WAIT. Spez was a mod on fucking r/jailbait???? WHAT????

That's pretty awesome of him to actually admit he was in the wrong and apologize instead of doubling down.

First of all, as a minor you can pretty much get a tattoo anywhere in the US as long as you have parental consent. So, legally, tattoos are not considered worse than "other things", no. The people up in arms over gender affirming care for youths should also threaten and harass tattoo parlors that allow this horrible, permanent body mutilation to happen to children. Laws should be passed around the country with as much vigor and urgency as with laws against trans people, but they're not. For some reason. I can't possibly imagine why.

If your argument is that it's hypocritical for a parent to refuse to let their child get a tattoo, but they're okay with them getting gender affirming care, then you've missed the mark on that one too. Unlike tattoos, that have no value beyond the aesthetic, gender affirming care actually improve the quality of life for the person, reducing depression and the risk of suicide. It's considered healthcare. That's the argument you need to be fighting, not these strawmen ones. But I guess that's not as easy. If tattoos were as important to a child's well-being as gender affirming care is, then this comic would be making a perfectly valid point, of course. Come back when that's the case.

I actually kind of agree with you when you say that young impressionable people should be protected from making life-altering decisions about their bodies in case they end up changing their minds. But the reality is that de-transition rates sits around 1%, and the most cited reasons for de-transitioning seems to be pressure from parents, harassment and discrimination. It seems like when it comes to identifying as trans, people actually seem to be pretty sure of themselves. If the de-transitioning rate all of sudden started SKYROCKETING then we should absolutely be re-thinking things. But as of now, that just isn't the case.

Edit: the de-transition rate is magnitudes lower than things like knee surgery and heart surgery. Surgeries people generally feel very positively about in terms of helping people. Why can a child get a heart surgery - something that isn't remotely controversial - to save their life, but not a child getting gender affirmative care to keep them suffering and from killing themselves?

Glad that we are in agreement and can talk about this in a civil manner! I would just like to clear up a few things. A lot of people seem to think that when a child transitions they are immediately taken to a hospital where they're pumped full of drugs and then snip snip.

Stage one: the transition starts as a social one by changing their name, for instance. There's nothing permanent about changing your name.

Stage two: the next stage is puberty blockers. The criteria for a minor to get puberty blockers prescribed to them are:

-They have to show a long-lasting and intense pattern of gender nonconformity or gender dysphoria
-Have gender dysphoria that began or worsened at the start of puberty
-Any psychological, medical or social problems that could interfere with treatment needs to be addressed.
-Have entered the early stage of puberty
-Be provided informed consent

Puberty blockers temporarily stop puberty from setting in. By taking puberty blockers it keeps the person from undergoing changes that might lead to them undertaking surgeries later in life. And once you stop taking puberty blockers, the puberty kicks in. Nothing permanent about this stage either.

Stage three: Next next is hormone treatment (or HRT). Hormone treatments for transwomen, for example, suppress things like testosterone production and decrease muscle mass/strength. Almost all effects of HRT are reversible, except breast development in transwomen. HRT can cause infertility, but not always, which is why a lot of transwomen first put their sperm in spermbanks, in case they ever want to have children. HRT is only legal for minors if they get parental consent, meet several criteria after having been diagnosed with gender dysphoria for at least 6 months.

Stage four: Surgery. Mastectomies for transmen and penectomies for transwomen. Not legal without parental consent. Even when a minor has parental support for their transition, transition-related surgeries are not typically performed prior to the age of 18. While there are some reports of transgender teens between the ages of 16 and 18 receiving transition-related surgical care, these cases are exceedingly rare and based on the specific medical needs of the teen. Most trans people, counting adults, don't ever go through gender affirming surgeries, in fact. Only about 30%, and then the satisfaction rate sits at around 99.7% currently.

You mentioned that there are zero outcome studies, but gender affirming surgeries have been a thing for over sixty years! There have been plenty of studies. It's just the last few years that people have been starting to realize trans people exist, it seems. They've actually been around in different cultures around the world for thousands of years.

Sorry for the wall of text, and thanks for the chat. I hope we both can agree that since treatments seem to work and regret rates are low, we can with our current scientific understanding of the matter, along with decades worth of study, that there's no point in being against them. I don't think you're a bad person for being critical and asking questions. I just think you're misinformed. Have a nice day!

r/196 - Everyone seems to have split off into 4-5 different groups, which kinda sucks. r/TwoXChromosomes, r/Lies, r/HuskyTantrums, r/UkraineConflict, r/HyruleEngineering, r/bonehurtingjuice, r/catbongos,

Wait, have I missed something. What's going on? What's the controversy?

Edit: nevermind, I figured it out

I do, but the only thing I ever use it for is to keep up with stuff happening in the city I live in, like various local events, board game meet-ups or raves. Once in a blue moon, a friend I met in another country posts pictures of her and her baby lol

For real. I wouldn't be surprised if it in minuscule writing on the post-it says: "Hitler didn't do anything wrong"

They both look really good lol, I love this idea

Killing a bunch of them in a pool and making a beautiful, beautiful cemetery!

It's pretty! Getting cliffs of Dover vibes.

I only looked at one of the videos, but I was shocked at how much Enchanted Portals isn't even trying to hide how much it's copying Cuphead lol

I don't know what the worse war crime here is. Bagging the soda, or actually drinking Dr. Pepper. Do people actually enjoy that stuff?

Älskar det! Tillsammans marcherar vi utför stupet i solidaritet! Eh, hmm. Wait a minute.

sweats profusely

I love all of your stuff! The hanging pot with the worm is adorable as hell!! Aaaah!! If I understood it right, you accept photos of peoples cats and then make the necklaces to look like them? I'm thinking about getting a necklace for my friend this summer sometime when my economy is a little better. I think she'd like it; she's bonkers about her cat lol

That's fucking hilarious lol

I've been hearing strange noises coming from the other side of the wall in our apartment. It sounds like people talking and laughing, like a group of friends enjoying dinner together. But there's something uncanny about it the way their voices sound. It's similar to how a recording sounds when you play it backwards. Warped. Unintelligible. And it makes no sense, because that wall is what separates our apartment from the outside. There can't possibly be a room there. My boyfriend doesn't believe me at all. One day I knocked and shouted "hello?". Eerie silence. I haven't heard anything since.

Between the two, I would have to say spitting gum. Why? I just don't know. I just feel very strongly about this. Unreasonably strong. I think people who spit their gum out on the street should have their gums and teeth pulled out through their nostrils and surgically inserted into their livers. They need to be tried and executed for war crimes. Their houses needs to be cleansed by holy fire. Their family members, friends and acquaintances all needs to be individually, consecutively and ritually lowered into a cage of starving, blood-thirsty capybaras infected with gonorrhea and syphilis. Fight me.