German communist accelerationists went into the oven just like everyone else.
Lmao. Yep, but not the liberal collaborators. Convenient for them, too - not just because they didn't die but because they got rid of those pesky communists.
Idk, I think the dems have a bit more culpability than people want to admit since they aren't just committing the same war crimes as the republicans, but suppressing the opposition to it in their own party, too.
Not that republicans wouldn't do the same thing if any opposition existed within their own base to begin with, but democrats are doing it even as they know their base actively resents them for it. That says something extra about their culpability.
Maybe, but when they went too hard, he applied pressure. Trump offered to take over and help in the genocide (Middle East Riviera plan).
Democrats are not good, but unfortunately, those idiots are temporarily needed to dump out the fascists.
Politics in FPTP is a bit like a bus, and if you cannot get a bus where you need to go, get one in roughly the right direction.
The amount of "Genocide Joe" Lemmyers who helped cement genocide Trump are complicit in what is effectively a mass starvation. At least Biden tried to step in with supplies when Israel stopped last time.
Biden gave zero genuine pressure to end the genocide. Instead of implementing a weapons embargo, he sent tens of billions worth of weapons used to prolong the genocide.
The Biden administration allowed Israel unprecedented leeway to carry out its military offensive, despite the enormous death and devastation it inflicted on Gaza. Former Israeli ambassador, Michael Herzog, made a startling admission about Biden’s support: “God did the State of Israel a favour that Biden was the president during this period. We fought [in Gaza] for over a year and the administration never came to us and said, ‘ceasefire now.’ It never did. And that’s not to be taken for granted.” His remarks encapsulated a broader sentiment that the White House gave Benjamin Netanyahu all the political space he needed to execute the military offensive, which has claimed the lives of more than 52,000 Palestinians, mainly women and children.
Even the proposal to ethnically cleanse the entire population of Gaza, or 'empty Gaza of palesinians,' by removing them to neighboring countries, was first proposed by the Biden admin behind closed doors
The diplomat said Egypt rejected similar proposals from the Biden administration and European countries early in the war, which was sparked by Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023 attack into southern Israel. The earlier proposals were broached privately, while Trump announced his plan at a White House press conference alongside Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
When Israel went too hard on siege he did try to step in. Not enough, but the attempted but failed aid pier was far more than Trump has done or would do.
Also, he pressured and got a crossing reopened "Within hours of Mr Biden's call, Israel said it would open the Erez crossing in northern Gaza and the port of Ashdod in southern Israel to aid, and pledged to drastically improve security co-ordination with groups delivering assistance to Palestinians."
As I made clear, I'm not defending Biden or claiming he's good. Thousands have died and I fear if the situation doesn't change soon, I fear it could be a magnitude of 10 higher. Trump is showing zero signs of any pressure. If anything, he cheers Israel on. It absolutely disturbs me, that through resentment of Biden folks would rather see Trump stay in and have hundreds of thousands of more Gazans die through starvation.
I will say, those that keep propping Trump up are complicit in this. If starvation is happening and you don't want change, you want this situation.
The first link mentions and puts into context everything you mention and much more. Tens to hundreds of thousands have died under Biden's watch alone, he is a committed Zionist. The actions were performative and used as a way to justify the ongoing material support for the genocide. You are defending Biden here, you even grossly minimized the death count, not to mention the total destruction of the educational, medical, and historical sites within Gaza.
Pro-palestinian advocates have been pointing this out for the entire duration of the genocide under the Biden admin because it has been clear that a change in foreign policy to a weapons embargo was critical to both end the ceasefire and significantly increase the chances of the Democratic Party to win against Trump. The party's decision to instead prioritize support for the genocide over focusing on earning as many votes as possible to win against Trump was deliberate. Corporate interests and neoliberalism are responsible for Democrats adoption of fascist policies and controlled opposition to the fascism of the Republican party. The Democratic Party has gone against the will of the vast majority of their constituents, gone against international law, and against the morality of opposing genocide.
There is no excuse.
Manufactured consent for genocide is completely unacceptable.
The rhetoric coming out of the White House, when it has been focused on peace or restraint, rather than continuous war, has been undercut at every turn by its actions. The constant supply of weapons — $17.9 billion of bullets, bombs, shells, and other military aid in the past year — has allowed Israel to keep waging its war on Gaza, and in recent weeks, expand that war to Lebanon and threaten to escalate its conflict with Iran. Despite documentation of U.S. weapons being used in probable war crimes, and credible allegations that Israel is committing genocide in its war on Gaza, the bombs have continued to flow.
::: spoiler March 2024
Trucks filled with humanitarian aid supplies sit in Egypt at the Rafah crossing into Gaza. Many human rights organizations accuse Israel of intentionally blocking aid. Later reports show the Biden administration was aware of the blockage of aid, which is a violation of international law, and continued to send military aid anyway.
On March 22, Congress approves $3.8 billion in military aid to Israel.
On March 25, the U.N. Security Council passed a resolution calling for a ceasefire for the month of Ramadan. The U.S. abstains from the vote, but its representative says that the U.S. supports “some of the critical objectives in this nonbinding resolution.”
“Nothing, nothing has changed about our policy. Nothing,” said Kirby about U.S. policy and support of Israel after the U.N. vote.
:::
::: spoiler May 2024
On May 6, Hamas accepted a ceasefire deal proposed by Egypt and Qatar. Israel began bombing Rafah, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians had sought refuge, with plans for a major ground operation.
On May 8, the U.S. halts a shipment of 2,000-pound and 500-pound bombs to Israel. Israel goes ahead with a more limited operation in Rafah for the rest of the month. The U.S. begins facilitating aid shipments into Gaza via a “humanitarian pier” constructed by the U.S. military on the beach in Gaza.
Prosecutors with the International Criminal Court, which oversees war crimes committed by nations, requested arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, along with Hamas leaders. The court alleges Israel targeted civilians with bombings and starvation.
On May 26, Israel strikes a refugee camp in Rafah — within a designated safe zone — killing 46 people, mostly civilians, including 23 women, children, and elderly Palestinians. Two days later, Israeli tanks bombard another refugee camp in an apparent safe zone, Al-Mawasi, just outside Rafah, killing 21 others. Among the dead are 12 women. It would be the first of three attacks at the refugee camp in the ensuing month.
The Biden administration rejects calls for further change in policy toward Israel
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::: spoiler June 2024
Over the course of the following week, Netanyahu says that Israel would not cease fighting until “the destruction” of Hamas’ military.
On June 8, Israeli forces use an area near the U.S. military’s “humanitarian pier” to launch an attack on the Nuseirat refugee camp. The Israeli soldiers kill at least 276 Palestinian people and retrieve four Israeli hostages.
Netanyahu repeatedly makes clear that Israel will not accept a proposal that involved a permanent ceasefire. Hamas asks for changes to the deal that would ensure that Israel observed a permanent ceasefire.
On June 21, Israel drops a series of bombs on Al-Mawasi refugee camp in southern Gaza, the second attack in as many months at the shelter in the humanitarian zone. The bombs drop around midnight as many lay asleep inside tents and makeshift shelters. At least 25 people, all civilians, are killed in the attack.
You've side stepped my key points, so I'll ask them directly.
Do you prefer Trump or the Dems?
Do you see any realistic alternative to the Dems and Trump?
By all means, send Biden to the ICC later, but the current situation cannot continue. No aid is getting in. This is about as bad as it gets. There are millions of Gazans at risk right now. Are you happy with this situation right now?
How do you outlaw a boycott? It's not an act, it's a non-act. An absence of a purchase. How do you distinguish boycott from just not buying something you don't want or need like any other item. Are we going to be required to put so much of our purchases toward Isreal now?
You outlaw a boycott by using violence against those who promote the boycott. It's not even anything new. Many states have already been doing this. Not to mention recent disappearances of anti-genocide activists.
Violence in service of hegemony is almost the entire purpose of the state.
the state wants to lock you up, figures out you don't drink coca cola, You're on trial for not buying Coca-Cola, or Nestle, or never tried Sabras hummus... straight to jail.
This is brilliant, you could have the gestasi inspecting everyone at the checkouts at a supermarket, and if you don't buy a Sodastream cartridge, you get disappeared.
(Sodastream is an Israeli company, and used to manufacture their machines in an industrial park in an Israeli settlement on the West Bank)
Get a nice bar-sized cylinder of CO2 (sometimes called beer gas) and a 15 dollar adapter. Get you that (nearly) guilt-free bubbly water by never sending them a cent for gas!
Not really any more, mostly though because other companies got into the business and aren't charging an arm and a leg for carbon dioxide. Other manufacturers also aren't pointlessly incompatible to each other.
Didn't CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn't compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)
Republicans have been undermining the constitution for decades. Now they straight up wipe their ass with it. The Goal has always been a christofacist dictatorship
No, Citizens United ruled that corporations are allowed to engage in elections just like citizens. It said nothing about money, protesting, or anything else.
Still not a good ruling for any reason, but not really relevant here.
My argument is that republicans are never consistent with their policies.
Spending isn't free speech. The government cannot compell speech. This doesn't not mean that the government can compell spending (I mean, it sorta can with taxes and fines, but it can't compell spending to select businesses, markets or groups.)
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
First of all, a law has already passed. This is just a bill
Second, it hasn't even made it to committee, let alone to a vote. But you can (assuming you are an American) Contact your representative and tell them what you think about this bill.
Hopefully someone makes a list of brands and companies that you aren't allowed to boycot according to usa republicans and then publishes that list online on a user friendly website. After all, without that information, people might be unknowingly breaking the law when they start a personal boycot.
How tf can u ban a boycott, how is that even possible let alone provable 🤦 Politics aside if I js don't like a brand that endorses or has ties to Israel would I then be subject to charges. How u trynna force people to buy from certain companies, what if I was bruk, would I be breaking the law? 🤡
Yep, how the government works. Keep spamming a bill that the general public doesn't want until it sticks. But then no such efforts to repeal it and we're stuck with the flaming piece of shit.
First you get people comfortable with defending genocide in another country, then they won't be so resistant when you start doing it in your own country.
I don't eat meat. BK has Impossible burgers and McD's doesn't. Of course they've been coming after synthetic meat too in some places. They're throwing a fit because a single-digit % of the population had the audacity to opt out of eating meat derived from animals.
I am not vegan or vegetarian, but I still prefer Impossible burgers (and Impossible chicken patties) and Beyond Steak bites. Not only does it at least significantly reduce my meat consumption, it is generally better than the real meat, since it doesn't have any weird bits and is lower in bad cholesterol. Also, it makes it so the meat I do eat can be sourced more ethically (buying direct from the rancher, hunting and fishing my own for subsistence, getting free range eggs especially from locals) instead of getting the final product and just ignoring what torture went into it.
Serious answer, that's not ever what would get prosecuted. What would get you prosecuted in your scenario is e.g. sending a memo to the network of malls you operate saying "do not renew or accept new leases from McDonalds", or to the accounts department of your company saying "do not accept any staff expense claim receipts from McDonalds".
(I'm not supporting the bill by the way, just answering your question at face value)
It's been a while since I dealt with my favourite maker of totally legit Diesel ECUs that absolutely have no cheat function built in, what are they up to now?
Hey big shoutout to all the Redditors and Lemmy guys who told me that we can have no restrictions on free speech because if we restrict Nazis they will restrict us if they ever gain power.
Welp, here ya go...like I told you...and many of you blocked and/or banned me for saying it. Ironic.
been my experience that that people saying "We have to protect the nazis" are either nazis, or nazis pretending to be their idea of librul to infiltrate,
Great question. Intention matters, so many countries focus on speech that can only be malicious, like incitement to violence in the UK or Nazi salutes in Germany.
People ready and willing to spread violent, harmful hate can be dealt with via the laws they violate. Assult, battey, stalking, theft, etc.
The subtle side is, as always, if your speech cannot persuade the (large) majority that the opposition speech is wrong, then to dismiss the opposition is to become the oppressing minority.
The bill got pulled. And even if it didn't it's such a blatant and egregious violation of 1A that even Trump's pet judges would have to shoot it down out of fear of the precedent it would set and what would happen if ever they lose power for any length of time.
That's the conversation I've been having with some people cheering on Trump's immigration moves. I've pointed out the machine the individual bricks seems to be building, and when they support that too because Trump will only use it on the "right sort of people" I point out that Trump won't be in power forever, and ask him what he'd think if someone like Harris or AOC had that same power. That's when they suddenly get it, because the idea that the same machinery could be brought against them is not something they consider.
The first question you should ask when considering "Should the government have this power?" is "If the people I oppose the very most had this power, what would they do with it?" If you're not OK with the answer to that, then the government shouldn't have that power.
I'm not a lawyer so I could be reading this wrong but this law doesn't apply directly to citizens, per se.
The law that it modifies basically makes it illegal for a company to contractually require you to boycott another company that you disagree with, but one that is allied toward the US.
For example, imagine you're the CEO of ACME and you want to do business with Aperture Science, Inc. Aperture can't, as a condition of you doing business with them, restrict you from working with Israeli companies.
That all being said, I do not trust this administration will use the law for it's intended purpose and will instead use it as a club to beat people with.
Thank you. I've been so confused seeing this bill sent around with people saying it's intended to punish any given individual for choosing to not buy from Israel. I could absolutely be wrong (I'm also not an attorney), but it definitely reads like you have to either be pressured or compensated by a foreign nation (or an IGO if this bill passes) to be impacted by this.
That said, your last point is completely fair...so maybe people are right to worry as though this will get used against them even if they're not boycotting in league with a foreign power. With the folks in this admin, maybe it will 🤷🏻♂️
I've been screaming this since the days of digg: no one reads bills. I do for this very reason. Once you get used to reading "Washington speak", you can get a general sense of what a bill is going to do and what it won't do.
Given the hype, it wouldn't surprise me if this was a false flag where the alt right is trying to tire us out by having yet another thing to worry about.
We can only do so much. I'm not saying stopping Israel isn't important. I am saying we need to pick and choose our battles. Of the things the Republicans are doing, it's nothing.
This is a cudgel to use against leftist activists when they are identified through social media skimming and illegal surveillance. The charge of antisemitic activity will be constructed parallel to their desire to brutalize them.
And they all get a stack of AIPAC cash to implement this too.
It's a good thing Russia gave half of a wakeup call to the rest of the free world to arm the fuck up 3 years ago. We know America can't be relied on for anything anymore.
Is that legal? It doesn't sound legal. I'm sure they could make it illegal for US government agencies to boycott Israel because that's at least partially a foreign policy decision, but private businesses? What are they gonna do, force you to buy Israeli goods?
Private weapons manufacturers make more weapons than should ever be needed.
Why? Your country gained its wealth by becoming the world's largest weapons manufacturer, making it the greatest financial beneficiary of WW2. That manufacturing infrastructure didn't just disappear overnight.
Large government subsidies to countries like Israel which aren't actually cash, rather they are purchases of these privately manufactured weapons using taxpayer dollars. These are given to Israel and other countries / entities in the world which perpetuate military conflict in order to keep feeding the machine.
There you have it. Production and consumption which keeps your GDP and GDP per capita growing without providing a meaningful benefit to humanity.
Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?
Can someone explain why Israel is so important to them? Aren’t these the same people who are antisemic? Additionally, how does supporting Israel make the us a Christian nation?
For a lot of evangelicals and orthodox jews, they believe the Third Temple must be built at Temple Mount for the Messiah to return/come. Christians are a death cult and it's part of their eschatology to work towards those ends to bring about the Second Coming and the rise of New Jerusalem/Zion.
In terms of realpolitik Israel is a strategic foothold in an geographically important area rich with resources and trade routes.
Note that plenty of Christians reject these attempts to bring on judgement day just as many Jews reject the forceful invasion of the Holy Land to bring on a promised Jewish state.
Abrahamic faith is pretty clear on the decision of when to call judgement day to be solely in the hands of God and noone except God knows.
Evangelical Christianity is a death cult predicated on Israel's existence and eventual destruction.
All those Christian "friends of Israel" long to see every Israeli dead. Because that means the end of the world. White Jesus comes back. A horn is blown. World War ending specifically in fire. Not a flood this time cuz God pinky swore not to.
And everyone except for 144,000 of the most insane Christians is damned to hellfire for all eternity. Jebus rebuilds heaven on Earth.
That's the whole story. From an Exvangelical who was raised in this snake-fuckingly crazy nonsense.
Lol, imagine someone attacks Israel with a nuke, triggers an entire nuclear armageddon, and the whole world is englufed in "fire and brimstone," and the crazy mother fuckers were right all along.
That is literally the plan. It's why Israel has nukes. Those open secret nukes everyone knows about that don't officially exist.
Edit - Its why we're so antagonistic towards Iran. The psychos want to bait Iran and Israel into full scale war hoping one of them will kick start the apocalypse.
John Hagee is still alive so probably. And that other one. Tall stringy fucker. Looks like an evil Mister Rogers in a suit. Charles Stanley I think his name is.
If they want every Israeli dead, then why are they trying to save Israel? Maybe a better question is, do they want the end of the world now or is it this something they want to look forward to?
Because it has to be destroyed the right way at the right time. Cuz "Prophesy" and shit. There's shit that needs to happen first. Like a big fancy temple has to be built.
If Israel was destroyed before that they'd have to start this whole colonial project over again.
Only accidentally Zionist. They don't actually believe that Jewish people have a right to Israel so much as they believe that Jewish people need to inhabit Israel to fulfill Christian prophecy.
US evangelicals are treating an entire ethno-religious group as means to their desired end. It's disgusting.
Probably that is a threat for anyone spreading boycott movement in social media. So if you post McDonald are shit, bad for the health and do not consume them, you are ok. If you post don't go to McDonald because they support a genocide by Israel, then it is another story.
Sorry, we checked your recent bank transactions and you haven't spent enough money at [Insert Corporation]. Please pay the $100 fine or serve one day at [Insert Corporation] as a free laborer.
They dont, they boycotting is aim at company that actively participate in the genocide. Microsoft Cloud and AI services for and other Software and Hardware companies for example. Companies that donate money to them or they have headquarter in illegal occupied land. And many others. The BDS movement for example provide a list of companies highlighted by the United Nations to be performing illegal activities in the west bank.
but it's both, both boycott Israel companies and products (like hummus illegally farmed in the West Bank. but also companies who participate and engage in Apartheid, like Coca cola that has bottling plants in the west bank as well. or companies that profit from their apartheid, like CAT, or Microsoft/google...
Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.
So it seems like if you decide not to buy a shirt made in Israel because the EU suggests a boycott, you go to jail and/or get fined. Clear violation of the 1st ammendment.
It's for harassment. Even shit lawsuits cost serious money to defend. Yeah, it's unwinnable, but but the company defending might choose to not publicly side with a boycott or engage in one, which is the goal of these apocalypse seeking lunatics.
Also, lawyers don't take civil rights cases anymore since the Supreme Court ruled the lawyer couldn't get paid out of government reparations to the victims. Constitutional violation cases take time and a shit load of money to prosecute, something most victims don't have.
There was a recent decision continuing this trend.
Even then that only works if they specificy that it's because of a boycott, they could refuse to do business because the other guy smelt like a vegetarian omelette MRE which would be a valid reason. Anti-boycott laws are pretty universally easy to get around since a boycott functions on the principal of "I'm not buying that" which is pretty hard to prove the reasoning to.
No, I know what I said. The naming scheme for military shit can be a bit weird but for the Vomellete in particular it's because they were planning on bringing back a ham and eggs MRE equivalent. They never got to it since the Vomellete was so fucking bad, it was so bad that stevemre1989 gagged which is impressive since he has eaten food from the 1800s.
it didn't really register that we're talking about military rations
i was talking more generally, vegetarian diet includes eggs and milk, so idk what else they might have added, maybe some old unused cheese from the cheese caves
Yeah. I worked for a US-headquartered multinational in Asia, and we had to do a whole training about how we had to be scrupulous in not doing anything that could be interpreted as a boycott of Israel otherwise the company would be breaking the law.
5 Democrats are cosponsors:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/867/all-info
Dear lord. Why are Dems getting involved in pushing fascism?
There have always been liberal collaborators to fascism, this isn't new.
Yes, which is why we should vote against democrats forever!!!
TRUMP 2028!!!
Edit: Y'All learned nothing from history.
German communist accelerationists went into the oven just like everyone else.
Who said all Democrats? These specific few are voting against us.
Lmao. Yep, but not the liberal collaborators. Convenient for them, too - not just because they didn't die but because they got rid of those pesky communists.
Same as it ever was
they dont care about the fascism aspect, they care that it guarantees them their seats, just like %90 of all the politicians.
The American government platform. Don't try to single out the Dems for this.
Idk, I think the dems have a bit more culpability than people want to admit since they aren't just committing the same war crimes as the republicans, but suppressing the opposition to it in their own party, too.
Not that republicans wouldn't do the same thing if any opposition existed within their own base to begin with, but democrats are doing it even as they know their base actively resents them for it. That says something extra about their culpability.
Maybe, but when they went too hard, he applied pressure. Trump offered to take over and help in the genocide (Middle East Riviera plan).
Democrats are not good, but unfortunately, those idiots are temporarily needed to dump out the fascists.
Politics in FPTP is a bit like a bus, and if you cannot get a bus where you need to go, get one in roughly the right direction.
The amount of "Genocide Joe" Lemmyers who helped cement genocide Trump are complicit in what is effectively a mass starvation. At least Biden tried to step in with supplies when Israel stopped last time.
Biden gave zero genuine pressure to end the genocide. Instead of implementing a weapons embargo, he sent tens of billions worth of weapons used to prolong the genocide.
One Year of Empty Rhetoric From the White House on Israel’s Wars
From the MEMO article:
Even the proposal to ethnically cleanse the entire population of Gaza, or 'empty Gaza of palesinians,' by removing them to neighboring countries, was first proposed by the Biden admin behind closed doors
When Israel went too hard on siege he did try to step in. Not enough, but the attempted but failed aid pier was far more than Trump has done or would do.
Also, he pressured and got a crossing reopened "Within hours of Mr Biden's call, Israel said it would open the Erez crossing in northern Gaza and the port of Ashdod in southern Israel to aid, and pledged to drastically improve security co-ordination with groups delivering assistance to Palestinians."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68773400
As I made clear, I'm not defending Biden or claiming he's good. Thousands have died and I fear if the situation doesn't change soon, I fear it could be a magnitude of 10 higher. Trump is showing zero signs of any pressure. If anything, he cheers Israel on. It absolutely disturbs me, that through resentment of Biden folks would rather see Trump stay in and have hundreds of thousands of more Gazans die through starvation.
I will say, those that keep propping Trump up are complicit in this. If starvation is happening and you don't want change, you want this situation.
The aid pier never delivered aid. Instead it delivered a clandestine military operation hidden inside aid trucks. Which of course is a war crime.
The "aid pier" was a smokescreen and only served for facilitating a war crime.
Source?
The first link mentions and puts into context everything you mention and much more. Tens to hundreds of thousands have died under Biden's watch alone, he is a committed Zionist. The actions were performative and used as a way to justify the ongoing material support for the genocide. You are defending Biden here, you even grossly minimized the death count, not to mention the total destruction of the educational, medical, and historical sites within Gaza.
Pro-palestinian advocates have been pointing this out for the entire duration of the genocide under the Biden admin because it has been clear that a change in foreign policy to a weapons embargo was critical to both end the ceasefire and significantly increase the chances of the Democratic Party to win against Trump. The party's decision to instead prioritize support for the genocide over focusing on earning as many votes as possible to win against Trump was deliberate. Corporate interests and neoliberalism are responsible for Democrats adoption of fascist policies and controlled opposition to the fascism of the Republican party. The Democratic Party has gone against the will of the vast majority of their constituents, gone against international law, and against the morality of opposing genocide.
There is no excuse.
Manufactured consent for genocide is completely unacceptable.
::: spoiler March 2024
Trucks filled with humanitarian aid supplies sit in Egypt at the Rafah crossing into Gaza. Many human rights organizations accuse Israel of intentionally blocking aid. Later reports show the Biden administration was aware of the blockage of aid, which is a violation of international law, and continued to send military aid anyway.
On March 22, Congress approves $3.8 billion in military aid to Israel.
On March 25, the U.N. Security Council passed a resolution calling for a ceasefire for the month of Ramadan. The U.S. abstains from the vote, but its representative says that the U.S. supports “some of the critical objectives in this nonbinding resolution.”
“Nothing, nothing has changed about our policy. Nothing,” said Kirby about U.S. policy and support of Israel after the U.N. vote.
:::
::: spoiler May 2024
On May 6, Hamas accepted a ceasefire deal proposed by Egypt and Qatar. Israel began bombing Rafah, where hundreds of thousands of Palestinians had sought refuge, with plans for a major ground operation.
On May 8, the U.S. halts a shipment of 2,000-pound and 500-pound bombs to Israel. Israel goes ahead with a more limited operation in Rafah for the rest of the month. The U.S. begins facilitating aid shipments into Gaza via a “humanitarian pier” constructed by the U.S. military on the beach in Gaza.
Prosecutors with the International Criminal Court, which oversees war crimes committed by nations, requested arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Defense Minister Yoav Gallant, along with Hamas leaders. The court alleges Israel targeted civilians with bombings and starvation.
On May 26, Israel strikes a refugee camp in Rafah — within a designated safe zone — killing 46 people, mostly civilians, including 23 women, children, and elderly Palestinians. Two days later, Israeli tanks bombard another refugee camp in an apparent safe zone, Al-Mawasi, just outside Rafah, killing 21 others. Among the dead are 12 women. It would be the first of three attacks at the refugee camp in the ensuing month.
The Biden administration rejects calls for further change in policy toward Israel
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::: spoiler June 2024
Over the course of the following week, Netanyahu says that Israel would not cease fighting until “the destruction” of Hamas’ military.
On June 8, Israeli forces use an area near the U.S. military’s “humanitarian pier” to launch an attack on the Nuseirat refugee camp. The Israeli soldiers kill at least 276 Palestinian people and retrieve four Israeli hostages.
Netanyahu repeatedly makes clear that Israel will not accept a proposal that involved a permanent ceasefire. Hamas asks for changes to the deal that would ensure that Israel observed a permanent ceasefire.
On June 21, Israel drops a series of bombs on Al-Mawasi refugee camp in southern Gaza, the second attack in as many months at the shelter in the humanitarian zone. The bombs drop around midnight as many lay asleep inside tents and makeshift shelters. At least 25 people, all civilians, are killed in the attack.
:::
You've side stepped my key points, so I'll ask them directly.
Do you prefer Trump or the Dems?
Do you see any realistic alternative to the Dems and Trump?
By all means, send Biden to the ICC later, but the current situation cannot continue. No aid is getting in. This is about as bad as it gets. There are millions of Gazans at risk right now. Are you happy with this situation right now?
Well this is 5 people. You cannot really compare these 5 with AOC for example.
The only way Trump goes is through Democrats right now. It's unfortunate, but unfortunately a fact.
I'm not defending Dems or think they are good, but it is the only realistic play right now.
Wer hat uns verraten…? Sozialdemokraten…
Are they considered Isreali products🤔
Yes. You will be required by law to purchase Josh Gottheimer.
Prime list of people to oust in the primaries
How do you outlaw a boycott? It's not an act, it's a non-act. An absence of a purchase. How do you distinguish boycott from just not buying something you don't want or need like any other item. Are we going to be required to put so much of our purchases toward Isreal now?
Ding ding ding.
This is how they "lawfully" throw "dissidents" into the gulag.
Remember...most of what Hitler did was technically legal and above-board. Because they controlled the laws and shaped them as they saw fit.
Wrong think will be punished
You outlaw a boycott by using violence against those who promote the boycott. It's not even anything new. Many states have already been doing this. Not to mention recent disappearances of anti-genocide activists.
Violence in service of hegemony is almost the entire purpose of the state.
the state wants to lock you up, figures out you don't drink coca cola, You're on trial for not buying Coca-Cola, or Nestle, or never tried Sabras hummus... straight to jail.
Back in the days the Spanish Inquisition would become suspicious of people who seemed to not eat pork.
In other words, yes, precisely, they're trying to sus out heretics. Don't want to be mistaken for one? Perform the rites publicly, then.
Not just show your papers, show your recent Israel approved consumer good purchases!
Twitter sued advertisers who said they were boycotting it, and it worked somehow…
probably using to target groups that are protesting against israel.
This is brilliant, you could have the gestasi inspecting everyone at the checkouts at a supermarket, and if you don't buy a Sodastream cartridge, you get disappeared.
(Sodastream is an Israeli company, and used to manufacture their machines in an industrial park in an Israeli settlement on the West Bank)
I didn't know that. Good thing I've been boycotting their cylinders for years.
Well fuck, I just got one, I just assumed they were a german company since they're so popular there
Same. But I switched to a (German) service that mails cylinders. https://sodabaer.de/
aarke
I got an Aarke instead because I liked the design, so now I just need to replace my current sodastream cartridge with an offbrand one...
Get a nice bar-sized cylinder of CO2 (sometimes called beer gas) and a 15 dollar adapter. Get you that (nearly) guilt-free bubbly water by never sending them a cent for gas!
Not really any more, mostly though because other companies got into the business and aren't charging an arm and a leg for carbon dioxide. Other manufacturers also aren't pointlessly incompatible to each other.
Sparkling water, of course, is still ridiculously popular over here, and carbonating at home is convenient. Then, though: Tap water + soda stream co2 is more expensive than store-brand bottled water.
Didn't CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn't compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)
Rich people spending money is free speech.
Anti-genocide activists not spending money is terrorism.
AKA the usual.
Republicans have been undermining the constitution for decades. Now they straight up wipe their ass with it. The Goal has always been a christofacist dictatorship
No, Citizens United ruled that corporations are allowed to engage in elections just like citizens. It said nothing about money, protesting, or anything else.
Still not a good ruling for any reason, but not really relevant here.
Wait, doesn't your argument support their bill?
They're agreeing with you; they are suggesting that convincing people of what to do with their money is infringing on their "speech."
My argument is that republicans are never consistent with their policies.
Spending isn't free speech. The government cannot compell speech. This doesn't not mean that the government can compell spending (I mean, it sorta can with taxes and fines, but it can't compell spending to select businesses, markets or groups.)
I agree with you but you're operating outside of case law and the entire sentiment is moot when arguing this particular case.
Is it saying it's illegal to "convince"(therefore not the consumer) or it's illegal to "participate" (meaning the consumer)
How is this to enforced. Is there to be a Israeli mandated amount of product that you would need to buy.
Vague laws can be abused easier.
"Please drink a verification can"
Omg!! This is how we get there, isnt it?! 😳
You will be expected to wear your Israeli pager at all times
It's already a law in huge chunks of the state.
https://www.newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colleges-illegal-bds-1895292
Oh you didn't buy a Soda Stream?
Believe it or not, straight to jail!
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
Because republicans care so much about laws they don't agree with.
Or parts of the religions they thump on about.
And the USSC has definitely ruled that money is equivalent to speech. So boycott activity is logically covered under this Amendment.
If this law passes, a lot of people are going to have a rough year or two until they can get a case all the way to the Supreme Court.
It will be too late by then the damage will have been done
First of all, a law has already passed. This is just a bill
Second, it hasn't even made it to committee, let alone to a vote. But you can (assuming you are an American) Contact your representative and tell them what you think about this bill.
Yeah trump and maga have been wiping their ass with that document for a while. I don’t think it’s a thing anymore
If you make the 1st Amendment illegal, the rest of the Constitution cannot be far behind.
if? people have already been blackbagged for their speech. this is just encoding something already in effect.
Hopefully someone makes a list of brands and companies that you aren't allowed to boycot according to usa republicans and then publishes that list online on a user friendly website. After all, without that information, people might be unknowingly breaking the law when they start a personal boycot.
Genius. Unfortunately, they will most likely target anti-genocide activist, check their phone for any BDS material and charge them with this.
It is not for the masses it is for the vocal once.
this, i just deleted my BDS apps, will have to rely on manually checking things with a vpn.
Sounds kinda DEI to me
It's DEI for "white" people from europe so it's ok.
How tf can u ban a boycott, how is that even possible let alone provable 🤦 Politics aside if I js don't like a brand that endorses or has ties to Israel would I then be subject to charges. How u trynna force people to buy from certain companies, what if I was bruk, would I be breaking the law? 🤡
This will probably be used to target protestors and organizers of political movements.
Yeah, the boycott itself can't reasonably be prosecuted. But it can be used to suppress discussion (e.g. organization, coordination) of said boycott.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
Excuse me I saw you drinking flat water where is your soda stream ice this one get this one
it will probably use to target protestors, and groups criticial of israel.
The bill got pulled!
For now. Let's see what happens when it's budget time again. They'll probably bury it in there because we live in hell.
Yep, how the government works. Keep spamming a bill that the general public doesn't want until it sticks. But then no such efforts to repeal it and we're stuck with the flaming piece of shit.
Good. Holy 💩
Fuck this shit, this is intentionally vague to be used as a cudgel
First you get people comfortable with defending genocide in another country, then they won't be so resistant when you start doing it in your own country.
They were russian astroturfs
Who is they?
How do I boycott Israel in the first place? Not booking my next vacation there? Do I get 20 years in prison for that?
https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide
Whatever the legal status of officially boycotting Isreal, there's still no law against just incidentally not doing business with the companies.
Before someone says they can't avoid some of these: OK, then boycott the other ones.
Whatever sand you have to throw, throw it in the gears of genocide. Don't just do nothing.
The Constitution says there's also no law against actively and loudly not doing business with the companies
It seems like theatre. How will you ever prove that I chose Burger King over McDonalds for political reasons?
I don't eat meat. BK has Impossible burgers and McD's doesn't. Of course they've been coming after synthetic meat too in some places. They're throwing a fit because a single-digit % of the population had the audacity to opt out of eating meat derived from animals.
I am not vegan or vegetarian, but I still prefer Impossible burgers (and Impossible chicken patties) and Beyond Steak bites. Not only does it at least significantly reduce my meat consumption, it is generally better than the real meat, since it doesn't have any weird bits and is lower in bad cholesterol. Also, it makes it so the meat I do eat can be sourced more ethically (buying direct from the rancher, hunting and fishing my own for subsistence, getting free range eggs especially from locals) instead of getting the final product and just ignoring what torture went into it.
Serious answer, that's not ever what would get prosecuted. What would get you prosecuted in your scenario is e.g. sending a memo to the network of malls you operate saying "do not renew or accept new leases from McDonalds", or to the accounts department of your company saying "do not accept any staff expense claim receipts from McDonalds".
(I'm not supporting the bill by the way, just answering your question at face value)
They make a surprising amount of things. I noticed a woodworking tool I have was made in Israel. Never expected that.
Well, I can think of at least one famous Jewish carpenter.
Nailed it!
You can cross that one off your list
For now; it'll be back in a few days.
A Bosch router bit
It's been a while since I dealt with my favourite maker of totally legit Diesel ECUs that absolutely have no cheat function built in, what are they up to now?
disoccupied.com
The best I have managed to do is not buying some hand tools from a company based there. I'm sure they are really missing that $100, lol.
Hey big shoutout to all the Redditors and Lemmy guys who told me that we can have no restrictions on free speech because if we restrict Nazis they will restrict us if they ever gain power.
Welp, here ya go...like I told you...and many of you blocked and/or banned me for saying it. Ironic.
5 bucks says the people who told you that were, in fact, nazis
Hard to say. They mostly seemed like college liberals still living at home
been my experience that that people saying "We have to protect the nazis" are either nazis, or nazis pretending to be their idea of librul to infiltrate,
I have a relevant cartoon that I cant post for some reason...will try again...
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The markdown for the pic is slightly incorrect and causing problems on my app so here's the fix:
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Is the problem the speech or the people tbat speak it?
Great question. Intention matters, so many countries focus on speech that can only be malicious, like incitement to violence in the UK or Nazi salutes in Germany.
People ready and willing to spread violent, harmful hate can be dealt with via the laws they violate. Assult, battey, stalking, theft, etc.
The subtle side is, as always, if your speech cannot persuade the (large) majority that the opposition speech is wrong, then to dismiss the opposition is to become the oppressing minority.
The bill got pulled. And even if it didn't it's such a blatant and egregious violation of 1A that even Trump's pet judges would have to shoot it down out of fear of the precedent it would set and what would happen if ever they lose power for any length of time.
That's the conversation I've been having with some people cheering on Trump's immigration moves. I've pointed out the machine the individual bricks seems to be building, and when they support that too because Trump will only use it on the "right sort of people" I point out that Trump won't be in power forever, and ask him what he'd think if someone like Harris or AOC had that same power. That's when they suddenly get it, because the idea that the same machinery could be brought against them is not something they consider.
The first question you should ask when considering "Should the government have this power?" is "If the people I oppose the very most had this power, what would they do with it?" If you're not OK with the answer to that, then the government shouldn't have that power.
i felt like the trolls on reddits are just RU stoking anger and division.
Here is the bill (it's like two pages)
I'm not a lawyer so I could be reading this wrong but this law doesn't apply directly to citizens, per se.
The law that it modifies basically makes it illegal for a company to contractually require you to boycott another company that you disagree with, but one that is allied toward the US.
For example, imagine you're the CEO of ACME and you want to do business with Aperture Science, Inc. Aperture can't, as a condition of you doing business with them, restrict you from working with Israeli companies.
That all being said, I do not trust this administration will use the law for it's intended purpose and will instead use it as a club to beat people with.
Thank you. I've been so confused seeing this bill sent around with people saying it's intended to punish any given individual for choosing to not buy from Israel. I could absolutely be wrong (I'm also not an attorney), but it definitely reads like you have to either be pressured or compensated by a foreign nation (or an IGO if this bill passes) to be impacted by this.
That said, your last point is completely fair...so maybe people are right to worry as though this will get used against them even if they're not boycotting in league with a foreign power. With the folks in this admin, maybe it will 🤷🏻♂️
I've been screaming this since the days of digg: no one reads bills. I do for this very reason. Once you get used to reading "Washington speak", you can get a general sense of what a bill is going to do and what it won't do.
Given the hype, it wouldn't surprise me if this was a false flag where the alt right is trying to tire us out by having yet another thing to worry about.
We can only do so much. I'm not saying stopping Israel isn't important. I am saying we need to pick and choose our battles. Of the things the Republicans are doing, it's nothing.
This is a cudgel to use against leftist activists when they are identified through social media skimming and illegal surveillance. The charge of antisemitic activity will be constructed parallel to their desire to brutalize them.
And they all get a stack of AIPAC cash to implement this too.
I guess raising awareness of products origin and why one should boycott becomes the issue.
Just ask all of the places that have already done this.
https://www.newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colleges-illegal-bds-1895292
America can't be taken seriously anymore.
It's a good thing Russia gave half of a wakeup call to the rest of the free world to arm the fuck up 3 years ago. We know America can't be relied on for anything anymore.
You remember that first amendment thing we used to have here?
Yeah... neither does our government
Well, if that isn't freedom of speech, I don't know what is. So much freedom, it oozes oil.
Is that legal? It doesn't sound legal. I'm sure they could make it illegal for US government agencies to boycott Israel because that's at least partially a foreign policy decision, but private businesses? What are they gonna do, force you to buy Israeli goods?
narrator: it didn't sound legal because it wasn't.
How to hack your GDP while ordinary people suffer
Why? Your country gained its wealth by becoming the world's largest weapons manufacturer, making it the greatest financial beneficiary of WW2. That manufacturing infrastructure didn't just disappear overnight.
There you have it. Production and consumption which keeps your GDP and GDP per capita growing without providing a meaningful benefit to humanity.
Any government that tells you what you can complain about
Is by definition a Totalerian government
Worse than that - they're trying to tell us what we can spend our money on.
Which according to the horse shit Citizens United ruling is free speech for corporations. But not the people in em I guess.
Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?
How do you enforce anti boycott, how do you force someone to spend their money?
Dont get me wrong Ill know they will try again, but wow.
If you’re an American paying taxes you can’t boycott Israel. It doesn’t even need to be a law.
Seems like they’re trying to turn boycott in to a dirty word.
Yes yes I know where my tax dollars go, thank you. Well, ok actually not entirely, but yes to fund the irl fucking evil empire.
But boycotts make me think of private citzens not buying a product, or from a store or provider, etc.
Incremental steps into the police state.
We are in a police state. This is more.
Nazi America
Brought to you by millions of fascist fucks, including your own family and friends.
Buy a gun.
The courts won't enforce this right, because of freedom of speech, right?
Freedom of what? Sounds like something communist to me /s
😆 I dunno why I thought this was so funny lmao.
My brain immediately saw the meme of the the blond woman "inquiring intensifies" Edit: Like this!
It's already law in a huge chunk of land controlled by the regime.
https://www.newsweek.com/pro-palestinian-protest-states-colleges-illegal-bds-1895292
Can someone explain why Israel is so important to them? Aren’t these the same people who are antisemic? Additionally, how does supporting Israel make the us a Christian nation?
For a lot of evangelicals and orthodox jews, they believe the Third Temple must be built at Temple Mount for the Messiah to return/come. Christians are a death cult and it's part of their eschatology to work towards those ends to bring about the Second Coming and the rise of New Jerusalem/Zion.
In terms of realpolitik Israel is a strategic foothold in an geographically important area rich with resources and trade routes.
Note that plenty of Christians reject these attempts to bring on judgement day just as many Jews reject the forceful invasion of the Holy Land to bring on a promised Jewish state.
Abrahamic faith is pretty clear on the decision of when to call judgement day to be solely in the hands of God and noone except God knows.
Evangelical Christianity is a death cult predicated on Israel's existence and eventual destruction.
All those Christian "friends of Israel" long to see every Israeli dead. Because that means the end of the world. White Jesus comes back. A horn is blown. World War ending specifically in fire. Not a flood this time cuz God pinky swore not to.
And everyone except for 144,000 of the most insane Christians is damned to hellfire for all eternity. Jebus rebuilds heaven on Earth.
That's the whole story. From an Exvangelical who was raised in this snake-fuckingly crazy nonsense.
Lol, imagine someone attacks Israel with a nuke, triggers an entire nuclear armageddon, and the whole world is englufed in "fire and brimstone," and the crazy mother fuckers were right all along.
That is literally the plan. It's why Israel has nukes. Those open secret nukes everyone knows about that don't officially exist.
Edit - Its why we're so antagonistic towards Iran. The psychos want to bait Iran and Israel into full scale war hoping one of them will kick start the apocalypse.
This sounds insane because it is insane.
It is also true. They don't even try to hide it. Do they still have a weekly show about it on TBN?
John Hagee is still alive so probably. And that other one. Tall stringy fucker. Looks like an evil Mister Rogers in a suit. Charles Stanley I think his name is.
If they want every Israeli dead, then why are they trying to save Israel? Maybe a better question is, do they want the end of the world now or is it this something they want to look forward to?
Because it has to be destroyed the right way at the right time. Cuz "Prophesy" and shit. There's shit that needs to happen first. Like a big fancy temple has to be built.
If Israel was destroyed before that they'd have to start this whole colonial project over again.
I.e. simultaneously zionist and antisemitic
Only accidentally Zionist. They don't actually believe that Jewish people have a right to Israel so much as they believe that Jewish people need to inhabit Israel to fulfill Christian prophecy.
US evangelicals are treating an entire ethno-religious group as means to their desired end. It's disgusting.
The American economy since WW2 has relied on funding and supplying armed conflict.
No other entity has supplied more justification for that end.
Evangelists odd profecies, but mostly lobbying. AIPAC.
Money, grifting, racism, indoctrination, etc... All the usual reasons that people would support fascism.
Plus heretics preaching this garbage to several religions.
https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/qanda-for-every-1-jewish-zionist-there-are-30-christian-zionists-and-netanyahu-exploits-this-15656249
Well, we now know what death cult is behind the misery of literally the entire world.
Irony: Nazis are teaching the rest of us who hate Nazis how to hate the Jews
Screaming Nazi at everyone who calls you out, won't work forever. You are DONE.
Not sure what or who you are referring to but I am not done
How tf do you ban boycotts? What if I just don't want to consoom all the time?
Probably that is a threat for anyone spreading boycott movement in social media. So if you post McDonald are shit, bad for the health and do not consume them, you are ok. If you post don't go to McDonald because they support a genocide by Israel, then it is another story.
And so the fear begins. Its a first step.
Sorry, we checked your recent bank transactions and you haven't spent enough money at [Insert Corporation]. Please pay the $100 fine or serve one day at [Insert Corporation] as a free laborer.
Gosh I wonder how the democrats will vote on this.
What goods or services does Israel provide that we're "boycotting "
Apparently we import a ton of legislation.
And also, apparently, Signal forks with security backdoors put in by former Israeli intelligence officers.
They dont, they boycotting is aim at company that actively participate in the genocide. Microsoft Cloud and AI services for and other Software and Hardware companies for example. Companies that donate money to them or they have headquarter in illegal occupied land. And many others. The BDS movement for example provide a list of companies highlighted by the United Nations to be performing illegal activities in the west bank.
(not to be pedantic)
but it's both, both boycott Israel companies and products (like hummus illegally farmed in the West Bank. but also companies who participate and engage in Apartheid, like Coca cola that has bottling plants in the west bank as well. or companies that profit from their apartheid, like CAT, or Microsoft/google...
Yeah well they can't make people buy that shit
Surveillance, military weaponry against civilians, racism, etc.
Also phony "israeli" hummus.
Aren't we exporting that? Like always?
Law is summarized as:
Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.
So it seems like if you decide not to buy a shirt made in Israel because the EU suggests a boycott, you go to jail and/or get fined. Clear violation of the 1st ammendment.
Practically, how do you prosecute someone for not voluntarily consuming a good or service?
I'm guessing you can't but this might be aimed at businesses where there could be memos maybe?
It's for harassment. Even shit lawsuits cost serious money to defend. Yeah, it's unwinnable, but but the company defending might choose to not publicly side with a boycott or engage in one, which is the goal of these apocalypse seeking lunatics.
Also, lawyers don't take civil rights cases anymore since the Supreme Court ruled the lawyer couldn't get paid out of government reparations to the victims. Constitutional violation cases take time and a shit load of money to prosecute, something most victims don't have.
There was a recent decision continuing this trend.
https://studentbriefs.law.gwu.edu/crcl/2024/11/11/the-importance-of-attorneys-fees-in-civil-rights-cases-a-look-at-lackey-v-stinnie/
Even then that only works if they specificy that it's because of a boycott, they could refuse to do business because the other guy smelt like a vegetarian omelette MRE which would be a valid reason. Anti-boycott laws are pretty universally easy to get around since a boycott functions on the principal of "I'm not buying that" which is pretty hard to prove the reasoning to.
fyi a vegetarian omlette is just an omlette, you're probably thinking vegan, also yeah vegans are so annoying for randomly bringing it up huh
No, I know what I said. The naming scheme for military shit can be a bit weird but for the Vomellete in particular it's because they were planning on bringing back a ham and eggs MRE equivalent. They never got to it since the Vomellete was so fucking bad, it was so bad that stevemre1989 gagged which is impressive since he has eaten food from the 1800s.
it didn't really register that we're talking about military rations
i was talking more generally, vegetarian diet includes eggs and milk, so idk what else they might have added, maybe some old unused cheese from the cheese caves
I always thought the Israeli would destroy the US is some fashion
I'm going to guess that they're trying to make it seem like boycotts are a serious threat. It's a start but not enough.
Don't worry guys, this will surely create blowback next election and a liberal can be back in charge
No no. The "liberal" won't be liberal enough. Gotta wait for the right type of liberal before we vote against Nazi.
/sarcasm
It really is too early to be gritting my teeth man.
Maybe if they're alpha and lose their woke reputation they won't need those crazies who are demanding them to do something 'meaningful'
Gotta wait for another nazi who's liberal enough.
Do y'all want genocide? Or do you want liberal genocide? Remember, if you don't vote for genocide, then the genocide is your fault.
Isn't there already an anti boycott law on the books?
Yeah. I worked for a US-headquartered multinational in Asia, and we had to do a whole training about how we had to be scrupulous in not doing anything that could be interpreted as a boycott of Israel otherwise the company would be breaking the law.
This will go down in flames.
Lets wait and see what percentage of democrats will vote yes
Republicans do this shit because it makes people vote against Democrats
Pure win for Republicans.
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