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Admiral Snaccbar @Chris Mench Serving shrimp with the tail still on when it's already mixed into something (pasta, rice, etc) is insane.

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lemmy.ca

When driving you are making things more dangerous and less efficient by waving people in. If it is your right of way take it.

Be predictable, not polite.

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Almost got into an accident last night on this. Car 1 stopped at a 4way to my right, Car 2 opposite me stopped, then I stopped. Distinctly. Whole ass seconds between all stops. Me and 2 are waiting for 1 to go. It's 11:00pm. I can't say for sure, but I just KNOW Car 1 was waving his hands at us, who can't see through his windshield because that's how night time works. Way too much time passes, and me and 2 are like, fuck it and start going, then 1 flashes his brights and goes narrowly missing both of us. Was he just really wanting to be an a car accident? Is he drunk? Who knows, but half the accidents I've narrowly avoided involve a 4 way stop and an idiot.

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I point this out to my kids on a regular basis. My oldest is 15 and about to get his license. I tell him that cars being polite are being dicks to those behind them.

Your quote is the exact quote I say to him.

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XIIIesqreply
lemmy.world

Drivers that want to queue in single file when you should use all available lanes and then merge in turn at the front.

REEEEEEEEEE!!!

Edit: I really want to know the thoughts of the people that downvoted this lol

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Magnergyreply
lemmy.world

Simple, orderly zippering when a lane actually ends is the way. Wasting that useful pavement to create slower traffic and more traffic jam is insane and should be ticketed.

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XIIIesqreply
lemmy.world

The most infuriating are the wannabe policeman that straddle both lanes to stop people passing.

Like, if you wanna sit in a queue for no reason then good for you, don't stop people passing that have actually bothered to read the highway code.

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Yeah. It isn't about cheating, fairness, who got in a lane first. Isn't territory to defend. We don't have to enforce rules on each other. The traffic planners and road crews went through a bit of effort with like signs and cones and shit to tell us where they want us to merge. Zippering helps everyone go faster. Kinda why the planners want us to do it.

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Got into that with my MIL once.

When confronted with the idea of leaving an emergency lane in a traffic jam, she also vehemently insisted she'd never done that.

That woman shouldn't drive.

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I fucking hate this because it creates ambiguity, usually at times when things need to happen very quickly. It always seems to happen at busy intersections when I've got mere seconds to get through, usually a left hand turn. I'm waiting because I need to make the turn, there's a person across from me going straight who will have the right of way and I can't go til they go, but I'm looking back and forth waiting for an opening for when that person will go (and then me). The opening comes... and I wait... and they wait, and then I see this fucking person is looking at me like a jackass like they were doing me a favor. The favor would've been them following the goddamn right of way, then we both could've gone to where we needed to go, now I have to wait again.

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In my city there is a very popular good samaritan trap on the main drag into town, and I am waiting for the day something nasty happens at that particular parking lot entrance, so then they maybe redesign that section of the street or something.

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ladreply
programming.dev

I first thought you were talking about waving to pedestrians to cross when you stop to let them go. Which (edit: stopping and waiting) is a correct and expected behaviour, afaik

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lemmy.ca

Stopping for pedestrians at cross walks is correct, but you should never be waving at anyone to go.

When you wave at people to go they are less likely to check that the other lanes are safe for them to cross. You stop and look right at them so they know you see them and wait until they go on their own.

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That was about what I meant, but thanks for expressing this, sorry I was vague.

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That's fine. That's telling a pedestrian you have seen them and are obeying the rules of the road. That's reasonable.

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Bertuccioreply
lemmy.world

Misunderstanding "right of way" is half the problem.

Right of way is ability to make a road, or the road itself by extension. You can't have the right of way - it's usually the government's - and you can't give it away. This is why wording is consistently who must yield the right of way, and not who has the right of way.

If it's a driver's turn to act, they are obligated to act. It's not their option or right to act.

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lemmy.world

I've usually heard "right of way" used in terms of sense 3 of the dictionary. I've never heard it used to refer to the ability to make a road -- that just makes me think you have a skilled construction crew on speed dial.

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Bertuccioreply
lemmy.world

Dictionaries list common usage - even if incorrect. Look up the definition of right of way for your state or other government and I'm certain it will be the thing on which you travel or the right to create and manage it, not your "rights" while traveling on it.

I couldn't find a list of all definitions by state but the three states I checked all use that.

It would be weird if they didn't, since that's been the term since before automobiles existed: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_way

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beaiounsreply
lemmy.world

Am I out of touch? No, it's the dictionaries that are wrong.

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Looks like someone looked up their state definition and was annoyed at being wrong 😉

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Indeed, in the boating world, the words are "stand-on" or "burdened" vessel, which makes it clear that the vessel that should continue its course has the obligation to do so under the collision regulations. The "give way" vessel should alter its course or intentions to "keep clear." Nobody — nobody! — has the "right of way."

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XIIIesqreply
lemmy.world

There's actually no legal definition for "right of way" in the UK. Despite it being a widely understood concept, if you go to court to defend yourself in a road traffic accident and your defence is "it was my right of way, your honour", you could find yourself in trouble.

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Ok. I was referring to the commonly known and understood "right of way" in regards to road traffic, I thought that was obvious but perhaps I could have made it clearer, but thanks for letting me know of the term in regards to access to land and public rights of way.

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sh.itjust.works

Yeah I've never understood if they expect me to just eat the tail, or start playing with my pasta with my hands to pull them off. Certainly not gonna waste like half my shrimp by just cutting the meat where the tail starts.

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lemmy.world

"Oh yes sure please make my comfort food more difficult to eat thanks"

I'm right there with you. Serving shrimp tail-on might as well be serving something on a log instead of a plate.

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SouthFreshreply
lemmy.ml

Assert dominance by eating as per normal and when you encounter a tail, spit it at the chef.

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Screamiumreply
lemmy.world

Am I eating in the restaurant kitchen or walking back there each time I bite a tail?

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Oh trust me, I don't need the extra awkwardness!

Chef: (Still holding towel after wiping 13 shrimp tail shells off his face) Back again?!

Me: (Awkwardly hovering in the doorway) Yeah sorry, I was going back and forth on this but I found a shell piece all by itself with no shrimp in it and while I have no reason to put it in my mouth I figured I needed to show conviction to impress my date so... PATOOIE

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My dad leaves the shell fully on as a stand-alone appetizer of grilled shrimp, so the shrimp is entirely covered in shell. It took until the third time my ex had dinner there for him to ask why the shrimp was so crunchy and for me to realize I’d forgotten to warn him.

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marcosreply
lemmy.world

Press the very start of the tail with your fork sideways so it's cut, then pull the shrimp from the tail with the fork and knife.

Anyway, the post is right, it's borderline violent insanity.

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Yeah but that's such a fiddly process. I've sprayed pasta and sauce all over the table because my knife or fork slipped trying to do surgery on my food

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I don’t get when a fancy restaurant does it. If it’s not a Cajun boil or similar vibe, please don’t try to make me look polite deconstructing seafood.

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Great! My fork slipped while trying to perform this insane feat of dexterity and my shrimp flew across the restaurant!

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My cheat for getting the shrimp meat out is to pinch the tail. It just slides right out.

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Putting anything inedible on a plate is insane.

If its on my plate in a restaurant, I will attempt to eat it.

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I was on a school trip to a hotel, and was handed some dragon fruit. They didn't tell me how to eat it, so I bit right into it. Took out a big chunk and wanting to try something new I kept chewing it.

The man had a look of what was a mix between horror and surprise on his face and told me to spit it out.

Not really a plate but I was handed something with inedible parts and no instructions. Similar I suppose?

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Not sure if this is a thing everywhere, but a lot of bakeries around here will serve baked goods on a plate with a napkin under the baked goods. Not a big problem with things like croissants, but when cakes and stuff with sticky bottoms are served like this, it drives me insane. Both the purpose of the napkin and the plate has been defeated.

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Zeekreply
lemmy.world

You can 100% eat the tails and I 100% do this

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lemmy.world

Fun fact: The original purpose of parsley on a plate was that it was there for you to eat. Specifically there for you to eat at the end of a meal as a breath freshener.

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Skewers and other utensils are obviously OK. Some parts of natural foods can sometimes act like skewers or utensils, too, so that just becomes a normal part of the presentation and eating method. Like cocktail shrimp should still have the tails on, as a little handle.

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zarkanianreply
sh.itjust.works

When I was a little kid, I ate one of those red peppers at a Chinese restaurant. I didn't know that you were supposed to pick them out. This probably explains my love of spicy food.

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You were supposed to not eat those? Well, I figured, I'm not obligated to eat everything if I want less spicy, but I never thought that those are decorative

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Bobreply
feddit.nl

I wouldn't say insane but that's defo against the rules for me. I often have chefs who want us to leave the bellybuttons on cherry tomatoes and I get this mildly niggling feeling because I read a few years ago that they're poisonous.

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They're not. Trust me, my niece ate almost nothing except grape/cherry tomatoes for the first 4 years of her life, she'd never have made it. I've personally eaten whole cherry tomatoes more days than I haven't in the last month and I feel great.

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lemmy.world

You now have me wondering if the killer tomatoes in Attack of the Killer Tomatoes are venomous.

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lemmy.world

Can you direct me to any sort of source on that? I did a brief search, and I see some information about toxins found in tomato plants in general, (mostly stems, leaves, and green/unripe tomatoes), but nothing that specifically discusses a higher concentration in the "belly button" (I assume you mean the core/where the stem connects?) vs. the rest of the fruit.

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Bobreply

Well like I say, I just read it somewhere a few years ago, and I've just had a brief search myself and found the same thing as you basically.

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On cherry tomatoes they’re so tiny it doesn’t really matter. You can even eat the stems in larger tomatoes once in a while (though it tastes bad), the amount of solanine left is miniscule. On ripe tomatoes that is.

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Chrisreply
lemmy.world

Yeah I eat the tail. I don't see anything wrong.

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In my case, I think it's because when my siblings and I were kids, we only got to eat the tail because my parents wouldn't get shrimp for us but for themselves and then not eat the tail which we would.

I mean, I am insane, but that's not why.

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Ookami38reply
sh.itjust.works

I have no opinion on eating the tail of the shrimp with the rest of it. The concept of ordering or cooking shrimp, eating the flesh, and then giving someone else the tail is absolutely INSANE to me. It sounds like a bit from a sitcom.

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lemmy.zip

No, the thread is about the crunchy bit. With cocktail shrimp I find it's better to squeeze the meat out but when the shrimp is cooked and covered in sauce a lot of times I just find it less of a pain to get the meat out alone (especially if they leave the whole shell on after removing only the head and legs).

I didn't use to eat the shell but after moving to Asia I ended up caring a lot less about whether I eat it or not. I also have other lazy/weird food opinions though-- like I'll just eat the whole kiwi if im too lazy to go get a knife and spoon-- so maybe that plays into it as well

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…but still edible. I usually alternate between eating kiwi whole and with a spoon ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Are you sure the parental abuse isn't why? Not even a little?

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For various reasons, I'm calling the authorities... ALL of them.

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lemmy.world

So... Hey Lemmy.... Does everybody wanna meet this dude?

Dude's everywhere. We need to meet this dude.

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lemmy.world

Not only does pineapple belong on pizza, ham & pineapple pizza is the only pizza that is consistent in all three states: fresh and hot, cold, and reheated.

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I despise when people are food traditionalists. If we listened to them, we'd still be eating like British people.

I grew up in El Salvador listening to people insist that only beans, cheese and pork go in pupusas. Otherwise it's a sin! Well the young people now make them with everything you can think of from shrimp to sweet potato and it's incredible.

You don't like pineapple on pizza don't eat it

To add my personal opinion. New York/North American pizza is better than Italian pizza

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discuss.tchncs.de

The reason why it's good when reheated is the moisture in the pineapple. It keeps the dough from becoming a rock formation when reheating.

For non-pineapple pizza, adding a bowl of water into the microwave has the same effect.

That said, the argument is not whether pineapple is good on pizza or not, ofc it is, everything is good on pizza. But is it the best topping? No, that's anchovies and capers (olives are good too).

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discuss.tchncs.de

The good thing about liking pizza that everyone finds disgusting is that you never have to share.

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T00l_shedreply
lemmy.world

Hmmm while I agree about Hawaiian pizza, I will say that cheese pizza shares the properties of consistency of all 3 states.

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Mesopharreply
lemm.ee

I also love some pineapple on pizza, but a plain cheese pizza is my favorite

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T00l_shedreply
lemmy.world

So burn me at the stake, like you did to you taste (for pizza)

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lemmy.world

My wife eats the tail. She's Japanese, that's normal. I don't though, so please no tails mixed in...

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vorticreply
lemmy.world

Hah, my Japanese wife has convinced me to eat them too. I eat about 50% of them now.

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taiyangreply
lemmy.world

More power to ya! What about natto? She tried to get me to like it but I can't tolerate the smell. I found it's a very easy lunch for my 2 year old who loves it, though.

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Mix in a little mustard and some tare sauce. I didn't like it at first but the taste just seems earthy to me now. I also don't really eat it with rice. Either in those fish sausage tube things or alone on a spoon (which also cuts down on the stringy trails you have to deal with).

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Yeah, no, I don't like the smell, taste, or texture. I have made natto for her in an instant pot, though. She said it came out okay but I still didn't eat it!

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lemmy.world

Alright, I'm off to search what nutrients shrimp tails have now.

Couldn't find much. Most everything I found is that they are mostly chitin and they have fiber, omega 3's, and no real break downs of nutritional facts. Lots of recommendations to just fry them, and one that said to save the tails/exoskeletons and put them in the freezer to turn into a stock. Lots of "just fry the whole thing". I rarely eat shrimp, but maybe I'll try the stock and then drain, season/cornstarch and fry the tails at some point to see if they can be made to taste like spicy shrimp chips?

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Possibly. I've eaten fried-brim-tail and it was pretty much like a seafood potato chip (just be careful of tiny bones). I could see getting down with some crunchy shrimp tails. Maybe my body is just craving some fiber (and/or fiber-like) sustenance, but I can see the merit. Hell, if it's edible and tasty, then I'm 'bout it. Maybe it's a texture thing?

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Im_oldreply
lemmy.world

Look up "spaghetti allo scoglio", basically spaghetti with various shelfish (and other sea food). They leave all the shells on by design. They also bring a separate empty plate on the side to dump them in, and a wet (lemon) wipe to clean yourself after. Cleaning the molluscs from the shells it's basically part of enjoying the plate. And it's good!

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I'm sure the dish is delicious. But when I go to a restaurant and I have to do work to eat to food, I always get annoyed. I'm paying for this meal so I don't have to work, dammit.

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telllosreply
lemmy.world

What about shrimp tempura with the head, are you supposed to eat it?

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slrpnk.net

I eat the tail too. Not because of cultural reasons, but because lazy AF and ain't nobody got time to separate them.

Its also why I dont eat fish that isn't deboned.

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taiyangreply
lemmy.world

Ah, that logic sounds like you eat strawberries with the leaves still attached because you can't be bothered to remove them, haha.

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I just eat the whole plant. I can't be bothered taking all the strawberries off one by one.

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lemmy.ca

Hicks and Newt had to die in the beginning of Alien 3 in order for the film to thematically even be an Alien film.

At their heart, the films are about Ripley being alone, more in common with the titular alien than with her termporary allies. She's an outsider in her crew. She's a civilian among marines. She's a woman among convicts. She's lost her child, she's lost 57 years of her life. The Alien is her only real touchstone now, and in a way that is very expressly shown in the films, that becomes a kind of "relationship" in itself. She's closer to the alien than she is to the people who surround her.

If Hicks and Newt survived and were part of Alien 3, it takes that away and makes it an ensemble cast, which thematically doesn't fit, and (I think) it's one of the reasons that a lot of the new Alien films just don't feel like Alien films; they're missing that key thematic ingredient. Ripley is a tragic character, doomed to battle alone against the only thing she has left in her life.

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mPonyreply
lemmy.world

I defend this position. Still, they should have given those characters better deaths.

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they should have given those characters better deaths

That I absolutely agree with. They did 'em dirty with how they took them out.

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lemmy.ca

Aliens also didn't thematically fit with the first Alien. As the title indicates, there are many aliens not an alien that was alone. Burke was also a civilian, so Ripley was not the lone civilian. And at the end of the movie she was not alone unlike in the first one. Well I guess Jonesy made it out ok, so she wasn't alone at the end of the first one either.

Aliens was not thematically consistent with the first one and that's what made it great. There really isn't a mystery about the Alien and how dangerous it is after the first one so trying to recreate it wouldn't work. So instead of working class people being forced into a situation they didn't understand and weren't prepared for, we see a group of well armed soldiers going into a situation they were briefed on. This time the humans are going to kick ass! Except no, they get their asses to them. And themes about motherhood can be added (both for Ripley and the Aliens).

Alien 3 wasn't entirely thematically consistent either. I do remember it exploring some themes about religion (it's been a long time since I watched it tho) which is something the previous movies didn't go into. Also Ripley dies at the end which inconsistent with the theme of survival.

To me story is more important than themes anyway. If Ripley has to be alone at the beginning of every movie it makes the story of her character really boring.

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Slovenereply
feddit.nl

Are Ripley and the alien in a situationship?

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lemmy.ca

The Xenomorph has been the only constant in her life throughout the entire franchise. Everyone else is temporary. So basically...yes...in so much as a nemesis can be a situationship.

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This is a real thing people do. My wife is one of them. I tried it; it's not as bad as you'd think, but I'd still rather not.

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I like a crisp fried tail it's baller, but in like pasta it's just hard to eat for no real flavor or textural payoff

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Venat0rreply
lemmy.world

It's more that why would you want to eat it?

Do you also eat the bones when you get other meats?

Do you eat the skin of bananas or oranges?

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NovaPrimereply
lemmy.ml

Vegetarian here so can't answer for the meat and bones, but absolutely on the fruit and veggie front. Peels have a ton of nutrients, texture, and flavour

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lemmy.world

Bro you eat banana skins? Just biting into that shit like it’s an apple?

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I do haha. I know it sounds gross to a lot of people, but once you get over the mental block of "only the fruit inside is food" that most of us are raised with, they're actually quite tasty. You can dry them out and make a tasty snack too if you don't want to raw dog them

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I know lemon and orange peels have a lot of flavor because I'll scrape a bit for "lemon zest" in some dishes. It however, does not mean I eat the peels.

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Tikiporchreply
lemmy.world

No one is arguing whether peels have nutrients. Do you eat banana peels and citrus rinds? That seems highly unlikely as they're not palatable.

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Yes, I do. That's what I was saying I'm my comment above. And just because you perceive them as highly unpalatable, does not mean thst everyone else does too.

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lemm.ee

This is Korea. For whatever reason every single animal they consume that has unpleasant bits inside, they leave em in. Bony fish, bony chicken, grisly pork, soup full of shelled shellfish, and shrimp with tails. Hell, frequently entire shrimp head and all. Also locally where I live they have these different shrimp that have I dunno extra tough and sharp carapace. They don't even try to shuck those things.

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

I've had similar experiences with SE Asian cuisine. They just don't seem to have the same standards for butchering and meat preparation that we do in the West. Hell, I know of one SE Asian culture that doesn't even have any sort of defined meat cuts. They just chop it all up into big chunks. Doesn't matter what part of the animal it is, it's getting chopped up into big bits.

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lemm.ee

Oh definitely. It wasn't that long ago there were some pretty hard times here. The older generation remembers.

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

All of us who are old enough to have grown up around depression era survivors in the United States are familiar with that too.

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My grandma is over 100 and still licks the plate clean after eating. Things like that get ingrained with you

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lemmy.world

My mom was born during the Great Depression and re-uses ziplock bags. On the other hand, she insists on brand-name everything instead of generics or store brands, so it's not purely about frugality.

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Krauerkingreply
lemy.lol

Yeah but name brands mean you buy it once and it doesn't fail as often, is the argument for that I get from those of that generation.

And I mean I get it. Buy a cheap pair of shoes or a good pair and you will realize you will go through 3 of the cheap pairs at half price compared to buying 1 good pair.

Though less so with each passing year since name brands are designed to fail now too.

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ChexMaxreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, I'm 30 and I feel like I've never had the experience of being able to rely on a name brand consistently. Everything seems to fall apart. Sometimes you get something great, but when it comes time to replace it and you buy the exact same thing from the exact same company it comes at a much lower quality

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Its so fricking hard to find the trustworthy brands.

I'm honestly just so willing to not have any brand loyalty and to suffer with making a bad pick that I have to return or fix myself, I constantly having to re-find what is considered actually good quality.

The answer is a lot of name brand in the higher price range but not so high that it's just for padding a contractor's quote and percent take home is still good quality. And you can never go for the same model twice if the company is doing constant refreshes cause those are with cheaper components every time. (Allowance for first refresh fixing a flaw)

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Ironically, it was about 30 years ago that brand names started really leaning into shrinkflation, and enshitification, riding off the merits of their previously good name.

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When someone does not like garlic bread, Allah Willing, they shall know no happiness, and shall not live long.

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None of the doom and gloom really matters, every human in history has lived in a time of crisis. How we handle the challenges at hand determine the challenges for those that follow, but panicking about it is a waste of energy.

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The QWERTY-type keyboard is a dated relic, especially in the electronic era, where there aren't physical mechanisms to jam because you pushed the buttons too quickly.

This is particularly applicable to touch screens, where the format is particularly ill-suited, and ought to be replaced by something more suitable and intuitive.

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It probably breaks mostly along line of if you played it at release. As only the 2nd game, it's not like they'd established a formula that felt quintessentially Zelda at that point. I remember it feeling like a decent game that was just doing something different from the 1st one.

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It does depend what you consider "the whole series."

Does Tingle RPG count? Does Link's Crossbow Training?

Other questions that probably wouldn't matter for best or worst game in the series, but would for a complete ranking might be whether remakes/remasters count as separate games or not and if not, do we judge on the basis of the remaster or the original? (Either way, all the remasters are inferior to the originals. Maybe that's my most radical, non-left-right position. That and Breath of the Wild was better than Tears of the Kingdom.)

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lemm.ee

Same with meat on the bone for me. Like... I love a biryani, but it's so much better when the chicken/lamb is boneless. I get that the bone imparts some flavor, but I don't think it's worth the effort and mess.

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bss03reply
infosec.pub

Anything I can't eat with my hands, should not be covered in a sauce that I don't want on my hands.

Fried shrimp with tails = fine. Bone-in chicken legs = fine. Bone-in chicken in biryani = not ordering. Shrimp with tail in pasta = sin against god and crime against humanity.

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lemmy.world

Buffalo wings violate that rule and I'm not prepared to give them up.

For me, the rule would be: if it's a dish meant to be eaten with utensils, don't include inedible parts that have to be separated by hand.

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bss03reply
infosec.pub

Ribs. I don't mind saucy ribs. I suppose if you are supposed to use your hands, maybe it's okay if they get a bit saucy.

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Yeah I think that's the big thing: don't have a dish that requires shifting from utensil to fingers and back... especially if there's sauce.

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I don't really like buffalo wings. I know boneless wings are basically just "nuggies", but I prefer them, especially if things are getting saucy.

A dry spice blend can make for acceptable wings, but I actually still prefer something like a spicy breading and a bigger piece of chicken, if I'm going to have to deal with bones.

But, I will admit that is a good border case, and isn't quite the sin that shrimp w/ tail covered in cream sauce is.

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lemmy.world

Aliens, first observing croutons: Humans enjoy mixing hard, crunchy toasted objects into salads.

Aliens, first observing shrimp in salads, furiously crushing out the first line: Humans don't like hard, crunchy salad ingredients.

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guy eating salad: I wish this hurt

guy who invented croutons: have I got something for you

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I once had pasta with whole mussels mixed in. Could never be too sure my next bite wouldn't have a big chunk of shell in it. Shit was expensive for what it was too, they definitely could have paid some guy just to stand there in the kitchen and remove the shells as it goes onto the plate for what we were paying. Not a radical opinion this just reminded me of it.

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Souls games should have an easy mode and it’s fine if only the original hard mode is a well balanced experience. I just want to have fun and enjoy the view.

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lemm.ee

We're fucked. We're probably witnessing the last decade of relative stability.

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lemmy.world

People have been saying this for thousands of years, though. In some cases, they weren't even wrong to think it. But for a country as wealthy and well insulated and exhaustively policed as the average Western state?

Come on. We don't even have COVID era crime rates, much less the lead /cocaine fueled crime bonanzas of the 1970s and 80s.

Relative to what? The Great Depression? The Civil War? The collapse of the Aztec Empire?

We're a blip on the radar.

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Venerosoreply
lemmy.world

Climate refugees are going to turn the "migrant crime" rhetoric into overdrive. My opinion, but it's clearly the Boogeyman that Fascism is rallying against. There are great swaths of land that are experiencing temperatures and severe weather that are incompatible with human life.

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Bold of you to assume I hail from land of bacon and guns. If I come to your land I'll be seen as someone who eats cats. So either way I'm in shit.

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lemmy.world

Blindly supporting the Two-Party System, and bullying those who don't, is anti-American. It will only lead to fascism.

EDIT - @chaogomu provided quality information on how to actually work with US voting and how to make a difference. Arrow's Impossibility Theorem and https://equal.vote

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lemmy.world

No one supports the two party system. We recognize it exists and work within it to change it. But it's designed to not change, so it's hard.

Stomping your feet and voting third party for president is performative at best, disingenuous at worst.

Local elections, vote third party if you want.

Is that bullying? I lost track of the line between facts and harassment.

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Th3BFGreply
lemmy.world

Voting for and propping up bad politicians is support. You were doing great until you said, "Stomping your feet...". That's devaluation of a position you don't agree with and defamation of the opinion haver all in one. It's generally considered bullying. Just consider if everyone who shared your view voted third party instead of voting for a Republican in Democrats clothing?

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Statfishreply
lemmy.world

Easy to be idealist when you never hold office. 3rd parties never have to show where they would comprise, because they are not running for these higher offices in a meaningful way.

The republican agenda is so profoundly awful, and the US electorate has not yet resoundly rejected it. Meanwhile, we're too busy "trying to send a message" to recognize that the democrats are the only party even marginally open to progressive policies. Depending on where you live, there are a lot of groups pushing for election reform, and many places where that will be on the ballot. Get involved, help make that change happen...but you can do that and also flush the big orange turd.

How did I get dragged into this in a joke thread??

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Th3BFGreply
lemmy.world

If you're never given a seat at the table, then how can they talk about their compromises? I agree with a good portion of what you said. I wasn't trying to fight people, but it did ask for "Radical Ideas" lol.

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I agree that only focusing on national elections is not good. A quick search will show that there are independent and third party representatives though, so while some candidates fall short, cough Jill Stein cough I would hope not all are discounted.

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Statfishreply
lemmy.world

Yeah, it'd be great to see more 3rd party candidates in down ballot races. Should your first seat at the table nationally be the presidency?

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It wouldn't be the first seat. A quick search shows that there are independent and third-party representatives. I agree though.

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chaogomureply
lemmy.world

It is literally to have a viable third party under First Past the Post. It boils down to Duverger's law. Or more broadly Arrow's Impossibility Theorem

We need to focus on the actual voting system before we can start generating and supporting Third Parties.

Specifically we need a cardinal voting system. It's literally the only way to gain viable third parties that are not just extensions of the major two.

Sadly it's too late to get voting reform on any more ballots this year.

But you can still get involved.

https://www.equal.vote/

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Th3BFGreply
lemmy.world

I know there is the Ranked Choice Voting concept which sounds appealing. I'll read on this too. Thank you for the information!

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chaogomureply
lemmy.world

Ranked Choice is an Ordinal voting system that fails Arrow's Theorem.

In some rare cases, it can produce a result even worse than First Past the Post. There are a bunch of flaws in RCV, because it was invented before mathematical evaluation was as robust as it is these days.

Simulation, and some unfortunate real world examples, show that if you vote in and election with at least three somewhat viable candidates, and keep strategy in mind, you can rate your preferred candidate second and improve their chances of winning.

No voting system should be able to do this. RCV has more flaws in addition to this already game breaking one.

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OK, Ill keep that in mind. I need to read more. Thank you for the education, I know it isn't your responsibility.

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lemmy.world

No, that's not how our system works.

In our system you never vote FOR anyone. You are always voting AGAINST the worst candidate. That is literally how it is set up. That is the definition of a two party system.

Voting against a worst candidate is not propping up that system. Because one of those candidates is going to win either way due to the electoral college.

If everyone, literally everyone, that was Democrat decided to vote Green, then they'd still lose. Again, electoral college. Nevermind the fact that getting everyone to do it is literally impossible.

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Th3BFGreply
lemmy.world

What you described is also not how our system works. The Electoral College does what it pleases. See the elections from 2016, 2000, etc. I do agree that the EC is a major issue in this.

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That too. Faithless electors are a train wreck waiting to happen. some states have laws thankfully, but not all, and that's a huge issue.

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Magnergyreply
lemmy.world

Everyone should just ignore their actual incentives. Wow. What a wonderful solution to collective action problems; why didn't anyone ever think of that before? Come on. I don't believe you are that stupid.

They gave facts and you dismiss them with a label because of a little ridicule? Your ending suggestion doesn't even do the job... we can grant you the impossible, sure all those people vote third party. Result, still a loss, and their least preferred major party wins. Whoops, all those voters we granted you picked different third parties. Because as little as they barely agreed on preferring one of the major parties, they agree on a ranking of the "third parties" even less. If you ask for us to grant the impossible, at least make it one that would work.

This is currently a multi-tiered 170,000,000 people system we are discussing. History and mathematics are against simplistic appeals for quick changes. Propose childish thinking, and it is little wonder you get ridiculed as acting childish.

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Th3BFGreply
lemmy.world

Your post is a prime example. i didn't dismiss what they said. I pointed out where I disagreed with their concept of support, pointed out what bullying is, and then asked a consideration. I don't need you to agree with me. I just was asking for consideration of a concept. Your generalized dismissal is enough.

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Magnergyreply
lemmy.world

I presented a position on the topic. You ignored it in favor of discussing my comment's tone.

As for the concept, I considered it decades ago. The math was the same then as now, and time has only added those decades of supporting evidence.

Ridicule of the ridiculous is warranted. And characterizing ignoring the reality of political systems as stomping one's foot is the mildest of ridicule. It isn't bullying. If you weren't dismissing the facts in surewhynotlem's comment, then I'm glad you accept them.

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Your position was not ignored. You spent your first paragraph insulting me, that isn't tone. I'm reading on the math you mentioned to better educate myself regardless of your "tone".

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lemmy.world

Jesus, it's always "bullying" when people get told the consequences of their choice. You don't need to believe in politics, it will still fuck you over. A lot of people don't have the luxury of not participating because they aren't spoiled white suburbanites able to just hide from the consequences of ignoring how their country functions.

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I think you missed the point of my comment. Detailing consequences is not the issue, losing the plot is. I'll work on my delivery for the future. I agree with your overall statement though.

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SeaJreply
lemm.ee

Do people blindly support it? I live with it and vote accordingly but I also advocate for alternative voting methods. People voting third party do not fully understand that our first past the post system makes it so their candidate has no chance.

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SeaJreply

There is a difference between undesirable corner cases and the garbage that is first past the post. Changing it to even ranked choice increases engagement and how politicians politic. So changing the voting system does indeed help a whole host of problems. There are obviously some other things that need to change like having publicly funded elections, increasing the House of Representatives and having multi member districts, making the Electoral College obsolete, etc.

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midwest.social

As far as I can tell the incrementalist argument goes like this:

  1. The two-party system is destroying the country.
  2. But one of the two parties will destroy democracy imminently, so we have to vote for the lesser evil this time, and then,
  3. ...
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  1. The two-party system is destroying the country.
  2. Resoundly reject the party that is actively pushing for a weird christofascist state. <-- the us electorate has not yet done this!
  3. Actively push for election reform <-- AK, AZ, CO, DC, ID, MT, NV, OR, and SD will all have ballet initiatives this November regarding election reform. VOTE!
  4. Get involved with organizations that are moving to further the causes you care about, and get active in politics.

Voting for president is the smallest part of civic participation, not the end-all-be-all

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We need work to end the two party system, NOT work that demonizes people for making rational choices under current circumstances.

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And primaries are the "real" elections to get us there. General elections will continue to be major party A vs. major party B, with a "this is the most important election ever" backdrop, while primaries are where we have to try to get our important issues (like election reform) carried by generally electable candidates to get those issues injected into the parties.

And the amount of money spent on primaries confirms how influential they are capable of being.

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Given that the previous one actually did try to steal an election it actually has merit. I wasn't worried about republicans before Trump. I just thought they were dicks.

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Right?? I love shrimp but I hate eating things with my hands. No matter the dish, I pull those tails off and I know how to do it without losing any meat. I can't stand tails on shrimp as I'm trying to eat

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fedia.io

Every single one of us is to blame for the state of the world.

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mPonyreply
lemmy.world

yes, but to astronomically variable degrees.

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Thank you for being realistic. Many people hear "blame" and immediately think in binary "I'm completely to blame".

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Magnergyreply
lemmy.world

I think you might be letting the dead off too easy just using the current population. You think we all just fell out of a coconut tree?

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atro_cityreply
fedia.io

If you're living in a Western country, odds are your consumption is double or triple of somebody in the global south, so you can up that a little. If you're wealthier, you can up that even more. It's not directly proportional to consumption, but that does play a bigger role.

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lemmy.world

I pay excessive money at a restaurant to ensure I have to do no work and everything within reason is edible. If this is not the case when I get it, I love nothing more than sending it back, and if I don't think they'll not mess with my food or give me any attitude I will leave and they'll eat the loss (and maybe the tails).

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Agent641reply
lemmy.world

To this end, korean bbq is a fucking scam. You have to cook the food yourself. It's so stressful.

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Nah it’s fun to do with friends. The restaurant marinates and prepares everything. The food cooks fast.

It’s like saying fondue places are shitty. Their prices might be but the experience isn’t.

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You think so? I only did it once, but I had fun. It was way too expensive for the novelty though.

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Amusingly as I was reading this comment thread my room service arrived and it had shrimp with the tails buried in pasta.

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That's basically how I eat spaghetti, except I use my teeth once the fork is in my mouth.

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explodiclereply
sh.itjust.works

You just poke a bunch of it with the fork until a suitable amount is stuck between the tines, and then you don't have a long tail of pasta that's trying to get sauce all over your shirt.

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PlaidBaronreply
lemmy.world

As someone with rich Italian heritage, you disgust me. May god have mercy on your soul.

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slrpnk.net

As Americans, we should eat more meat organs. The amount of Americans who get excited by eating a chicken leg but then get disgusted at eating the chicken gizzard is too high.

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Aceticonreply
lemmy.world

Looking at my own country and other countries I've lived in, I think it's to do with poverty or at least recent poverty - Portugal was very poor back in before the Revolution in 74 and still now it's far more common around here to eat all those parts of animals (and, curiously, one of my favorite dishes is a local version of tripe) than that I noticed in The Netherlands and the UK (though the Scots do have the famous Haggis).

The funny thing is that nowadays at least some of those things have been found to be quite healthy to eat.

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Clbullreply
lemmy.world

We have a traditional dish in the UK which are meatballs made from minced pork liver and heart, mixed with bacon, onion and breadcrumbs. Unfortunately, I cannot name this dish because it shares the same name as a homophobic slur but they are known as "ducks" in Yorkshire, Lincolnshire and Lancashire.

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Steak and kidney pie also a classic. Liver and bacon as well.

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lemmy.world

I had to look up the recipe to figure out the slur you were alluding to...yikes. I don't blame you for not repeating the name here.

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Clbullreply
lemmy.world

Another fun fact, the shortened version of that slur (word that rhymes with 'rag') is what we call cigarettes.

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Aceticonreply
lemmy.world

And yet, curiously, they're not shipped from Portugal to France even though it's not all that much farther way than England.

If it was all about the price being high in France then surely the Portuguese slaughterhouses would be shipping that stuff there, not selling it to butchershops in Portugal.

I think you might be confusing cause and consequence: it's not that the Brits and Dutch can't eat that stuff because it all gets shipped to France as the prices are higher there, it's that because the Brits and Dutch are not eating that stuff the prices are lower in Britain and The Netherlands than in France (were they do eat that stuff) so it mostly gets shipped to France. This latter hypothesis does explain why a country were people do eat that stuff and with lower purchasing power than France does in fact have that stuff available locally rather than it all having been exported to France.

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You don’t see much organ meats in the Netherlands and the UK much because they are shipped to France where the price is high (and being a part of the EU, the isn’t any extra taxes for that). It’s market choices, not dietary, combined with they were never a huge desire for them there.

You literally said it's high prices in France driving exports from The Netherlands and Britain hence as you literally said the market drives the diet

because the Brits and Dutch are not eating that stuff the prices are lower in Britain and The Netherlands than in France (were they do eat that stuff) so it mostly gets shipped to France

I literally said it's dietary habits driving the Market, the very opposite. It's extraordinary that you think I "repeated what you said" unless you're just counting words, rather than reading the actual sentences.

Your Market-driven Dietary Habits theory is wholly inconsistent with the situation of Portugal since those French prices you claimed were so high they drove exports from The Netherlands and Britain (the latter not even a Single Market member) changing their local dietary habits would definitely cause those products to be exported from Portugal (were people have lower purchasing power and prices for food are definitely lower than France) also, also changing dietary habits in Portugal, which has not happened.

Your vague claims of "local market" are grounded on nothing but wishful thinking and ignorance: Portugal is part of the Single Market and very close to France, a situation than has no comparison at all with Asia - it literally takes less than a day to ship something by truck from anywhere in Portugal to anywhere in France and it doesn't even have to be subject to any border controls or phytosanitary checks as meat products coming from Britain would - post-Brexit it's literally easier to export animal products to France from Portugal than from Britain even though the distance as the crow flies is less for the latter.

If Polish beef can be found in Portuguese supermarkets then chicken giblets would definitely make their way to France if prices were high enough there compared to Portugal to justify the 1000 or so miles of hauling by refrigerated truck, and yet one can find them along with all kinds of animal innards in supermarkets and butchers in Portugal, even in those outside the larger cities were prices are lower.

In some cases (such as for example Cow and Pig liver) those things aren't even cheaper than good quality meat cuts in Portugal, and yet people still buy them hence butchers and supermarkets still stock them.

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lemmy.world

I recently saw some packaged chicken sausages that said "all white meat" and I was confused.

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Slovenereply
feddit.nl

Except with that delicious billionaire meat.

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Absolutely! Also, I can’t stand ordering whole crab at a restaurant. I just want the meat without the hassle of cracking open the legs and body, getting my hands dirty, slurping all over, and dealing with the mess. Someone should handle that in the kitchen. I can boil a crab at home if I want to work to get the food out.

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The shrimp tail is nothing, but when the intestine is left in the shrimp, that bothers me!

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Maybe radical, maybe not, I don't know. Instagram has a policy of no nudity, with some exceptions. A notable one is for breastfeeding, which has led to this weird category on Instagram of... I guess it's Breastfeeding Porn, I don't know what else to call it (?). It's bizarre because the videos being made are obviously meant to just show off naked boobs... but with young children in them. So, IMO, it's dipping its toes into exploitation, but because it's technically "breastfeeding" it's perfectly fine with Instagram. It's this weird situation where, showing your tits in a video by yourself is considered "offensive" or not safe for children... unless you film your tits out with a child in the video. Honestly, they should just allow all nudity via some sort of gatekeeping program or something that tries to keep kids from viewing it, but the breastfeeding exception has just created a weird porn sub-genre.

And I'm sure there's legitimate reasons why somebody would take a video of themselves breastfeeding, maybe for instructional purposes for other mothers or something, whatever, I'm sure that's a thing and I'm not knocking that. And I know breastfeeding creates a strong bond between mother and child, it's a normal, natural thing that happens, I get that, but these videos in particular don't seem to have any purpose that I can make out. These videos are just women staring at the camera, their tits hanging out and off to the side is some kid greedily suckling on one boob. If this is such a sacred relationship between mother and infant, shouldn't it be kept private? Sure, women can breastfeed in public because they literally have to feed their child.... but broadcasting it to the world doesn't seem like a necessary part of that.

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More pizza is good in all three states than is not true, pineapple isn't special in this regard. Wood fired crust isn't good cold.

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My radical opinion is that the left-right political spectrum isn't real. It's all really arbitrary like the Big Endians and Little Endians from Gulliver's Travels. We've decided one group is left and one is right. When an issue comes up, one group takes a position and the other group feels like they need to oppose it. Depending on which group supports an issue and where we decided that group is on the spectrum, that's where we put that issue.

But most issues are way more complicated to fit on a one dimensional line. Many problems are completely orthogonal to politics. Global warming for example is a scientific thing. More CO2 in the atmosphere, more warming. Gotta get that CO2 level down or we're going to have serious problems. Where does that fit on a spectrum? We just plop it onto the "left" part because the parties on the "left" tend to want to do something about it.

Foreign policy doesn't really fit on a spectrum since it's all around the interests of the country. Who should we be allies with and who are our adversaries? That's largely dependent on what those other countries are doing isn't it? But gotta put it on a spectrum, so I guess this war the left wing supports and this other war the right wing wing supports.

Ultimately ideology is for the intellectually lazy. Don't want to think about individual issues in-depth so just consider a few, sign on to whichever ideology is the closest fit, and go along with whatever the ideology says about anything else. The left-right spectrum is a rationalization for this, making it seem commonplace for people to be a dot on a line to feel justified in going along with whoever is on the same part in that line.

But it's just a construct. Issues are more complicated than that, and two people that agree completely on one issue may completely disagree on another. Because there really is no political spectrum. It's something that only exists in a poli sci classroom and doesn't really mean anything anywhere else. Why would anyone want to be a dot on a line anyway?

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Siethronreply
lemmy.world

You asked for my most radical opinion.

It's an ADHD texture thing, the texture of onions does not mesh with any other food (maybe edible paper?), so it's always jarring to bite an onion while eating food.

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Apeman42reply
lemmy.world

I'm with you when the onions are raw. Cooked, the texture is tolerable enough that the taste is worth it IMO. Though I do prefer them chopped small or sliced thin no matter what.

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Props my dude. Don't feel ashamed by that!

I got a coworker who cannot stand ruffle chips. Like, not just the texture, but the sound it makes grinding on each other.

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My brother is the same but he has always been „problematic“ with all greens. He at least tried it and I think had a bad experience due to wrong cooking, so now he has a trauma of some kind, I don’t know. Onions can have so many different textures depending on if or how they are cooked. If it doesn’t fit with the rest of the food, it was probably prepared wrong.

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Onions don't belong on pizza. They are great for plenty of other things like burgers and hotdogs... but never ever pizza yuk!

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