Spyke
lemmy.world

I'd take the $10 mil. Childhood seems like it would be a lot less fun if I had to go through it again but now with the jaded mind of a middle aged man.

I can for sure find a way to have fun with ten million dollars though 😉

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Punkiereply
lemmy.world

Yeah my childhood sucked, and knowing I'd have another 12 years of abuse with nobody taking me seriously because I'm a kid? No thanks. I could put $10mil to good use right now.

75

Mine sucked too but I'm trans and would kill to have known that information from the getgo rather than finding out in my 20s

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Rhynoplazreply
lemmy.world

I'm really sorry to hear that you had to go through that, and you can tell me to fuck right off if you don't want to think about it, but you got me wondering.

Do you think if you went back, you could use what you know today to prevent/avoid it and see how that changes your life?

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lemmy.world

If their childhood was anything like mine, the impotence wouldn't be fixed by knowledge.

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midwest.social

I was gonna say the same. If I had to go back the only change I would make is avoiding the cops, school councilors, relatives, and judges I thought I could trust. Every attempt we made to get away from our mom made the beatings worse.

16

Thanks for sharing. I never went through anything like that, and it really says a lot that even with an adult mind, you wouldn't know what you could do or want to risk trying. Hope you're doing well now.

9

Might be different because my abuse was psychological and covert sexual rather than physical. But for me, the inner boundaries I've learned through therapy would make a world of a difference.

2

My childhood also sucked, but I'd go back.

My parents weren't monsters, they were flawed people doing what they thought was best... If I could go back and clearly assert myself and my needs? Especially with what I know now?

I'd take that deal.

Not too mention, I'm a programmer. I know every major advancement we've made in the past decades...If I designed a language in the early 00's, I would be worshipped by all programmers. I could've made Uber when the iphone launched, and never took a dime in investments. I'd also jump forward AI tech by a couple decades - I could make the world unrecognizable. I'd be a household name, although I'd probably use a pseudonym

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lemmy.zip

10 mil is definitely easier, but if you memorized important global events and stock market crashes or explosions you could potentially build an empire. 10 mil would be chump change at that point. You could potentially maneuver yourself into positions of extreme power and help to shape the world, possibly change it for the better in the process.

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MrJameGumbreply
lemmy.world

True, but in this case I'd only be six years old. I'd be too young to really do anything about future events, and anyone who could do something probably wouldn't listen to a kid warning then about politics and finance. Somehow I feel like by the time I'd be old enough to make any of that information useful I would have either forgotten a lot of it or ceased to care. I might choose differently if I was starting at age like 25 or 30 though

12

Well I would imagine my parents would pay attention to a 6 year old with the intellect and speech capability of a fully grown adult, especially once i tell them I can predict important future events and deliver a couple examples. Then I could ask them to create a trust fund and make it invest according to my foreknowledge. 25 years later and it’s a global empire with controlling shares in all major corporations.

9

but if you memorized important global events and stock market crashes or explosions you could potentially build an empire.

That is the thing when these kinds of topics appear, I totally would commit the same mistakes all over again, hence a boring childhood (I still think I'd go back though).

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greenskyereply
lemm.ee

Gotta somehow get seed money. Even investing your allowance would only get you a couple of thousand. You're investing doesn't really pay off until you're old enough and rich enough to put real money in the game.

1

See my other comment on this. I’m fairly sure I could get my parents to listen, whom would then do the investing for me, with a lot more than just an allowance (kids can’t invest anyway).

4

Yep, red pill would be 3rd place after 'neither'. I don't need the burden of that knowledge at 6, especially without the power to act on it.

9

Plus, all of my friends would effectively be dead if I took the red pill.

My 30 year-old mind is not going to be able to get along with my friends when they were also six, and no grownups are going to want to be friends with me as a six year-old, besides pedophiles.

It'd be a very lonely few decades, and no amount of stock exchange billions are worth that for me.

I'm definitely taking the money now.

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feddit.it

If I get back to 2005 I can easily get more than 10 millions by the time it's 2024 again. Plus all the other perks of restarting your life

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lemmy.world

Yeah, get into Bitcoin at the peak investment age of ten.

Edit: JFC y'all, I'm middle-aged.

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If your family had a PC at that time absolutely. Just wait for the first inklings and start mining. It was way easier at the start. You'd be able to get several thousands pretty easy. Maybe you get some visa gift cards as a kid for Christmas, dump em in there. Or even just go to any store and use your allowance to buy one. Then sell at the peak. EZPZ

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psudreply
lemmy.world

At ten you might have a computer that can mine a couple of hundred bit coin

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lemmy.world

Were there any DOS programs for mining Bitcoin a couple decades before Bitcoin even existed?

-1

You were the one positing the idea of Bitcoin at age 10. A 10 year old in 2010 would likely have a suitable computer

0

At the start all you needed was access to any computer. Mine for an hour and come out with some bitcoin

1

Early mining required a mid-tier gaming PC, the kind you could finance with a paper route

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lemmy.ca

If I choose red, I wouldn’t be able to guarantee my daughter would be born even if I met my wife because of, well, biology, but if choose the blue pill I can make sure she’ll have a huge head start on life from this point out, so blue pill it is.

82

Exactly! In the past, I would have chosen the red pill to change decisions that I made in the past. But today there are some things in my life that are not directly the result of conscious decisions, but that I would not want to miss.

19

Yeah same. I would love to avoid so much pain and suffering I went through, so much wasted time and bad decisions, but I would not risk it if I didn't end up with my spouse and child. So, blue pill all the way. Also, 10 mil would actually solve 95% of all our problems to be honest.

7

It's the parental thing for sure. I don't want to ever go back to a time before I became a dad, that was a silly and frivolous person that inhabited my body then

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lemmy.world

Do I go back in time to when I was six (red pill then) or am I 6 in 2024 (blue pill then)?

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Technusreply
lemmy.zip

If I go back in time am I morally obligated to try to stop 9/11?

23

Did you see that episode of Family Guy? I think world events still have to happen.

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psudreply
lemmy.world

Your best bet would be to set fires in both towers, causing their evacuation.

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Technusreply
lemmy.zip

I didn't ask how to prevent it, I asked if I'm morally obligated to try.

1

Sure, but how was more fun, and I had no moral duty to reply to your actual question

1

I didn't even think of the possibility of becoming 6 now. That's a good monkeys paw scenario.

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lemmy.world

Used to want the red pill but I have a kid now. Resetting would almost assuredly cause me to end up with a different kid.

I’m team blue.

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ZoopZeZoopreply
lemmy.world

There's a related movie that I highly recommend: About Time.

22

This. My kids and my pets - I’d be haunted for the rest of my life knowing I traded them in. I’ll take the 10 mill and be happy.

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Razzazzikareply
lemm.ee

But you can do it better the second time. Also you can be rich if when you turn 18 you invest in things you know succeed like Apple, Microsoft, amazon.. granted I dunno how young you are, but I'd be going back to the early 90s, and could invest in stuff in the early 2000s

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WarmSodareply
lemm.ee

It doesn't matter how young or old anyone is. Living another 12 years as a child is not worth any amount of money.

Unless you really love the idea of going thru K-8 and then highschool again as an adult in a kids body...

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Haha, not when it's memorizations. I'd doubt I'd pass most of my exams in uni.

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psudreply
lemmy.world

With adult knowledge, but your brain would be your age. You'd have the kid ability to learn. Become fluent in another language if you want

-1

Yes, I'm aware of what we were talking about.

You don't need to be a child to learn another language.

2

Blue. No mistake reversion or bitcoin investing would outweigh possibly never meeting my partner again. With Blue, I have everything I could ever want from this life, with red, I may lose everything important to me now.

46

Blue pill. Restarting with all my knowledge, I might end up not meeting my soulmate and not having my kid, because of randomness. I can't have that.

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lemmy.world

I think between being a cute kid and BEGGING my dad who likes to gamble to invest EVERYTHING on Yahoo! From 1994 until the pets.com Superbowl commercial ad aired, and then just hardlined him into selling, he's probably be able to cut me 10 mil.

Let alone that Id be saying "Microsoft! Coca Cola! Amazon! Apple! Oracle! Pfizer! Johnson & Johnson! Berkshire Hathaway! Wal Mart! And in war years, Raytheon and Lockheed Martin! Intel! Amd! Nvidia!" The whole time.

I'd be a fucking billionaire. Straight up. It would t be gambling, it would be a free money glitch.

Timing Bitcoin right?? Doge?? Get outta here. I'd have more money than anyone on earth.

If I could redo the life I was given with all my current knowledge, 10M would be like the average size of a charity donation or a gift that I would be giving.

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lemmy.world

Nobody with money to invest is going to listen to a manic six-year-old.

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Neatoreply
ttrpg.network

A six year old that can predict major events? Besides. Just wait and invest in Bitcoin yourself or Google, Apple or MS in college depending on your age. The latter isn't as big of a jump but easily many multiples.

8
lemmy.world

Yeah, I can start investing all none of the money I'd had in college

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foggyreply
lemmy.world

I think you're mistaking how little would need to be invested.

I think my dad would start listening to his god-omen stock predicting son after a few missed billions.

"Dad listen, my college tuition? Fuck it. Put it down on Bitcoin in Jan of 2009 and sell on November 9th 2021 for ~$25T."

I'd have over 10 trillion cash after taxes. Literally would have more cash than anyone on earth.

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infosec.pub

The problem with betting on illiquid securities is that it would guarantee a change in that securities future. I’d probably stick with a big ocean of money to invest in like blue chip stocks because you personally aren’t going to change the market and if you have foreknowledge you can still make billions.

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For something like trying to turn 300k into 25T on Bitcoin, yes, absolutely.

You could 100% become a trillionaire without significantly affecting market positions, though, even with just general knowledge and ~50 $100-$10,000 investments.

Compounding interest is a hell of a drug.

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sh.itjust.works

I mean yes if you could sell out. That transfer crashes the coin I bet and may have had negative consequences to your ability to cash out.

9

He wouldn't get his terrabucks, but he'd get a gigabuck or two

1

Easy, give me the blue pill. My mistakes and choices have brought me to where I am and have made me who I am. I wouldn't change my life for anything, especially not to correct a few mistakes. Most importantly I may not have met my wife or have my kids if I change anything. I'll take the money and use it to improve the life I have.

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lemmy.ca

My brain says the blue pill because money.

My heart says the red pill because I miss my soulmate and would give anything for a chance with her again.

29

The one thing is would you end up with your soul mate again and even if you did it wouldn't be the same relationship you had back then. I thought about this and have 3 kids and don't know if I would want to give up on my kids because there's no way I could say goodbye to my kids and never see them again.

5

While I could easily get more than $10mil with my current knowledge (assuming I go back in time to 6yrs old), I would not have the same wife or child as I do now, and there's no way I'll give them up, so I'll just take the $10mil now .

27

With the red pill, do I go back in time to when I was 6 with all of my knowledge or become a different 6 year old now with all of my knowledge?

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lemmy.world

Yea, or do I become me as a six year old in the modern day?

If it was a monkey paw type of situation you'd probably become a six year old child in pre-historic times.

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Morcyphrreply
lemmy.one

You become a 6 year old in the present, and you spawn at Point Nemo.

1

Monkey paw is supposed to suck, not be instant death

1
lemmy.ml

Red one gives you both. Literally. Just buy Bitcoin or something.

26

The red pill sounds like absolute horror. I'd desperately try to get all the good things in my life back, and probably mess shit up bad.

Though on the other hand, there are obviously a bunch of "you were a young idiot"-type mistakes that I'd want to undo...

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Anticorpreply
lemmy.world

It gives you both, but at what cost? If you have a spouse or child, that's probably not going to happen again in round two. You're going to make different decisions that take you on a different life path. Even if you made the same decisions, is your significant other actually going to fall in love with you when you're going on the first date with 10 years of history already? You're not going to bring that new relationship energy with you and you're going to seem weird since you already know them so well. Even if you win them over, you won't have the same kid. The odds of the same sperm finding the same egg are millions to one, possibly even higher since you probably won't do it on that exact day. What about all your lifelong friends? Are you actually going to form meaningful relationships at 6 or 10 years old when you have the mind of a 30 year old, or whatever you are by that time? Probably not. I think the cost to go back would be very high.

10

Completely depends on your age

As a person who didn't yet get love of my life or children, red pill is a pure win

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lemmy.ml

Except it doesn't specify that you go back in time to when you were 6 years old, but that you "restart your life at 6 years of age" so a fairly reasonable interpretation would be that you'll be a 6 year old in 2024. Monkeys paw and all that.

Now, I personally think it's more interesting if it did mean that you went back in time.

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Jarixreply
lemmy.world

Thats actually even better than just restarting. I already want to make it to 120 to see what 3 different centuries looks so this would make that unrealistic goal so much more accomplishable. Also i will have an idea of what medical things im going to look into and see what options i would have as a kid today vs 40+ years ago

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Totally agree. 10 million dollars will never buy me those years back. With remote work I could probably make enough of a living to get by until I age back into adulthood. At the age of 6 I'd have a higher brain plasticity, so I literally could get smarter faster only this time I could direct all of my potential into something a little more useful then just learning how the world works. With modest investing I could easily get to 10 mil by the time I'm at my current age just due to compound interest.

And lastly I could easily reach 120, and with medical advancement who knows!

The more I think about it, being six years old again really wouldn't be that bad at all.

Edit: Assuming I'm still me but only younger, it's not like I'd have to go back to school again as I already have diplomas proving I've done that before. So I could probably just tell any potential employees that I have dwarfism until I age back up. With the right clothes, hair, and possibly a little makeup (to make me look older than 6), the second I open my mouth no one would believe I'm six and would assume I have some kind of congenital disease.

3

I'd worry about the bad side of the $10M if it's monkey paw.

Anyway I want to see the sea level rise chaos. So no down side

3

That supposes you timetravel back, which is probably what OP meant. But not 100% sure :-)

1

There's a fuck ton that I would know is coming and have absolutely no way of stopping. That is fucking hell.

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lemmy.world

Since I'm married, blue pill. If I wasn't, red pill all day. I'd be a billionaire by the age of 20

23

Same, though honestly with my bad memory, I'm not sure I'd do all that much better with the red pill. Itd be hard for me to put together enough seed money to make a decent return, and I don't remember specific dates well enough that I think I could convince my parents about it.

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sopuli.xyz

There's nearly 0% odds I end up with the same wife and kids twice and I hit the jackpot the first time around. Give me the money.

23

It would be so creepy trying for the same partner. So much of relationship building is learning about each other and you'll never be surprised by their side of those conversations

2

Wait like restart as in go back in time to the year I was 6 or restart as in become a 6 year old in 2024. Because if it's the former hell yeah stocks, bitcoin, sports betting back to the future style. If it's the latter fuck that.

23

That was actually my point, you don't go for money because you want money. You go for money because you want things money can get you, house, car, safety, status, etc (different for everyone). In this case money can't even get you what you really want, so it's a useless tool.

1

Red pill.

While I could retire right now with the blue pill, I wouldn't be happy.

Red pill means I could spend more time and cultivate a better relationships with the people who actually matter to me. I'd spend a lot more time with my great grandparents.

I could also focus on being true to who I am and not being who I thought others wanted. Basically be who I was in college... But now at 6.

Of course, I could make all the right investments to make a lot of money.

I wouldn't want to just go into the same career. While I might for a while, honestly I'd have the knowledge and money to take a run at a political career.

22

I'm not sure if people here realize this, but the interest from $10m is approximately four to eight hundred thousand dollars per year.

So, with ten million, one could instantly retire and never ever have to work again.

That's priceless freedom to me, and it wouldn't require deleting almost all of my friends, relationships, experiences, and who I am.

22

There are pros and cons. First of all, let's assume you go back to the year you were 6 instead of becoming a 6 year old in 2024 (oof). Being an adult in a child's mind, you could basically be a demi-God. You could pick stocks, pick world series winners, and even pick winning lottery numbers if you had that type of thing written down. You would also have your emotional development that you have right now. You would be seen as a wise sage-like golden child. Downside is, if you are used to having a sex life, well, kiss that good bye for at least 12 years. Another downside is living through the period of time when you're going through puberty or have to live with an abusive relative because you're a minor and can't do shit.

I think, all said and done, I'll just take the 10 mil.

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lemmy.ml

No brainer. Restart at 6 years old. Time is priceless.

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KinNectarreply
kbin.run

Red pill all the way. Personal experience gains to be had. Also of course there is the prospect of crypto billionairedom.

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greenskyereply
lemm.ee

Red pill effectively kills your current spouse and kids if you have any. Also trying to re-engineer the relationship with your original spouse all over again seems like it'd be really creepy. If you go back, you effectively need to find someone else. Couldn't do that.

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psudreply
lemmy.world

The kid won't exist. The spouse will be fine, though maybe not with you

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greenskyereply
lemm.ee

Sure, but you're throwing away your current spouse and kid in favor of a do over. That's pretty cold.

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psudreply
lemmy.world

Is it unethical to leave a partner? Should we censure Paul Simon for 50 ways to leave your lover?

(Not addressing the kid bit, since it does seem a tad cold to unexistify someone for little fault of their own, also no one but you mentioned kids)

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greenskyereply
lemm.ee

I mean if you were going to divorce your partner, then by all means take the red pill. You'd probably both be better off then. I was speaking of presumably happy marriages.

1

I guess if you're in the perfect partnership you and your partner could simultaneously take the red pill :)

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literature.cafe

Depending on your starting point there's a lot better opportunities out there that are less vulnerable to losing it all to a random hacker.

0

I'm not saying I won't be buying real estate in San Francisco, Magic The Gathering cards, and shares in big tech, but a solid backbone of 1000x value bitcoin is hard to beat on multiples.

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KinNectarreply
kbin.run

Actually bitcoin on a physical harddrive purchased at $50 or below stored in a safety deposit box is pretty ironclad.

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BCsvenreply
lemmy.ca

Bitrot might get you. printed out paper codes as a backup

3

That was a lot more difficult before BIP39 seed phrases were invented. You could of course write down anything, but there would've been a lot of room for error.

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psudreply
lemmy.world

Spinning hard drives last for decades. You can pretty absolutely protect yourself by storing two with multiple copies of the key each

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BCsvenreply
lemmy.ca

They are succeptible to magnetic degradation, its why you go to open a jpeg from 8 years ago and some are suddenly corrupt. You have to leave them in a RAID setup with sonething self healing like ZFS. They are way more reliable than cold storage SSD ( which can start bitrot in as little as a month) but for cold storage magnetic tape is better

1

Tape is just as susceptible to magnets, though it is a more stable medium. It's not like they'll be exposed to significant magnetic fields though

1

Since we get all the information we have now: the correct answer was Bitcoin Armory. You'd have a dedicated computer just for signing transactions, carried back and forth over flash drives.

2

Many of us are tech nerds. We know that those who lost bitcoin to hacks trusted coin exchanges too much.

The people who kept their wallet offline are fine Those who kept their wallet in the cloud are poor

2

No brainer. Take the money. Global warming exists. WWIII might be happening. What's the point in being a depressed 6 year-old?

3

Oh hell no, I don't want to go through school again. Teenagers are horrible to each other.

1

6 years old all the way. Ok yeah sure, investments, Bitcoin, be rich. However, I'd love to relive parts of my past that I would want repaired that money couldn't exactly fix.

I'd be a better older brother to my younger brother. Hang out with him, take him to his football games, take him to movies, play video games with him. Instead of being the douchebag party guy that ignored him. We have a good relationship now, but I wish I could've given him better memories when he was a kid of his older brother and guided him more/better.

I'd help my Mom with her addiction that took ahold of her because she couldn't cope with what happened in her childhood. Maybe she'd still be around today, instead of me being so self absorbed in my own stupid shit.

Avoid the bad relationships I was in, and have the knowledge to recognize when a relationship will go badly. Including the parts of myself that help make the relationship bad.

Maybe the money would help with some of these things, but I really think my attention and presence would be more impactful.

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lemmy.world

Red pill easy. Make note of all the stock stuff that comes over the next couple decades, gain more than 10 mill and have more life experience in the tougher times.

16

It doesn't say you go back in time to being six years old, you start over as a six year old. A six year old in 2024.

Hashtag monkeys paw.

35

It's even easier than that. Red pill, then remember to start mining bitcoin with your PC in 2009. You'll be a multi billionaire in under a decade.

14

Blue pill. I never want to relive my childhood trauma again 🤑

16

Am I transported back to 1993 with all the knowledge I have now? Or am I 6 in 2023? Because the first case it becomes ridiculously easy to make 10 million... Just memorize a single set of lottery numbers for a specific time and date... and have a little knowledge to invest in apple as soon as Steve Jobs returns to the company and Tesla when it's founded, and at that point you are a billionaire.

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Blue. Knowing what I know would make me a fucked up 6 year old. I wouldn't be able to make friends, I would creep people out or even end up in a mental institution. 10 million wold fix all my current problems. And there wold be a lot left for hookers and coke.

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lemmy.ca

I'd grab both pills and quickly swallow them just to see what would happen. I might end up a 12yo with $5million. I'd be so obnoxious

15

Even keeping time travel mechanics and ethics on the side, restarting my life at age 6 probably won’t be very helpful until I become something like 15 so I could actually do something with the knowledge, otherwise I’d probably be called a crazy kid, and couple that with the chances of me somehow fucking up everything and I would much rather have the blue pill.

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lemmy.world

Blue, would be hard to merry my x again, so I still have my son.

15

Six year old, easy choice - do something mildly special for a kid that age and get on TV then when they ask you a question the answer is 'well it was a dream i had, there was a pale horse riding towards us snd the horses name was Tod, it was going to run over everyone but an angel told me to call out to the faithful and save them....'

Kid can't even read and from an atheist family then starts quoting bible and making up complex visions and messages no child could ever create - plus very clear predictions that come perfectly true, knowledge of science before it's discovered... Admit it, you'd get sucked into my cult.

Could have a huge portion of the world believing, teach them the need for luxury gay space communism then when we're all living in utopia be like 'oh btw it was just a time travel prank lol'

15

Are we talking $10 M pre or post tax?

Post tax, $10M 100%. Not having to work and retiring immediately would be amazing.

I do like the recursive option of the red pill. Do a few loops and find the optimal path.

14

Pro gamee move: Start with red pill, take blue pill when you get back to the point in time where the choice is offered

13

I bet there’s a distinct age group for each one. Older, established, family, doing ok? Take the 10 mil. Don’t want to give up your family and all that. Might be pretty hard for people to give up. 10 mil would be an easy, instant retirement. You can enjoy your remaining years.

Sure, there are going to be some pretty unhappy outliers for whatever reasons, unable to reach a stable relationship, multiple failed relationships, poor financial situation, etc. that would hit the reset button.

Younger folks? Maybe yeah…hit that reboot. Start off with a lot of great knowledge, big nest egg to get a huge leg up on everything, you’ll retire at 40. Many more millions or even a billion with all the knowledge you have. Life would have a good shot at being great.

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7u5k3nreply
lemmy.world

0.00099 was the lowest price at the start... $500 then wouldnhave gotten you 505,050.50 coins at $50k /per

Would be $25,252,525,252.526

That's all you'd need to do.. never mind the knowledge of apple Google Amazon etc stock.

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greenskyereply
lemm.ee

Actually managing to sell that many coins would be pretty difficult. I remember exchanges crashing on the day it peaked as everyone was trying to sell. It'd still be way to make a lot of money though.

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7u5k3nreply
lemmy.world

Yeah that's very true.. Heck like you said that's a lot of money... You could.have started selling 100s at a time for much lower years prior.. it would have been easier, 100 a day of Bitcoin being sold would raise flags and you'd still make absolute stupid money.

Ah well. If only lol

2

Selling thousands at a time as you get closer to the peak.

2

It must be time travel or it's a bad deal - become 6, also orphan or effective orphan, also undocumented, become a missing person in your old self

If that was the deal, the millions side would have conditions like it's stolen money and the mob know who has it

And where's the fun in any of that?

1

Blue pill. I'd miss my wife and kids, and even if I were transported back in time, I doubt I'd do all the required steps to get to them again.

13

Red. Maybe I can stop my mom from being terrible. Also Bitcoin. Also holo first edition Charizard! Also I wanna be in the Fallador massacre on RuneScape! Also I'll get Internet famous!

12

Taking the red pill operates under the assumption that you’ll actually survive to this point in your life again. Maybe you were one second away from dying in a car accident at several points, and taking that red pill will lead to a series of events that causes your death.

12

I'm a useless idiot now and there's not much someone like me can do with that power. Gimmie the 10 mil and fuck off.

12

Easily red if restart means go back to the year when I was six. If be 6 years old now, fuck no.

11

Since it's one or the other, we can assume the objective value of the red pill is $10mil. So, you take the blue pill and use that $10mil to make another $10mil and then you buy the red pill and save it until you're about to die in a boss battle.

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lemmy.ml

I thought red at first, and if it were only slightly different parameters I'd still choose it, but 6? That's too far back to be trapped in a child's body and environment. At least going back to a more plausible age for a grown up's mindset like teenage years would be a bit easier to deal with and to lay low, it'd be strange how much more mature and less reckless and slightly boring of a teenager you had suddenly become, but at least it wouldn't be like international news. At 6, life is going to drastically changed by your seemingly impossible linguistic skills alone, child development experts would want to study you, you'd now be a prodigy, not necessarily a bad thing but unless that specifically was the path you'd always wanted but never achieved, you'd now be pretty well set down that road and all that comes with it. The relationship with your parents would be so different and they'd be robbed of your childhood and suddenly have this adult they'd never met before to deal with after barely getting any time to get to know their own child. It'd be so frustrating too, no one would let you drive and you couldn't drink, or fuck. You'd hopefully be able to get yourself some more autonomy than your average 6 year old if you revealed all your cards right away because it'd become immediately clear that fisher price toys and curfews and first grade weren't appropriate for you, but even so your adulthood, already well underway by this point would be drastically curtailed for something going on a decade. Maybe you'd decide to play like in a movie and adopt secrecy so your parents and peers don't know how smart you are, but that'd frankly be way worse and so exhausting and lonely and alienating.

If this was, maybe start again at 14, or better yet 16, I'd take that red pill no problem. It's most of the benefits of the blank slate try again with benefit of hindsight premise, but skipping over the parts that would be simply intolerable for an adult. At 16 you're a 'young adult' getting to relive some of the things you miss about being a child but with many of the benefits of being an adult and biologically you're pretty much over the worst of it, if you really hate the social restrictions imposed upon you by being not technically an 'adult' you're only 2 years away from fixing that, not over a decade, and when you get there you'll be in way better control of the trajectory of adulthood. Most of the really decisive things about adulthood that trace back to childhood happen around this time as well so it's where you'd get the most bang for your buck. You can take a very meandering path up until that point and still change direction but this is where decisions start to become more binding and long lasting so it's really the point where most people, if you asked them, would probably begin making tweaks if they could. I reckon the details about one's current life that most people want changed wouldn't have any meaningful correlation to things they did when they were 6, it'd be things like their career, or relationships they've had or wish they'd had, it'd be academic ability or a better body not ravaged by years bad lifestyle choices pretty much all of that is something you could very impactfully change at 16 without the need to learn to read all over again.

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I feel like at 6 you're not going to be tripped up by teenage relationships like you would landing in a hormone flooded/different brain state in your most important social years

It sounds like a plan for having no friends from school

1

Very comprehensible considerations! I'd love to study another field, just expanding my expertise and having a good time with fewer responsibilities than I have today. But giving up my family? No way! Blue pill it is.

1

Seriously how are people not seeing this?

Ever saw a child or teenager trying to act like an adult? Well now try that the other way around. Since you are a smart adult, you might get it done for a day. But for 12 years? You will slip and it will be noticed.

To add insult to injury, after you become grown up, that whole prodigy thing will fall apart, because you weren't actually all that much smarter than everyone else. You were just X years ahead for a child and that bonus melted with the years. So then you wouldnt be a prodigy, you'd be a failed prodigy and that is if the whole ordeal doesn't drive you insane in the meantime and you get hospitalized and drugged up for good.

Finally, even if you manage all of that to then buy bitcoins in the day. "Mommy mommy, please let us put 1.000 € in Internet coins that are 50 cents today. They will become worth 50.000 a piece i know it i promise, Mommy please!". How do you think your mother will react?

1

It's kind of curse to live knowing what's going to happen to our dear ones, but on the other way I could spend some extra time who is not with me now.

Earning $10mil will not be my motive if I am going to live this life again..

10

Blue pill, redoing school and all for years before getting any further in your life would be way too boring

10

I was 6 in 1990. I can make stock moves that are worth more than $10 million by the time I get to today pretty easily. Maybe fix a couple things that could've gone differently while I'm there. I'm not scared of randomness, I've thrived in it once already.

10

I'm liking the "going back to when I was 6 with all the knowledge I have now" option, but in reality 6 year old me would probably be too immature to know I need to remember it and by the time I needed to use that information in any sane way it would have been long forgotten.

I mean some people are saying get bitcoin early days, but 6 year old me was at least 10 years off Bitcoin existing.

It would also really suck knowing how easy it was to obtain information in the future only to be stuck in the past and barely have access to the internet at all.

9

Blue pill all day. I'd never give up my daughter and we could spend the rest of our lives vacationing.

9

Red, easily.

Yeah, some childhood stuff would suck but you could probably skip a good few grades. As you already (hopefully) know how to socialize by now, a lot of the childhood friend stuff seems pretty optional.

Dating would be really tricky through the early teenage years as I don't know how I'd feel about girls my own physical age at that point.

Because I'm relatively older and would have insane future knowledge, I could absolutely rock in stocks and have enough money to actually effect change. (Eg, singelhandedly fund a massive Democrat turnout machine in the rustbelt for 2016.)

The hard part would be somehow connecting with my current group of friends whom I love to death and wouldn't want to lose. They are the only thing that makes the blue pill tempting.

9

Let's go relive that childhood trauma! It sure would be interesting trying to raise my parents into functional adults at that age. I wonder if they'd give me an exorcism?

Nah, I don't have to wonder.

9

If you take the red pill, relive your life up to this point, and then take the red pill again, that’s kinda like a groundhog-day-ish immortality lifehack

Wouldn’t be great, but it’s an option

9

Here's my take, if went back to when I was 6, I probably wouldn't have the same friends I have now, like genuinely amazing friends. I'd rather not live though middle school and highschool again.

So I'll take the 10 million dollar blue pill.

8

Red makes more potential money (buy Apple, buy BTC) but that means it would be almost impossible to meet all my friends and I need to make new ones. Ugh I hate talking with people

8

Red, and then just get bitcoins early on and invest in tesla, by the time i'm back at 2024 I would have way more then 10M

7

I'd have to wait 10 years to buy Apple at $0.07 per share, but I think I could collect enough money to make that into more than $10 million.

7

Blue pill, it said you revert to a certain age, but not a certain time, meaning any information you've kept could be useless in an unfamiliar environment.

Also, it never states that time and reality will play out the same exact way, making said knowledge even more useless.

7

It also does not say about a location in space. So it might be Venus.

6

These "would you rather" memes are mind poison when both sides are impossible fantasies

6

With six it would give me the opportunity to move to my dad and spare me 6 more years of torture and violence. I'd take that even over 100 billion.

6

I'd like to go back with my memories, but might run into some sort of time cop situation. It's a tough call.

6

Blue pill. I'm young enough (37) that I'd lose far more than I'd gain if I chose Red. The knowledge I currently possess can change the world with 10 million.

6

Back when I was 6, in 1983, my uncle who worked in the oil industry told me about global warming.

I could totally have been a real radical environmentalist, but I was 6.

A second time around that talk would have an impact, and with some foresight for the next 40 years. I think no one would be surprised if I devoted everything to fixing global warming - they might be surprised at my success in the stock market.

6

Red pill. My dumbass thinks I could "fix" the people that fucked up my childhood with the knowledge I have now

6

I plan on convincing my mom to leave my dad. Sadly, 6 isn't young enough to prevent him from ruining her life, though. But at least she'll get out earlier, and also I can hopefully prevent her from having a surgery that completely changed her life for the worse.

4

I think, if you went back in time and started, for example, trying to get rich playing the stock market, you would be surprised by how much things change with your interference. Like, Bitcoin still goes up, but peaks at a different price. The same team wins the super bowl but by a different score. The longer things go on the weirder it would get.

6

Red, that would give me 30+ years of life. I would also try to get older healthier.

5

I guess you have to take time. It's invaluable. Plus you have great investment opportunities.

5

With the red pill I would have knowledge of my neuro oddness stuff which would have been SUPER FUCKING HELPFUL. I could have avoided all the self inflicted misery of middle and high school. I only can guess at what I would be doing as an adult if I were a self aware and confident kid.

Don't get me wrong, I love my life despite the path that I took to get here but I feel bad for little me.

5

Everyone is choosing red because they think they would be rich, but would they?

Imagine having the knowledge, that you knowingly stepped back in time, and all of your memories are now not real. They won't happen again unless you actually act exactly as you had before. No one believes anything you say because you are 6. You're forced to go through school again at 6.

Let's say you use your genius to progress quickly through school. Those sorts of kids become famous prodigies. You would end up on the talk show circuit with Ellen.

You would also know way more about your parents than you should at that age, and cause familial issues that would land you on Dr. Phil.

Imagine how torturous it would be to relive every moment, not being able to convince anyone of anything due to your age, unless you give up the fact that you were somehow sent back in time and know the future. Would you be able to convince your family without going insane? Would any government agency take qcute interest in your foresight? Imagine having to keep a level head while also going through puberty a second time.

How much will your presence affect the timeline? Maybe your first big move to get rich causes all subsequent moves to not exist. Maybe your parents hate you. Maybe it's chaos theory. Maybe you end up taking a path away from opulence and become an addict due to the constant anxiety, regret and boredom. Maybe you become a nihilistic mess that drives you to a worse life than you had before.

I'd take the definite of $10M. I know what I would do with it right now. I know it would be good.

Edit: a downvote without a reply telling me how I'm wrong is really an upvote.

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kbin.social

One thing to consider, assuming the red one is mental time travel (which is the only way it'd really be at all useful), you're essentially murdering everyone who exists from your subjective present to the jump point to replace with at best very similar clones and possibly no one or completely different people. Then you have to also assume the timeline isn't fixed and you can actually change things, and thus contend with butterfly effect causing divergence making your knowledge less useful. Sure, little changes probably won't impact things on a global scale for a while, but once you start doing big things like investing or preventing terrorist attacks or something that could cause major divergence. Ethically any kind of useful time travel should be limited to "World is already wiped out" scale scenarios where the alternative is worse.

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Also just hope that major events are not converging points in multiple timelines, otherwise you will be aware of all the terrible things that will happen but will practically be unable to stop them

Tuturun’t

3

Blue. I wouldn't change much about my life rn, but an extra 10mil would be awesome.

5

Red pill if it means I go back in time to when I was 6yrs old. Blue pill if not.

Edit: having to live through puberty again would be painful, but there's a fair amount of stuff I could, and likely would, do a lot differently.

5

6 year old me was unhappy enough without a plethora of knowledge and absolutely nothing to do with that.

I'll have the money please, I got some ideas to make 6 year olds less unhappy.

For the statistics: 40s, successful, no family.

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sh.itjust.works

blue pill, my existing knowledge won't help me cause I'm not in a position to actually change things. 10 million dollars though... I could invest that and call it a day

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lemmy.world

You could do way more than just get Bitcoin. You could do shorts/puts on all types of market spikes/crashes and just normal investing in Apple, Google, Tesla, Amazon, etc etc. You could literally become a multi-multi billionaire.

That is, if going back to 6 years old also means that you'll at least be 18 way before or by the time the mid-90s/early 2000s rolled around.

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Pikareply
sh.itjust.works

It doesn't say you go back I time, just become younger, but if that's how it works I could do that route, and have an early start on everything.

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Well it says "restart your life at 6 years of age" so it's healthy implying you're gonna go back in time

1

Hold on I have to look up all the winning games so I can become a billionaire just by gambling.

After that red pill all the way

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I am taking both. Thank you. Nobody said that it is exclusive choice.

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monyet.cc

Blue, easy. A 6 years old me can't do much even with my current knowledge, and i have to live through a childhood with my current world view and a slightly abusive father. Even if my goal is to redo everything it will take years for me to even have people taking me seriously, or have the "requirement" to set things up, i'll be stuck in a child body with no one listening, that's a nightmare.

10 millions though, i can set aside 50k to be used in the near future, pay off my mortgages, and the rest invest in a low risk profile and live off the rest of my life from dividends, and perhaps set up businesses in that actually reward blue collar worker.

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Workers co-op is a good model for worker rewarding structures

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lemmy.world

Ten million USD in 2024 is more than enough for me and my family to live out comfortable lives, to be honest. I'd just take that, live off the interest. It will present its own problems, of course, but I'm sure I can figure those out.

Going back in time with any specific goal or intent (like making lots more money than ten million dollars by 2024) is almost certainly going to end up being its own kind of hell in this situation and especially so when there's no guarantee that I'll actually be successful in that pursuit. No guarantee that I'd arrive at the new 2024 with more than ten million dollars, no guarantee I'd be able to "fix" anything without causing worse problems for myself and others, no guarantee that I'd get here alive again, sounds like quite a bit of a risk.

Plus, once I go back to age 6 and start making different decisions, a different future will necessarily emerge. Think about it this way, in order to not change the future (until you're at a point where you can reasonably execute a plan to reach your goals), you'd have to make exactly the same decisions you did when you were 6. Pretty much nobody has that kind of memory/recall, so it would literally come down to sheer luck. And the further along in time things progress, as you make more and more different decisions than you did originally, the more uncertainty it would introduce to the new future. Eventually, you may even find that you basically have no more ability to recall/predict the future than you would have otherwise.

So if you're in it for the money, just take the guaranteed money.

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krashmoreply
lemmy.world

Sure all that's theoretically possible, but realistically no one reading this post is influencing global events on any significant scale. Especially if you're just doing normal kid stuff. A random kid ordering spaghetti instead of chicken nuggets is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The same goes for just about any choice you'd likely be presented with.

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lemmy.world

realistically no one reading this post is influencing global events on any significant scale.

I'm not really sure where influencing global events comes into play with my prior comment, but I agree with you. However, when I posted my comment, I really mostly only saw people discussing relative and personal changes they'd make, so I'm also sort of thinking that global events are mostly irrelevant.

Especially if you’re just doing normal kid stuff. A random kid ordering spaghetti instead of chicken nuggets is meaningless in the grand scheme of things. The same goes for just about any choice you’d likely be presented with.

If you're focused on the ramifications of any one specific choice, then I feel like you're missing the forest for the tree (to coopt a popular idiom).

Every choice you make and everything you do differently will change things in some way, even if only to an imperceptible degree. From the moment you arrive back at your 6 year old self, you will constantly be making different decisions and doing things differently, whether you want to or not. The cumulative effects of these minute changes over time will make things increasingly more unpredictable and the new timeline and old timeline will necessarily diverge.

Then consider that some things in life are literally a cumulation of everything that you've done and everything that happened to you up to that point. Even small changes will have an impact. For instance, think of someone with biological children who goes back in time. The children they end up the second time around will be completely different people because of how random the process is that leads to two specific gametes being involved in the fertilization process. Literally eating spaghetti as a 6 year old could affect the outcome there, let alone the millions/billions/trillions of different actions that person would make over the decade(s) leading up to their child/childrens' conception. Perhaps having completely different kids is still inconsequential, but that's literally just one example, so I wouldn't get too hung up on the specifics.

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I don't think many of us are significant enough to change anything, at least until we time travel with intent to make enough money to fix some of the problems of now

1

Six is a bit early. If I could go back to between age 18 and December 2015

I could make money and have a way better career trajectory and love life.

Otherwise back spring/summer 2007.

6 is pointless. Knowledge and wisdom in a body and brain not equipped for it? Hardcore depression.

So yeah 10 mill.

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lemmy.world

Assuming that the red pill lets me revert to a 6YO (thus preserving my knowledge), and not time traveling back to when I was 6, I might be tempted to do a lot of unethical stuff to make a ton of money, provide for my family, convert the remaining assets to BTC, memorize the wallet details, then take the red pill. As a 6YO, the government can't hold me responsible for my adult conduct.

If it's a time travel situation, there's no contest. Red pill after studying the history of inventions. Start out by inventing the Pet Rock (near zero initial investment), reinvest in the fidget spinner, Pokemon, D&D, and writing the scripts to all the blockbuster movies. Provide technical details to the right industries for a royalty. Invest heavily in the creation of the Internet, then start Facebook, Google, and Amazon, bypass the PC and jump straight to smartphones. I'd be the patent king of the world.

With the trillions of dollars, I'd heavily influence politics. I'd fully fund the campaigns of moderates, institute free Internet-based accredited college, set up work training programs to support industries I intentionally locate in depressed areas, and make most of my business non-profit. And maybe, just maybe, avoid the cesspool we have today.

Edited for spelling

3

Yes, you could memorize an almanac ala "Back to the Future". But sporting event outcomes are often dictated by random events that may or may not happen. Your best bet is to build on your own efforts based on generalized trends.

5

You'll want to be pretty old to get in before some of those inventions.

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programming.dev

6 years of age would put me in 1978.

There is a lot I could do from that point onward, that would make $10M look like spare change. Like investing in Apple, or working with Tim Berners-Lee to more effectively launch an Internet that could better resist corporatization and enshittification.

3

Have you any ideas how enshittification can be prevented without preventing Slashdot and Reddit? Like you can't make a non commercial rule without making a more barren internet. Maybe the best you could do is get a Lemmy-like thing up and open source before Reddit could emerge

0

Do I go back in time to when I was 6, or do I remain in the current timeline, but 6 years old?

I’d imagine with all my memories and knowledge and basically being an adult, I’d probably have…desires…that vastly exceed my age. So that’d be pretty awkward.

In the current timeline would be interesting. I’d have to get a remote job that doesn’t need me on video, but assuming my paperwork still says my original birth year, I could probably keep on renewing my license for several years and at least have a valid adult ID. Even if I can’t drive or buy my own weed/booze, I could still maintain employment at least until I have an adult body. I’m assuming the sorcerer also gave me an identity that matched my new body, so I could probably coast through college at some point

But the weirdest thing would be being able to be both my kids peer and their parent.

3

I'd fuck up everything trying to keep the good parts and make more of myself at the same time. Give me money, I can relax then.

3

por qué no los dos? Punch him in the mouth and do whatever you want.:-P

Or just stare deeply into his eyes until he blinks, then turn around and leave the room. You're F-ing Neo, you don't need to play these kids games - if there's something you want, you just materialize it, easy.

Ofc... if this were a more irl scenario, I don't think I'd be taking pills from some random dude offering me to either "get rich quick" or turn me into a 6-yr-old, pudding or no. Maybe this is how he gets rich, by selling my organs or some such.:-P

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Could you imagine the psychological damage of having your adult mind shoved back into your 6 year old self? You'd be unable to relate to or even tolerate any of your peers, so say goodbye to any childhood friendships. You'd be unstimulated by the mountain of busy work in school and frustrated by all the topics you'd have to relearn. I personally would go through all of the procrastination troubles again. There are plenty of traumatic events that you would not be able to prevent or even affect. Nevermind that you are still carrying that trauma with you, you're just trying to not re-live it. Develop any chronic illnesses? Maybe you can get treated quicker but you still have to watch your health decline. It'll be a decade before you have any kind of autonomy to do any stocks or Bitcoin type stuff, unless you want to become some prophetic wünderkind. As far as I'm aware, mt gox was one of the only reliable places to get Bitcoin, until it wasn't. I don't know the day that it fell apart off the top of my head.

I never understand why anyone would choose the "do it all over again" scenarios.

2

I couldn't imagine the stress of knowing what I know now and being sent back to when I was six years old. I'd be trapped with my parents.

I'd take the money. My wife is amazing, and we are very happy together, but a lot of things had to fall just right for us to end up together.

2

Red pill. I have so many new ideas on how to ruin my life!

2

I ate both. Nothing really happened to me, but the matrix has been glitching though…

2

$10 million easy. Sure maybe you could get more if you were going back in time and insider trading on everything. But $10m is already enough money to live a comfortable life, especially if you just invest it in something safe. And that way you don't need to go through school and puberty again.

2

Red pill.

I had a few pretty rough years in there... I wasn't suffering or anything like that, I was just.... Going in the wrong direction. Took me a while to get back on track.

2

Is the cash tax free? If so, jump on that shit.

If it isn't, maybe take the money, but probably just walk away

2

If I take the red pill, would I have to accept misogyny as a way of life like they say on YouTube?

1

Red pill.

I'd apply myself in high school, force myself to be sociable as a child, graduate with my bachelor's degree 4-6 years earlier with a better GPA, and get work experience and savings well before the COVID-19 pandemic. (I would try to stop it, but if someone told me that they had exact knowledge of the future, I wouldn't believe them, and frankly I would be worried if people believed me without further evidence.)

I don't need or want $10 million.

1

Are the pills binary? Because I wouldn't want to rewind to far before either shacking up with, or maybe meeting, my girl. And all the fun things I would wish upon every iteration of myself that I'm doing now are things I'd started with in adulthood.
I'd only really be interested in taking about a third of a red pill, since that'd probably take me back to after I started most of these fun things.

If I'd be required to take whole pills, I'd take the blue one.

1

Red for sure! I damaged a few body parts that will never really heal and I could avoid that. And with memory 10mil will really be pocket change.

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lemmy.world

Red pill only worth it if restarted at 4. 6 is already too late.

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devfuuureply
lemmy.world

You know the usual memories of doing weird shit in pre school, being traumatized, also losing people and stuff like that. The usual memories that totally regular people have from that age and stay with your for the rest of your life

2

I saw a tall man in a leather jacket in a supermarket and ran up and hugged him because all tall men in leather jackets are my dad. 5 year old me forgot that he was passed out at home from some drug/alcohol concoction so how could he be in the shop?

Traumatised me for life.

2

Blue pill: I would die of boredom if I had to go back to school for more than a couple of days.

1

Red pill says restart at 6, not go back in time to when you where 6. I assume you will be 6 in the current time and have no future knowledge to convert into cash.

1

Also knowing about

  • 9/11 (investing in detector manifacturers, fucking shampoo in small bottles)
  • covid (investing in masks, vaccines, tests and test centers)
  • all the wars: weapon industry in Germany
  • Apple, Google, Amazon, ...

You could just buy stock and get rich without doing anything. If you made such a company, damn.

I mean investing in that post 9/11 stuff would make you rich, then you lend money to those Covid people and tadaa, Capitalism

Also maybe you could change something in the world, worth more than money.

1

Easily red pill. Every issue in my life was caused by my immaturity & incompetence basically so I could easily fix my life from there lol

Also i remember how to setup a BTC mining rig lmao, so that'll make things easier 😁

1

I gotta say, the top answer being the 10 million surprised the hell out of me. Especially from someone who's middle aged like myself. I had a pretty bad childhood myself, but the chance to get over 30 years of my life back and the wisdom to make better choices? I'd take that over ten billion dollars, and my life as an adult didn't turn out too bad. No amount of money can buy back your youth. Let alone the possibility of living long enough to see Elder Scrolls VI come out.

1

I was about 6 and a half when 9/11 happened so i would probably be telling everyone about that and end up getting arrested by the bush administration. Ill take the money

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