Brazil asked Elon to ban 7 fascist accounts spreading disinformation
Elon refused pretending it was a free speech issue even though he complied multiple times with similar requests from right wing govts
Gotta say, this is new information to me. I’ve briefly looked at the stories and the banning of twitter, but I never realized this was entirely because Elon wouldn’t ban accounts as he does for right wing government.
Old twitter complied with 51% of legal requests, Elon's twitter is at 71%. Old twitter complied with 53% of government take down requests, Elon's is at 76%.
Old twitter also used to post a high detailed transparency report every 6 months. This one from Elon's twitter is light on detail, and the first in 2+ years.
So he's a lying liar and even his own data proves it.
Definitely has managed to invest in some incredibly profitable stuff but he also says and does the absolutely stupidest shit imaginable. It's astounding
Back in late 2022 I was in an argument with my (adult) nephew about how the government isn't limiting free speech on Twitter. I was explaining how "the free market" is deciding whether Elon will sink or swim. He just could not understand how the government -wasn't- responsible.
....idfk
(Yes, there were some Governmental take down requests, but none of them seemed very sus to me)
I had a similar discussion with some people at a barber shop back when Pre-Elon Twitter banned Trump. They were complaining about free speech and I asked if they knew what it actually meant (in the US). When I explained that we are ONLY guaranteed free speech from the gov't, and that Twitter was a private business and could ban whoever they want, the same way this barber shop could tell someone not to ever come back everyone got real quiet like "oh shit I have to rethink my whole world view". I actually got thanked at another time by one employee for telling them how it actually works.
Twix was called Raider in many european countries, above all all german speaking countries, don't ask me why. When they got renamed to Twix in 1991 about 70% of all countries that offered the bar already called it Twix.
The renaming happened with the slogan "Raider heißt jetzt Twix, … sonst ändert sich nix" broadly "Raider is now called Twix, ... nothing else changes"
The Slogan ofcourse was used by many german speaking comedians and satirists when it came to Twitter... "Twitter heißt jetzt X, ... sonst ändert sich nix.", with the added bonus that a lot changed, for the worse, underlining Muskian lies.
Now that's just kind of rude toward toddlers. He acts like what he is... a Ketamine addled, narcissistic billionaire, who got lucky in life and thinks he crafted his own destiny all by his own hands.
Ketamine is a dissociative which strips away what you know about things, sort of like how a child doesnt know things. So in a way, he's actually a toddler.
X/Twitter will soon be making more changes to the block button, with CEO Elon Musk confirming that all public posts will be viewable going forward, even to those who have been blocked
I thought most stuff was viewable even without account. Doesn't seem like a big deal if you can view their post but not interact with it since I would've thought others interacting with you was what you wanted to block them from doing anyway.
If you’re blocking users left and right that you know spread misinformation, you will still see their posts. No way you can keep track of the usernames in your head, and now you may hear a misinformation or two and assume it to be a fact.
Wow, that was not made clear to me. Fortunately I've never needed to block anyone specifically from my profiles/content (it's the other way around, I don't want to see some other users stuff)
But good to know if I had a stalker or something, blocking them doesn't mean they are blocked from my content, it means they're blocked from contact.
I totally would have assumed blocking someone on various social media platform went both ways in terms of what's visible to each other.
Before: if you block somebody, they cannot see your stuff.
After: if you block somebody, they can still visit your profile.
Usually, when you block someone, they can no longer see your feed; instead, it's replaced with a message stating that they're blocked. Now, they can freely browse your feed; they're just not allowed to interact or comment on your posts.
To be fair though: While circumventing that was as easy as logging out, the inability to see things while logged in was kinda stupid and gave people a false perception of privacy. In that setting that change is just a case of being honest.
With the ability to view posts without account largely removed, it’s a bit of a different story, but I have to admit that if it’s public on Xitter, it’s still kinda public, so hiding it still kinda missing the poin.
Size doesn't matter imo, especially not between an organically growing distributed user-ran network and a corporate Twitter wannabe who, despite calls of wanting to decentralise, basically have 99% of users on its main instance
I'd say Mozilla, but they just took all their social media funding away and threw it at AI.
Nobody was using their instance from what I heard. So a bit of a wasted effort.
What sort of money are they throwing at AI? I only know about the sidebar and that's basically just a tab to a website of your choosing. Couldn't have been expensive.
Mastodon has serious UX problems that even other federated networks don't have. I'm pretty well tech literate and love Lemmy, for instance, but I just couldn't ever get Mastodon to stick for me, like it just didn't have the right feel and wasn't fun to use. And if it's not working for me then it's never going to take off with a more general audience.
Bluesky is a lot better. It still has some issues that I feel keep it from fully replacing Twitter, especially Twitter before Elon screwed it up. But it does manage to keep me checking it, even though it's probably only once or twice a week max.
How is Bluesky easier to use when it's literally also federated? And you can just create an account on any Mastodon instance like mastodon.world or mastodon.social and start using it.
It may be easier because Bluesky already made the choice for you, you don't need to pick an instance, the default is Bluesky Social and that's it, if you want a different one you can search it or make one. It removes that tiny mental block of having to commit to a server you don't know if you will like.
That's inaccurate and reductive. ATproto and ActivityPub do not federate the same way, and how they work greatly affects how users interact with the entire ecosystem.
On Mastodon, pick the wrong instance and there's content you'll never see, migration isn't complete, discovery is so bad they started a new initiative to try fixing it, instances have their own cultures, and so on.
Bluesky has issues, some I'd consider critical, but they're not directly user-facing for the most part. Make an account, you get the same experience as everyone else.
edit: Sorry, I have this issue where I try to be concise, yet feel like I end up being rude. I get your confusion, but they're quite different. Hopefully this helped; I can elaborate if you want.
I wonder whether it was the right decision to not federate with Threads.
On the one hand, yes, they would have caused a lot of problematic content, but on the other hand, it would have meant a lot of new users, and that would have livened up the place a bit. I guess.
Maybe we could do a switch in the user profile for Lemmy where it says "show Thread posts in All posts". Or something.
Sadly, Mastodon had its shot during the pandemic and blew it. The non-tech savvy didn't understand how federation worked and they marketed themselves very poorly.
I agree, but there was also the problem of Mastodon has no marketing budget. Before Musk closed the sale on Twitter, they had 2 full time employees, IIRC.
Yet, Bluesky didn't even support video posts until two weeks ago. Many other highly requested features are still missing. To what extent does the success of each platform come down to money? What did Bluesky do with a larger budget to get an edge?
My recollection is that they advertised and got Important People™ to post there as part of their invite-only beta. Don't quote me on this, but I believe they paid some of these people to create accounts and post there. Not sure if that was a rumor or not.
Why replace horrible company with bad company run by literally THE guy that let the prior company become horrible instead of replacing it with good non-profit network?
FOMO. More celebrities are on Bluesky than Mastodon and people don't care enough about open protocols and so forth to forego that. If Taylor Swift was only on some Fediverse-enabled platform and nothing else, people would come here in droves. Taylor Swift does not post on Mastodon so people don't want an account here. Replace Taylor Swift for anyone of any sort of popularity and ask the same questions.
I do wonder who the most famous person in the world is that exclusively posts on a Fediverse-platform. It could very well be Eugen Rochko, who probably has about a 0.05% name recognition throughout the world.
As someone who once had a toddler, he's not beloved, he's hated by most parents. Because he's fucking awful. Stop talking to the fish and the baby, Elmo! They can't fucking understand you! Also, you don't seem to notice that Mr. Noodle keeps changing and that lack of basic attention to detail is worrying.
On top of that, his parents basically neglect him, which is why you never see him.
Fuck Elmo. Give me Cookie Monster, Ernie and Bert and Oscar the Grouch.
Why would MBS be cool with giving Elon $22 BILLION for his fuckup?
Same reason idiots kept throwing money at trump back when his resume was just a list of bankrupcies (several hotels, an airline and a casino), moneyed people are way stupider than we think.
I dunno, I follow some political, rap, and basketball YouTubers and they all use Twitter. I'd much rather them use Bluesky or Threads. I think Mastodon would probably be best but so far, anything's better than Twitter.
Because "it's where people are going" - plus those two are already well known among normies, unlike mastodon/misskey/fediverse. They want a centralized thing.
Funnily enough, during this brazilian exodus, my sister complained that Threads was too "clean", while bluesky had all the "people with questionable mental stability" and was thus more interesting.
Brazil didn't shut down "X". They did it themselves so X wouldn't have a Brazilian entity subject to Brazilian court orders. That is why Starlink got caught in the mess.
Local press and lots of people in Brazil criticize judges because, due to flaws on local laws and 80's redemocratization efforts, they have some perks, privileges and exceptional powers no democratic country would give to them. There are cases ranging from content showing them traveling overseas being not visible on local internet and TV people being given cease-and-desist orders for disagreeing with some judge decision, to people being detained by Federal Police agents for criticizing justice system inside a plane that happens to have a judge among the passengers - not to mention those FBI agents detained at Rio de Janeiro airport for containing a judge's wife who got unruly in a plane for drinking too much during the fly.
This time however he asked for it, and our justice system toke the right decisions. Elon Musk should know how ridiculously overpowered our judges are before acting like that.
That's the definition of cultural, not internet meme, which is a much more broader definition. Internet memes are generally supposed to be amusing, ironic or relatable.
It's meta-ironic. Not that the post is irony, but his actions are.
What is the meaning of irony?
a situation in which something which was intended to have a particular result has the opposite or a very different result
First of all, Elon is probably just trying to do some marketing bullshit
But Brazilian STF is full of crap also, Alexandre de Moraes is Just censoring people without any judgment or justification, he tried to prohibit the use of vpn and created a "fake news" committee where he get to say what is real or not
And I am not they, I do not speak for a group or Nothing of sorts, I just feel sad when my country situation is just overlooked, please don't put me in the same basket as whatever you was putting me
The whole ordeal is still going in under some secrecy, but I suspect the main parts that make it controversial are these, from the given article:
When the inquiry began, it was from an "elastic" understanding of the internal regiment of the Supreme Court. It's a process that, under normal circumstances, requires either a police or the Public Ministry to ask to investigate first.
In a lone vote against opening the inquiry, judge Marco Aurelio said the process should've begun via the Procuradoria Geral da República
Everything is still going under secrecy.
There's no definite end in sight for the investigations
The Brazilian STF has MANY flaws, chief among them of having no "power" that oversees it (the senate does, in theory, but no senator is dumb enough to fight the judiciary), but Moraes is the only son of a bitch with a sprinkle of decency (which I don't expect to last past this "hunt" on the far right) and actually being proactive, unlike every other judge who is a morose sloth that will only react through "notas de repúdio" (notice of disapproval) that nobody gives a single flying fuck about and sit on fucking cases for over a year because there's nobody to tell them to do their fucking job correctly*
Very important to keep in mind is the context. During the entirety of bozonazi's presidency (2019-2022), it was a known "secret" that he used everything he could to incite people against the supreme court. The Gabinete do Ódio (Hate Cabinet), which kept the crazies "informed" with bullshit, was a fact known by everyone. Among said crazies were the fuckers that, in june 2020, fired fireworks at the STF building as a "warning". Bozo and his flunkies threatened the supreme court every fucking week and bozo himself used a meeting with foreign dignitaries to cast doubt on the voting machines. To think all those threats were empty would be pure stupidity, especially when they culminated with the January 8 failed coup.
*Just look at Gilmar Mendes and his famous "perdido de vista" with ADI 4.650, where the old fart sat on the case for 18 months. It wanted to make it illegal for companies and corporations to finance political campaigns. The old fat fuck was in favor of keeping them legal but he knew if the judgement continued, his vote would lose, so he just sat on the case while the 2014 elections rolled with lots and lots of corporate money flowing around.
Some may have only caught the story insofar as "Twatter refuses to pay fine, is banned in Brazil" is concerned, with the other details left unfilled. The short summary here emphasizes just how much of an unforced error this all was.
Here's a response assuming you're question was in good faith. I follow lots of news stories from multiple sources and I count lemmy as one of those sources. This was my first time hearing this. This is part of my process to stay informed. If OP had not posted this, I may not have known. Hope this helps!
I did not know anything about this. The only social media I use is Lemmy (and Facebook Messenger reluctantly) and I avoid the news. I also filter out the word Musk cause I don't give a crap about that piss baby. But this ELI5 was great, always nice to see rich fucks get fucked.
Fuck you rocket Kiko hahah
I'm so down to calling him Kiko from here on out.
Thanks to Brazil for making this possible!
It's in my head, it's done.
Holy shit, he actually does look like Villagran lmao
Indeed lol
Reply to his every tweet with that.
Just you wait til Rocket Kiko knows about that and tells everything to his mom! As soon as he's done crying on the corner...
Hahahah I visualized that
Gotta say, this is new information to me. I’ve briefly looked at the stories and the banning of twitter, but I never realized this was entirely because Elon wouldn’t ban accounts as he does for right wing government.
Elon seems like a kinda shitty guy.
Hot take!
I mean it genuinely is because of the "kinda" and "seems"
"Elon is a shitty guy" is one of the coldest takes out there at this point
He censors way more than old twitter, and is way less transparent about it.
Old twitter complied with 51% of legal requests, Elon's twitter is at 71%. Old twitter complied with 53% of government take down requests, Elon's is at 76%.
Old twitter also used to post a high detailed transparency report every 6 months. This one from Elon's twitter is light on detail, and the first in 2+ years.
So he's a lying liar and even his own data proves it.
But remember kids, he's some sort of business and tech genius!
The real life inspiration for super genius Cave Johnson from Portal.
Yeah, but Cave Johnson was a compelling and interesting individual.
A bit unfair since real life idiots don't have good writing teams.
Sometimes they have good PR teams though. Musk used to have a PR team back when he was rich enough to afford one but not rich enough to not need one.
Definitely has managed to invest in some incredibly profitable stuff but he also says and does the absolutely stupidest shit imaginable. It's astounding
Happy cake day
a lot of that profit is derived from a set of rug pulls that only work because he had the money of the victims to keep pushing his image in the media
He wants Twix to be Truth Social, but also profitable, and doesn't understand why he can't have it both ways.
Back in late 2022 I was in an argument with my (adult) nephew about how the government isn't limiting free speech on Twitter. I was explaining how "the free market" is deciding whether Elon will sink or swim. He just could not understand how the government -wasn't- responsible.
....idfk
(Yes, there were some Governmental take down requests, but none of them seemed very sus to me)
I had a similar discussion with some people at a barber shop back when Pre-Elon Twitter banned Trump. They were complaining about free speech and I asked if they knew what it actually meant (in the US). When I explained that we are ONLY guaranteed free speech from the gov't, and that Twitter was a private business and could ban whoever they want, the same way this barber shop could tell someone not to ever come back everyone got real quiet like "oh shit I have to rethink my whole world view". I actually got thanked at another time by one employee for telling them how it actually works.
That's dope. It's rare to get through to people like that.
Right Twix.
What's this got to do with Twix? I love a good Twix...
Fuck me, now I gotta go buy a Twix. And a Lion, do they still make those? God they were the best.
Raider is now Twix
Twitter is now X
Twitter X
Twix
Same same
I had no idea Twix used to be called Raider, I've learned something new!
Snickers used to be called Marathon, I know that one :-)
Twix was called Raider in many european countries, above all all german speaking countries, don't ask me why. When they got renamed to Twix in 1991 about 70% of all countries that offered the bar already called it Twix.
The renaming happened with the slogan "Raider heißt jetzt Twix, … sonst ändert sich nix" broadly "Raider is now called Twix, ... nothing else changes"
The Slogan ofcourse was used by many german speaking comedians and satirists when it came to Twitter... "Twitter heißt jetzt X, ... sonst ändert sich nix.", with the added bonus that a lot changed, for the worse, underlining Muskian lies.
Oooh so there's actually much more to it than meets the eye! Damn. Thanks for taking the time to explain :-)
I bet this information will be mixed with my COVID fever dreams and is going to remain lodged in my brain as core knowledge somehow forever :P
I like Xitter still better. I dunno about his current ties to China but in Chinese you pronounce xi as shi AFAIK.
No, you pronounce it like /ɕi³⁵/
He acts literally like a fucking toddler.
Perhaps even a toddler in a tantrum.
Now that's just kind of rude toward toddlers. He acts like what he is... a Ketamine addled, narcissistic billionaire, who got lucky in life and thinks he crafted his own destiny all by his own hands.
Fair enough, fair enough. Toddlers are way more pleasant than him, even when they've shat their pants. I apologise to all toddlers.
Ketamine is a dissociative which strips away what you know about things, sort of like how a child doesnt know things. So in a way, he's actually a toddler.
Sounds like another Fan of The Art of the Deal
Sounds like another fucking narcissist.
That's what they said :P
Fart of the Deal
Twitter is now removing the block function next. It ought to bleed users like crazy.
Wait, what?
X/Twitter will soon be making more changes to the block button, with CEO Elon Musk confirming that all public posts will be viewable going forward, even to those who have been blocked
I thought most stuff was viewable even without account. Doesn't seem like a big deal if you can view their post but not interact with it since I would've thought others interacting with you was what you wanted to block them from doing anyway.
If you’re blocking users left and right that you know spread misinformation, you will still see their posts. No way you can keep track of the usernames in your head, and now you may hear a misinformation or two and assume it to be a fact.
I think they are just changing it so the blocked user can still see the blocker's posts, not the other way around.
Oh, that’s just normal then
Wow, that was not made clear to me. Fortunately I've never needed to block anyone specifically from my profiles/content (it's the other way around, I don't want to see some other users stuff)
But good to know if I had a stalker or something, blocking them doesn't mean they are blocked from my content, it means they're blocked from contact.
I totally would have assumed blocking someone on various social media platform went both ways in terms of what's visible to each other.
Isn't that how it works on most platforms though? You can see the account you've been blocked by, but can't interact with them.
On reddit it stopped the blocked person from seeing your account and comments.
Or it used to. Or I'm misremembering.
Which is not even a big deal because blocked users could just create a separate account to view posts they're blocked from anyway.
No they aren't. They are changing how it works, in a way that is mostly immaterial to the user. That is not even close to completely removing.
Yep.
From the sounds of it:
Before: if you block somebody, they cannot see your stuff.
After: if you block somebody, they can still visit your profile.
https://www.makeuseof.com/x-block-feature-poor-job-blocking-people/
NGL Elon's excitement sounds like he was blocked by a lot of people and Daddy Musk will not have closed doors in this household! 😮💨
Stalkers and abusers rejoice!
Seriously, if you are on twitter and have had a relationship with someone like this do not post on your account or they will find you now.
Your scenario doesn't exist. All you had to do to get around this was make a new profile.
A small barrier is better than none
To be fair though: While circumventing that was as easy as logging out, the inability to see things while logged in was kinda stupid and gave people a false perception of privacy. In that setting that change is just a case of being honest.
With the ability to view posts without account largely removed, it’s a bit of a different story, but I have to admit that if it’s public on Xitter, it’s still kinda public, so hiding it still kinda missing the poin.
No longer being able to hide your public posts from specific users seems hardly immaterial to me.
Why, oh, why, Bluesky and not Mastodon
Mastodon has more users than Bluesky. (I fear it won't stay like that for a long time anymore though as Bluesky has a bigger growth rate.)
All those people and its never managed to show me anything I felt was worthy of following.
lol then leave
Size doesn't matter imo, especially not between an organically growing distributed user-ran network and a corporate Twitter wannabe who, despite calls of wanting to decentralise, basically have 99% of users on its main instance
Because Mastodon needs a reliable instance with a catchy domain name. Maybe even the slightest bit of advertising.
Someone reputable could make a real Twitter competitor for about $2m a year these days.
I'd say Mozilla, but they just took all their social media funding away and threw it at AI. Genius.
Would you worry Google would have too much influence?
I would worry that Google will simply discontinue the product abruptly. Google is unreliable with product longevity.
It's rather see NYTimes get into it. Even if they time allow outside signups on their instance.
mastodon.world? mastodon.social?
Which don't exactly have the name recognition of The New York Times.
Nobody was using their instance from what I heard. So a bit of a wasted effort.
What sort of money are they throwing at AI? I only know about the sidebar and that's basically just a tab to a website of your choosing. Couldn't have been expensive.
They never allowed people to use it. There was a wait-list. It never opened afaik outside of Mozilla people.
Mozilla is all in on ads actually
Mastodon has serious UX problems that even other federated networks don't have. I'm pretty well tech literate and love Lemmy, for instance, but I just couldn't ever get Mastodon to stick for me, like it just didn't have the right feel and wasn't fun to use. And if it's not working for me then it's never going to take off with a more general audience.
Bluesky is a lot better. It still has some issues that I feel keep it from fully replacing Twitter, especially Twitter before Elon screwed it up. But it does manage to keep me checking it, even though it's probably only once or twice a week max.
Cause all the Linux people, FOSS people, and communists are already here.
I think one of the biggest reasons is that the Fediverse is often a pain to get into and sometimes a pain to use.
Bluesky and Threads "just work."
Some people say it's marketing and in Threads' case I can believe it, but I haven't seen any example of large marketing campaign by Bluesky.
How is Bluesky easier to use when it's literally also federated? And you can just create an account on any Mastodon instance like mastodon.world or mastodon.social and start using it.
It may be easier because Bluesky already made the choice for you, you don't need to pick an instance, the default is Bluesky Social and that's it, if you want a different one you can search it or make one. It removes that tiny mental block of having to commit to a server you don't know if you will like.
That's inaccurate and reductive. ATproto and ActivityPub do not federate the same way, and how they work greatly affects how users interact with the entire ecosystem.
On Mastodon, pick the wrong instance and there's content you'll never see, migration isn't complete, discovery is so bad they started a new initiative to try fixing it, instances have their own cultures, and so on.
Bluesky has issues, some I'd consider critical, but they're not directly user-facing for the most part. Make an account, you get the same experience as everyone else.
edit: Sorry, I have this issue where I try to be concise, yet feel like I end up being rude. I get your confusion, but they're quite different. Hopefully this helped; I can elaborate if you want.
I wonder whether it was the right decision to not federate with Threads.
On the one hand, yes, they would have caused a lot of problematic content, but on the other hand, it would have meant a lot of new users, and that would have livened up the place a bit. I guess.
Maybe we could do a switch in the user profile for Lemmy where it says "show Thread posts in All posts". Or something.
Sadly, Mastodon had its shot during the pandemic and blew it. The non-tech savvy didn't understand how federation worked and they marketed themselves very poorly.
I agree, but there was also the problem of Mastodon has no marketing budget. Before Musk closed the sale on Twitter, they had 2 full time employees, IIRC.
But Bluesky is federated as well; why isn't that a problem for Bluesky either.
The budget for Mastodon gGmbH is measured in the hundreds of thousands of dollars and Bluesky's is much more than that.
Yet, Bluesky didn't even support video posts until two weeks ago. Many other highly requested features are still missing. To what extent does the success of each platform come down to money? What did Bluesky do with a larger budget to get an edge?
My recollection is that they advertised and got Important People™ to post there as part of their invite-only beta. Don't quote me on this, but I believe they paid some of these people to create accounts and post there. Not sure if that was a rumor or not.
I looked around, but was unable to find more about this. Until something new comes up, I'm assuming it's just a rumor.
Because people, even leftists, want the bad company to be replaced by a good company.
Why replace horrible company with bad company run by literally THE guy that let the prior company become horrible instead of replacing it with good non-profit network?
FOMO. More celebrities are on Bluesky than Mastodon and people don't care enough about open protocols and so forth to forego that. If Taylor Swift was only on some Fediverse-enabled platform and nothing else, people would come here in droves. Taylor Swift does not post on Mastodon so people don't want an account here. Replace Taylor Swift for anyone of any sort of popularity and ask the same questions.
I do wonder who the most famous person in the world is that exclusively posts on a Fediverse-platform. It could very well be Eugen Rochko, who probably has about a 0.05% name recognition throughout the world.
Are you talking about Dorsey? Because if so, he left Bluesky as he didn't like their focus on moderation.
Not that it matters much, I sincerely doubt most users look up such details before joining anything. It's all about the experience.
uuh, new users for the fediverse. looking forward to y'all ;-)
I still prefer to refer to him as “Leon.”
In South Africa, we call him Melon Husk.
"Elmo" is better if you ask me. They're both annoying children that need to shut the fuck up and go away.
Elmo is beloved and doesn't hurt anyone. Put some respect on his name.
As someone who once had a toddler, he's not beloved, he's hated by most parents. Because he's fucking awful. Stop talking to the fish and the baby, Elmo! They can't fucking understand you! Also, you don't seem to notice that Mr. Noodle keeps changing and that lack of basic attention to detail is worrying.
On top of that, his parents basically neglect him, which is why you never see him.
Fuck Elmo. Give me Cookie Monster, Ernie and Bert and Oscar the Grouch.
I swear that's the first time I have heard them referred to as Ernie and Bert and not Bert n ernie
Apparently Sesame Street prefers it my way: https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/The_Best_of_Ernie_and_Bert
Yeah get him! Elmo has been dodging the consequences of his war crimes for far too long.
Israel, is that you?
I have these same feelings for Paw Patrol
Nothing can top the searing hatred for Caillou though.
We don't say that name in this house.
that makes him sound more normal
Nah, Leon is a decent name, also that protagonist from some Resident Evil games
Leon Dusk.
Elephant musth
Perhaps Elon ran his mouth, was forced to buy Twitter because signed papers and MBS saw an oppertunity to remove Twitter from the scene?
Guy made a couple of lucky investments and convinced himself he's a superior being.
Same reason idiots kept throwing money at trump back when his resume was just a list of bankrupcies (several hotels, an airline and a casino), moneyed people are way stupider than we think.
Because he is a bitch.
This is a hint at why he wanted involvement in PayPal and wants X to be a financial service. You can't take away money from a system he controls.
The government can absolutely take away money he controls.
Stay on blue sky guys.
And keep leaving Twitter!
There's no way I'm leaving Twitter... because I never joined.
Good job!
Elon should have received additional fines for his taunts and threats, honestly.
Elon hasn't said a word, but we will.
Fucking emerald spoon clown.
That is the most accurate description for him. Zero notes, pitch perfect.
Having an account on X supports this shit whether you like it or not it.
Why BlueSky or even Threads tho?
I dunno, I follow some political, rap, and basketball YouTubers and they all use Twitter. I'd much rather them use Bluesky or Threads. I think Mastodon would probably be best but so far, anything's better than Twitter.
Because "it's where people are going" - plus those two are already well known among normies, unlike mastodon/misskey/fediverse. They want a centralized thing.
Funnily enough, during this brazilian exodus, my sister complained that Threads was too "clean", while bluesky had all the "people with questionable mental stability" and was thus more interesting.
As long as the general public only hears the first half of the story, it's good marketing
We're part of the general public, and we've heard both halves.
Especially since the second half already contains the consequences of bad marketing.
Brazil didn't shut down "X". They did it themselves so X wouldn't have a Brazilian entity subject to Brazilian court orders. That is why Starlink got caught in the mess.
Local press and lots of people in Brazil criticize judges because, due to flaws on local laws and 80's redemocratization efforts, they have some perks, privileges and exceptional powers no democratic country would give to them. There are cases ranging from content showing them traveling overseas being not visible on local internet and TV people being given cease-and-desist orders for disagreeing with some judge decision, to people being detained by Federal Police agents for criticizing justice system inside a plane that happens to have a judge among the passengers - not to mention those FBI agents detained at Rio de Janeiro airport for containing a judge's wife who got unruly in a plane for drinking too much during the fly.
This time however he asked for it, and our justice system toke the right decisions. Elon Musk should know how ridiculously overpowered our judges are before acting like that.
wait until you learn about the supreme court in the USA
Master gambit, Sir.
I wish I had his problems.
How's this a meme?
Your face is a meme.*
Seriously, screenshat your face. Call it a meme. If others adopt it, it's a meme.
*^Not legal advice^
Don't make me tap the sign with the description of meme from The Selfish Gene.
meme /mēm/ noun
A unit of cultural information, such as a cultural practice or idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to another.
This is a meme
That's the definition of cultural, not internet meme, which is a much more broader definition. Internet memes are generally supposed to be amusing, ironic or relatable.
It's meta-ironic. Not that the post is irony, but his actions are.
It's not, it's a twittex screen cap.
First of all, Elon is probably just trying to do some marketing bullshit But Brazilian STF is full of crap also, Alexandre de Moraes is Just censoring people without any judgment or justification, he tried to prohibit the use of vpn and created a "fake news" committee where he get to say what is real or not
I tried searching for sources that back up the claim that the judge created a fake news committee under his control and couldn't find anything.
Not saying it's false, but do you have a source for that?
You know they dont
And I am not they, I do not speak for a group or Nothing of sorts, I just feel sad when my country situation is just overlooked, please don't put me in the same basket as whatever you was putting me
Sorry, I think I translated poorly by "fake news committee" i was referring to the "inquérito das fake news".
This was very controversial even when was born, so you probably will find a lot in Brazilian fonts.
https://www.cnnbrasil.com.br/politica/entenda-as-controversias-do-inquerito-das-fake-news-relatado-por-moraes-ha-mais-de-5-anos/
The whole ordeal is still going in under some secrecy, but I suspect the main parts that make it controversial are these, from the given article:
The Brazilian STF has MANY flaws, chief among them of having no "power" that oversees it (the senate does, in theory, but no senator is dumb enough to fight the judiciary), but Moraes is the only son of a bitch with a sprinkle of decency (which I don't expect to last past this "hunt" on the far right) and actually being proactive, unlike every other judge who is a morose sloth that will only react through "notas de repúdio" (notice of disapproval) that nobody gives a single flying fuck about and sit on fucking cases for over a year because there's nobody to tell them to do their fucking job correctly*
Very important to keep in mind is the context. During the entirety of bozonazi's presidency (2019-2022), it was a known "secret" that he used everything he could to incite people against the supreme court. The Gabinete do Ódio (Hate Cabinet), which kept the crazies "informed" with bullshit, was a fact known by everyone. Among said crazies were the fuckers that, in june 2020, fired fireworks at the STF building as a "warning". Bozo and his flunkies threatened the supreme court every fucking week and bozo himself used a meeting with foreign dignitaries to cast doubt on the voting machines. To think all those threats were empty would be pure stupidity, especially when they culminated with the January 8 failed coup.
*Just look at Gilmar Mendes and his famous "perdido de vista" with ADI 4.650, where the old fart sat on the case for 18 months. It wanted to make it illegal for companies and corporations to finance political campaigns. The old fat fuck was in favor of keeping them legal but he knew if the judgement continued, his vote would lose, so he just sat on the case while the 2014 elections rolled with lots and lots of corporate money flowing around.
He tried, he can try whatever he wants, it's not him who decide
Some may have only caught the story insofar as "Twatter refuses to pay fine, is banned in Brazil" is concerned, with the other details left unfilled. The short summary here emphasizes just how much of an unforced error this all was.
You could have included that they're using Cloudflare now to work around the ban.
If that works then they aren’t doing the ban properly.
Cloudflare agreed with the Brazilian govt to keep the ban working.
Not everyone feels the need to read such articles. I'm glad for this summary. Provided it's true, but it's entirely believable.
You're asking if there are others on Lemmy without your perception and understanding of the world?
I think this might be a "sit down" talk...
Here's a response assuming you're question was in good faith. I follow lots of news stories from multiple sources and I count lemmy as one of those sources. This was my first time hearing this. This is part of my process to stay informed. If OP had not posted this, I may not have known. Hope this helps!
Where specifically should we be getting news from?
I picked up about 20% of it because I don't give a shit about Twitter
Or Elon…
Correct
I actually appreciated the summary! I only heard the broad strokes about Brazil banning Xitter.
First time I've heard about any of this.
I did not know anything about this. The only social media I use is Lemmy (and Facebook Messenger reluctantly) and I avoid the news. I also filter out the word Musk cause I don't give a crap about that piss baby. But this ELI5 was great, always nice to see rich fucks get fucked.
What an asinine and worthless comment.
What kind of question is that? What kind of answer do you want?