Spyke
lemmy.one

I think that a basic lifestyle should be affordable for a basic person

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NotSpezreply
lemm.ee

Found the left-wing extremist! /s

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discuss.tchncs.de

i’m gonna go one further:

i think everybody should be allowed to live a decent enough life, whether they can work or not.

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lemm.ee

I'll go even further and say that meeting the needs of a population is the only point of having a society at all.

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that almost sounds like… anticapitalist propaganda! Can’t have that! Back to your cubicle, worker #33458!

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Nowynreply
sopuli.xyz

I don't think that is an old person trait. You are just secretly Nordic.

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The concept that all employed people deserve a living wage is only unpopular among employers and landlords.

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All this automation should mean that there's less work to do for everyone's needs to be met. Not sure where all this scarcity came from.

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lemmy.sdf.org

My OPT is that you should be able to buy and own your software instead of perpetually renting it.

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lemmy.world

My old person trait is to inform people that they meant to say "fewer."

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chonreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Haha. I typed it that way out of laziness, sorry 😺

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chonreply
lemmy.sdf.org

Thanks!

I've been a happy Linux user since 99 and Mandrake was my first distro 👌

Still, the only piece of (subscription-based) software that's keeping me from deleting the windows partition: Premiere pro 🤡

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tr0nixreply
lemm.ee

Thanks for that link. Honestly. I think an old thing is that I’ve gotten used to convenience and a going through a list like that sometimes doesn’t seem worth the time even though I know deep down that it is.

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You gotta get on that private tracker shit. Public trackers are always terrible and are more risky.

I'm not sure if the Lemmy piracy instance has an Open Signups thread, but might be a good idea to keep an eye out. It's worth it.

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feddit.ch

You can. I think it's called "pirate bay", but don't quote me on that. ;)

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When I was younger I would be there with you. Now as I’m older I just want it to work and the Pirate Bay is hit or miss sometimes.

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Half joking. Pirated apps are sometimes sketchy, but you can get older versions of things that just worked. Alternatively there's Linux and the open source world, which has never let me down.

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I'm so goddamned sick of Microsoft and its greedy bullshit. I just looked at a recent KB update from them and the article must have breathlessly mentioned the word "subscription" 50 times.

After years of being a MS corporate stooge type, I finally started messing around with LibreOffice. It can read MS Office files. Check it out if you haven't already.

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I don't think you can "own it" in the traditional sense, but I'd be ok with a software purchase being a perpetual license for the specific version you purchased.

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lemmy.ml

My old person trait is that none of the things mentioned in the linked image happened on accident.

They happened because capitalism doesn't give a fuck about anything except bleeding as much money as conceivably possible out of each and every human.

  1. Apps allow companies to suck more data out of your device than a website, allowing them to sell more of your data and... make more money.

  2. Video games needing access to the internet is simply Digital Rights Management and a way to prevent piracy and... make more money. Remember, most companies view something pirated as a "lost sale," not that you would have never purchased it to begin with. As Gabe Newell once said:

“We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem,” he said. “If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate’s service is more valuable."

  1. This one speaks for itself. Being able to be in control of the products you buy is freedom. Having products controlled remotely by a corporation is giving them carte blanche to make more money off of you.

  2. Removing accessible customer service means more people will just give up on trying to get their problem solved, effectively allowing the company to steal from people and... shocker... make more money.


I agree, in theory, in respect to ghosting, but we live in a society that teaches us to be isolated, and doesn't teach interpersonal skills unless the interpersonal skill is "Fuck you, got mine." (which is, not surprisingly, a thing about making more money.)

In other words, these aren't old people opinions. These are "I'm not gonna let capitalism absolutely fuck me endlessly" opinions.

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At least in Europe I suspect those of us who grew up before neoliberalism took over in the 80s have a different take on the normality of the whole "being treated as a mark to scam money of 24/7" thing...

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KSP Atlasreply
sopuli.xyz

In terms of piracy, I wonder how much could be prevented by having demos, like Factorio does

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Demos used to be everywhere back in the day! I think they have a huge impact, because it's a way to try to play a game without dumping all the money on it without knowing what the gameplay is like and if its actually fun.

When I was a kid, DOOM having the first episode of the game available as shareware was huge and I used to walk to my friends place after school and watch him play until he would get bored and let me play for a while.

From an old interview in 1999 with John Carmack about this very subject (emphasis mine):

Carmack: DOOM 2 was explicitly a commercial release. We sort of half heartedly did some shareware distribution with Quake, but I think the industry has almost unanimously decided that the three or so level demo is the best test vehicle.

A lot of people consider themselves to have "finished DOOM" when they just finished the shareware episode.

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Funny how Steam has been making sales and events around demos for a while (called Next Fests) and some games absolutely blow up out of nowhere thanks to them.

Also some people think FF16 having a demo was some weird, oddball marketing move by Square Enix, except they have been making "try now, continue later" demos for games since Bravely Default.

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onlinelyreply
lemm.ee

Where do I sign up to buy the awards around here?

Kidding…great post, tho

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That's what the emojis are for. Unlike the shitshow most of us just came from, here it doesn't cost real money to add a tiny picture of 🏅 to a comment.

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It's specifically capitalism driven by GDP. Capitalism is bad but adding GDP is like removing any ethic and moral compass.

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  • Well said, I'm going to save this for when my friends inevitably say something about it and I have to explain why the economy, expessially in the US sucks and why I might eventually leave
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lemmy.ml

I think cars should not be dependent on a touch screen for ANY of it's functions (or really have one at all). They are more difficult to use than tactile buttons, distracting, and do not receive long term support from the OEM.

What do you do with a 10 year old car that runs but the touch screen nuked due to age, firmware bugs or mechanical damage? Ford isn't going to be selling replacement units 10 years later and I have yet to see an 'infotainment' system that has aftermarket replacement considerations.

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Indiereply
lemmy.fmhy.ml

Totally agree with this one.

I drive an old 06 and I much prefer using the the physical buttons to adjust things like music, volume, air settings. Even prefer using it to back up and having to use my mirrors and look back.

My '18 vehicle is all touch screen, cameras,etc. While the a/c functions better and I don't feel like my fillings are going to fall out from all the rattles and bumps, I find there is a real disconnect. I am even asked by others why I lean over and look at the back window when reversing.

I work in tech and I don't trust tech.

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onlinelyreply
lemm.ee

“If you think technology will solve your problems, you don't understand technology—and you don't understand your problems.” - Bruce Schneier

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Yeah, I have the same experience: if you've worked long enough in Tech you know its limitations and all the ways it can go wrong hence being a bit skeptical about "high"-tech solutions for things which work fine already with "low"-tech.

Also, you're well aware that deep down it's still people having made all the decisions about how it works, only it's people one level away from end-users (people doing stuff directly for people see how actual recipients of the services react and respond, people doing stuff which then does stuff for people, do not) so the design is often worse when there is Tech in the middle. This explains the fashion-following fad of using of touch screens in cars for functions that are interacted with when a person is driving and supposed to be looking at the road.

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lemmy.world

I spent a decade as am automotive locksmith, and watching things regularly fail on cars that passed through my shop has made me terrified with the touch screen. I cannot imagine replacing one of those and how easily first parties can lock replacement behind getting it done at one of their shops.

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Yes! I love my car's touchscreen for navigation and CarPlay, but having physical buttons for volume, A/C, etc was a must.

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Yep. 100% agree. My new-ish Toyota RAV4 strikes an acceptable balance with touch screen vs real buttons/knobs. I don't think anything critical is on the touch screen except maybe the equalizer. The touch screen isn't massive either, but big enough to have a useful backup camera display.

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My old person trait is that when I purchase a printer, I should be able to use whatever is the cheapest compatible ink without the printer treating me like I'm smuggling unicorn blood out of Narnia

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my old person trait is thinking that all of the above are extremely reasonable expectations and it's a sad world we live in where most of those aren't the case anymore

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lemmy.fmhy.ml

My old person trait is that I think I should be able to have anything I purchased repaired/serviced by whomever I wish, with whatever parts they deem acceptable.

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I prefer written guides to video guides.

Video has some clear advantages when showing off a 3D space and otherwise, but I dislike pausing them over and over. Especially if my hands are covered in oil and grease, a paper version is superior to a screen.

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lemmy.world

For the love of god stop with the QR code menus. I don’t want to have to scroll up and down a million times to figure out my order.

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sopuli.xyz

I'm actually OK with QR code menus, but only when done well. It's nice to be able to place an order and pay anytime without having to wait for a waiter to come by or have them constantly bother you.

However, I've run into a lot of really poorly done QR code menus that just don't work 50% of the time.

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Experientially, sending the whole party to their phones is a buzz kill and I’d reckon likely causes delays in ordering and consensus as people get distracted. Conversely, some places let you pay the check on mobile which is choice as fuck.

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QR menus are the first thing that popped into my mind too. SO irritating.

There's two places (one restaurant and one brewery) near me that was only QR menus for a long time and recently they've switched back to physical ones and it's so much better

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Plus, my shit phone takes multiple attempts for the reader to actually work, then I have to download the PDF for the menu (one of the reasons my phone is shitty is because everything fights for device storage space).

Just give me the plastic coated pages of a menu to page through. I promise I won't wipe my boogies on the pages or lick my fingers while browsing.

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I refuse to use subscription software. If I can't buy it outright, I either use an alternative or take to seas.

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my old person trait is that you should keep your internet identity completely separate from your real one

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As someone who works in a call center, screw that last person on here. So sorry you hate the automated system. Sorry you had to wait on hold. They can't keep enough of us employed because y'all are fucking mean and no one wants to be abused for $15/hr.

Er, I mean, Thank you for calling, sorry about your wait!

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In regards to OP's comment about ghosting, I just want to ask, are you a man? Because women all-too-often have to deal with men who can't take no for an answer, and some of those men go from mad to violent very quickly. You might say "well, no man should act that way, they should be able to hear 'I don't want to see you anymore' and just accept it and move on" but the fact is they are not all able to do that. So should women do the respectful thing and stop ghosting, even though some of them definitely WILL end up being yelled at/attacked/killed?

(I know my example doesn't cover all situations involving ghosting, like for instance if the ghoster is a man. If you want to modify your claim to be 'ghosting is unacceptable, except in cases where having a face-to-face conversation could put someone in danger' then I guess I'd agree with that statement. It's just that it's really hard to know which person will be dangerous when they are turned down.)

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My old person trait is I shouldn't have to scan a QR code for the menu at a sit-down where I'm dropping $100 on entrées. Give me a dang physical copy of the menu!

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lemmy.ml

I think I should be allowed to order food from a restaurant without needing to scan a QR code which requires me to have a smart phone and an active, paid plan in order to access their menu.

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lemmy.world

Yes! My OPT is that people shouldn't have their phones out when you're out for a meal. The whole QR code menu thing forces you to start your outing staring at your phone!

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Jimboreply
yiffit.net

Wait, you mean you're sat down AT the restaurant and you need to get out your phone to view the menus???

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Sadly, yes, and just like @PurpleFairy I don't like to get my phone out during meals so it bothers me to start my meals with my girlfriend, friends, or family that way.

But also not everyone has a phone with a paid plan so this is a class and an accessibility issue. And I'm not going to use my phone to scan some random, potentially unsafe QR code. I put in too much work into my digital security to then go and do something like that.

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I'm on the fence about this. On one hand I don't get handed a wet plastic menu someone has just wiped off, or maybe has dried sauce on it. Also it is easier for them to add updates to their menu digitally instead of using a sharpie to cross through items and prices that no longer apply. But I also agree having to look at the whole menu on my small phone screen isn't the best experience.

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I hate all websites that move things around as they load. If I see a button, that button should stay where it is when I try to click it.

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My old person trait is dislike of video-form social media. I consider blaring my phone speakers at max volume disrespectful to those in my surroundings and generally annoying.

Hence why my social media of choice was reddit and is now lemmy+kbin. It's mostly text posts and images.

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My old person trait is I hate short-form videos e.g. Instagram reels and TikTok videos. The back and forth boomer vs millenial vs gen z videos remind me of someone who is talking to themself with different personalities.

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I want a proper headphone jack on my phone! Bluetooth can be convenient, but I prefer wired headphones.

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My old person trait is thinking a family should be able to live in a house if one member has a stable job (maybe two people if both are at minimum wage).

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My old person traits are most of all posted here because I am an old person.

But I'll add that my old person traits is that I think a living wage should support... er... living, including a place to live, food to eat, paying for services, buying clothes, getting decent public health and education, and even have spare money for your free time (hobbies, eat out, theatre, concerts, etc.).

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I prefer landscape videos over vertical videos. I still remember when vertical videos were clowned on so hard that there were songs written about it. Now it's how everyone consumes their content!

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lemm.ee

My old person trait is only tipping if someone is actually providing a service for me. I don’t tip at all if I’m lifting a finger for anything.

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my old person trait is remembering that it didn't use to be this hot in the summer where I live.

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My old person trait is thinking that the internet shouldn't just be a place to sell products.

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My old person trait is that I'm unreasonably annoyed by people who don't write in full, correct, complete sentences, punctuation and grammar included.

Something interesting I've found is that people use 'lol' to show disinterest or mock the person they're replying to, not to show amusement. And that's not the kind of person I really want to engage with.

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The idea of "keep it simple, stupid" is lost. Everything, from beauracracy to apps to games to social interactions, is mired in unnecessary complexity that makes it difficult for everyone to keep up. I want a simple website with information that I need (thank you Wikipedia for upholding this). I want an airline loyalty membership without insane fine-print rules. I want to tip services based on service provided and not mess around a tablet's interface. I want dental insurance where I'm not leaving the office with a bill that's almost half my rent becuase they did something my insurance said in fine-print wouldn't cover. Maybe these aren't "old person" traits and I'm just here venting. But damn if I don't miss when certain things were simpler.

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lemmy.ml

My actual old people trait is that there should be two spaces after a period. I will die on this stupid fucking hill. Even though computers automatically change it to one space. Like here.

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I'd downvote but I've come to the understanding that I shouldn't downvote if I disagree, so... Take my upvote, truly an old people trait

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deegeesereply
sopuli.xyz

It was necessary with typewriters.

Then the earliest word processing programs didn’t do layout well, so the habit made the leap to computers.

Then years later it’s seen as an old person’s habit by people who’ve only ever known systems with smart text layout.

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lemmy.ml

One of the best conversations I ever had was when I had taken psilocybin mushrooms and was wandering around downtown and found my way to the local typewriter museum.

I was stoned out of my gourd, but wildly, I don't think that was evident to the historian, because he eagerly answered all my questions and showed me all manner of typewriters and early word processors.

It was wonderful. We truly do stand on the shoulders of giants, all of humanity stands on the knowledge of those who came before. The history of technology is amazing.

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Or he knew and just loved getting the chance to talk to someone who was currently enraptured by facts about his passion.

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I'm a historian and I would gladly talk at length to anyone about my particular fascination of the moment, no matter what they took or how high they are. I think I would even enjoy it more if a person was on psychedelics because they are way more open-minded and curious than sober people.

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Well before typewriters the space left after a period could be huge like 5-20 spaces (hand written or in printed books) even though we don't have typewriters dictating it it does help readibilty.

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I succumbed to the single-space-after-periods madness a few years ago. I'm used to it now, but the transition was hard.

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I had a crush on this science teacher and HE was old enough to use two spaces. So I did. And 20 years later I still haven’t shaken it.

I don't know why but this is so adorable. Thanks for the cute story.

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lemmy.ml

It just looks nicer and less crammed together!

Two spaces after the period vs. one space after the period is English major equivalent of "tabs vs. spaces" for computer science majors.

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lemmy.world

Just had a flashback of Silicon Valley where the girl is spacing five times instead of pressing tab 😂. But I agree the extra space just makes the sentences easier to read for me.

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The worst part about Gmail is that pressing tab doesnt do anything and just highlights different elements. Unfortunately I still have to use it for school

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It has the advantage of distinguishing abbreviations (e.g. "e.g.", "i.e.") from sentence stops, so that's why the GNU coding standards recommend using two spaces in code comments, to allow emacs to be able to properly detect sentences and correctly use commands like (backward-sentence, forward-sentence and kill-sentence)

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BCsvenreply
lemmy.ca

Computers automatically change it?? I see two spaces here In what you wrote. Typically phone and things like word have settings to show double space after period as single or not and some android keyboard apps auto correct spaces. But I hate single space it makes it hard to read. Punctuation and Capitalization it helps the reader.

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lemmy.ml

Try highlighting what I wrote. Even when I edit it, it will show the two spaces I added, but when it posts to the website, the formatting is changed to a single space. When I go to highlight and copy any of the text I posted, only single space.

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I did this. i see single space after comma and two after the period. Both visually, and character wise pasting into text editor. Must be your phone app or browser being used, and the respective settings.

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beehaw.org

Dumb TVs, its either 1.5k plus or you will literally never find one. I don't wanna be profiled or have some stupid android is on it. All it needs to do is display images on screen.

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I have a few. And I'm not even that old (mid thirties)

  • People who talk on phone calls using airpods or similar look ridiculous in public, like they're utter lunatics talking to themselves or their imaginary friend.

  • people who view life through their mobile phones are unfortunate and sad. Like...why pay money to go see a gig if you're going to view it through your phone screen? I went to a wedding last week and I was one of the very few who was actually watching the procession with my own eyes rather through a camera app.

  • Not being on social media should be an accepted norm, not a fucking exception. This is an issue when dating, unbelievably.

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These are not old person traits, these are just things that most people agree upon.

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When I buy an aplliance or something simple like a speaker I don't want to have to connect it to the web to work properly. I want to just plug it in and use the function I bought it for.

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For me, I miss the days when you could browse a website without popups for cookie consent, creating/signing up for an account, paying them money, and disabling your ad blocker.

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My old person trait is that most of these sound like very recent problems

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I DO NOT owe you a text back. If I'm not physically w you, I owe you very little in terms of interaction. I come home, throw my phone under the bed, and ignore till morning, and I prob won't answer you then either. It's not personal...usually.

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possumpat.io

Mine is that a cellphone should be a phone first, instead of being a shitty computer first and a celllphone as a distant afterthought.

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cornbreadreply
lemm.ee

This might be the only actual old person trait in this thread (OP included). The rest is basically just “I don’t want to be fucked over.”

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fiascoreply
possumpat.io

It goes along with how they've stopped calling it a user interface and started calling it a user experience. Interface implies the computer is a tool that you use to do things, while experience implies that the things you can do are ready made according to, basically, usage scripts that were mapped out by designers and programmers.

No sane person would talk about a user's experience with a socket wrench, and that's how you know socket wrenches are still useful.

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UI and UX are different, but related, things though. Anyone who conflates the two either doesn't know what they're talking about, or is at least being very unclear and mixing up words along the same lines as calling a PC tower the CPU.

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Oof, you’re talking to the wrong guy. I’m literally a user experience designer. Not even joking.

User interface just means the styling of the website. The colors, button styles, typography, line-spacing, imagery, etc. These guys usually build out pattern libraries or design systems for the UX guys and developers to work with.

User experience design is much more broad, hard to give a general definition. Basically try design “architect” I suppose, that creates blueprints based on data extrapolated through analytics and research.

Sometimes they go as far as to build out prototypes and deliverables for developers using the pattern library created by the UI designers.

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I disagree that you owe a face to face conversation. No one should forced to go meet someone if they don't feel like it.

In the context of dating, if you get ghosted, consider that the person is not interested in you after all - and just move on. No big deal.

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In my 40’s I feel like everything about me is an old person trait.

As a trauma survivor, all of the people I’ve ghosted in my life were toxic and bad for my mental, physical and emotional health and I have no regrets. It’s kind of like the Billy Crystal speech in When Harry Met Sally, except the opposite. When you realize you don’t ever want to see a person again for the rest of your life…you want the rest of your life to start immediately

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lemmy.world

My old person trait is when someone tells me what they mean, they better damn well be telling me what they mean, because I'm not gonna play mind games with them. If you tell me you're not upset then I'll believe you're not upset, I'm honouring you and your words and trusting that you're being upfront and honest with what you want me to know. And if you secretly are upset, it's not my responsibility to know that, you did not tell me.

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elbowdropreply
lemmy.world

I have adapted this policy. With a bunch of trying to understand why this person is acting a certain way.

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Personally I'm not great at reading people and I've found they get even more frustrated when you get it wrong than when you just don't do it. After a certain point I found myself miserable and I kinda stopped and went "wait, why is it MY job to know what THEY want from me?" And I eventually just kinda. Stopped. Most people hardly noticed because I got it wrong or overlooked it so much anyway but it was tons less stress on me, and now they knew how to effectively interact with me

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Likely an outdated one, or one that's already been given a number of times, but – Physical Books.

I'm not entirely 'anti' e-reader, the benefits are obvious. I'm just VERY pro physical book.

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Mine is that I miss the days when physical media (DVDs, VHS, etc) was the main way to own media

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I don't want an iPad glued to my car's dashboard. Touch screens are fine but the current screen sizes and placement are ridiculous. It's a car, the screen shouldn't be distracting you.

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Yeah that line was used by my abusers way to often. They just "can't understand" why I'd go no contact. As if the last 300 explanations were somehow non existent. Nope. I don't owe you anything.

And my old person trait is my walking stick I suppose.

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My old person trait is when someone offers me coffee, I look at my watch.

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10pm being late. When I was young I would stay up until 2-3 am doing stuff.

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My old person trait is that I don't like short form video, I learn and internalize less and find that my day is chipped away at by tiktok or youtube shorts when I allow myself to watch them.

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I kinda agree with you op on ghosting being unacceptable, but NOBODY is entitled to see my face NO ONE. It is not ghosting to straight up tell someone "I am no longer interested in continuing to stay in contact with you."

Likewise, my old person trait is the belief that your identity and all details pertaining to it are PERSONAL including voice, likeness, biometric statistics, location, interests - basically, the default human presence online is TEXT ONLY AND NO DESCRIPTION OF ANYTHING CONCRETE until and unless they choose to intentionally disclose more, and nobody, not one mother FUCKING person OR THING has the right to demand of you any more than that. Lastly, that you should guard your information greedily and viciously.

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Calabastreply
vlemmy.net

Ah hah, I see what you did. You changed it from "old people opinion" to "old people traits" because a trait would mean it's exclusive to old people, whereas the original posts terminology calling it an "opinion" didn't actually mean it was exclusive to old people. So the fact that all people share these opinions doesn't matter because technically a universal opinion is also an old people opinion. But it was certainly IMPLIED that these opinions would be exclusive to old people, otherwise they would just be called "opinions" and leave out the "old people" phrase altogether. Which is why you changed it to "traits", to call out the implication as being misleading. And that's why... Wait, I forget where I was supposed to end this comment.

I'm sorry about this, everyone.

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vlemmy.net

My old person trait is that I think it’s insulting for there to be an option to tip when going through a drive through.

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As someone from Europe, the fact that there is a tipping screen is annoying enough.

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BigJimreply
lemmy.world

Never ever let them ask you for a tip before you get your food. If you give no tip they will park you for 45 minutes. Tell them you'll tip cash once you get your food and see how fast they go. Then don't tip them because it's a fucking fast food restaurant and they should be fast regardless.

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lemmy.ml

because it’s a fucking fast food restaurant and they should be fast regardless.

You know, I hate tipping culture as much as the next person, but what even the fuck is this opinion?

Yeah, they should be fast, working with a skeleton crew, or all alone in the middle of the night by themselves, because management refuses to hire enough people to actually make "fast" food. They're paid minimum wage, which last I checked isn't a livable wage in pretty much most of the US.

I'm not saying they should be tipped, but I am saying you shouldn't mistreat them because they didn't make your cheap, shitty food fast enough because you're a fat lazy fuck.

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BigJimreply
lemmy.world

How am I mistreating them? I didn't tip... it's not like I went back there and assaulted them. Also I've gone for fast food twice this year and I'm technically underweight, but thanks for throwing insults. Don't bring that reddit demeanor here.

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The good thing about Lemmy is that you're the first real toxic cunt that I've encountered. You preach mistreatment then throw pathetic grade 5 insults around. I didn't read past the first paragraph of your reply since it became immediately clear that you couldn't control yourself enough to write anything worth reading.

You really need to chill the fuck out dude. This kind of behavior isn't welcome here. Disengage.

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lemmy.ml

Can't tell if this is face value mockery of younger generations willingly submitting to being fucked over by corporations for profit (maybe because of dependance on the convenience of modern technology), or if this is actually younger people making light of the abysmal state of consumer protection (probably caused by the older generation).

Maybe it's Poe's law, maybe it's a bit of both, or maybe this is just my own old person trait.

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My old person trait is I think cashless-only businesses should be illegal.

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I dislike and distrust short form video based social media. But that seems to be the common response.

IDK if I even consider that an "old person" trait though because there are lots of Zoomers that seem to hate it to. Though I wonder if that's because generational cultures are melding together more because of the internet.

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My old person trait is that I think kids today are underinformed and overopinionated, especially when it causes them to hold opinions with which I disagree. All other times the kids are alright.

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feddit.de

My old person trait is that a digital file I paid for should be DRM free.

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lemmy.ml

bandcamp Fridays babay.

DRM-free FLACs where the artist gets the full cut.

We'll see how long that lasts with Epic Games owning bandcamp.

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feddit.de

Music isn't the problem. I want to buy Movies and put it on my NAS, so I can watch it on any device with the player of my choice.

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My old person trait is that I think that the company I buy a product from should be the seller and the shipper of the product.

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My old person trait is that I don't trust paying with your phone. My whole family does it and it has never gone wrong, but I feel uneasy

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  • Just installed a messenger. It uses more RAM than my first PC had for displaying a simple, empty list. I find that inexcusable.
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I don't understand TikTok... at all. Like, what's even the point as a user?

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lemmy.world

My OPT is that if it's loud and expensive, I probably don't want to go there. And I haven't since I was 20.

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I think everybody here has an old person trait. Joining the fediverse

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If you put something in my mailbox, where it is explicitly labelled that your unregistered shit is unwelcome. I will come out and find your parked car.

Did you think your stupid shit was that important? If I am selling my house I will never use Ben Gow. Or any of the others that are too stupid to read. Those people who cannot read basic requests - "NO JUNKMAIL" meaning your advertising shit, are not going to get used.

You will never get commission (or a purchase) you dumbshit losers, too dumb to read a mailbox sign, your definately too stupid to be given the risk of selling my asset.

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My phone opens links in a browser and they don't work in the browser ¯⁠\⁠_⁠ʘ⁠‿⁠ʘ⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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lemmy.ca

My old person trait is that no one is allowed to be mad at me for not answering a random phone call. Sometimes it's ok to leave your phone in the other room while watching a movie, or (gasp!) At home while you're out gardening.

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I only answer random phone calls when I’m looking for a job.

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My old person trait is that I don't think websites should require JavaScript to render, only use JS for interactive elements that are absolutely necessary for the function of your website. I generally accept that I may have to use JS to post and comment, but to read something should never require me to enable it.

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My old person trait is nothing on the internet should expect a fee for use, streaming services excluded.

I remember the days when you paid for having the internet and that's it. No content hidden behind some patron paywall or membership fee. Content was willfully shared and distrubuted because that's what the internet is for that and infornation.

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My old person trait is thinking that you should be able to read posts on Twitter without an account.

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This is less a "old person trait" as much as it is a "7 days ago when they made it that way trait"

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My old person trait is if you have something to ask me that is going to require a detailed answer call me or email me, don't text me. I'm not going to spend time typing out a long involved answer on that freakin' tiny ass keyboard.

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My boomer trait: I don't use big social media apps like most people my age (19). You could argue that it's pretty common but it always comes up in conversation. I'd rather not be concerned about someone else’s life, but engage with people who talk about their experiences and knowledge.

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I prefer to talk to individuals on phones rather than texting a long conversation. If it's a quick question (yes/no) or short answer texting is ok. But I find it taking longer and more tedious to text out an ongoing conversation over 20 minutes versus just calling and getting straight to the point and getting the information you need in 5 minutes.

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Driving slow, leaving early and arriving early. I usually drive a bit below the speed limit, and always follow speed limit signs. It keeps people safe, even if their own impatience makes them tailgate eachother 10 cars in a row behind me. Some people like to be in a hurry when they drive and don't know how to relax and drive calmly, I've never been sure why.

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My old person trait is that I listen to old radio shows and watch a ton of classic movies and shows.

I'm 28 and don't even know when I discovered this exactly but on archive.org there's a group of people called the Old Time Radio Researchers Group who catalogue and archive all of the old radio shows. Some of the episodes sound like they could have been recorded yesterday just because they're in such high quality.

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lemmy.ml

I'm so guilty of ghosting, but I feel like it really is difficult to stay in touch with people, the more time passes. However, I do eventually answer after 2 months to 2 years from when the last message was sent, though

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Usually after 2 months I feel so bad that I don’t have the gut to reply… I hate when people ghosts me and when I do it I feel like shit! But I’m extremely introverted so sometimes I can’t function with people…

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online shopping, mainly Amazon. i would rather try 100 different stores looking for what i need than to shop on Amazon.

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lemmy.world

Everybody should be in bed by 11pm, midnight on the weekends. Nothing good happens after that. Get your beauty sleep.

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Preach. Tell your boss I said everybody needs to be in bed by 11. I'll write you a note. 👵

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It is not. If everybody would just go to damn bed, maybe it would be quiet out. 👵

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lemmy.world

I go to sleep after midnight and still sleep 8-9 hours. Doesn’t matter when you go to sleep if you sleep enough.

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lemmy.ml

Weirdly, late at night is when I'm most productive.

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I don't use my phone to pay at the POS and I refuse to do so. I will always carry around my card and use that.

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All you old people sound pretty cool honestly.

My OPT is that not everything makes me cringe. If you cringe too much your face might really get stuck like that.

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Where should I start? I like to own my music, stream it from my server @home, I like to use a calculator, just because I like them. And I like to do things in a terminal, even when it takes 5x the time and a hand full of code. I like to connect things with cables instead of wireless, still faster and more secure, got a full cupboard of cables and adapters, I even collect movies and ebooks on my drives with the thought of "the day the internet brakes down I'll be the king here". Maybe it's because I AM old?! That kind of old, there was a time I spent money for a ringtone.

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Mine is very similar. Loudness annoys me but the rest of the inconsiderate behavior that seems to be more common to teenagers drives me bonkers. My teenage neighbors moved last week. First, they did not first empty the elevator of the 50 apartment building but tried to take stuff directly to the car after cigarette break. While three people were waiting to use elevator. Then they left some furniture in entrance hall that would be whatever but by doing it they blocked two doors to building common storages that are commonly used until late next day. Another thing is littering when the trash baskets are right there. And yes, I said something and felt like old man screaming for them to get out of my lawn. I guess I have reachem my rackety old man stage while being thirty something woman.

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My OPT is that you should be able to buy and own your software instead of perpetually renting it.

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I don't use any social media except LinkedIn, and I have that set to all private. Just use it when I am looking for a job. I do stare at my phone all day though, but instead I am reading about board games, world news, and technology from other places.

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I somewhat agree with your old person trait. But not face to face. At least a text saying not interested/I don't want to hang out anymore and then ghosting. Nobody owes you a face to face conversation. Especially if they're not interested.

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Curated Tumblr content is always so much better than Twitter's. We need a Tumblr posts community in here.

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Shouting at young people who blast bad auto tuned rap music in front of my house :D Or"answering" with very very loud good rap music or black metal :D

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I remember my bestie in 1995 complaining up a storm at the ridiculousness of paying 45 cents a litre in Ontario, Canada...

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My old person trait is that if you're going to do a ticket, don't code the bare minimum saying that you'll "get back to it later". You never have time later, and now there's shitty code in our app that needs to be fixed or worked around.

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My old person trait is that cars should have physical buttons for at the very least climate control and media.

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I've never tried it but I've heard that if you swear at the cosomer service robots enough they'll automatically send you to a person. Again, never tried it so unsure. I normally just try to avoid things that require me to call CS.

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My old person trait is refusing to buy things on internet and wanting to buy them in person. The funny thing is: My mom (63) have no problem on purchasing things online; while I (31) am afraid to do that!

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i have never stayed out past midnight and i don't plan to start any time soon. if i get drunk enough and you try to keep me out i'll literally just fall asleep somewhere.

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midwest.social

My ankles crack like someone is throwing those little rock baggies that pop with every step way too often. I have declared that my wife finds it enduring despite her near constant shock at the loudness and frequency. Also her PT friends says I have loose ankles for which I am uncertain how to prepare or prevent for whatever fate has for me.

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lemm.ee

find it enduring

Did you mean endearing?

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lemm.ee

My old person trait is I think people should remove their headphones when interacting with each other IRL

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Add to this not being worried about their phone more than the people they are talking to/ or spending time with

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lemmy.fmhy.ml

Is wanting kids to get off my lawn an old person's trait?

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I literally ripped up a giant amount of my lawn to put in a shitty but sizable wildflower garden. Also ripped up almost the entire perimeter and put in an unreasonable amount of lilies to surround my property.

All because when I moved in, I saw people just casually cutting through my yard.

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Mine is that hook up culture is a lazy alternative to finding someone to build a meaningful relationship with

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lemm.ee

My old person trait is that often prefer phonecalls over text messages.

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I'm okay with instant messaging, but similar feeling.

Give me a full keyboard or give me death. I fucking hate typing on the chiclets of a virtual keyboard.

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Company call centers should - after a reasonable wait - put you in contact with a bone and flesh human and not a fucking 010001101 robot, also those humans should be paid decently, since I don't envy the insults they, unfairly, take

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I think people who deliver food should actually hand it to a person instead of just leaving it by the door.

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sopuli.xyz

I think that buying something should be more convenient than pirating in.

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That's more of a "young person" trait though. For most of the history of media that could be pirated, buying meant going to a brick and mortar store and paying ridiculous sums like $10 per song on a music record. Pirating was nearly always more convenient.

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lemmy.world

My OPT is gardening and also being so out of whatever "it" is

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I used to be with ‘it’, but then they changed what ‘it’ was. Now what I’m with isn’t ‘it’ anymore and what’s ‘it’ seems weird and scary. It’ll happen to you!

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My ye old ass trait is to take sunglasses off when talking face to face with someone, looking people in the eyes creates a more connected conversation.

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All the words of wisdom I ever needed was in Grateful Dead lyrics.

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My old person trait is that I exclusively wear bathrobes unless I begrudgingly leave the house.

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My old person trait is that anything that unnecessarily connects to the internet is suspicious and leaking my info.

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I get worked up over other people's spatial awareness, especially as it relates to walking on a sidewalk or driving. People will take up all the space on a sidewalk, they will open their doors as cars are going by, they will walk out into traffic, they move around as if other people do not exist, they will stand and congregate in the middle of a walkway. I find it wildly disrespectful and dangerous. I feel like when I'm driving people are constantly putting their wellbeing into my hands and gambling that I have the skills and awareness to not let them get in a wreck or get run over. When I am walking down the sidewalk, I feel few people are managing space in a way that keeps the sidewalk available to as many people as possible while other people are basically pushing me off the sidewalk entirely so they can all walk like a wall, or bulldozer.

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Tabs belong below the address bar on a browser, not above. Also the menu bar should always be a thing and there should be a title bar as well, not merging the two or three (including tabs) into one single bar.

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On the last one, a lot of places have switched to SMS to talk to someone faster. Even if they take just as long it's a lot less frustrating that waiting on hold.

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  1. Videos should be landscape, 4:3 preferably, not portrait.
  2. When I turn on a computer, it should be ready (and pref say READY) in a few seconds, not minutes and need Internet access.
  3. Email should be fully punctuated, have correct grammar and a premise, argument, and conclusions.
  4. I'm tolerant on short SMS or pager texts, but if it's used as immediate mail, all texts, IM, and social media messages should also be like #3.
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My old person triat is that i dont think i owe you shit and if i ghosted you it might be for a reason.

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lemm.ee

My old person trait is you should be able to order a "coffee", small, medium or large at Starbucks, without having to learn a new language.

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My old person trait is that my knees started to pop and creak in my early 20s

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My trait is I think cars are too digital and should be analogue. Giant touch panels are distracting and have generally bad UI design. You can control an A/C with 3 dials, 4 if you have zones and don’t need to look down at all. Pinnacle of engineering.

I will never own a car that has features behind a paywall or that I can’t directly control. Computer cars are fine as long as I have root.

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Taking notes with a pencil. Since everyone likes to type their notes. I don’t.

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Turning off my phone when I got home and during week end to enjoy the moment

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My old person trait is that I exclusively wear bathrobes unless I begrudgingly leave the house.

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My old person trait is that I think ‘ghosting’ is completely unacceptable and you owe the other person a face-to-face conversation.

Sadly "ghosting" is the norm where I'm from. Sadly.

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Yeah, once. Or 732 times but at some arbitrary number you have all the right in the world to ghost people IMO.

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Calling these "old person traits" is making it sound like they are no longer valid. All points in the image are things any sensible person would agree with

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dmv.social

The dishwasher (houses that have them) in most cases is located next to the sink. Put the dirty dishes in the dishwasher, let’s cut out the middle man.

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midwest.social

The way it works in this house, the dishwasher is always full of clean dishes.

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I am 18 and almost all of the traits u guys commented kind of apply to me.

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Mine is that photos should ideally be printed, not stored in a cloud somewhere that you have to pay for forever or you lose them.

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Ghosting never happened in the days when all correspondence was written

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My old person trait is being completely unwilling to use the self checkouts because they always brick out on me

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Preferring to see people in-person rather than remote. I wasn't too happy when a bunch of my coworkers switched to remote work. It's really not the same.

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My old person trait thinks far left are bloody stupid, far right are slightly better.

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