Spyke
feddit.de

To anyone who does anything other than twist and tuck:

get a life

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lemmy.ca

I use the clip if I can find it....

.... I mean, was RIGHT HERE a second ago...

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thenextguyreply
lemmy.world

I use the clip until there's enough slack to do the twist and tuck.

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

They're not as good since switching to cardboard anyway

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legiosreply
aussie.zone

There's a brand (I think it's a small bakery here) that uses an awesome dual-wire one that I always keep because it is more a 'clamp/clasp' clip than a 'tie/twist wire' clip

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canreply
sh.itjust.works

I'm not sure I can picture what you mean but that sounds nice.

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Not quite. I'm pretty sure I have at least one spare floating around. Will take a pic when I get the chance!

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ciapatrireply
sh.itjust.works

My hoarding of the plastic tabs for the past decade is finally coming in handy.

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My ability to lose them immediately after grabbing first slice has not.

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lemm.ee

I twist and roll the excess bag over the bread. Kinda like how you do socks

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I don't see what's wrong with it at all, solid foolproof method, I'd airlock my spaceship like that

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lemm.ee

Breadboxes are bullshit and you know it

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literature.cafe

You put the bread in the box, while using one of the other methods.

The box is there to look pretty.

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db2reply
sopuli.xyz

The only thing a breadbox has done for me is give me molded bread the next day. Every time.

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db2reply
sopuli.xyz

The last one was new and I bleached it out before using it, still happened. The bread was also new.

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Do people still use these? I haven't seen one since my great aunt's house in the early '90s, and I'm certain it was never used for bread. Still remember the smell of that kitchen. Picked up the early, mineral tones of her weird, dank basement. God damn, I played a lot of Megaman 2 in that basement.

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Depends. Do you have adhd so you forget to take your meds if they're in your messy cupboard but also have a cat that might pee on it if left in an open basket on the kitchen table while you're not home?

Because in my experience, a breadbox is great for that 😂

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katy ✨reply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

My gram used to put the bread and crisps in the oven when the oven wasn't being used :)

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

We used to do that in my old tiny apartment until one of us forgot and turned the oven on.

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kbin.social

My brother liked to tear open the bag in the middle, then leave it as is in the open.

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It's just chaotic evil.

Leaving the bag open should be chaotic neutral. It's a sign of somebody shifting focus with neither good nor bad intentions.

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See, this is more like chaotic evil. Most of this chart is just normal behavior.

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eslemmy.es

I'm hoping your brother was 3-5. Anything after that should have been slapped out of him.

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Blackmistreply
feddit.uk

Why are you booing me, I'm right!

Big bread just wants you to throw away bread and buy more.

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Neatoreply
kbin.social

My bread lasts for 1-2 weeks on the counter. Modern science is rad.

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I mean freshly baked bread that you put in a bag last week a week or so I know dough conditioners do extend the life but when I throw my bread out it's usually not because it's stale because it's moldy which conditioners don't really help

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I don't usually eat that much bread, so a bag of bread may last me 4 weeks or so. Freezing it is the best option if you toast it anyways. The result is the exact same, except that freezing the bread will make it last essentially forever.

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It's bread. Bread is freezable. Same with cakes. You have definitely eaten defrosted bread and not even known it. You can freeze it 100 times and you won't be able to tell the difference.

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rockSlayerreply
lemmy.world

Once upon a time when toasters didn't need high tech computers, it was possible to get a perfectly toasted piece of bread from frozen. There was a bimetallic strip that sensed the temperature of the bread, so it would always be consistent. This made freezing bread much more practical

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My toaster has a snowflake button that just toasts it for a little bit longer.

I'm not sure why technology hasn't improved toasters at all, and indeed made them go backwards. I guess the 80s and the age of microchips couldn't solve everything...

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All the beead in the supermarkets comes from the frozen section. They take a big patch every night for the next day to defrost before adding it to the shelves.

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This is how I keep an eight pack of burger buns fresh. Also freshly cooked freezes flawlessly.

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TORFdot0reply
lemmy.world

I usually buy bread from Sam’s Club/Cosco and it comes in 2 packs so that’s usually what I do with the extra loaf. I don’t refreeze a loaf or just grab a frozen slice and microwave it or something though. I have standards

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You can just throw a frozen slice in the toaster and you'll get good at timing whether you want a thawed or toasted slice before you know it.

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Seriously, why anything else, it is the best seal and it is the fastest way. As long as you're not going to travel with your bread, you don't need an attach.

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I switch between chaotic neutral and neutral evil based on how much bread remains

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I've started making my own bread and keeping it in a bread box. This alignment is called "lawful insufferable"

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Mine is just a foodsafe plastic bin which gets cleaned out every week. My loaves scarcely last long enough to go off anyway 🤭

See? Insufferable.

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Leviathanreply
lemmy.world

I haven't found anything that isn't akin to old wives tales backing this claim up. Got any sources?

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sh.itjust.works

"retaining a small amount of humidity whilst also allowing a small amount of ventilation. Some bread boxes don’t allow any ventilation, but these can cause too much moisture retention and allow faster mold growth"

https://www.foodtoimpress.com/bread/how-to-prevent-mold-on-bread/

Bread should be stored in a cool dry place to insure it lasts longest. Breadboxes are the opposite of ideal.

Bread boxes are antiquated tech in a time where bread was meant to be eaten faster and as a method of rodent protection. The same with pie cupboards/safes.

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From your own link:

They create an ideal environment for bread since they’re cool, dark, and relatively dry. They act similarly to a plastic bag and trap some moisture, but they also release excess moisture through airflow, so you get the best of both worlds.

It sounds like it's just bad if you don't know how to use one.

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lemmy.world

I worked at a restaurant that was big on breakfast for many years. When our manager needed to open a new bag, she would tear a hole it half way down the bag and start pulling bread from the middle. The only option we really had was to put it into another bag.

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yeah, we all know air can‘t twist, chaotic neutral is sufficient

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Matthewreply
programming.dev

I don't understand why the twist and tuck is seen as a bad thing. It's a tight seal that is effortless to both do and undo.

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Cuz it can fall apart if moved or slid. Needs to be redone when picked up.

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I do that if I lose the original bread tag.

If I still have the tag, it's twist and tag.

Though with modern cardboard tags, it's a bit more difficult and the tags wear out more quickly.

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lemmy.ca

Lawful neutral. I'm surprised more people don't just use the clip that came with it. It's kept the bread fresh the whole time up to you acquiring it, so why not keep using it?

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Because bread is stocked daily, so the clip hasn't done much, and many of the methods are a tighter seal or just faster

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Because those little fuckers are fun to flick across the room, then get lost under the couch.

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sh.itjust.works

Canada Bread has switched to using paper clips. They deform and break after so many reapplies. The twist and tuck is the next best option.

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I haven't had a problem with them so far, but I can see how they are more flimsy compared to the plastic ones

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eezeebeereply
lemmy.ca

How is bread packaged and sealed where you are?

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Little bit of sellotape that has the best before date on it, you used to be able to reuse that a little but they have gone real cheap with it.

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Where i live the plastic is actually kind of stuck together and clip just makes sure it stays that way. Once you open it the first time the clip won't have the same effect anymore

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MBMreply
lemmings.world

Doesn't it dry out though? For me it's always freezer or nothing

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Chaotic neutral, then in the fridge. Quick and easy, stays fresh.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

You guys don't have a bakery every few streets ? I buy a few baguettes daily, several times a day.

Edit : a few baguettes for several people, am not some kind of 400lb duck monster.

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lemmy.world

I think you’re responding to a large duck, or perhaps several regular ducks packed into a long coat.

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Macreply
mander.xyz

Ducks don't eat bread and you shouldn't feed it to them. Feed them seeds.

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You know how in asia they eat everything with rice ? Here, we eat everything with bread. I never thought of it before but does seems a bit weird. Most our food is home made and we somewhat eat a lot of soup. You can make more than dozens of different recipe by throwing stuff and seasoning into boiling water. You can then eat it with some bread or pour it over other stuff.

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Baguette bread is terrible though. Way too hard. Anyway most Americans live further than a mile from somewhere with bread, that's far too much work.

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gnutrinoreply
programming.dev

That sounds like significantly more work than any of the other options. In what way is it a "hack"?

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That's the way hacks work. They look good on Tik Tok but then when you start to think about it you realize why we're not already doing it that way.

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I mean, do it once and you have a free bag clip for a few different breads.

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It's a free bag clip that works. I used it several times and its working well

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kbin.social

That sounds like the nost tiktok livehack omg i've been doing it wrong all my life, i was todays years old when i learned this lifehack, ever

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I scrolled through so many comments to see if anyone was just going to let that one go un-asked! I started reading the chart from the bottom and got to chaotic good last and went from leaning back in my chair to fully forward when I read it. Was like car tire screech "What the fuck is the bottle hack?!?!?" lol

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I think chaotic good should be you tie it with a loop. It's firmly tied closed, but you just have to pull at the end and it comes open

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It's not just good enough, it's probably more air tight than the other methods because the twist is longer. Also, most plastic is air permeable.

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I tighten bread bag knots to punish people for their hubris.

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lemmy.ml

imagine tying a knot on the end of the bag, as far from the bread as possible, and just cutting it off and retying every time you want bread

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every time you want bread

And now I wonder why did I even stop at this thread at all.

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They do, you should always use one of the other methods to close up the bag, then put it in the bin

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Depends on the bread and the bin. My parents have a pottery one, it keeps proper bread perfectly fresh. Of course you do need to eat a bit at least every day/every other day, because the cut side will dry out eventually.

Maybe that's mostly the bread doing all the work though. I don't know how you can store toast for any practical amount of time without consuming more preservatives than bread, lol

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wiesonreply
lemmy.world

If you leave bread fully enclosed in plastic, all the moisture from the crumb moves into the crust and makes it soggy. But it doesn't dry out.

If you leave it just open, it dries out.

That's why (real) bread is best stored in a paper bag or in an unglazed ceramic bread bin. Those two materials allow for a slow exchange of air, therefore keeping the crust crunchy and the crumb soft.

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makes it (meaning the crust) soggy

Not really dripping with water, but it equalises the moisture between crumb and crust.

That's not a concern for wonderbread, since the crust was never crunchy to begin with.

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kootepereply
sopuli.xyz

Makes sense for beans? I only recall very small bags of beans here in Finland. Other than that its only cans and boxes. Peas you can buy in pretty big bags though..

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derfl007reply
lemmy.wtf

It's evil, but not chaotic. It's closed after all, so I'd say this fits lawful evil perfectly.

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Chaotic evil is throwing the bag away and leaving the loaf out.

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lemmy.world

I'm a cross between lawful and chaotic neutral. I use the clip, but also twist and tuck.

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Why use many thing when weight of bread will do

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The twist keeps the bread thieves away. The equivalent to wearing a blanket as protection against monsters.

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lemmy.ml

Bread box? I haven't seen one of those in decades. Maybe they have changed but they are just to make the kitchen look nice right? They don't actually preserve anything right? If you live in a humid environment that bread is going bad immediately unless you put it in an air tight container. Mold loves water.

I use bag and twist tie or clip all of the way. If I am going to use it fast or freeze it if I am not going to finish it within a few days.

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Ours is in use to keep the damn cat from eating through the bag.

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Catsrulesreply
lemmy.ml

Does it seal the bread or anything? From a pure preservation standpoint does the bread last longer outside of a bread box vs inside?

Does blocking the light prevent bread from going off?

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shastaxcreply
lemm.ee

Is "going off" a British phrase? It's funny, like the bread is going to explode.

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I was always pro-breadbox until I moved to an area with lots of roaches. Now, it's sealed boxes all the way

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monyet.cc

Not to gripe at a funni meemee or anything but it's interesting how 2 out of 3 the "good" options revolve around straight up consumerism.

"Think about how organized you would be if you had a special box to store your sliced bread!?! (Nevermind the fact that this totally unnecessary as the bread already comes in packaging that is both more airtight and likely more sterile)"

The environment weeps.

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Also bag clips break. A rubber band or a knot (one you sure you can untie).

I usually use "just tucking", though.

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People put bread just loose in a breadbox? That's disturbing. Keep the bread in the bag, but put it in the box so it doesn't get squished.

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LCP
lemmy.world

Chaotic neutral here. The twist tie that comes with the bag immediately goes in my twist tie collection.

::: spoiler twist tie collection


:::

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I am lawful neutral but my mom's lawful evil and she throws the fucking thing away so I can't even do it :((

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lemmy.world

I’d have swapped true and lawful neutrals. True neutral is using what came with it, surely? Even though a band is better.

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Lawful>chaotic isn't about better>worse. If anything, using the gear that came with the product is the definition of lawful in this context. Lawful is more about following the expectations of society. That's not the full meaning, but close enough for this post. If anything, I would swap true neutral and chaotic neutral.

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Sami_Usoreply
lemmy.world

I honestly don't see the problem. I'm not putting that little bread clip back on the bag once it's off.

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braveonereply
lemmy.ml

Who folds without twisting??

(Ok I do sometimes, but I know it’s wrong.)

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discuss.tchncs.de

I just figured out it can be a cultural thing. In my country, we mostly eat dark bread. It lasts up to a week before it dries out. To achieve that, the air seal is tight enough with just tucking. If the above image is supposed to be of a bag of white bread/toast, then just tucking actually is not enough, the toast will dry out in a day. With toast, I'm actually lawful neutral

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I’m not sure what’s in the bag has anything to do with if you twist before you tuck.

Twisting emulates how the bread seals with a clip. It’s more a habit of some sort, like double tapping the trigger on a drill to see if it has power.

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lemm.ee

Somebody explain this to the trees that drop millions of nuts in the surrounding forest every few years skyrocketing not only rodent populations but also their parasites; ticks, chiggers, fleas. Predators are here, but they can't seem to catch up to the mouse output.

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It's called a mast year. Every 3 to 5 years the trees in an area produce an enormous amount of fruit, then on the next year it's super low. Scientists think the trees produce more mast (botanical term for fruit of forest trees and shrubs, like acorns etc) than the animals could possibly eat, which guarantees that some seeds can grow into saplings. We don't know exactly what triggers it though.

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Tikiporchreply
lemmy.world

Mice in your home is more a problem of class than alignment.

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Tikiporchreply
lemmy.world

We're talking about D&D, I wasn't making a deeper commentary on real world socioeconomic status.

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Lived on a rural farm most of my life and never had issues with mice in bread boxes.

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Normally I'm chaotic neutral, but sometimes I forget and end up being chaotic evil lol

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What does it mean for me that I would twist and tuck into the bread box....

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Usually chaotic neutral for me, I've never seen a. Rubber and on bread before tho

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lemm.ee

neutral good most of the time

sometimes lawful neutral

if I'm lazy, neutral evil

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i do chaotic neutral cause it's essentially neutral evil but with at least the illusion of a more secure seal

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Wait, I do a similar one to the twist and tuck but what I do is that I twist it and then partially re-cover the remaining breads, would that put me with the twist and tuck people or an I something else?

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Usually neutral good, but if I can't find the clip, I'm neutral evil.

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Neutral Evil for me. Almost the laziest option, but willing to put in the barest amount of effort.

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Depends on your climate. 30C and 80% humidity and your bread goes mouldy in three days outside of the fridge.

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slrpnk.net

Slipknot all day everyday. Fast to tie and untie nothing to lose like a clip or a rubber band. Plus it's just a small bit of fun

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I used to be a chaotic evil, but then I learned how to actually tie things. Not a joke I'm autistic and couldn't get the hang of tying until well into my adulthood when it became required for my job that I get tying down.

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I am lawful evil, future me has been cursing past me ever since

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I just leave bread on the table and throw out the bag.

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What is the bottle hack? I do the old twist and tuck, but I store it in the oven, which is just a big bread box.

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I try to be lawful neutral but just end up doing chaotic evil. Anyway who wants stale sourdough as hard as a rock?

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sh.itjust.works

I tie a knot, but it’s more like a shoelace and can be pulled open with a simple pull. Where does that put me?
I feel so lost and alone :(

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Thelsimreply
sh.itjust.works

Basically it's what Aa! said, I just never knew the word for it.

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Looks like the best between being practical and secure. Too bad I suck at making knots.

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Looks like the best between being practical and secure. Too bad I suck at making knots.

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Every time one of those charts comes up I'm somehow always marked chaotic neutral.

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lawful neutral until i lose it then chaotic neutral. both times i put it in a bread box bagged unless the bread box has a piece of junk mail i left on top of it.

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I know this kind of post is not supposed to be taken seriously, but they're so haphazard and forced that I don't find them funny. I'm getting sick of these billions of poorly-thought-out "moral + lawful alignment" charts for things that have little to no morality or lawfulness attached, trying to tell us what kind of person we are if we do what, and being wildly off-the-mark. For this one and most others, most of the entries are "lawful good/neutral", because they are valid and effective ways to protect your fucking bread, done by someone who sees it important to do so. If you really want to start categorizing the way tons of different people do shit, find a more appropriate format.

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neutral/chaotic if there's fresh bread, and room temp butter i'm a goblin

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I'm lawful neutral until I lose the clip, then I become eeeeeeeeeviiiiiiiillll

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I'm definitely somewhere between neutral and chaotic evil...

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