Google to change Gulf of Mexico to 'Gulf of America' in maps
Summary
Google Maps will rename the Gulf of Mexico to the "Gulf of America" for U.S. users following a U.S. government decision.
The U.S. Department of Interior recently announced the official name change, implemented by the Board on Geographic Names.
Google stated it updates names based on official government sources.
The name will remain "Gulf of Mexico" in Mexico and display both names elsewhere globally.
This change stems from an executive order by Trump, who also reversed the 2015 renaming of Alaska's Denali to Mount McKinley.
https://www.dw.com/en/google-to-change-gulf-of-mexico-to-gulf-of-america-in-maps/a-71430435Open linkView original on lemmy.world284
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Well google maps can fuck right off, the cowards. What are everyone's recommendations for alternatives?
Organic Maps
Depends.
If you just want a map to find things, OsmAnd is good.
If you want to prepare hiking/biking trail maps and then download them for offline use, Alpi Maps is really nice.
If you want useful navigation that includes traffic data and gets the realistic arrival time close to correct, Magic Earth is really the only option (traffic time estimates depend on users agreeing to share their location data while using ME for navigation so that it can make traffic speed assessments - quality will depend on how many other ME users in your area have agreed to share their data).
All 3 ultimately depend on OpenStreetMap for their map data. If you use them, consider creating an account and contributing with a tool like StreetComplete.
If you want something that has locations of businesses &etc with accurate names, operating hours, contact information, pictures of the location, street view, user reviews... there are no alternatives.
OSM will rename the Gulf Of Mexico eventually as well, by policy. See towards the end of this long discussion thread: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/73
Organic maps on fdroid. Using open street maps and have a pretty good UI, and offline maps.
OsmAnd
It's just... No. I've used osmand for years and it's the absolute worst. The interface is way too complicated to use and the search is absolutely useless. I can only use it for offline maps while hiking to see where I am.
That's fair. For me none of the alternatives offer enough features to replace it. I often use it to highlight POIs of a type and all the different map views are great.
Referring to it's proper name, the Gulf of Mexico
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One of the defining characteristics of a fascist state is requiring economic entities to align with state interests.
Kind of expected, Google maps show you a different version depending of where you are, aligning with your government position.
Well, if that's how it works, every country now needs to renames the US to something else on their maps. Whoever has the best name wins something - like, the Olympics or free membership to the UN.
Suggestions now open, I'll start: "Little Girls Blouse"
United States of Oligarchs
That’s a bit boring though. Maybe they could put out a call for sponsors every week, the winner gets to name it. We’d get names like:
Which should drive home the point.
Would also help government funding.
The United Oligarchs of America
I already refer to the states as “dumbfuckistan” or “burgerland” to people I talk to IRL when I refer to the states and most people know where I’m talking about with little context. So that’s my suggestion.
United Safe Spaces of Trumpistan
United Bullies of America.
North Mexico Or the United Stains
Freedonia
IMO it should be called the Chicxulub Gulf, since the most significant thing to happen there, objectively speaking, was the end of the Cretaceous.
Deepwater Horizon Gulf
Google has no spine. When Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, they reclassified Crimea as Russian territory on the localized Russian version, and in a lot of locales they either flag it as disputed territory, or territory belonging to no nation.
you bet your ass they're going to do whatever Daddy tells them when it comes to the US. Lmao.
America isn't a sovereign nation anymore, its a slave state beholden to Corpo Syndicates, The Russian Mafia, and Israel. Trump is just a dumbass they put in front of the camera to serve as a public face to the shadow mafia.
Open Street Maps is a thing. Use it.
It's also publicly editable and used to generate a bunch of other maps - even for government use. It would be a damned shame if people created burner accounts and started renaming things owned by Trump and Musk...
Organic maps is the one I use
OSM will also eventually change it. It's the official name of the gulf in the US. Like it or not, that's the reality. Just like how English maps show "Japan" written over the country called Nihon.
No, they won't. They'll introduce additional names, but the gulf itself will not be renamed.
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571/102
I guess there's multiple ways to address this. Google has the resources to easily serve different maps to each country, while showing multiple names is an easier strategy.
Any client could choose to prefer region-specific names, but it's important to note that this is not the same as renaming the thing itself.
OSM also uses localized names for places. So there might be name changes happening there as well.
Not sure exactly how they do it for international names, they probably have a system, but if Trump starts renaming towns and states in the US like "State of Pu**ygrab", "State of Hillaries-emails" or whatever, everyone has to adapt, in order to not be disrespectful of the people and culture of the united states as is making any kind of fun about these cultural and historic differences. People from outside just do not understand them and their need to validate their place in the world as deeply as the people living there.
This is some next level dumb shit.
The important part is "for US users". The rest of the world does not care about Trumps childish tantrums.
Honestly, we don't either.
Good to know that the US needs it's own safe space haha
You can really tell how sheltered yanks are with this news.
This is pretty standard for Google maps. Names of locations change depending on what version of maps you use.
Google will use the official data from the government of whatever region it is, and the government Americans voted for changed the name.
No, we yanks are familiar with this policy. We just think capitulating to this performative nonsense is ridiculous.
But I want Google to stick it to bad orange man, Google should represent me not official data, Google is a Nazi company!!! 😭😭😭
Google is just asking people to switch to Organic maps with this one.
Apple maps for those wondering:
So if it's updated in an official source (not just because Trump wants it) but updated In the US geographic names system. Why would it not be updated at that point?
Because it's fucking stupid.
Small dick energy
Pulling a Xi, are we? Amazing to see where the orange overlord is getting his inspiration from.
I kind of get the whole 'Gulf of America's, at least conceptionally, America is the continent yada yada yada, it's fine, it's silly but fine.
But the Mount McKinley stuff is really baffling to me. Afaik McKinley never even visited Alaska during his presidency, alaskans themselves tried to change the name since at least the 1980s and the only thing that stood in the way was Ohio, as McKinleys home state, blocking the name change, until in 2015 they eventually relented and the name was changed back to its original indigenous name.
Why would they change it arbitrarily again? I don't understand? Is it just racism and it by chance happened during Obama's presidency?
If you consider the most petty possible explanation for any of these "actions," you'll always be at least partially, if not entirely, correct.
I firmly believe that Trump and friends are having a grand time trolling the world as petty revenge for losing 2020.
In other words, there is no reason other than they can do it and we can do nothing about it.
Honestly, it's the other way around for me. To be clear, Denali is a much better name than Mount McKinley for multiple reasons, but at least it's our mountain and it was named Mount McKinley at one time.
Gulf of America is just a dumb power move that came out of nowhere, and it's a body of water shared by multiple countries. It's not like this is the only gulf named after only one country it touches out of a few - see also the Gulf of Oman and Gulf of Thailand, for example
Y'all know that's not the argument :-)
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I will start calling the US Mexico of the North
The majority of the Gulf is not owned by a nation. There are legal boundaries. The US cannot dictate the name. As usual, trump is an idiot.
But it can dictate how federal agencies refer to geographic regions.
A private company or private citizen can do as it sees fits.
Get ready for some other bootlicking from Google, then Trump will write an executive order to drop the antitrust cases against Google.
Did anyone read the tweet? They are defending their decision not to change the name, because the change isn't official. No, they haven't "announced they will change the name".
Yeah, you can logically conclude based on that that they will update it once it's official, but the reporting is the opposite of what they said.
No they didn't. More fun to just be mad.
Switched to Apple Maps a few months ago, just one more reason to never switch back.
Stupid is as stupid does.
This is what we call "bitch behavior".
It's the Gulf of Mexico.
Google has sucked for a very long time. They’re greedy, monopolistic sociopaths that scrubbed “don’t be evil” from their principles pretty much the second there was a buck to be had from it.
It’s a shame they haven’t been broken up. If they had been, many of the Google Graveyard products would probably still be around.
https://killedbygoogle.com/
Wave can stay dead though. I’m okay with that.
They're renaming "New Mexico" to "South America"
I've asked my wife and she's OK if the government would like to come penetrate my anus for its pleasure as needed.
I'll have the lube ready, just let us known when you need it.
I’m just gonna go ahead and refer to it as the “Gulf of Canada” — the way Trump is leading America, Canada will extend all the way down there soon enough.
And Google can go fck itself for capitulating even before being asked. Fck that company.
Organic Maps is very good. One killer feature is that it can run completely offline, doesn’t track you, and is considerably more battery friendly than Google Maps.
And if you’re on an Apple device, Apple Maps is actually quite good now and probably has the lowest battery drain of any map app (on Apple hardware).
Bend over harder Google
Whilst I see where you're coming from, is there literally anything for Google to gain by being a stick in the mud over the issue? It'll probably get changed back in a few years time.
Google has been doing this all along with other places, don't suddenly get all up in arms when you guys clearly didn't care before.
Also pick your battles: with all the insane bullshit going on, naming of some body of water should be far down anyone's priority list
Explain?
Information on Google maps is different based on location. Most prominent examples are disputed borders like in Kashmir which are differently drawn in India and Pakistan.
Mexico is in North America.
I wonder if they called it gulf if mexoamerica if it would be a funny compromise.
I checked the NOAA chart viewer yesterday, and it hadn't changed there
Funds must be allocated. That said, they want to get rid of the National Weather Service part of the NOAA and force everyone to use shitty Accuweather, so it will be a lot cheaper.
I hate it when I get the wrong thread. Sigh.