The Isaiah usage is from Hebrew הֵילֵל בֶּן־שָׁחַר Hēlēl ben Shāḥar, "bright son of the dawn" or "bright son of the [Canaanite] god Shāḥar'" - the Greek and subsequent Latin translations meaning "light-bearer" or "morning star" should be taken with a grain of salt.
The Revelations usage is from Greek ὁ ἀστὴρ ὁ λαμπρός, ὁ πρωϊνός o astír o lamprós, o proïnós, "the bright and morning star".
I'm not aware of any material conceptual link between the two. They were written nearly a millennium apart, so there's plenty of cultural shift and difference in linguistic context.
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give this testimony to you for the churches. I am the root and descendent of David, **the bright morning star**.” - Revelation 22:16
My next D&D campaign is going to have a character named Mendacious in charge of a prominent faction. Language nerds will know he's a traitor right off the bat
I can't remember what radio program it was but some language researchers were talking about a survey they did of how pretty (I can't remember if if was specifically medical) words are and they mentioned that a lot of people find the word Chlamydia very pretty
Would anyone willingly choose Al for a name (short for aluminum). Steel, or Tin is maybe cool, but the nickname options for like Titanium are pretty bad.
The fact that Bismuth is a gem implies that there are other metals, and I wanna meet Tungsten
Also on the topic of gems, that's a goldmine (so to speak) for this thread. Rutile, Amethyst, Zirconia, Phosphophyllite, Cinnabar, Padparadscha, Bort, etc
Tbh, if I could give my hypothetical child a value, it would be prudence. That’s just reasonableness, unrelated to prudishness. Iirc chastity meant something like humility to people in the 17th and 18th century, which is not something I would want to name a child today, but it’s less creepy than the modern meaning at least.
That’s the definition of a good pet name: one you like but wouldn’t want to saddle a human with. Please also note that you don’t want to call every name around your neighborhood in the event of an escape, and your vet will judge you if you call your dog something horrible, but at least you’re the only one the name reflects poorly on.
And it's also versatile regarding variations. Macadamien if we stick close to "real" names, Macadamio if we get a bit more creative, or Macadamius/Macadamias if shit gets really freaky.
True story. Went to middle school with a girl who had an American mother and a Vietnamese father. His English was passable, but he was far from fluent. He wanted to give his daughter a pretty English word that he liked the sound of: Diarrhea.
Their last name was Ng. Her name would have literally been "Diarrhea-Ing"
Fortunately, her mother put a stop to that and "Stephanie" was forever thankful.
If instead of ignoring meaning, we ignored cultural context, Lucifer is a great one. Sounds nice, means light bringer.
The cultural context on this is weird, because it's even used for Jesus in the book of Revelation.
Do you have a source for that? I'm curious.
Revelation 22:16
Wikipedia has a very thorough write-up on Lucifer as a name in the Bible, though it doesn't directly mention the Revelations chapter.
It's worth noting three things:
“I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give this testimony to you for the churches. I am the root and descendent of David, **the bright morning star**.” - Revelation 22:16
Luci as a nickname, of course
Chlamydia
Sounds like one of those gothic names that doesn’t fit the woman until she’s around 60. Aunt Chlamydia, or something.
Aunt Chlamydia and her room-mate Auntie Biotic
Oh my god, they were ROOMMATES!
Toxic Yuri energy
Oubliette
I forget what this is.
Don't worry, we'll throw you into a doorless, windowless room that's only accessible by a hatch in the top until you remember how to look it up
Tsunami
Cappuccino
Fellatia
Actually had someone suggest this ; and had to explain it
Also vagina.
This also made me think of the love interest from Saul of the Mole Men named Fallopia
Latrine.
It’s better than Shithouse.
E: here
Outhouse could be a surname
I think Mutiny, Heresy, and Larceny would work.
Omg you’re right these would be cute names. Especially Larceny
Cellardoor
Beautiful.
Didn't your dad, like, stab your mom?
Isis was a pretty name
My next D&D campaign is going to have a character named Mendacious in charge of a prominent faction. Language nerds will know he's a traitor right off the bat
Chlamydia
Chlamydia
"My daughter has been just itching to meet you!"
I can't remember what radio program it was but some language researchers were talking about a survey they did of how pretty (I can't remember if if was specifically medical) words are and they mentioned that a lot of people find the word Chlamydia very pretty
Most metals work pretty well
That's some crazy pronunciation if those two sound similar.
With how many trans women name themselves after gemstones, more trans men should name themselves after metals
Would anyone willingly choose Al for a name (short for aluminum). Steel, or Tin is maybe cool, but the nickname options for like Titanium are pretty bad.
paul simon?
Touché
There's still some pretty good options. Titus, Titan, Ty, Ti (Tee I).
Stannum sounds okay-ish too
That would be pretty metal
Cobalt would be a pretty sick name.
Hi I'm Wolfram, last time we met I was Jane....
I swear, if one of y'all says some silly-ass name...
Steven Universe...
The fact that Bismuth is a gem implies that there are other metals, and I wanna meet Tungsten
Also on the topic of gems, that's a goldmine (so to speak) for this thread. Rutile, Amethyst, Zirconia, Phosphophyllite, Cinnabar, Padparadscha, Bort, etc
she's massive.
Tiny! but massive.
Diarrhea?
Heheh, heh, heh.
Always hoped those two would make a cameo in Daria.
Cha cha cha!
Omelette du fromage
Dee dee would approve
Is that all you can say!?
Nicole
you're going to have to explain this
Malaria
Ebola
“This is my daughter Flu”
Malaria is already very similar to Valeria.
Melanoma
That's a couple of characters from Elden Ring and also the current First Lady, right?
Figuratively she definitely counts as that.
Felony
Eula.
this is a real name.
Oh, wow, I did not realize that!
I wonder if they agreed to it?
Labia sounds like a nice name. Though more for a country than a person.
Forgive me.
I too want a home right between east and west labian crests
I have bad news if you’re hoping for visitors…
Sealabia?
It's even got its own song.
Omelette is a good name for a cat
Syphilis
Severus Snape's little brother, Syphilis Snape.
Heroin
Tbh. Being named a hero would be dope.
Vendetta
Chasity is an existing creepy one.
Prudence
Goodfaith
Temperance
Obedience
Sexwon't
I have met multiple people called Prudence
I've at least heard of Temperance as a name, too.
Yes, my point is they are weird things to name a baby because of what they mean.
Those two stand out because they're actual names. Have any of the others been used as names before?
Pretty sure Goodfaith was used in the past. The last 2 are a Simpsons reference.
Ah, surprised I missed it, then!
Tbh, if I could give my hypothetical child a value, it would be prudence. That’s just reasonableness, unrelated to prudishness. Iirc chastity meant something like humility to people in the 17th and 18th century, which is not something I would want to name a child today, but it’s less creepy than the modern meaning at least.
Chasity != chastity
ITT people just listing good pet names lol
A lot of pets are going to be named after STDs in that case.
Yeah this is my lizard Gonorrhea. She's the cutest
Well better than Venu Mousse 😂 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sFv97ICWP0A
That’s the definition of a good pet name: one you like but wouldn’t want to saddle a human with. Please also note that you don’t want to call every name around your neighborhood in the event of an escape, and your vet will judge you if you call your dog something horrible, but at least you’re the only one the name reflects poorly on.
Anomaly
Listeria.
Listerine
Violence, especially if said in a french accent. Also, Malaria and Ebola for twins.
Valencia hits close. Or Violeta.
Filet Mignon
Honestly, Seven isn't a bad sounding name.
Seven of Nine is the real deal
The borge just want to be cylond
It's like Sven but you're uncomfortable with having the v right after the s
Vagina.
It's just Regina with Va instead of Re.
Bidet
catastrophe
As a cat's name
Listerine.
Listerine is already named after Joseph Lister
What about Glycerine?
Sarcophagus
Listeria
hmmm
Rita Lee is one of the most important rock artists of Brazil. Not sure that was her name as baby too.
wooow, til! looked her up too!
Morticia is the name of my father's dog.
I never liked the name but Morticia is a good girl and I love her.
awww~ good doggo deserves all the love!
Incontinentia
Incontinentia… Incontinentia Buttocks.
Cashew
In a similar vein, Macadamia. So many good nickname opportunities.
Mac, Dame, Cady, Mia, Addy
Holy shit that's one versatile name
Or Maca, Maci, McDamia, ...
And it's also versatile regarding variations. Macadamien if we stick close to "real" names, Macadamio if we get a bit more creative, or Macadamius/Macadamias if shit gets really freaky.
I think I just really like the "Maca" sound :D
Filbert
Terabithia
Gonorrhea 🥰
diarrhea
….. cha cha cha
Vulva for sure.
Mulva?
Gipple? Loleola?
Larceny
Chlamydia
Odette is a good alternative for the name Omelette
True story. Went to middle school with a girl who had an American mother and a Vietnamese father. His English was passable, but he was far from fluent. He wanted to give his daughter a pretty English word that he liked the sound of: Diarrhea.
Their last name was Ng. Her name would have literally been "Diarrhea-Ing"
Fortunately, her mother put a stop to that and "Stephanie" was forever thankful.
Lmao, the comments are like a Key & Peele skit.
My answer: Asbestos
I'm trying asbestos i can!
Incest
Tangerine
Senility.
Tussy.
I once met a "Candida". Candida is some kind of yeast and causes fungal infections 🦠
I know a Candida!
It's actually surprisingly a relatively common uncommon name. Crops up a lot in certain Catholic communities as it's Latin for "white".
Xanax
I'm kinda surprised Elon didn't name Vivian that.
Keta Mine Musk, or just Keta Musk would be a better fit for Elon IMO
Edit: I hope he's not secretly on Lemmy, I don't want to give him ideas to ruin the lives of his kids even more.
Malodorous
Glacier
Madison - son of Matthew.
Much more active than his Russian cousin, Madisoff
Ephebophilia, ephie for short🤣💀😵💫
Oof...
I do not want that in my google search history.
Too late. You’ve taken a ride on the intellectual equivalent of the lolita express.
Nuke/Nukas
Malaria
Treblinka?
Jejunum
Lyssa sounds cute.
My cat is named Lyssa :) She is a goober
Cute
i want touch
I can assure you she is as soft as she looks.
What does that mean
lyssavirus is what causes rabies. there's no cure once symptoms start and you die a horrible, painful death.
That is very not cute
Goddess of mad rage, frenzy, fury and rabies. Sounds like everyone's crazy ex.
Gregarious
Hol up we may have something here
Titty
There's a character called Titty in Arthur Ransome's "Swallows and Amazons". The BBC changed her name to Kitty for the TV adaptation.
Pedo
Bort
Nausea
Malaena
Ovary
Shithead
Lou Gehrig.
Radiate
Melena. Edema.
Stepsis
Adolf
That is a name by itself already
Is it though? It certainly was.
It used to be pretty common but it went severely out of fashion
Fentanyl
https://youtu.be/sGIr6sEDGg4
Paraphilia
Repugnancia
Salt Peter
Merkin
Sativa Indica
Pretty sure that's completely acceptable in parts of northern California (source: born and raised in northern California).
math
Perinea
In Quebec French, this has the exact same pronunciation than "Homme Laitte" which means Ugly Man.
Triskaidekaphobia
Anthrax-ia
(ref youtube/jTsD-ecGtts, or even better youtube/vq0RzhgLA3k)
removed
Oranjello and Lemonjello
Karen
Blue Waffaletta
Bed (à la Ben)
Mullet
Omelette survived the abortion... somehow
You need to break some eggs to... You know
It's the scrambling of the eggs that hurts the baby.
Pooper
Dicksucker
Stankass