consequences.
I think if the dollar loses its value, society will jump to another alternative payment method, maybe crypto or sth else entirely, and that would be worse because it means you end up without state control. I.e., it is like having no state regulations anymore, and then who protects the citizens from corpo's overreach? A lot of regulations are tied to things-being-measured-in-dollars. Like corporate taxes, or social security.
Was anybody else around for the BBA in the 90s? We literally fixed this once and then Dubya fucked it up immediately.
70% of the country can't stand him, but Rand Paul has been saying this too, and sometimes voting against the Republicans on spending.
Inb4 this is a penta dimensional play
Musk accused trump of being, allegedly, on the Epstein list
The Dems request and approve for this list to be released
Trump ends not being on the list, but the Dem leadership does
Absolute trolling + pure cinema
Except we've literally had multiple photographs of Trump and Epstein next to each other at different times for the last 10 years (at least). Trumps connections with Epstein are very public knowledge. Heck, we have firsthand testimony from Trump himself saying that he and Epstein were good friends, and he knows that Epstein was fucking around with very young women.
If trump was not on the Epstein files list, then I would be immediately suspicious of who else may have been removed, or added, to the list.