As we all know, after the horse was replaced by the widespread adoption of motorized vehicles, it was free to roam the greenest plains with whichever herd they wanted, with the motorized vehicles serving them for a change, and all the feeding and stable infrastructure remaining in place to serve their needs.

People say they plan revolutions to eat the rich, but because they only ever inherently meant the rhetoric to serve themselves, they will only end up carrying out revolutions to eat themselves.

When Saudi Arabia PIF and Jared Kushner bought EA, I expected something like this to eventually happen. They would want to prop up consumable yearly microtransactioned garbage over games with more moral dilemmas than their respective regimes are willing to tolerate..

It's an informed assumption based on historical precedent and the combination of plausible deniability with level of ease to implement that only statistics can really disprove as anything but speculation. There's also less eyes this time around because independent observers like OSCE have been prevented from participating.

These issues are nothing new, but are so old some of the articles that have discussed them in the past are no longer even accessible:

https://verifiedvoting.org/vote-flipping-and-touch-screen-calibration/

Lemmy: Ah, but voting means supporting the means of oppression by the Bourgeoisie thus showing your support of the status quo of lage stage capitalism, and thus by voting to not drive off the cliff you are really enabling the oppression of the Proletariat.

I'm sure you will tell us which modern country with a democracy isn't operating some form of capitalism. Functional people deal with the cards they are dealt to choose the best possible outcome, not imagine the best possible one and make believe.

That isn't really what is at risk, that's just a MAGA poll worker deliberately sabotaging the touch screen calibration. It might be an attempt at election theft, but what Trump is seeking to do is much more covert and you won't even notice it. They will try to see if and where they can flip the tallies and mess with the paper trail if there is any, and that's only on one of the levels he will be trying to steal the midterms.

First of all,

The comm has rules, they may be completely idiotic

Yes, so people would complain. Do not suffer fools. They also cripple any real discussion about "Late Stage Capitalism".

But this would be assuming your leap of logic was correct, which it isn't. The rule is:

3 No capitalist apologia, anti-socialism, anti-communism, or liberalism, liberalism is in direct conflict with the left. Support for capitalism or for the parties or ideologies that uphold it are not welcome or tolerated.

You don't vote because you support everything a party does, specially in majority wins all election systems. I'll quote myself again:

Functional people deal with the cards they are dealt to choose the best possible outcome, not imagine the best possible one and make believe.

Musk is just saying he will come after the lobbyists and large donors of his political critics.

Musk has perfected the art of bedazzling people with precision controlled compressed gaslighting.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/shaheenajanjuhajivrajeurope/2026/10/19/big-names-will-recover-from-frances-riots-family-shops-may-not/

https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2026/10/19/theres-nothing-left-french-businesses-count-the-cost-of-a-weekend-of-unrest/

https://www.euronews.com/2026/10/20/frances-riot-damage-doubles-who-will-pay-for-thousands-of-wrecked-shops

Ironically enough, the big multinational shopping centers will be the ones most likely to recover. Half the businesses lacked loss of activity coverage, and there were plenty of them that had to wait half a year or more for any payout. Thinking there were no bankruptcies is ignorance beyond belief.

Just because you don't see or care about owners having to pass down their businesses and just treat them like faceless stores doesn't mean they aren't forced to roll over. It's like claiming who cares about riot police being violent with protestors when they can just go to the hospital.

You know how the economy is, and you are choosing to victim blame the riot victims if they are "stupid" enough not to be able to get back on their feet, no matter if they have literally nothing to do with what the protests are supposedly against. Just don't be surprised when your rationale ends up with those shops eventually ending up in the hands of the large multinationals that can survive it and the society becomes even more dystopian.

Now? He's made it clear where he was heading since last year.

I judge the moderation action as Lemmy typical shillness. Incidentally, remember, propaganda usually tries to play both sides, promoting disengagement and engagement where it suits them.

is a Russian psyop

Your words, not his. Plenty of troll factories and gullible groups around the world, but the money pours down from where it pours down.

Both sides are not the same, one has been way worse for the environment than the other, the majority of this thread is rife with ignorance, plenty of it wilful. This thread might as well be called a theater.

• https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_first_Trump_administration
• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_second_Trump_administration

You are both-siding this and appealing to perfection as a solution, both common appeals used in manipulation, just like the majority of this theater is doing.

Pretty much, sadly it describes the majority of Lemmy as a whole given its foundation.

What a garbage spew of accusations. This thread is about climate change, and it's clearly you want to derail with a lot of baggage, which ironically enough, one side is still considerably worse than the other for each and every issue you try to shotgun with. I doubt you are American, and I doubt the why of each needs to be explained in anything other than an theathered echo-chamber.

You are both-siding this and appealing to perfection as a solution, both common appeals used in manipulation, just like the majority of this theater is doing.

Again, and again, and again, and again, and again ...

When you have slave labor and authoritarian control, building aesthetic wonders is easy.

Also, horrible example, coke is not water, yet you both-sides it because "it is a coke product". Plenty of differences, a lot of them directly affecting people's health. Or perhaps as apt as you obliviousness of how bad of a gaslight it is.

Just say what you mean, "it is a coke product" is a metaphor for "it is influenced by American lobbyists" so you imply people should both-sides it and apply no nuance.

The last rebuttal with hard facts and links just made you spew a word salad of gaslighting while ignoring anything you were offered. I don't have any hope for you, I'm just annotating for other readers caught up in the theater.

That's not how insurance works. It covers only a small part of the losses, and only for the shops that can afford the rising rates for a decent one.

Small amount of looting? That has absolutely destroyed the livelihood of some of the small shop owners while also negatively affecting the local economies for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile, mansions, multinational offices, and banks, y'know, the ones belonging to the supposed oligarchs pushing the ever-diminishing standards of living have remained untouched.

Face it, the protests have been hijacked by criminal opportunists with the barest facade of an excuse, and far from it being just "USians" condemning it, now every far-right social network in every part of the world pushed into the feeds by their respective Musks is taking advantage of the mayhem to associate it to their opposition and to top it off with a heavy dose of racism. Seeing Paris burned down by people who are students in facade only (and it's easy to tell the rioters from the students actually protesting) has absolutely fed the growth of the far right across multiple countries while doing little to economically help anyone but the looters who help themselves.