While courts have ruled source code is first amendment protected. Your statement is still very very wrong. Just because it's first amendment protected doesn't mean it can't be classified normally or made illegal to leak because of ITAR.
But go leak some of the source code from XKeyscore or a schematic of a pair of GPNVG if you'd like to test our code classification and ITAR systems.
I'm not taking about sealing some government secrets. I'm taking about building a fun hobby project with some sort of targeting system. Think a small rocket that drops a payload or a water balloon launcher.
Okay but that has no relevance at all to what the comment you were replying to was about. Companies contracted by the government and DOD specifically to create rockets are guaranteed to be covered by ITAR. Meaning open sourcing them would be impossible, regardless of the first amendment or anything else.
There's a massive massive difference between the software for a DOD contracted rocket like SpaceX makes, and hobbyist rocketry.
We gotta figure out a better way than strapping ourselves to a continuously exploding bomb and pulling some serious Gs for 8 minutes.
Wonder how some of those SSTO space plane projects are doing...there was a British one I can't remember. Used hybrid air-breathing scramjets, switching to internal oxidizer once it was going fast and high enough.
Space planes carry along heavy-as-fuck wings, control surfaces and a lot of other bullshit that's only useful inside the atmosphere, and which massively increase fuel consumption for every single maneuver while your space plane is actually where you want it to do stuff - in space. And the only benefit is that the atmosphere helps lift and fuel your vehicle to about 10% of orbital velocity. The other 90% it will have to accelerate just like any other rocket.
The SpaceX approach is much better: Land and reuse all parts of your rocket, but don't carry them with you further than where they're useful. Rockets leave the atmosphere where wings would work within a few minutes anyway.
Why not. If everyone has it, everyone will be afraid to use it, because they know everyone else has it, but what they don't know is how many have developed a working prototype.
I've been using Ubuntu for about 3, years now on the desktop and I don't know what you're talking about. Where exactly is that prompt?
And they're not hiding updates behind pro, it's just extra on top of the updates you'd get on other distros.
Does what? Sign up for ubuntu pro? For that you just need to go to their website and register. For the homelab stuff you could start small - maybe a linux nas with a few VMs for a pihole or something.
Funny Gentoo actually was my gateway to arch. Loved the customizability of Gentoo and the rolling release model.
But building Chrome and Firefox (I needed both for work reasons sometimes) every update was the nail in the coffin. Switched to Arch and didn't miss a thing.
Maybe nowadays, with Elon's imbecility so publicly visible.
I've run Arch for close to 10 years, and was pretty jazzed by Musk in the early days of his presiding over Tesla and Space X. Then again, I was barely an adult at the time, and I hadn't yet come across the first reports of terrible working conditions and his overall shittyness as a manager/exec.
A lot of people forget how overwhelmingly, insanely popular Musk was with way too online nerds. He was reddit's golden child for years. Part of this is that whenever Disney started releasing the Marvel movies, beginning with Iron Man, Musk was front and center as the core inspiration for Tony Stark (yes, I'm serious, the director and Robert Downey Jr. basically went on record as saying as much) and he fucking milked that shit. It's also important to understand that for a time he was seen as a forward looking entrepreneur whose business was "going to help save the planet by making electric cars so popular that every car manufacturer would switch to electric vehicle production to keep up." If Musk was a genius at one thing, it was manipulating public perception of himself and his enterprises. It took years of him being a thin-skinned weirdo and massive corporate tool to undo the amount of positive sentiment he'd built for himself and Tesla.
you literally have to run installation script or follow instructions from arch wiki. slap some de to it and you're good. doesn't take a smart person to do.
to properly maintain it for longer periods forever though, takes some more skill.
Chromium was, however, a Google product from the very beginning that Google open-sourced themselves. Linux is too big with too many non-profit and for-profit companies and tons of independent individuals participating in its development for one person or company to control it outright.
I mean, sure, for profit companies like Red Hat, SUSE, Canonical do have some influence but not so much that you can’t ignore their contributions if you don’t like them.
For example, some ubuntu based distros (i.e Mint) circumvent snap from being installed the ubuntu way (without asking) because it goes against their philosophy. And if that’s still too much Ubuntu for you, there’s a Debian Edition of mint. And if that’s still too same-y for you, there are dozens of other distros based on slackware, rhel/fedora, arch, Gentoo, etc. There even are Linux distros without GNU.
So, unless Muskiboy buys Linus Torvalds, I think the Linux community could easily ignore him building his own xOS.
He could always learn it. Maybe go to his local community college and take a programming class. He could take an intro physics class as well. Might help him out.
It's an expression. In this context Elon is the broken clock and saying desktops should run Linux is one of the rare times he's been right about something.
Realistically, he would call it ElonOS, hire a bunch of shitty systems programmers to cobble together a bullshit operating system mostly comprised of code stolen from other open source projects, insist that it be written in python because "python is critical to AI," talk about how the OS integrates with AI seamlessly while having no actual AI in it at all, sell it with a tiered subscription that locked basic functionality, like being able to use the file system, behind a paywall, and then quickly abandon the project and fire everyone involved, having made no real money from the venture but still referring to it as a "triumph of engineering."
If he wants to name it after something he loves, he could name it ApartheidOS, EmeraldMineOS, ApartheidEmeraldMineOS, etc. The possibilities are endless.
He'll get sued by Apple for infringing on their OS X trademark, and he'll invent laws claiming he's in the right, and he'll lose billions, and then he'll claim he invented Linux and he's a genius.
I kind of want to see this go down. There are a few companies you don't fuck with. Apple is definitely one of them. I am sure their lawyers are just as smart and soulless as Disney's
Unfortunately, XOS has already been taken by Infinix, a budget phone brand that primarily sells in Africa, for its own ad-riddled bloated Android skin.
Is it going to be a Ubuntu from though? I can see his engineers coming to him saying we should fork Ubuntu for many very good reasons. Then he does to much ketamine and then tells them to use DistroX, because the X
(I can't actually tell if DistroX is real. I could only find one reference to it. But hey is that going to stop Musk)
As the CEO of Linux, I've had long and intense discussions with Mr Musk about the future of the company if he were to buy it, and I have come to the conclusion that he is a very good and smart businessman. There is no doubt on my mind that our company will thrive under his competent leadership. The Linux Corporation(TM) is therefore proud to announce that we have decided to accept his gracious offer of 69 billion US dollars, payable in $100 Google Play gift cards.
Elon just tries to get approval by finding a dominate opinion among a group of people and parroting back what they say and want. Kinda obvious and pathetic.
I think you are probably right in a way... Remember how android started as a weird Linux kernel (supposedly, rumors ran around at the time)? But today android is a piece of shit that everyone is enslaved on, and Linux still rules. That's because you can't be a dumbass windows user and just become a Linux user overnight. Well I guess it takes like 5 minutes to install, but you might end up frustrated staring at a screen. There's lots to learn before you can get comfortable. Else android....or like me, Ubuntu. Sorry to Linux, but Ubuntu is where I gave up trying to recompile X for the 200th time.
I don't allow lunix in my house because it's an illegal hacker operation system. I can't believe an American hero like Elon would endorse something invented by the notorious Soviet computer hacker Linyos Torovoltos.
I really appreciate Linus trying to tone down the nastiness in his replies over the years, but I'd be willing to let almost anything slide if it means getting a proper, old-school Torvalds tear-down of Musk.
Nothing really. Distros have different goals. Some distros have more access to bleeding edge updates than ubuntu.
Some don't like that ubuntu forces you to use the snap store, which is proprietary, with packages that are larger and run slow and hog a lot of memory compared to other package managers (such as apt)
yeah, many packages now defaults as snaps in ubuntu.
firefox being a single but prominent example, the package on apt simply installs the snap now. You can get around that but you'll have to add mozillas repository. It's Canonical's proprietary thing so I guess it makes sense.
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I still maintain the correct version if the saying is a "stopped" clock. A clock can be broken in other ways that make it almost never right.
Also I'm not sure analog clocks should be considered "regular" at this point. If seems like they're mostly decorative items now, and most actual timekeeping is done with clocks in phones and computers.
i said regular as a qualifier because i was expecting someone to point out niche clocks like a 24-hour one or whatever. plus if we're talking digital clocks the saying falls apart anyway because most of them would just not show anything rather than getting stuck on one time.
I have an analog clock in my man cave. Its very steam punk in design. It is NOT accurate and is ONLY a decoration piece that gets corrected when I can spare the attention. It runs fast, if anyone cares.
Ultimately, my wife liked it, bought it for me, and put it up. Not gonna upset her over something I really don't care about.
I mean I wouldn't mind if he bought a bunch of computer manufacturers and made them switch to Linux. Would be a better use of his money than whatever he's doing with it now.
I her make it all paywall and subscription based. Probably laced with spy tools, new terms of use every few months followed by deactivation for some dumb reason
This thread is focusing on whether he's right, even while being a shithead. The problem IMO is not whether he's right or not, it's what his 'plans' are if the world moves in the direction he starts nudging. Guy's a psycho edgelord pro-fascist with Bond villain tendencies, but he's surfed on trends to carve monopolies before... Idk
If I had to guess, he'd try to find a business selling enterprise supported distributions of Linux, buy them, then try to expand/convert them to develop "consumer Linux". He'd advertise it as getting out from under the thumb of evil corps (ie his competitors), then as soon as it gains even a modicum of traction start implementing privacy violating shit, ads, whatever, to enshittify it as quickly as possible for a quick buck.
If it brings more people and support to the linux ecosystem I say sure, go for it. If more people start using linux, even a corpo version, over windows, doing a "side-grade" is more palatable than a change as severe for most people going from Windows to a FOSS linux, even if it is still unlikely for the non-technically inclined. It may also improve product/software support for linux in general, meaning everyone using linux already would benefit from a mainstream distro existing.
Assuming of course it isn't a total trainwreck that tarnishes the reputation of linux, but even then, would broaden the awareness and discourse for linux so maybe not all bad regardless.
You had a good point though. Even if he does make that enshittified distro, people will see through it and probably be like "wait... I though this is what we were running from in the first place 🤨", and that will in turn lead them to other distros.
Plus the whole traction aspect, more software for Linux, even if it is proprietary, that is what actually keeps users on Windows - their favorite software running natively on Linux.
So, yeah, I was also like "holy shit, hope he doesn't do anything stupid 😬", but you made some fair points, so, I guess... go for it Elon 👍 🤷 😁.
I think he sees the decline of Windows like everyone else. He is in the tech space you know. It is kind of ironic that he is complaining about Microsoft. Tesla has its own issues.
It has been getting a lot of attention the past few years thanks to the enshittification of Windows and Linux being able to run on anything. Also, now it's very usable, even for newer hardware, which wasn't always the case.
Come on bruh, if you're gonna hate on Elon at least make your insults accurate/well-founded. Dude started and runs multiple massive companies, I think he can handle linux mint.
Do teslas run android, or something else? Elon encouraging the use of Linux isn't surprising, but if his vehicles and sattelites we'rent also using Linux, I'd be more surprised.
I like Elon musk (bring me your down votes).He may be billionaire or drag queen or whatever but he does what he wants even beyond loosing everything, he doesn’t give a fuck . Somehow he is authentic. Other billionaires are like rats fearing not loosing a single penny . Electric cars? I love them. Rockets , I played with them when I was kid. A shitty truck ? Yeah I will do it. Buying shit twitter and make my own, yeah why not. I know there are people and countries that are struggling to get food and this guy is doing that, but considering the shitload of extreme and irrational capitalism, have to highlight at least this.
All the childish stuff he does aside, if that wasn't enough, my problem with him is that he's actively promoting fascist and undermining the working class.
This mother fucker has all the money in the world and he's not content to do the kid dream stuff you describe, he's actively helping fascist spread misinformation and is actively fighting against good wages and conditions for the working class.
So yea, fuck Elon and pretty much all of the rest of the billionaires.
This is true, but Elon is actively helping facism. He actively supports fascism. Why did he compared a Jewish Billionaire to some Jewish comic villain? Why does he Actively support the AfD(German extreme Right wing party(that wants to deportate "foreigners" to some African state))? There are more examples, but this are the two I immediately thougjt of.
oh look, its the same time as that stopped clock.
::: spoiler 29.2 tweets a day?
:::
At a rate of 10,658 tweets a year, I'd hope he tweets at least one useful thing
Nope.
The brilliant businessman is clearly hard at work.
Last year's winner was Amber Heard in Overwatch cosplay
Put your money where your mouth is and open source the Tesla software. Do it. I fuckin' dare ya.
Edit: we want Falcon 9's landing guidance software too.
Open sourcing the falcon 9 software would almost definitely be a violation of ITAR.... On second thought it would be fun to see him go to prison.
Nothing could possibly go wrong open sourcing a
misslerocket guidance system...Source code is protected under 1st amendment
That's like saying state secrets are protected under the 1st lol
I don't think it's true
Source code is
While courts have ruled source code is first amendment protected. Your statement is still very very wrong. Just because it's first amendment protected doesn't mean it can't be classified normally or made illegal to leak because of ITAR.
But go leak some of the source code from XKeyscore or a schematic of a pair of GPNVG if you'd like to test our code classification and ITAR systems.
I'm not taking about sealing some government secrets. I'm taking about building a fun hobby project with some sort of targeting system. Think a small rocket that drops a payload or a water balloon launcher.
Okay but that has no relevance at all to what the comment you were replying to was about. Companies contracted by the government and DOD specifically to create rockets are guaranteed to be covered by ITAR. Meaning open sourcing them would be impossible, regardless of the first amendment or anything else.
There's a massive massive difference between the software for a DOD contracted rocket like SpaceX makes, and hobbyist rocketry.
In the U.S., you can build rockets all day long, they cannot be guided.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2332g
You'd have to convince the feds it was never designed to be a weapon. Good luck with that.
I think there has always been and always will be exceptions for military technology.
Oh yeah I forgot about the first anyways the guy who really killed JFK is
No, not just open, free it entirely. License the code under a GPL license.
It'll probably be MIT... just like the rest of the corps.
I want a world where anyone can go to space. It the thing I wanna do the most. But I'm not rich and I'm no super smart and I have awful health.
I know what you mean, but if it’s any consolation, you are in space.
I want to be in space by myself
Blanket fort?
How do you know you aren’t alone?
Because of all the noisy motherfuckers around me all the time.
My dog barks at walls and is constantly reminding me of the inevitability of our ultimate demise.
I’m sure she hears things.
I mean, you right lol
We gotta figure out a better way than strapping ourselves to a continuously exploding bomb and pulling some serious Gs for 8 minutes.
Wonder how some of those SSTO space plane projects are doing...there was a British one I can't remember. Used hybrid air-breathing scramjets, switching to internal oxidizer once it was going fast and high enough.
Edit: here is is and I was mistaken it's not a SCRAMjet https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skylon_(spacecraft)
Space planes carry along heavy-as-fuck wings, control surfaces and a lot of other bullshit that's only useful inside the atmosphere, and which massively increase fuel consumption for every single maneuver while your space plane is actually where you want it to do stuff - in space. And the only benefit is that the atmosphere helps lift and fuel your vehicle to about 10% of orbital velocity. The other 90% it will have to accelerate just like any other rocket.
The SpaceX approach is much better: Land and reuse all parts of your rocket, but don't carry them with you further than where they're useful. Rockets leave the atmosphere where wings would work within a few minutes anyway.
Yeah but...most people's grandparents aren't going to be riding rockets. This isn't sustainable for widespread access to space.
Until we figure out anti gravity, there doesn't seem to be any way around rockets.
Do you really want countries like North Korea, Iran and China having access to software that would certainly be used for missile guidance?
Why not. If everyone has it, everyone will be afraid to use it, because they know everyone else has it, but what they don't know is how many have developed a working prototype.
Ehh, mutually assured destruction has worked so far, but there are some crazy assholes out there who might not act rationally.
Yeah, that is true.
Yes like in America gun violence never happens because everyone has guns.
Hmmm
Careful Linus. This guy may start claiming he is a confounder of Linux any moment now.
Musk certainly is confounding.
What? You didn't know he was Linus's right hand man back the?
Please don’t fucking touch anything to do with Linux Musk. Please.
Crazy, rich South Africans is how we got Ubuntu
But would you like to upgrade to Ubuntu pro?
Ubuntu pro is not at all a bad thing. It's free to consumers but you can also just ignore it if you don't need it.
Can we disable the prompt?
The ssh prompt? I think you just need to mess with the files in /etc/update-motd.d
The prompt on the desktop that says there and pending updates that can only be installed with Pro.
I've been using Ubuntu for about 3, years now on the desktop and I don't know what you're talking about. Where exactly is that prompt? And they're not hiding updates behind pro, it's just extra on top of the updates you'd get on other distros.
It’s free?
It is for up to 5 devices, so small-scale homelab stuff can be covered without cost.
How tf does one do that
Does what? Sign up for ubuntu pro? For that you just need to go to their website and register. For the homelab stuff you could start small - maybe a linux nas with a few VMs for a pihole or something.
Ubuntu is a gateway drug to Arch.
And arch is a gateway drug to NixOS or gentoo
Select your drug now
I smoke my Linux with a filter.
Ah, a Zorin user
I have selected Fedora. Where did I go wrong?
Something something IBM something
I'm an Arch user flirting with the idea of NixOS. Is it too late to save me?
Hes to far gone SMH
I ran nix for awhile and it was super stable, i just kinda got bored of using it. I know its really powerful with nixpills and flakes.
Funny Gentoo actually was my gateway to arch. Loved the customizability of Gentoo and the rolling release model.
But building Chrome and Firefox (I needed both for work reasons sometimes) every update was the nail in the coffin. Switched to Arch and didn't miss a thing.
It's also how we got snap packages and apartheid, and I'm not even sure which of those is worse. (yes, I'm joking)
Could you elaborate on this for those of us who don't know the context?
Canonical, the company that is responsible for Ubuntu, was founded by South African entrepreneur Mark Shuttleworth to sell B2B Linux tech support.
Aha thanks for letting me know 👍
Ubuntu
Par for the course
Linux Musk sounds like the evil counterpart to Mint. A fork of Red Star OS, etc.
Linux Musk Cinnamon. Yours for a modest subscription.
I mean Tesla cars are just x86 Linux machines
The nice thing about Linux is, he can't buy it and fuck it up.
He can still fuck up the community.
How?
Let me put it to you this way.
Elon Musk fanboys, now running arch.
Just.... Let that simmer for a minute.
Anyone smart enough to run Arch is smart enough to recognize Elon is an imbecile.
As a complete idiot who uses arch on her main PC, I can attest that you don't have to be particularly smart to use it.
But do you recognize Musk as an imbecile? If you do you're smarter than you think.
Take it from me, people who openly say they're idiots usually aren't. Socrates: I now know I know nothing.
Maybe nowadays, with Elon's imbecility so publicly visible.
I've run Arch for close to 10 years, and was pretty jazzed by Musk in the early days of his presiding over Tesla and Space X. Then again, I was barely an adult at the time, and I hadn't yet come across the first reports of terrible working conditions and his overall shittyness as a manager/exec.
A lot of people forget how overwhelmingly, insanely popular Musk was with way too online nerds. He was reddit's golden child for years. Part of this is that whenever Disney started releasing the Marvel movies, beginning with Iron Man, Musk was front and center as the core inspiration for Tony Stark (yes, I'm serious, the director and Robert Downey Jr. basically went on record as saying as much) and he fucking milked that shit. It's also important to understand that for a time he was seen as a forward looking entrepreneur whose business was "going to help save the planet by making electric cars so popular that every car manufacturer would switch to electric vehicle production to keep up." If Musk was a genius at one thing, it was manipulating public perception of himself and his enterprises. It took years of him being a thin-skinned weirdo and massive corporate tool to undo the amount of positive sentiment he'd built for himself and Tesla.
you literally have to run installation script or follow instructions from arch wiki. slap some de to it and you're good. doesn't take a smart person to do.
to properly maintain it for longer periods forever though, takes some more skill.
NixOs has entered the chat
He'll claim he invented it
Well, he at least invented X11...
Popularize among his follower base and make it cringe to use Linux
You say that, but I'll be more than willing to try and sell him a copy of the source code.
For extra irony, sell him an NFT to the source code.
Just like chromium is safe from Google?
Chromium was, however, a Google product from the very beginning that Google open-sourced themselves. Linux is too big with too many non-profit and for-profit companies and tons of independent individuals participating in its development for one person or company to control it outright.
I mean, sure, for profit companies like Red Hat, SUSE, Canonical do have some influence but not so much that you can’t ignore their contributions if you don’t like them.
For example, some ubuntu based distros (i.e Mint) circumvent snap from being installed the ubuntu way (without asking) because it goes against their philosophy. And if that’s still too much Ubuntu for you, there’s a Debian Edition of mint. And if that’s still too same-y for you, there are dozens of other distros based on slackware, rhel/fedora, arch, Gentoo, etc. There even are Linux distros without GNU.
So, unless Muskiboy buys Linus Torvalds, I think the Linux community could easily ignore him building his own xOS.
Eww, we stepped in some Elon.. 🤢
oh, so that's why its so musky in here
a broken clock is right twice a day
No this dipshit just says whatever he thinks is going to be the most popular with the tech bros he is desperate to be in front of.
He could always learn it. Maybe go to his local community college and take a programming class. He could take an intro physics class as well. Might help him out.
If he had any part in Tesla productions, he already would. Or any part of SpaceX.
He's a funny guy.
And, how does what you said cancel out what you responded to?
Not sure what relevance a broken clock has to the discussion or the OP.
It's an expression. In this context Elon is the broken clock and saying desktops should run Linux is one of the rare times he's been right about something.
Started a space company, and an EV company. Both longshots, both wildly successful.
Bought Twitter. Laid of 80% of the employees. Still runs totally fine.
Your position is nakedly indefensible. I'd be curious what you think he's actually wrong about.
Welp, off to macOS now. Sorry guys I can't be a part of this community anymore.
Too expensive for me. FreeBSD it is!
Time to boot up the old windows 98 machine from the closet and start making my own modern app alternative.
I’d rather go for Win95, now that dotnet9x is out there and I can run modern software: https://youtu.be/CTUMNtKQLl8?si=zM7L49Y4wuDL_XYN
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Plan 9, here I go!
There's always BeOS.
Remember BeOS and how it was going to be the future?
Poor BeOS.
(Yes, yes, Haiku. But who uses it?)
I ran haiku on a laptop at one point, actually supported it really well
It's probably a good OS, but I doubt it will ever become the dominant new OS was hoped BeOS would become.
He'll realise his own distro and call it OS X.
LinuX
LinuS
LinuE
LinuX
LinuY
Lynx
(it's the British name for Axe deodorant)
The lawsuits would be hilarious.
This is good work.
Realistically, he would call it ElonOS, hire a bunch of shitty systems programmers to cobble together a bullshit operating system mostly comprised of code stolen from other open source projects, insist that it be written in python because "python is critical to AI," talk about how the OS integrates with AI seamlessly while having no actual AI in it at all, sell it with a tiered subscription that locked basic functionality, like being able to use the file system, behind a paywall, and then quickly abandon the project and fire everyone involved, having made no real money from the venture but still referring to it as a "triumph of engineering."
All that, but he has said he loves the letter X maybe XlonOS.
If he wants to name it after something he loves, he could name it ApartheidOS, EmeraldMineOS, ApartheidEmeraldMineOS, etc. The possibilities are endless.
LinuseX
LinX
I really want him to do this. Could you imagine the fallout from the war between Musk's lawyers and Apple's lawyers?
He will release X-OS, a fork of Ubuntu, which is half broken, and has Grok integrated in it.
He'll get sued by Apple for infringing on their OS X trademark, and he'll invent laws claiming he's in the right, and he'll lose billions, and then he'll claim he invented Linux and he's a genius.
I kind of want to see this go down. There are a few companies you don't fuck with. Apple is definitely one of them. I am sure their lawyers are just as smart and soulless as Disney's
Musk has been using x.com since the Mac OS 8 days.
He'd easily have prior rights.
He sold it into PayPal, then bought it back from PayPal a couple years ago.
Not sure how trademarks work, but I think it gets stickier when it's used for different purposes. like how there's Starcraft trailers and the game.
Unfortunately, XOS has already been taken by Infinix, a budget phone brand that primarily sells in Africa, for its own ad-riddled bloated Android skin.
Is it going to be a Ubuntu from though? I can see his engineers coming to him saying we should fork Ubuntu for many very good reasons. Then he does to much ketamine and then tells them to use DistroX, because the X
(I can't actually tell if DistroX is real. I could only find one reference to it. But hey is that going to stop Musk)
AntiX?
You would think but this is what LinuxInsider said about it.
So no way could he use it.
This is the one reference that I found. I assume that if DistroX ever existed it is long dead.
https://softiq.io/a-comprehensive-guide-to-linux-distros-the-good-the-bad-and-the-quirky/
Based off the Ubuntu 24.04 release, which already seems half broken, it's perfect.
Quick, someone pretend to be "the Linux company" and convince him to buy it!
Noo, I don't want Linux to be sold to Elon...
As the CEO of Linux, I've had long and intense discussions with Mr Musk about the future of the company if he were to buy it, and I have come to the conclusion that he is a very good and smart businessman. There is no doubt on my mind that our company will thrive under his competent leadership. The Linux Corporation(TM) is therefore proud to announce that we have decided to accept his gracious offer of 69 billion US dollars, payable in $100 Google Play gift cards.
You forgot to tell them that our head office is...
300 Funston Ave, San Francisco, CA 94118
...and all the play cards should be sent there!
But they're playing pretend
Elon just tries to get approval by finding a dominate opinion among a group of people and parroting back what they say and want. Kinda obvious and pathetic.
But maybe this one correct take negates the 517 instances where he made it look like he was a grade-A asshole last week alone.
Nah, it’s just the 0.004% probability coming out.
Number one argument to not use Linux
I think you are probably right in a way... Remember how android started as a weird Linux kernel (supposedly, rumors ran around at the time)? But today android is a piece of shit that everyone is enslaved on, and Linux still rules. That's because you can't be a dumbass windows user and just become a Linux user overnight. Well I guess it takes like 5 minutes to install, but you might end up frustrated staring at a screen. There's lots to learn before you can get comfortable. Else android....or like me, Ubuntu. Sorry to Linux, but Ubuntu is where I gave up trying to recompile X for the 200th time.
are you that easily manipulated?
I don't allow lunix in my house because it's an illegal hacker operation system. I can't believe an American hero like Elon would endorse something invented by the notorious Soviet computer hacker Linyos Torovoltos.
they are doing a bit
are you that dense with jokes?
I'll gladly have you explain to me where the pointe is here...
And now using Linux is officially cringe.
Ir was always cringe, but we did it anyway.
Fine with me; can't get HDR working in KDE, so I need a good excuse to give up and go back to Windows 11.
I guess I'm switching back to windows
Windows: supports pride month Linux: doesn't support pride month The choice is obvious.
are you that easily manipulated?
I get your a Linux user, but do you really not understand what a joke is?
A joke is some bit that's funny..
First thing he'll do is write Torvalds and suggest a minor change to the naming.
given Linus' flair for writing replies, I would love to see him rip into Elon.
I really appreciate Linus trying to tone down the nastiness in his replies over the years, but I'd be willing to let almost anything slide if it means getting a proper, old-school Torvalds tear-down of Musk.
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Elon musk anonces X OS, wait ...
Based on BS Distro
The founder of Amazon is buying the discontinued OS made by Jean-Louis Gassée and porting it to IBM mainframe platform. He’s going to name it BezOS.
Required reading to get this joke:
Wait, he may actually try this
He's gonna do an enshittified distro, just you wait...
Well, if it acts as a gateway drug (like ubuntu), then we are on the good side, right?
I've only ever tried one distro. Please enlighten me on what's wrong with Ubuntu.
Nothing is really wrong with any distro. They each just have they general strengths and weaknesses. Different distros for specific tasks.
It's all just a flame war.
Nothing really. Distros have different goals. Some distros have more access to bleeding edge updates than ubuntu.
Some don't like that ubuntu forces you to use the snap store, which is proprietary, with packages that are larger and run slow and hog a lot of memory compared to other package managers (such as apt)
This is starting to be some years back, but I was exclusively using apt when I was using Ubuntu, have they gone away from that?
yeah, many packages now defaults as snaps in ubuntu. firefox being a single but prominent example, the package on apt simply installs the snap now. You can get around that but you'll have to add mozillas repository. It's Canonical's proprietary thing so I guess it makes sense.
Ubuntu is fine. But Caninical has made business decisions that are 100% inline with the typical foss intent.
Maybe. But it's only really a gateway drug in my opinion.
Honestly I'd be funny to see
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Sorry Elon you, specifically, have to go to space before getting involved in Linux. It's the Shuttleworth law.
The Space Shuttleworth law?
Fuck off Musk.
Even a broken clock is correct once a day.
Could be twice if it's a 12 hour clock and doesn't mark am/pm.
so a regular analog clock. which is why the saying is actually "twice a day" not "once".
I still maintain the correct version if the saying is a "stopped" clock. A clock can be broken in other ways that make it almost never right.
Also I'm not sure analog clocks should be considered "regular" at this point. If seems like they're mostly decorative items now, and most actual timekeeping is done with clocks in phones and computers.
i said regular as a qualifier because i was expecting someone to point out niche clocks like a 24-hour one or whatever. plus if we're talking digital clocks the saying falls apart anyway because most of them would just not show anything rather than getting stuck on one time.
I have an analog clock in my man cave. Its very steam punk in design. It is NOT accurate and is ONLY a decoration piece that gets corrected when I can spare the attention. It runs fast, if anyone cares.
Ultimately, my wife liked it, bought it for me, and put it up. Not gonna upset her over something I really don't care about.
Letting this dude put you off something is just as pathetic as letting him put you onto something.
That makes Twitter Superman64
There's a saying about broken clocks
Ugh no keep my Linux Elon free
A red spy is in the base! 🚨
A red spy is in the base?!
Hut hut hut hut hut!
Protect the briefcase!
Yo, little help here?
Stand back son!
(Types on keypad) 1 1 1... Err... 1!
These comments are insane. Even Hitler washed his hands. Are you gonna stop doing that just cause a piece of shit agreed it was good?
Fuck. That does it. I'm off to BSD.
Even a blind hen sometimes finds a grain of corn.
A broken clock is right twice a day.
An ultra wealthy idiot sometimes says something correct by complete mistake
ooh I like that one!
Just because a fool tells it, doesn't make it a foolish statement.
Edit: Corrected a typo
It's not foolish, but the fool is filthy rich and with a big fanbase, that is where the problem lays.
Even if 0.1 percent of his fanbase shift to linux maybe we can demand good software and hardware support.
More likely we will have bunch of whinny fools just like him but hope springs eternal.
Yeah, I can go with that - always look on the positive side 👍.
I have been using Linux since 1993. Maybe it is time to move on.
he makes everything seem less cool.
Time to switch to BSD /s
Actually, I have been leaning towards BSD for the past year or so, so it might not be such a bad idea.
which bsd?
NetBSD most likely, it supports the arches I'm after.
inbefore Musk-OS
forks Hannah Montana
Creates Tesla Texas linux
My money is on MusX
XOS
OS X
Wait a second...
Linusk
or musX
That's just him blatantly copying or rebranding windows
X was already a thing in Linux before Elon had a dream.
Fucking go ahead and take it though Elon. Wayland for the win.
He's just mad Bill Gates is still shorting Tesla lol
Especially since Gates won that bet, last time Tesla was that low is at the end of 2020
I mean I wouldn't mind if he bought a bunch of computer manufacturers and made them switch to Linux. Would be a better use of his money than whatever he's doing with it now.
I her make it all paywall and subscription based. Probably laced with spy tools, new terms of use every few months followed by deactivation for some dumb reason
This thread is focusing on whether he's right, even while being a shithead. The problem IMO is not whether he's right or not, it's what his 'plans' are if the world moves in the direction he starts nudging. Guy's a psycho edgelord pro-fascist with Bond villain tendencies, but he's surfed on trends to carve monopolies before... Idk
If I had to guess, he'd try to find a business selling enterprise supported distributions of Linux, buy them, then try to expand/convert them to develop "consumer Linux". He'd advertise it as getting out from under the thumb of evil corps (ie his competitors), then as soon as it gains even a modicum of traction start implementing privacy violating shit, ads, whatever, to enshittify it as quickly as possible for a quick buck.
If it brings more people and support to the linux ecosystem I say sure, go for it. If more people start using linux, even a corpo version, over windows, doing a "side-grade" is more palatable than a change as severe for most people going from Windows to a FOSS linux, even if it is still unlikely for the non-technically inclined. It may also improve product/software support for linux in general, meaning everyone using linux already would benefit from a mainstream distro existing.
Assuming of course it isn't a total trainwreck that tarnishes the reputation of linux, but even then, would broaden the awareness and discourse for linux so maybe not all bad regardless.
My 2 cents anyways.
Well, it's not like he's already done trainwrecks that tarnished the reputation of multiple companies, so I'm sure we're safe 😏
I disagree. His involvement includes his circus. I like where Linux is. Circus brings unneeded attention.
that's fair, but if the toddler billionaire found a new block to chew on, I hope it at least brings something good to the overall community.
You had a good point though. Even if he does make that enshittified distro, people will see through it and probably be like "wait... I though this is what we were running from in the first place 🤨", and that will in turn lead them to other distros.
Plus the whole traction aspect, more software for Linux, even if it is proprietary, that is what actually keeps users on Windows - their favorite software running natively on Linux.
So, yeah, I was also like "holy shit, hope he doesn't do anything stupid 😬", but you made some fair points, so, I guess... go for it Elon 👍 🤷 😁.
...what do you mean, "open-source"?
He's not wrong
A broken clock is right twice a day?
I think he sees the decline of Windows like everyone else. He is in the tech space you know. It is kind of ironic that he is complaining about Microsoft. Tesla has its own issues.
I hope now all those Tesla / Musk sycophants and influencers will start touting Linux as the "big new thing" Elon has invented. /s
You don't have to like everyone that likes what you like.
"Even a blind pig can find an acorn every once in a while."
I thought it went, “Even a blind clock finds a nut twice a day.”
I don't fall for this, I switch back to Windows
Please tell me that’s not real. I don’t want him being a Linux fan boy. That would ruin the Linux community.
Like a fucking herald of doom I hear about new vulnerabilities on some Linux distros the day after I see this dipshit talking about it.
Script kiddies also follow him 🤷.
Fuck anything this human garbage says
Time to switch to BSD
So PlayStation os?
Hey, if it works for gamers, it works for me.
He's not wrong
I cannot believe this post. This isn't real, right?
Oh yeah, it is.
How is this possible? Is linux really going mainstream now (If so, Musk freeloading on it is inevitable)
It has been getting a lot of attention the past few years thanks to the enshittification of Windows and Linux being able to run on anything. Also, now it's very usable, even for newer hardware, which wasn't always the case.
Like he could even attempt to use Linux himself
Teslas run Linux. Not sure they finally comply with the GPL, though.
Come on bruh, if you're gonna hate on Elon at least make your insults accurate/well-founded. Dude started and runs multiple massive companies, I think he can handle linux mint.
He didn't really start anything, he just bought in mostly. Point stands though, thinking Elon can't use a stable distro is silly.
He cofounded zip2, x.com (not twitter), openAI, neuralink and founded spacex and boring company, at least according to Wikipedia.
What's the best BSD distro? Asking for a friend
For desktop usage, use FreeBSD or something that is based on it. For servers, you should use NetBSD or OpenBSD (my personal choice).
GhostBSD looks kinda neat
Introducing TeslOS! The world's first full self-driving OS for desktops!
This announcement would be a week after CryptOS imploded beautifully
You know what they say about stopped clocks.
No grains no gains
Huh?
No musk, go away, leave linix alone <insert that meme of leave britney alone, but with linux>
the musk spam must stop
Hahaha haha, right, right, hahahaha
Actually, it's true, google it.
I'll wait and see how this turns out, but I'll keep openbsd.org open in my browser. Just in case.
NetBSD for me.
I don't know if I like linux now :-(
Every once in a while, a squirrel finds a nut. This doesn't make Musk some kind of Urskek philosopher -sage.
Well, even an ape can type a book if he types long enough.
Even a dumb hen can find an egg.
Etc, etc.
Damn it I was just going to get into Linux!
Inb4 Musk Brand Distro
Do teslas run android, or something else? Elon encouraging the use of Linux isn't surprising, but if his vehicles and sattelites we'rent also using Linux, I'd be more surprised.
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Shit indeed
He got his EA renewal numbers and is using a tweet to bargain for deeper discounts.
I like Elon musk (bring me your down votes).He may be billionaire or drag queen or whatever but he does what he wants even beyond loosing everything, he doesn’t give a fuck . Somehow he is authentic. Other billionaires are like rats fearing not loosing a single penny . Electric cars? I love them. Rockets , I played with them when I was kid. A shitty truck ? Yeah I will do it. Buying shit twitter and make my own, yeah why not. I know there are people and countries that are struggling to get food and this guy is doing that, but considering the shitload of extreme and irrational capitalism, have to highlight at least this.
All the childish stuff he does aside, if that wasn't enough, my problem with him is that he's actively promoting fascist and undermining the working class.
This mother fucker has all the money in the world and he's not content to do the kid dream stuff you describe, he's actively helping fascist spread misinformation and is actively fighting against good wages and conditions for the working class.
So yea, fuck Elon and pretty much all of the rest of the billionaires.
Being on the right side of the political spectrum doesn’t mean you’re fascist just like being on the left side doesn’t mean you’re communist.
This is true, but Elon is actively helping facism. He actively supports fascism. Why did he compared a Jewish Billionaire to some Jewish comic villain? Why does he Actively support the AfD(German extreme Right wing party(that wants to deportate "foreigners" to some African state))? There are more examples, but this are the two I immediately thougjt of.
Big example- the "free speech absolutist" does any sort of censorship and banning Modi's fascist Indian government requests.
I guess good on you for not having the will to analyze anything beyond the surface level?
You left out bigot and fascist.
Is it because there's no "may" about it?
Yeah if he was a cartoon character I’d be down with him, but he’s a cartoon villain
I have a disdain for Elon but I want to thank you for saying that you do like him. Makes this place less of an echo chamber.
Even tho I hate Elon I have to agree with you. He literally doesn't care about anything. Ia that good for him? No.