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Elon Musk suddenly doesn’t want credit for disastrous DOGE cuts

Summary

Elon Musk is distancing himself from sweeping federal job cuts linked to DOGE, blaming agency heads—not DOGE—responsible for mass layoffs, including the announced 70,000 job cut at Veterans Affairs.

Despite claiming DOGE’s role as merely advisory, Musk admitted to mistakes in private meetings with GOP lawmakers and pledged to correct them.

Some cuts have already been reversed, with a Trump administration memo clarifying agencies are not required to fire probationary employees (new hires).

Elon Musk suddenly doesn’t want credit for disastrous DOGE cutshttps://newrepublic.com/post/192415/elon-musk-warns-republicans-doge-job-cutsOpen linkView original on lemmy.world
FuglyDuckreply
lemmy.world

He’s so doped up on ketamine that he can’t even get the order right

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His bloodshot eyes is telling of his ketamine, cocaine and alcohol usage

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lemmy.world

The buck stops over there, with that other guy....

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lemmy.world

Too fucking bad, shitstick. When the ship sinks I hope he's chained to the fucking mast.

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pawb.social

Someone should tell Trump that he can just confiscate all of Musk's assets at any time and instantly become the richest man in the world.

(The truth of this statement is not relevant to whether Trump should be told this.)

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gamerreply
lemm.ee

he has immunity from criminal prosecution, and it could be claimed that Elon (an illegal immigrant) has assets that can be used to help pay off the national debt.

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slrpnk.net

The Cheeto could straight up shoot him dead in the oval office, then alter Elon's last will and testament live on TV and nobody could do jack shit about it.

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He should do it on 5th avenue. With TV crews present. Make it great television.

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lemm.ee

Bro mistook a bunch of Russian bots praising him in his echo chamber as real people.

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lemmy.world

Elon Musk’s boards and shareholders don’t want Musk having credit for Musk’s involvement with Disastrous DOGE Cuts. Elon wouldn’t have been on a stage with a chainsaw if Elon didn’t want credit.

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proudblondreply
lemmy.world

No no, he wanted credit but now it makes him look bad so he’s pretending he never wanted it. But we all know the truth.

You’re probably right about the boards and shareholders though. Assuming they even think about us at all.

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lemmy.world

As someone who spent a lot of time supporting boards, they are only thinking of themselves and the damage to their brands and stock price and compensation. Which, means that efforts to boycott said brands is causing them to think about us in ways that they don’t like to think about us.

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gruereply
lemmy.world

So what I'm hearing is, vandalizing Cybertrucks is effective.

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lol…i meant the efforts of not buying certain brands. but, sometimes throwing some tea in the harbor gets people’s attention too.

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He should blame on vice president Trump, since he's allowing it to happen

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lemm.ee

This is because Trump slipped up at his address to Congress and called Musk the head of the agency when he's legally not supposed to be. Now they're just playing the game of zero integrity and trying to twist things around to pretend that he's not the one making all the decisions because it's illegal and lawmakers picked up on Trump's slip up.

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mkwtreply
lemmy.world

It's not just lawmakers. There's a bunch of lawsuits trying to use the federal courts to figure out:

  • What is DOGE in the federal government?
  • What is the nature of the "DOGE Temporary Organisation?"
  • Who is in charge of DOGE? (Definitely not Musk, officially...)
  • Why can DOGE make all these consequential personnel decisions up and down the federal government?

These are all things that have been shrouded in secrecy, obfuscation, and contradiction. Because the truth is that the real answers are not legally sound. The fact that these people are scared to say the real truth is a good sign, because it means they still have some fear of the courts and institutions. Those institutions still have some power to mess up the plan.

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lemmy.world

Time for stage two of the plan: shift the blame to the young nobody scapegoats.

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lemmy.world

Man, fuck this guy. 100000% all him. You don't get to distance yourself from this when you're the one holding the bloody knife. Fuck everything this guy does. Every single day this guy needs to be reminded of how much of a fuck up he is.

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prolereply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

The world would instantly become a much better place if he killed himself right now

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PunnyNamereply
lemmy.world

We really need to stop with the threats. It's not helping.

We need to start chopping off heads ASAP.

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Death is loss of information, so executions are unacceptable. Except when you can't convict and jail.

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Embargoreply
lemm.ee

Ah, our Lord and saviour... The guillotine.

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I couldn't figure out what this meant and was going to ask, until I scrolled up past the picture I clearly just scrolled by without looking at.

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lemm.ee

If you were the richest person in the entire world, by a huge margin!!! Would you start working in the government and have tons of responsibilities? Or would you retire and live the life you’ve dreamed of?

This guy is insane.

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

I agree with the sentiment, except that it's much more for ours.

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spooky2092reply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

This guy is insane.

Pretty sure he's got "a" personality disorder that makes him crave being in the spotlight, and the dude isn't smart or socially aware enough to understand just how little the dude knows. Leading him to doing more and more stupid shit to stay in the spotlight and scrambling to unfuck himself after the fact. On some level, it would be funny how he's been tripping over his dick and failing upward his whole life. Ya know, if he weren't currently destroying the country and all that.

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And don't forget the army of enabling and validating mouthbreathers who buy that he's a genius, when he's really a fraud at every level. If it wasn't for Daddy's Money, he'd be a stereotypical stoner who works part time at some low wage job only to spend most of his time sucking at gaming.

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Would you start working in the government and have tons of responsibilities?

Your confusion is that you think Elon could possibly feel responsibility. He gets more free money and all the access he could ever want. He gets power to bend other countries to his will.

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We recognize that if someone just wants to consume an infinite amount of alcohol then they have an addiction. We recognize addictions to food, and sex, and shopping.

But we worship money so much that we’ve completely failed to recognize that you can be addicted to money, too. You can be so obsessed with it that you hurt people around you, that you damage your community, and want to consume vastly more than you need. In the case of billionaires, their addiction has caused them to accumulate so much money that it’s destroying the global economy, and it’s still not enough.

We’re like an irresponsible bartender, serving them more and more regardless of the damage. It’s time to cut these people off. Once you’ve got a billion, you’ve had enough. Go home.

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He must have committed some truly heinous crimes so now he has to amass power to protect himself.

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lemmy.world

Musk privately acknowledged that he’d made some massive missteps, and that he “can’t bat a thousand all the time,”

You got rid of all the gear for your team, you're not batting at all wtf

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feddit.uk

He's a complete cunt of a human. Utterly deplorable gobshite who thinks he's god's gift.

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takedareply
lemm.ee

The fact that he started piggyback his kid after Luigi, shows best what kind of psychopath he is.

A normal father would be willing to sacrifice his life for his kids, the Twitter guy is using his kid as a shield.

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lemmy.world

He's said he's scared for his life. I think that's reasonable given the amount of people he's pissing off. It's only a matter of time...

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demizeronereply
lemmy.world

This is why that fucking creep uses his son as a prop and headshot shield.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

Remember he ditched his human shield on stage

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No he didn't, don't spread misinformation. He's a piece of shit just using his kid as a meat shield, but in the actual clip he just walked a few steps and the kid ran a different way but as soon as he noticed he went to go get him.

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lemmy.world

He's just paranoid. However the minorities that are at the receiving end of his racist hate speech, are justified to fear for their lives.

One a pampered and spoiled trustfund brat fallen into drug induced paranoid hysteria. The other are millions of people he is defaming and scapegoating for his and his friends destruction of the country.....who are actually in danger because the hatespeech on x and elswhere is encouraging violence against them.

Stop being paranoid melon husk.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

Does ketamine cause paranoia or it's the cocaine usage

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Raiderkevreply
lemmy.world

Exactly. He's fucked over countless veterans with military training and most likely a shitload of guns and ammo. Good fuckin luck bud .

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I'm just counting the days and hoping I'll open the news one day to see a front page story that makes me super happy

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Wilcoreply

Seen that Lemmy section "Is Elon Musk Still Alive"? Heh

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Yeah, considering he paid for a role in a fascist administration that he pushed in a fascist direction and bought a propaganda outlet for he should be afraid for his life. He's basically set himself up as a fall guy for a reconstruction government, especially if Trump keels over first.

Franco's life was under threat until the great assassin of time finally came for him. At which point his government fell.

And I don't feel sorry for him because I'm over here just living my life and he's trying to get people to hurt me and people like me instead

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lemm.ee

Hard to distance yourself from something so massive

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lemmy.world

Because efficiancy never was the goal. "DOGE" is just a knock-off of Yarvin's "RAGE" (Retire All Government Employees), likely done to both stroke Muskrat's ego, and to obfuscate Yarvin from the "normies".

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lemmy.world

There's more to it. To get that rich you need to make roulette level bets with money most of us will never have. For every Musk you have plenty of people born with similar amounts of money who either lived a normal life or made a bad bet. To a certain degree you have to be a bit daft to make these bets at all. If a reasonable investment strategy means you get a comfortable life and a bold one where you dedicste your life to it means you get to buy governments, then you have to be stupid and broken to take the latter.

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That's because you think of money and power as tools to live your life. They think of it as what percentage of the total they possess. They would gladly give life changing money to ensure they can decide how you live your life

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

It just occurred to me that Trump might be Ellen Pao-ing Musk. He knows the tariffs and mass layoffs and deportations are going to crash the economy. He needs a fall guy when it happens.

Do all your unpopular, disastrous policies with an unpopular person standing in front of you, then blame everything on that person and send them packing.

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lemmy.world

Occam's razor would suggest they are both just that stupid. He has even more scrutiny for doing the same kind of illegal things he was doing behind the scenes at Twitter. Now, he has to deal with unions and contracts.

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lol…for our fellow humans, yes, of course. for two with such history of malfeasance, no. They are both stupid, and acting in malice.

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ShadowRamreply
fedia.io

As if Trump is smart enough to plan ahead something like that .. LOL

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I picture him getting a frantic call from the McDonald’s CEO with each new headline, explaining to him how this new stupid thing may affect his ability to get his favorite food. Trump is then forced to concede and reverse his latest stupid idea so he can continue getting his fix.

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gamerreply

Ellen Pao-ing

Damn, it really says something about the demographic of Lemmy that nobody in your replies asked what this means.

(I also was on reddit ~10(?) years ago during this one particular controversy)

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stardustreply
lemmy.ca

Who doesn't associate elon with donald though? They are like the more closely tied political duo in the world where every action is seen as one.

For Ellen Pao to work one of them would have had to remain relatively unknown and forgettable.

If anyone is going to benefit from the Ellen Pao it's people like peter thiel who are in the background while the loud duo is drawing all the attention and credit to themselves.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

Vance is the 3 wheel in this weird throuple

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stardustreply
lemmy.ca

Yeah he blew his opportunity to take advantage of the other two playing the role of Ellen Pao by removing all doubt that he is the same by ramping the vocal participation and drawing increased publicity.

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Yeah he needed to play the moderate. Instead the dumbass yelled at Zelinsky and picked a fight with the pope over catholic theology.

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Match!!reply
pawb.social

i don't think trump knows this is the plan, but it is the plan. it's very convenient having a billionaire whose visa can be revoked

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Supposedly he was naturalized in 2002. He's not here on a visa.

I mean, Trump now apparently can do whatever now, so I guess he could just deport him. But not legally or by revoking a visa.

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More like other way around, musk has trump wrapped around his finger at the moment

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lemmy.zip

The billionaire bureaucrat has claimed this defense to his organization’s cost-cutting measures before, saying that DOGE simply makes recommendations for cuts to agency heads, and then it’s up to those heads to execute them.

"It's not MY fault they did what I told them to do!"

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Its not just that but they fired multiple agency heads for not obeying his orders. Its farcical when he's choosing the agency heads

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lemmy.world

This asshole is treating these jobs like he treated Twitter. Fire everyone, see what breaks, then hire those people back. Real efficient there! Let's not actually review processes and jobs to see if there are overlaps anywhere. Just get rid of everyone and see what grinds to a halt or is really unpopular with people.

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Kissakireply
lemm.ee

I'm pretty sure he did not "hire those [Twitter] people back". I would be surprised if the moderation team were even close to the same size as before.

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That wasn't one of the things that broke, from his perspective. Twisting the narrative via activist mods was always the goal. He did hire a bunch of the engineers back when the site actually stopped working, because then it couldn't distribute his bullshit propaganda.

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feddit.nl

Elon Musk is saving the US money in the same way that not paying your mortgage saves money. The real question to ask is not "how much are we spending on X" but "Are the benefits we receive for paying for X worth it?" No surprise, that deeper analysis is NOT being done because fans of the right are just out for blood in the form of cancelled government programs. After all, why not? Trump has told them for years now that the government lies, that every single program is flush with waste and so on. They are basically getting what they asked for, except they never considered the deeper effects. This is why the right wants uneducated masses. If they aren't using critical thinking skills, they're perfect supporters.

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Lemminaryreply
lemmy.world

I think the reason for the spending cuts is so they can justify a massive tax cut for the rich. They will be essentially paying nothing, but your pleb taxes will go up and your pleb services canceled in the name of plutocratic profit.

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For sure. Like usual, he's not motivated by just a pure hate for government programs. As always, it's a grift. Look at the $TRUMP crypto project. He doesn't feel bad fleecing his biggest fans. And why should he? They will never figure it out. They will just blame their lack of money on Biden or something.

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Musk admitted to mistakes in private meetings with GOP lawmakers and pledged to correct them

Please no. I'm not sure the world's ready for more of this ass "fixing" things.

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Lit
lemmy.world

He should be fired from DOGE for giving bad advice and drawing a high salary. Bloody incompetent, such a simple job and he can't even do it.

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He should be fired drawn and quartered on live national television for crimes against humanity and the Republic.

Ftfy

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FIRED FROM WHAT

For fuck sake I feel like I've lost my goddamn mind. They just let him do this shit.

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lemmy.world

Please Americans give the democrats the congress, so they can force Elmo into multi-week hearings Hunter Biden style. Make him lie under oath so much he’ll never recover

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Unfortunately at this point I don't see lying under oath being much of a crime anymore

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lemmy.world

Bold of you to assume the current administration will let you vote, except maybe as for where specifically the concentration camps for LGBTQ people will be built.

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It's one of those funny nuances of the USA though. Their elections are handled by the states, so they can only rig so much.

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60dreply

Murca needs electoral reform to a system of proportional representation.

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If you think the current batch of democrats will do this even if they have control of congress, be ready for disappointment. The dem establishment is too busy trying to preserve the status quo to actually stand up for the right of the people.

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Hahaha after walking around a stage in front of thousands of people at CPAC carrying a fucking chainsaw.

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I really hope this becomes a modern day Icarus story of a billionaire who flew too close to the sun and then set off a radical turn events for the better.

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piefed.social

Nobody "bats 1000". The best bat .400 - elon is such a goddamned idiot that he doesn't take the time to inform himself about how a thing he is talking about works - including something as simple as baseball. What a goddamned moron.

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He only wanted to kill investigations against himself and adjust some contracts.

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Good, maybe he'll stop. Sheer incompetence was our only saving grace with the first Trump admin. Let's hope this time is more of the same in that regard, as well.

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Maybe he should jump up and down and wave his arms like the top part of an "x".

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Maybe he got wind of Luigi's brother Mario, and now wants to back out of the spotlight.

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lemmy.world

What a fucking PUSSY lmfao. Guess all that Ketamine didn't """expand""" his mind after all.

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lemmy.world

Ketamine in small doses is sometimes proscribed to autistic people against stress. Not to expand something. Probably Elon overdid it.

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Ledericasreply
lemm.ee

I think he also uses nose powder and is known to drink excessive alcohol too

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lemmy.ca

I imagine he'll throw one or more of the kids under the bus.

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