Question: People who still frequent Reddit, has it gone back to business as usual or are the protests still having effect?
I haven’t gone back since Apollo shut down, and not planning to, but I am curious.
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I haven’t gone back since Apollo shut down, and not planning to, but I am curious.
I read a post somewhere that really vibed with me. It said that they use Apollo and Reddit was just a backend. When Apollo died, Reddit did too for them.
Boost just died for me a hour ago, and Reddit with it. So now I'm here.
Same but Reddit Is Fun, Lemmy is kicking ass though.
RIP.
There are dozens of us... Dozens!!
Same. It lasted even longer than it should have
Me too 😭
Yeah. The end of Boost was the end of Reddit for me, too. Now I'm here and trying to figure out Lemmy. So far so good...I think?
My Reddit feed was the result of months of "hide X subreddit" and finding words to blacklist so it'll take a while for Lemmy to mature into something like that, but whatever.
This is such a mood, all the subreddits tagged as NSFW can only be viewed on the official app now and I refuse to use the official app over joey... So onward to lemmy I go!
Oh I really vibe with that
Ah, yes, typical reddit addict having withdrawal syndrome.
Don't look back...
Is it withdrawal symptoms if I'm only curious out of spite?
Same, lol. I gave up reddit as soon as the protest started. Been on 4chan to pass the time, but lemmy has really picked up the last week.
Yes. You have to break away 100%. Cold turkey is a bitch!
Lol I wouldn't really call it a bitch, I haven't been on since they announced their plans. I just want any corporations to burn when possible
Lemmy is my new Reddit addiction. With Lemmy becoming more vibrant I’m missing Reddit less and less, though Lemmy still has a ways to go.
Getting better daily though.
Tbh this is filling that void. Think I checked reddit once since Apollo died
Never again.
Haha.
I find the best way to handle withdrawal is to change your habit. I spent time grabbing a few books, and spent a few days with my Kindle or with Foliate fullscreen on my HDTV.
So before, I'd probably spend time answering r/firefox, looking at r/firefoxcss - now I start with 1/2 hour reading Great Expectations. After reading a chapter, I play the same chapter via audiobook - meanwhile I have a couple of TV/Movie versions queued up to watch after finishing reading.
After that I'd probably get into some DadJokes - I can do that on https://lemmy.world/c/dadjokes
Next up, an hour reading The Midnight Library
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Hello!
May I ask why you are listening to the same chapter after reading it? :) Is it to retain the information or just to not miss anything? Do you do the same regardless if you're reading fiction or non-fiction?
They still make books? 😉
Most movies and tv shows are from books, and reading the book is 99.5% better.
Think of talking Bladerunner movie and doing it as a 30 minute short.
I’ll be honest I was having withdraws until I found out about memmy
Stay strong!
Oh I am lol. I just wanted something to browse during work and Memmy does just that
That's how it starts!
As much as I want to, I still gotta browse Reddit to get updates related to my niche.
Excuses, excuses.
i have relapsed for the past several days... mostly because my app (boost) has not yet been shut down.
i have been enjoying my fix, but I it does leave me feeling dirty.
As a fellow booster... You're a whore 😉. Hoping rmayayo really does put together a lemmy/fediverse app.
I'd LAUNCH the Rocket!
There's a registration up on the Play store to download it once it releases, and he did a pretty open announcement on the Boost for Reddit app.
I'd say somethings coming of it, at the very least.
Yeah, I'm in. Supposedly automatically downloading when available.
I've only been back to visit a small, private sub, but I've seen a lot of posts here saying that a high percentage of bot content is obvious. The conjecture is that there's always been a lot of bots, but they were somewhat less obvious because there was more human content. With a lot of big content creators leaving, it's more apparent when a lot of posts and comments are from bots.
Plus some people think Reddit has increased bot usage to astroturf against the protests and to give the illusion that traffic isn't down.
I think the bot theory is accurate. 3rd party tools were critical for detecting and removing bot posts before.
The small communities I look at are half of what they used to be. The bigger ones just made up for it with increased bot posting.
The bot posting will probably last long enough for their IPO so they can sucker in enough investors for them to fuck on out of there. The more casual users that are left probably don’t use the system enough to know/care until it comes crashing down.
Elon would buy it
I love the sound and view of a good trashfire, so I sometimes go look and see how hard it's burning.
So /r/madlads Mods did what madlads do: They made everyone a moderator just like /r/politicalhumor did from the beginning of the protest. I brought the idea up to the /r/pics mod just to let them know. Would be funny as hell.
Postwise, Bots started reposting content from 2-3 years ago, ChatGPT was spotted multiple times as a replying user and smaller subs returned to normal, but are slowly drowning in spambot posts or switched to approval-only due to the failing tools.
EDIT: A major antispambot on reddit closes down today by unbanning EVERY SINGLE SPAMBOT on reddit. Did I mention that I love watching things burn down?
To me it feels like the whole ordeal shook reddit quite a bit and made maybe the top 10% of the users drop out of the bucket this way, going to the Fediverse (flavors: lemmy, kbin, mastodon) as far as I can tell right now. Tildes and squabbles got some users, too, but IMHO those seem to be not doing well so far.
Jesus that's hilarious! Make everyone a mod, I'd love to see that spread.
They didn't unban all spam bots, they just aren't adding any more to the ban list.
Good stuff. Trashfires are nice. I first looked at tildes, but invitations were nowhere to be found. Glad I checked out Lemmy mext, I’m really having a great time.
I apparently have 10 tildes invitation codes from 5 years ago when I tried it out. If anyone wants them, send a DM. Personally, I find it too restrictive there as they want everything serious - no jokes. Lemmy is more my speed.
You have to send an email for a Tildes invitation if you don't personally know someone on there. It took me like 5 days to get the return email and it did go to spam. You can PM me if you still want an invite or go here for the site and sign up info.
Turning everyone into mods is a horrible idea, because reddit will hand over ownership of any sub doing any kind of protests to the first mod that contacts them and asks for it. At least one sub was taken over because of that by a person who had basically no clue about what they were doing.
It's dangerous and just asking for Reddit to take over.
I'm jumping between Reddit and Lemmy. Some subreddits have all of their mods booted out (r/GoCommitDie and r/OpenAI are two I can think of). Some subreddits have decided to flag their subreddit as NSFW but are being threatened by Reddit to reverse that move, and many have returned to business as usual.
Let's face it. We've lost the API protest. All we can do now is make Lemmy popular and make it attractive to other users. Give people an incentive to actually join here. Our job here is not to make Lemmy a copy of Reddit. We need to make Lemmy different (in a good way!).
And here's an unpopular opinion: we need to make Lemmy easy to use and understand. If normies find Lemmy difficult to use or understand, then we're fucked.
My personal opinion is that normies might get confused by the fediverse and might be turned away by thinking they need to make an account on every single instance in order to participate in them. I am not proposing that we get rid of federation. What I am proposing is that we somehow make it clearer to everyone that all you really need is one account and you can get access to everywhere. I don't know how we can do this, but I'm sure there is someone who knows.
For the normies, I just saw someone recommend the wefwef app on reddit and now here I am.
It's 2023, people don't need to know how the fediverse works, they just need to know which app to install.
Content is nice. It feels like reddit of old.
This is going to be great.
I'm not really a normy, but the simple act of making an account is not obvious. With that barrier of entry, most people will simply never be able to join here.
Ha! Even after creating an account, figuring out how to log in to Jerboa took a Google search.
I kinda am, and found it easy enough. Read some stuff and signed up, jumped in and figure it out as I go - am I missing something? There doesn't seem to be barrier to entry for anyone who can use a phone or computer.
Good. Its an intelligence gate.
Lack of technical expertise does not equate to a lack of intelligence.
It does though. Its not the technology... Its the critical thinking and problem solving. It could be a stone puzzle.
GTFO!
Please, anyone that dumb - force them to stay on Reddit. Don't let them in!!!!!
Most people start by ending up on the join Lemmy website and are bombarded with info about the fediverse, and the description of each server makes it sound like you can only interact with local commities. If you link someone straight to lemmy.world I imagine they will have no problem signing up.
Oh, ok - I missed something.
I started by looking at BeeHaw from a link - but couldn't get in.
Then Lemmy.ml, which promptly failed to do much of anything, I actually made 5 accounts with the same username in Bitwarden (just join, then search up my BendyLemmy and 'auto-fill and save'...).
When Lemmy.world stopped responding (last week I also got tons of errors with Lemmy.ml) I just took a back seat, did something else, then spotted several 'upgraded!!!' posts in my feeds.
I'm all for improving the user experience here on Lemmy.
But what I find not so appealing, is targeting mass adoption in a way that dumbs down the community we're building here.
As long as we just make Lemmy a great place to be, the right kind of people will keep joining.
Meta knows exactly what to do to bring a billion new users to a new social media site, and all you have to do is look at Threads to see the kind of community they are cultivating.
Lemmy does not, and never will, have the moderation power to contend with that many bad actors. I'm perfectly fine with Lemmy having a tiny learning curve to keep out the dregs.
Isn't it possible to also create a gatekept community on the fediverse by just filtering to "local" on an instance that has the same current state barriers to entry? That'd prevent you from seeing the posts on instances that have lower barriers to entry.
I mean just having someone that has good real world UX skills (as in, good UX for normies) to redesign join.lemmy would probably already solve 90% of it.
I think account transfers is another thing what would help alleviate the pressure from choosing an instance.
I have good (I hope) UI skills, as in, I am good at designing good looking frontends. How do I apply to design the join.lemmy page?
Probably through the GitHub would be my guess.
https://github.com/LemmyNet
We didn’t lose. Reddit lost us and will continue to lose.
Reddit offers nothing without its (human) users. They can chatGPT all the posts they want to try and look busy, but people are gonna notice the lack of original thoughts and leave. It will be slow and it won’t be complete, but it is happening.
Fediverse services need to lead with the “all” feed. People don’t want to be pressured to pick a server without knowing what’s on it or where everyone else is. When you go to reddit, the first thing you see is the r/all feed. The posts and content is what gets people to join.
Making cute little infographics could help. Even Reddit had them way back when people didn't really "get" what all the voting was about or why people were so into bacon.
This is the oldest one I could find with a quick Google search, but I am sure there were older ones as well.
https://i.redd.it/52zp3pfkcq841.jpg
Right now, you DO need multiple accounts. Instances are down all the time, federation either breaks or is intentionally broken through defederation even between relatively large instances, ... it gets tedious.
That's just growing pains from a sudden mass migration, the hug of death if you would.
User base growing organically over time will make this happen less and less.
Lemmy as a software will get more sophisticated, the people running the software will get more used to how things operate and be able to buy more/better hardware, etc..
Right now things are just a bit chaotic from thousands of people jumping ship at the same time.
People don't care about it being growing pains or what will happen, they're trying it now.
And people will try it in the future when it is a better experience, too. Both things can happen, I promise you.
I feel like I haven't seen enough of that happening in the past though. Can you share some examples of where you'd seen it? Maybe Steam? No Man's Sky?
What other apps debuted early to a poor public reception that got people to come back and try it again and successfully change their minds?
Lemmy now has over an average of a million posts a day up from 300k a month ago. It’s experiencing massive massive growth NOW despite no venture capital being thrown at it. I don’t know why you are asking about sleeper hits when you are literally posting on one. EDIT: I’m an idiot. Misinterpreted the “1 million posts” post from yesterday as a daily total not a cumulative lifetime total.
I usually hate this response.. But I haven't had any issues, this is bizarre to hear for me.
maybe drop the word federated. That word makes little sense here.
What is the confusing part?
Honestly I feel like the barrier of entry for normies is a good thing. What’s the confusing part about Lemmy and the fediverse? Maybe I’m missing something
You're just being obtuse if you think that there's no confusion for the majority.
The absolute vast majority aren't techies, they aren't open to learning and they have been used to centralised simplicity.
Just trying to explain home instances, federation and defederation is more than enough to lose the interest and understanding of a vast majority.
Now the barriers do lend themselves to an entirely different feeling and community base. Whether that's good or bad is down to personal taste. But Lemmy isn't going to compete with reddit until the process is streamlined and the thinking required is mostly removed.
I tried to explain Lemmy to my gf since she was on reddit a lot, but quit for other reasons. Her eyes glazed over, and she gave me a "wow that sounds cool" , like i was our toddler, excitedly telling her about a leaf i saw.
While it's true that the majority of people may not be tech-savvy or open to learning complex new software, it doesn't necessarily mean that normal people don't adopt new software at all. Throughout history, we have seen numerous instances where new technologies and software have gained widespread adoption, even among non-technical users.
Consider the rise of social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter. These platforms started with relatively niche user bases but eventually expanded to reach millions, if not billions, of users worldwide. The key to their success was not only their technical features but also their ability to simplify the user experience and cater to the needs and preferences of a wide range of individuals.
In the case of home instances, federation, and defederation, while they may sound complicated and unfamiliar to the average user, it's important to note that successful software platforms often find ways to abstract complex concepts and provide intuitive interfaces. If the process is streamlined and the thinking required is minimized, it becomes more accessible to a larger audience.
Moreover, it's worth considering that as technology becomes more pervasive in our daily lives, people are becoming increasingly comfortable with exploring new software and digital experiences. The rise of smartphones, mobile apps, and the increasing reliance on digital tools for various tasks indicate a growing acceptance and adoption of new software by the general population.
Therefore, while it's true that there may be initial barriers and confusion, it is possible for new software like Lemmy to compete with established platforms like Reddit by focusing on simplifying the user experience, addressing the needs of non-technical users, and gradually building a community base that fosters familiarity and engagement. It's important not to underestimate the potential for normal people to embrace new software when it offers compelling features and a user-friendly interface.
The best analogy I've found so far is "it's like having an email address; having a different server after the @ is not an impediment to your participation. Just know that you can only login to the server where your account is set up."
I am using this example! That's a great way of explaining it.
I'm still slightly confused about aggregating or if that is even possible. I guess I just need to have a separate account for NSFW stuff lol
Tbh the lemmy home page that's supposed to walk you though joining needs to be cleaned up. The page kinda assumes you are somewhat tech literate, and doesn't really do a good job at explaining how to navigate the fediverse.
I would check it here and there the last few weeks. It’s completely barren. Most subs are just gone and the popular page is just askreddit or food posts. It’s awful. This is my new home!
That’s just not true lol but some subs stayed down. The remaining subs are still getting 50k karma on hot posts. It’s mostly am I the asshole type posts and the small niche ones active
It depends on what you were subscribed to. Most of mine are dead too, but they were smaller and more eclectic subreddits.
And how many of them are spez-bots?
Bout tree fiddy
Yeah, I didn't look to see which subs were up or down, but my home feed is drastically reduced and I don't see nearly as much as I used to
Do they seriously have 2k employees? I'd kill to know what all of their jobs are and what each of them does day to day. From what I've heard from mods and from what we've seen I can't imagine they were all doing much.
You're gonna have Devs, Support, QA testing, HR, Accounting, IT, Facilities, cleaners etc etc.
Lots of stuff behind the scenes that doesn't interact with the public.
Reddit is like a museum, except they don’t pay for the art, and the staff (docents, security, etc) are all volunteers. Further, they don’t sell tickets, rather they charge people to run concessions and gift shops on the premises.
Without the art, nobody comes and the vendors all quit. Without the staff the art will get vandalized and stolen, visitors leave, and the vendors all quit.
Reddit owns a warehouse where volunteers built something valuable for them. Fighting with the volunteers is next level dumb.
What's more disgusting is the army of bots they used to slander their volunteers. Every subreddit I was actually active in was painfully obvious to see hundreds of accounts that never posted there suddenly showing up and being violently anti-moderator.
My favorite thing over there right now is r/videos, which only allows text descriptions of the video you were going to post. It's way more entertaining than it has any right to be.
Top post: Reddit Fucking CEO Steve 'Spez' Huffman apology video
Dammit.
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
I mean, half the good subs are still gone. I can't even use my home feed anymore, its half just video game subs now. Places like r/interestingasfuck were regular features in my feed that were pretty important to it being a pleasant experience overall. I balanced that shit.
Now its all fucked. I still have my account and still go there, to poke around and participate in some of those video game subs, where reddit is still clearly dominant. But hanging out has gotten kinda lame.
Yeah, it’s the video game subs that I miss. I’ve joined the same ones here on Lemmy but they’re mostly dead.. I’m optimistic that they’ll populate and come alive though.
I don’t get how’s there’s so much activity here on the big communities but us lemmy nerds….have dead gaming communities, the hell?
I’m also missing a popular wrestling sub because I like to keep up with the news as I don’t watch any TVs or PPVs so I’m back to browsing there on PC.
There's a difference between nerds and geeks
I miss Tihi to be honest. And few other subreddits. But I can survive without them.
Reddit has made it easy now that my mobile apps are gone. Also, my main account got permananned on Tuesday apparently out of comment posted 5 years ago about spez. Also, a niche sub I followed was taken over by a Nazi when the historical mod got kicked out by reddit and now that's gone too.
Reddit has slipped into being irrelevant very quickly.
My main account got permabanned for "sexualization of minors" after I made a comment criticizing a guy talking about what he'd do to 4th graders. Sent an appeal... and got permabanned on ALL of my accounts for "recurring offense".
Maybe spez wants to turn all of Reddit into jailbait again.
Reddit: "Someone reported a theft. What do you know?"
You: "Yes, I reported the theft. Here are the details of the perp."
Reddit: "When we turned up you were the only one here. You sound like you know a lot. You're under arrest for theft."
That's about the level of effort. I would wager that nobody really checks whether the admins or whatever they call their safety squad are doing a realistically good job... probably just metrics like "banned 150 people last week".
I got a full IP ban from reddit because I asked a guy how he kept his calm and didnt flip his shit at his clients, after he just made a big post about how his clients were complete and utter idiots who made him ahve to come back at all hours of the day to fix their stupidity for over a year.
According to reddit, replying to a guys post with a relevant question constitutes severe harassment.
I wouldn't say Reddit is irrelevant at all, not yet and maybe not for a long time. But I don't care about Reddit at all anymore. I think that when Boost for Lemmy comes out I won't even look back on Reddit
What sucks is there's still a few very good subs with big communities that don't seem to be moving to the fediverse, which is still too geeky for a lot of people. However, now that Reddit is banning active members and moderators, it's a matter of weeks until the whole thing turns into 4chan-on-a-bad-day. At this rate we'll all get back to usenet by 2024.
I've been using Connect for Lemmy, and seems on par with Boost already.
The Dead Internet theory is becoming reality right in front of our eyes. I can hardly believe it.
You can see a lot of communities being closed or not back to normal. My feeling is that this whole thing will leave a big scar on reddit for a long time, and it will probably never heal, because it was mostly hitting core users who were there for a long time. Maybe they calculated that most users are lurkers who use mobile, and the rest is people using old reddit?
The problem is that it's not a good idea to upset the mods, but reddit also works with content, and it's a complex chemistry between people who post new things and how the mods regulate it to make sure their sub has quality. I guess that a lot of mods don't care, or maybe they don't care now but will care later? Maybe new subreddits will open with other mods.
Eitherway, reddit is ready to sacrifice a good fraction of its quality and trust to extract money out of it, but reddit users are not instagram users.
It was more and more difficult to make reddit interesting by avoiding some subreddits and searching for subreddits that were more and more niche, but at some point you feel that something is lost after the whole "increase quantity, dilute quality" phase.
Reddit is also getting more polarized and politics have really poisoned the site to a degree never seen before, Trumpists were present there for waaaaay too long, and it attracted a lot of conservatives and right wing users who don't fit with the usual reddit crowds. It managed to survive after a looooot of drama, but after all this, maybe the core users of reddit are just tired, and might slowly quit the ship, and maybe reddit will see the same problems twitter is currently having, with conservative etc running rampant.
I wish reddit would have stood up with its core users who are mostly liberals/leftists, instead of compromising and letting fascists thrive there.
I use my country's subreddit and it seems the right wing phase is being felt more and more, I'm feeling even the mods start to get tired because of it. every month I'm surprised by the opinions of the comments I see on this sub. Maybe it also reflects world politics, but I'm not sure. Sometimes I get paranoid and I imagine that astroturfers are often around to leave a mean comment, or downvote things that doesn't fit their agenda.
The upside is that reddit still managed to hold up for much longer than digg.
Thanks. This is the type of quality comment that lemmy needs
How would I even access it without rif?
You can log out of rif and it will work, though no porn
Looking at logged out Reddit really takes the proverbial paper bag off. It's so unappealing.
Revanced patched version of the reddit app without ads and other bloat, or through a web browser with ublock and RES.
Or a Revanced patched version of RiF itself
Unfortunately I res doesn't work on android.
Ot even on firefox dev?
Do not protest reddit. Boycott reddit for good and live in the lemmyverse.
If your lemmy instance gets unbearable, there will always be another lemmy instance to go to.
If you do use reddit, it should be to post and comment about lemmy to inform the current redditors to move to lemmyverse.
Most remaining are hardcore, but I still do that...
Something I never understood - having used Manjaro KDE for 6 years now, and always getting the best help in the free Manjaro forum... Why do people go to Reddit and ask there???
I never actually got good answers in Reddit, and I was never interested to try to help folks in Reddit (though I'll help in Manjaro forums, and if I get it wrong there are Guru's reading who will help me see where I went wrong).
I understand that Reddit had a lot of great stuff, but people just over-extend everything with their tiny little brains.
Yes. The mods should just make their way over here even. Just start moving.
/r/all has top posts from very obscure subreddits now
My Frontpage has much much less churn.
As long as we keep making this place good and active, it will be attractive. With the increased spam bots and degraded moderation, people will start looking elsewhere
/r/Pics and /r/videos are still rebelling. /r/videos is only allowing text descriptions of videos and /r/PICS is still nothing but John Oliver
Though the did go NSFW and reddit is having a fit about it. We might see the mods replaced in the next 24 hours.
I'd like to suggest that if the mods are replaced and the NSFW tag is removed that we all go post as much mildly NSFW content as possible just to poke the bear.
I haven't been on for a couple days because boost is finally dying, but the front page is shit, it's 90% anime and doordash.
That door dash subreddit is the weirdest thing ever. It popped out of nowhere seemingly overnight with thousands of upvotes and activity. Seems like obvious marketing to me, but yet most of the submissions are a bad look for the company.. I guess any publicity is good publicity.
Yeah the way it showed up is really odd. Maybe it's because it's a new source of petty drama. Like CMV used to be.
The recurring theme I saw with doordash posts making front page was that it always involved the dasher being an asshole begging/harassing/holding the food hostage until they got more money as a tip.
People love drama and calling out entitlement, I think thats why there was so much doordash out of no where.
That's all of reddit now. They're replacing subs, pushing new shit.
R/cyberpunkgame turned NSFW since, you know, the game features such things as a dick slider for your character and fully rendered sex scenes with prostitutes, and reddit is hilariously trying to turn it back into being marked as SFW.
Reddit still has better porn, for all other things I do not give a f**k.
Ahh the Lemmy PQI (porn quality index) has jumped leaps the past few weeks. Just need a few of the more estoric NSFW subs to transfer across to appease my filthy corrupted soul and my journey to Lemmy will be complete.
@nsfwlemmy.com is building up stuff slowly!
Are they mostly on specialized instances, or scattered across the greater fediverse? Asking for the sake of accurate statistics, of course.
So far almost exclusively on nsfw specialized instances, with lemmynsfw.com being the largest.
Those in pursuit of pure science would probably be best served by creating an account directly on that instance
Lemmy needs a randnsfw imo
I can’t find porn ;-;
Make sure you've not got NSFW switched off in your settings, there's plenty ;-)
Figured it out I think it was because my language hadn’t been set, not even on undetermined.
Thank you I’m going to figure this out probably.
Ah, talking about the porn they consume, but adverse to using a swear word.
A gentleman in the sheets.
But you can't use good gallery apps to view it now.
r/linux is turning into a noob subreddit where people copy and paste rule #1 (no support, it isn't a support forum) and then try to offer support because nothing else is going on.
You know, the way you tell your cat to get off the table by giving it a nice piece of chicken and telling the cat it can't get chicken by coming to the table again.
What infuriates me are subs that act like nothing is happening. I can understand not wanting to get involved with drama but actively supporting the devs by pretending everything is fine is vile to me.
To those people who looked back and are shocked by how horrid that place is: yes, it was always that bad, full of hatred and despair, you just never realized it until you've experienced something good here.
The most important thing for us then is to keep this place good. It's not going to be easy, but we'll try.
Could handle that, the spam and bots, malicious actors, are what pushed me out with the third party app ban.
IMO the protests are having an effect. I haven't been on there for 2 days (full disclosure: was given 1 week suspension under dubious pretense while I was mass editing + deleting all my comments), but, before then there was a huge undercurrent support for the protests but a lot of outright hostile naive complaints regarding them. At this point it feels like the majority of those that are willing to leave have left, and the rest is a dumpster fire of increased hostility. Everyone is angry for seemingly ridiculous reasons. You can't post anything without somebody saying something absurdly contrarian within a day or 2. TBH I really think there's a 'instill anger' bot program (and its replicants) running amok now and the moderators can't (or are unwilling to) keep up with it.
Noticed quite an increase in bot posts over on r/titanfall to the point where a retired mod wanted to return to their position to help deal with it. Given that I'm kinda moving away from Reddit I gave them their position back so that I can start moving on.
Welcome to your new home :)
For me, I check reddit like once or twice in a day where I just check what on popular and on r/all for like 5 minutes on my desktop. Also to checkout r/OMSCS and that's about it. Lemmy is where I am at most of the time now lol. I used use the official app and its so garbage but it was so addicting for me to use before the Apollo drama. Now that addiction isn't quite there anymore and Lemmy hasn't been super addicting for me and I like this feeling a lot.
yeah i found myself unthinking typing it in, but it still looks kinda garbo minus some specific niches. glad I'm here
seeing a shit ton of spam
Yeah, Spez is gonna learn what happens when you don't have free labor from the mods anymore. The janitor is not important until he fails to show up for work.
Let it burn.
Yes it's all ads and hate porn now. I saw people advocating for murder of delivery drivers and I had to drop out of that shat
I never really realized how bad reddit slowly became until I've settled into lemmy/kbin, everything is mostly peaceful here (for now, maybe)
Unironically this. It look s like chatgpt replies all over the place, mostly less than a week old accounts.
That place is dead, hopefully bots stay there
I just saw a lemming creating a chatgpt bot for here though.
Kratoz was not just another lemming on the icy tundra, but a knowledge-obsessed rodent with an insatiable curiosity. He loved exploring and learning about the world around him, which was uncharacteristic of the typical cautious and group-oriented behaviour of his fellow lemmings.
His brethren were happy following the crowd, quite literally, often migrating en masse without a clear reason. But Kratoz was an anomaly. He questioned the unending migrations and preferred poking around nooks and crannies, collecting stories and tales of the lemming world.
Through his years of exploring, Kratoz accumulated knowledge that no lemming had even dreamed of. He knew of the humans who visited their lands, of the predators that lurked in darkness, and most importantly, he knew of an unspoken lemming secret - the myth of the lemmings 'mass suicide.'
Kratoz knew that this was mere folklore, bred by human misconception. Lemmings, he knew, simply migrated when their population became too big, and due to their poor vision, sometimes, unfortunately, plunged off cliffs or into rivers, leading humans to believe they were purposefully jumping to their deaths.
Kratoz's knowledge turned into a threat when the lemming elders got wind of it. They feared this exposure would shatter the silence and safety of their world. They imagined a situation where their migration pattern was disturbed, which could lead to the endangerment of their species. They were terrified of the unknown consequences of Kratoz's revelations.
So one icy night, Kratoz was led away from the lemming settlement. His brethren pleaded ignorance, but the wise old Kratoz knew. His heart pounded, yet he held his head high, his short life filled with excitement and knowledge, rather than prolonged monotonous existence.
As the elders pushed Kratoz towards the perilous cliff, he looked back one last time. He didn't see fear or hatred in the eyes of his lemming kin but confusion and helpless submission. He wasn't being whacked because of animosity, but because of dread of the unknown.
His last thoughts before the cold wind carried him away were not of bitterness but hope. Hope that his tales and truths would someday surface, that his kin would no longer live in fear of myths and change but embrace knowledge and questioning as he once did.
That's the story of Kratoz, the lemming that knew too much and got whacked. But remember, stories never truly end. They live on, whispered on icy winds and echoed in snowy caverns, waiting for the day they can be rekindled.
I have been going back to tell people about alternatives like Lemmy. It's weird, if you just visit surface level it looks just about the same but looking more closely things feel off. Things feel a little bit more stagnant and it seems that less content is being generated. Bigger subs that have made efforts to protest seem to be more missing from popular, but others are pretending nothing is wrong and largely are unchanged.
That being said my front page is completely ruined. Like half the subs I was part of have gone quiet or are full of protest posts so it's very noticable.
Theres on going drama with subs going nsfw. For what I know NCD was forced to go into sfw mode, along with serveral other subs.
Good luck explaining to your advertisers why their ads are shown along side fighter jet hentai, mobnik cubes, and nuclear and dam schizoposting.
People should screenshot this stuff and send it to the advertisers asking if they support whatever exactly it's displayed next to.
Lmao this is how to cause some serious damage right here
You got ideas my friend
Do it yourself then
NCD is nsfw again and they are meming about it.
Content on r/all has been garbage the last few days
always was... unless you could filter it ... which you needed a third party app to do... sigh
No change there, then.
Hmm, i checked out the FP and a few of the subs I used to frequent. Front page seems to have more TikTok style crap than ever, like "guy gets punched!" or "someone makes annoying food!". Relationship advice: "get divorced!!".
City subs seem about the same as before. Medical subs I used to read seem about the same and holy shit, am I glad I'm not reading those every day. Same questions and memes that have been rotating through for like 5 years, and the confounding pattern where the community consensus on issues changes from week to week or post to post. One week it's "this term is offensive and I hate it" and 50 people are "YEAH! That's right!" and then the next, "don't you know about this term, it's perfectly valid" and 30 people are "YEAH! Use your brain if you have one broo!!". And the questions like "does anyone else with this condition suffer from these extremely common effects that are listed in every medical article about it?" So anyway whether reddit has gotten worse or not, seems like I was ready for something different.
That rules, but for the wrong reason.
I have been enjoying Lemmy a lot that I did not even care for Reddit, seems that they finally killed Boost, and I was not even aware LMAO.
No joke there are chatgpt bots going around, even in smaller subreddits.
It had been steadily getting worse over the past month and since July 1st it’s fallen off a cliff really. It actually seems noticeably quieter imo.
The Finnish language r/Suomi is shut down so the Finn's have moved to the English language r/Finland, making it all confused with languages now.
Most subreddits are no longer private, but a lot of them are still protesting in various ways. If I were an advertiser viewing the chaos on Reddit, I'd hold off on buying ads there.
I only used Reddit for reading, haven't had an account in a long time. I checked r/all the past few days and it's had basically the same top stories every day. After seeing all the same things again today, I decided I'm not going back, just a waste of time. Any interesting happenings in the world are making it to my All/Top Active Lemmy RSS feed. Let's keep it up!
Let's be honest most of us were there for the plethora of niche pornography.
That's not true. Quite a few of us are fine with basic, mainstream smut
r/watchitfortheplot was about my top sub TBH.
Is there an equivalent here yet?
LemmyNSFW
"Inflammatory US politician said something inflammatory and proposed a new bill mandating we lock toddlers in cars."
Yeah, no thanks.
Reddit has been going downhill for a long time now. People are looking at this and expecting it to be the nail in the coffin. When really, it's one of many nails and probably not the final one. Many powerful people still got a lot of money riding on it.
One of my most frequentes subs (/r/soccer) is seemingly working as normal. No changes or differences, before and after the protest. No real replacement for it on Lemmy yet
Look up lemmy.world/c/football basically r/soccer and it's growing
Write it like this:
[email protected]and it will turn into a link that fits whatever instance you are on: ![email protected]The client should be able to do this tho. Users would usually want to copy paste a link instead of converting it.
That's a nice community, thanks!
The mods of a gaming sub I frequent marked it as NSFW to prevent Reddit from earning ad revenue. There's some discontent from a vocal minority of users about the change.
What are the odds that vocal minority are bots?
Kinda low, there are genuinely people who are only on Reddit for the content and will be angry at any kind of disturbance.
Seems to be nearly business as usual. There are still fuck spez posts and some are still blackout or marked nsfw. Boost was still working fine until today so I kept using it
I'd signed up for an account here once the ridiculousness started, but didn't start frequenting until just now (first post) because Boost stopped working completely. Ah well, definitely not installing the official app. I was over there for 12 years or so too. I have a feeling lurkers won't really care and keep using the site just like there are people who still use Facebook and what-not, but it certainly won't ever be cool again.
Thanks for the heads up, I was not aware they flipped the switch for this one too.
Yeah we had a few extra days but its truly over now (first post too!)
I'll be honest I revanced the RIF app so i can still use it like I always have for the time being until it breaks. I don't notice much difference, but since using Lemmy it's really made me notice how crap Reddit had actually become. I genuinely check Lemmy more and post more here. It's more engaging and so far the people are nice. I'm still new here tho and still finding my feet on navigation etc but it's making a lot more sense now!
I probably will still check Reddit on RIF whilst it still works as I do like the niche subs and they are still active for me. I did initially try the official Reddit app and jesus what a mess that is, I will not use it once RIF permanently breaks. So I'm still there but more lurking than posting.
"revanced the RIF app"
What magic is this? I only used RIF and cannot stand the reddit app.
Here's a step by step. I'm assuming it will only work if you have android tho
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wHvqQwCYdJrQg4BKlGIVDLksPN0KpOnJWniT6PbZSrI/edit?usp=drivesdk
The tutorial works for me as well, but keep in mind that RiF is not being actively developed anymore, so as he said you can still use it until it breaks.
It’s had a noticeable drop in quality since the protests. Still has loads more content than Lemmy, but Quantity ≠ Quality. I still check it for news/worldsnews/politics, but there’s really nothing important even there that isn’t on Lemmy as well.
I was wondering if what reddit did was on purpose to lower their pre-IPO valuation so insiders could get a better price before it goes public. After the IPO they entice people back with reasonable API policy and then they can demonstrate huge user growth to boost stock price... Nobody working with investors on preparing for an IPO is going to do something this stupid without major pushback from the investor advisors.
Watch this space...
There ain’t really shit there it feels like. Scrolling through all feels bad and the Reddit app just spams adds and sucks ass. I’m here now, against my wishes 🤷♀️ but I want to see good news and shit. Not garbage
Relay for reddit is still a thing. But it will soon go over to a subscription model.. I've used that app for god know how many years now. This sucks so much.
But I notice that I use Lemmy far more now. So whatever really.
Really? If it does and the other remaining apps do too they're going to lose even more people. Only reason I've still been popping in is because of relay. I hate the app compared to what RiF was, but it's been good enough. No way am I paying a subscription to access reddit, and I'm not using the official app after all this either.
It's either that or no relay for reddit at all. So it's up to you to decide if you want to use it or not..
Lots of bot posts, and under them, lots of lively conversations between the bots.
The Dead Internet Theory begins
What does this theory says, the Internet dies?
The idea is that a point of time will come that real people on message boards will become the minority as bots of all flavours numerically dominate conversations. You maybe won't even realize it but you'll primarily be interacting with bots. I'd maybe call it "lonely internet" as real people can't even FIND eachother with the dilution of bots.
Genuine question, how to notice whether they’re bots or real people?
Well, exactly. Pretty sure Reddit knows, but how does any user know?
Many subs seem to have lost most of their activity.
I will go on to check the Ukraine subs as I have friends in Ukraine. I also check out some local ones, and also /PICS as it's now NSFW so Reddit can't get any money from that. In the Ukraine and Local ones, I do take a lot of posts and put them here to help out the communities here grow.
Deleted my 15 year old Reddit account yesterday. It’s the same shit over there as per usual.
There will be better things. I hope it’s here. I just worry once the corps realize a competitor what they’ll do to it. (Bots, law suits, what else?)
For the most part, business as usual, but I did notice that on tech subs, the average comments were a lot meaner and ruder than usual.
They updated the mobile site so it no longer hounds your to download their app!
No they didn't. It was just hounding me today when reddit was popping up as Google results.
Just A B testing things likely
Someone a couple of weeks ago said they're doing an A/B test to completely block mobile users unless they download the app. What a disgusting company.
Funny how they get desperate, no?
Feels like the type of content posted on Reddit these days are one of those low-effort meme-like posts that you'd often seen on Twitter.
I've been farming it for content for a few communities here. The last month worth of content is pretty bad. Where before 8 in 10 posts were on target now maybe two in 10 posts are on target.
Moderators are kind of over the b******* in many of the subreddits.
I have not been entirely off reddit yet, party to message mods in communities I like if they haven't moved yet, to ask them if they will.
Business as usual there but traffic is down. Dumpster fire mods, bad taste, shitty discussions, everything you expect is still there.
Business as usual for the subs I frequent. I wish they'd move over to Lemmy but the infertility/IVF group is a super tight knit community and likely won't move over. I've known most of the users for 5 years. If it weren't for them I'd have deleted my Reddit account but all I did was delete the official app (I had the Reddit app and RIF).
Repost bots are way up, and covering the front page. I suspect in an attempt to make it look like business as usual.
It could also be partly because mods left and no longer take a chunk of it away through active moderation.
I unsubbed from all my main 'normal' subs. The only stuff in my feed now is nfsw stuff (yes, porn) and that all seems to be mostly unaffected but I've noticed that the content isn't as active.
A large chunk was spam posts with posting tools I believe. I'm guessing those are now affected by the changes. I don't know if permanent or temporary.
For me, it has gone to normal. All the subreddits I frequented are open and populated with the exception of one which has been permanently privated, but not to protest.
R/pics is still all John Oliver and r/video seems to be just people spamming bullshit.
r/videos is only posting text descriptions of videos instead of the videos themselves.
I only go back to check up on my Ukraine multireddit I made a year ago to keep up with the news of the ongoing conflict.
Once that conflict is over I won't have a reason to go back there anymore...
I monitor the Ukraine situation in both the /c/ukraine and on Mastodon by the Ukraine War Bulletins and News account. I don't miss Reddit for that
Excellent link, thank you for posting that
I monitor many Ukraine subreddits using the old subdomain to see what’s happening over there, only now it’s once a week.
Boost for reddit is still working so I still go there. Many subs are fighting, including /r/noncredibledefense. There are a lot of subs going NSFW but reddit is forcing them to go back to being SFW. /r/NCD is genuinely NSFW at times so i'm not sure what will happen to them. Once Boost for Lemmy comes out, i'm hopping onto lemmy fulltime :)
Sports, games, tech support subs I frequent all seem to have the similar level of activity as before all this came down.
The smaller subs I regularly visit are back to normal.
Yeah, I feel like all the techy and nerdy folks left and came here. Made in a few weeks the more niche subs will move.
Even with ad blocking on maximum and Privacy Possum to twist the knife, the few times I had to, it felt... dirty. I'll make the extra effort of loading a cached version of the
old.subdomain, but even so.I might check it out once a week to see the dumpster fire using the Stealth app on f-droid. It's read-only, doesn't support accounts, and has a web scrape mode in the settings which still works for porn.
I still visit a few small, specialized subs. None of the population of the subs has had any interest in leaving reddit because there's almost no noise in the signal already.
It is very specific as to which subs died and which have continued without much change. My feed is mostly unchanged over at reddit minus maybe the startrek subs that made a hard move.
I still haven't found "ACTIVE" lemmy equivalents to a number of subs and search results still drive me back to reddit to read really good technical threads.
Also this community and other threads like it are somewhat annoying.. So much talk about Twitter and Reddit here instead of building other interesting content.
Tbf, this is a Reddit community. If you don't want to see stuff from this community either unsub or hide if from your All/Local feed.
True I can hide this community (it came up in my all) but there is SO MUCH discussion about Reddit everywhere on Lemmy .... Wish I had key word filters for posts.
That's just the nature of it at the moment. It's not different to having to deal with swarthes of headlines or posts anywhere when something big is happening.
r/memes is back to normal btw. and yes reddit's made its decision.
I visit some technical subreddits and many of them, particularly open source centric ones, kept up the blackout long enough that people went elsewhere. It's difficult to discern between having a slow week or the active posters moving elsewhere, though. Popular subreddits are mostly back to normal, but the more niche ones, whose diversity and quantity were the draw of reddit for me, are far from business as usual.
I have noticed a lot more downvoting going on and snarkier comments than usual.
That just sounds like more of the same, I don't visit there anymore but before I left you already couldn't say the sky is blue without some angry conservative coming out to tell you that it's actually green.
I have a few subs that I keep subscribed to but it is only a small handful. Basically I am done with that site. One or two refreshs and maybe a post. If I don't find the right communities here, I will just break down and create them.
Truthfully, nothing changed from my perspective. I mostly use some sports subs, a couple of technical subs, and book subs and they've fully gone back to how they were and seem as active as they were. Many mods in those subs received backlash after re-opening for even protesting at all, since many users didn't know or care about the issue to begin with.
This has been my experience also. Sports, games, tech support subs all seem the same as ever.
Depends. For me, all the subreddits I care about have reopened. But I wouldn't say back to business as usual
I use it during work hours as a time waster, with uBlock on because fuck spez.
Totally dropped it on mobile tho, using only wefwef on my phone :)
Tell us dear Redditors, is r/foodinbutt still going strong? It's the only sub I miss
I was a Reddit addict for years and somehow missed that subreddit. I'm not sure how I feel about it either, as now my curiosity has been struck.
On that note, I gotta know if r/buttsharpies is still going as well
Well, the (kind of) opposite is online: https://teddit.adminforge.de/r/poopfromabutt
Don't click
Of course it's a German hosted website 🤣
My main page feels about the same, maybe a bit more sparse and slow. But I have about 650 subs in my filter list, which includes most of the big, popular subs, so if there was much impact on the popular areas I probably wouldn't see it.
I am someone who posts art somewhat regularly on Reddit, and I cansay that all of the subreddits that I posted art to has been un-private, so it's business as usual for me
Consider starting posting to the fediverse as well. You lose moral rights to your artworks when you post to Reddit. Many artists are already on masto, misskey, etc.
The porn is still decent, but it does feel like a lower quality overall than I’m used to.
My app only really stopped working yesterday.
I wouldn't say massively different, but I do find it pretty stale content wise recently. Only started using Lemmy today and worry that it's just a bit empty content wise for the moment...
I’m read only now. Haven’t logged in to my accounts since beginning of June.
I use “old.reddit.com”, but otherwise content/posts/comments are all on lemmy now.
I went through the oficial app to check how r/pics is, for exemple.
It doesn't even show on the search bar. The only way to go to the subreddit is by searching on google.
They are hidding the protests. As for the content, it seems it has decreaded. I don't enjoy it as much. Right now I just lurk on some subreddits, but do not intereact (I refuse to contribut and create a new account).
I stopped posting after I nuked my posts and edited all my comments. If I am searching on Google for something and the answer is on Reddit I will visit it. Otherwise I just visit 2 country subs(from 100+ I was subscribed to), mostly for news but I use libreddit and I am logged out. You can pick one from here https://github.com/libreddit/libreddit-instances/blob/master/instances.md , I mostly use https://r.nf
I was on Reddit for about a decade. I scrolled around yesterday. Any good sub I followed is either abandoned or taken over by the same garbage the other generic subs post. It's kind of pathetic.
Neither. The content is just gone. Whatever is there is just low effort garbage or botted reposts
/r/casualuk seems unaffected and thats about all i go back for
It almost seems like business as usual, but there are definitely fewer posts, and people don't seem to be posting as often. And you can tell in some of the subs that the mods have taken a step back to some degree.
Why hasn’t r/circlejerk can’t to lemmy out kbin yet? I like seeing them once in a while
If there ever was a place and time that "if you make it, they will come" was true, it's here and now.
Sync user & 13 yrs using Reddit pretty much daily. I've deleted my account & can't see any reason to go back to that kind of usage but there are one or 2 niche subreddits that I do still occasionally have a nosey at via a browser.
It was going back to normal, but now they’ve made an even bigger fuckup (removing the ENTIRE AWARDS SYSTEM) so it won’t last.
Just stop being curious, don’t be like that weird ex gf who keeps checking up on your socials ‘just cause she’s curious’
It's an Internet community not a human being, and no one read dating it, weirdo
i dont like the whole instance thing, why do i need to have several websites instead of just one united one, its annoying.
Reddit is doing fine. You can just browse to their website and check it out you know.
Haha thanks, I am aware they are/have a website. But the dark side is strong and corruptive, so I’m afraid I will want to go back if I go check it out.