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If the cheese and meat is good, then this is a really nice dinner. Add a simple salad to that and its perfect.

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Sergioreply
piefed.social

Fun fact: consuming coca leaves (from which cocaine is made) is legal in some Latin American countries. It helps with nausea.

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wander1236reply
sh.itjust.works

Is the natural concentration pretty high? This made me think of poppy seeds

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Augustinerreply
lemmy.world

Not really, you gotta chew a lot or drink a lot of tea to feel anything and then it’s more like drinking a few cups of coffee

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Haven’t tried poppies yet in large enough quantities to feel anything, but I’d assume yes. Also similar to other mild natural drugs, like Khat or Kava or Nutmeg

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It should be legal everywhere. It's only dangerous in refined form. Nobody would snort pure caffeine cause you would literally just die. But in its natural concentration it's not that harmful and can even have beneficial effects in moderation. Coca leaves are the same way honestly.

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0x0reply
lemmy.zip

She expected princess treatment and decide it was more fun to mock a genuine attempt.
Not a keeper.

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Or she's just razzing him a bit. Crazy what a bunch of soft whiny crybabies men are these days.

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lemmy.hogru.ch

There’s a lot of unnecessary animal consumption here stemming (probably) from abusive practices.

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feddit.uk

I hate when I see a video going "here is my go-to lazy meal for when I'm totally beat" and the first thing they do is start chopping an onion.

A lazy meal is a bag of beige crap from the freezer, dumped into an oven tray and left for 20 minutes on gas mark 8. If it's more effort than that, you can stick it.

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it's like when someone uploads a video of "cheap diy project" and half the materials is a couple hundred dollars of stuff they already own from previous projects. or "cheap optiplex gaming pc" and the gpu is a rtx 3090 nvidia gave them for free for being a tech youtuber.

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Oven? Why be such an overachiever? If it requires more than 1 button press on the microwave I'm just gonna eat it cold.

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I buy frozen chopped onions and pepper and onion mix because I fucking hate chopping. Admittedly, the peppers aren't as good vs fresh, but I will deal with subpar peppers to not have to chop anything. I will say, one annoying thing is fewer and fewer grocery stores stock frozen chopped onions, likely due to lower margins because they are usually dirt cheap, like $1/ bag.

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motruckreply
lemmy.zip

If you get used to cooking chopping an onion isn't work.

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lemmy.zip

First time I ate over at my husband's, he gave me an entire rib eye and nothing else. This is when I learned about boy dinner.

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arrow74reply
lemmy.zip

I once saw a guy eat an entire pound of ground beef. Just some pan fried ground beef with salt and pepper. Nothing else, just pure boy kibble

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lemmy.world

I watched my body building friend eat rice, chicken, and hot sauce. Every day for years. Joy was not part of the equation.

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I've read that "chicken and broccoli" is a body-builder euphemism for gear (steroids and growth hormones etc.) but apparently that's not true for everybody.

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Stormyreply
thelemmy.club

When I went away to college, my mom would mail me cooked ground beef.

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lemmy.today

Did she have it refrigerated & sent with ice packs? If not, eew, major health code violation & I assume you didn't die of worms since you're here to tell a story about how thoughtful your mom is.

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Stormyreply
thelemmy.club

Yes, ice packs and one giant zip lock of 4 pounds of meat. I don't really know why she did it, I had a job and money. I did eat it and it was nice though. Poured it into a bowl and microwaved it.

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Janxreply
piefed.social

Are you able to find out now...? I'm still baffled.

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Stormyreply
thelemmy.club

I can't just ask no, i dont want to unintentionally make her feel bad about herself.

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I don't know her, I'll ask and risk her unintentionally feeling bad about herself!

But seriously, that's your choice. I would just want to know in your shoes. Hell, you used it and appreciated it, start with that! "Hey mom, I heard that parents these days consider kids out of sight/out of mind and basically cut-off when they leave the house, even for college! I know you kept me fed when I wasn't living at home... Thanks for that!"

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Me SO and I Cook fairly often and maybe once every year or two we will go through a spurt where we primarily only eat one thing. We don't really discuss it, just naturally we get in a rutt where we both don't want to cook and gravitate to who ever comes up with the best boy/girl dinner and lock in on that. Instead of dinner it becomes whatever cute nick name we give it. Kind of like how people call chipotle slopbowls we had a spinich lunch meat salad we just called turkey bowl.

We ate only ham on bread with swiss for nearly a month, charcuterie for a few weeks, a lunch meat spinach salad with olive garden dressing for nearly a month. Then we get bored or it or we start feeling like we need actual nutrition.

Its weird because we normally enjoy cooking and making nice food that takes time and effort, then out of no where its like your brain breaks and you just want the least ingredients to be considered a meal.

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My sister-in-law cooks like that. She'll make one main course (and TBF it's delicious) but absolutely nothing else -- no side dishes, no salad, not even anything to drink.

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That's American boy dinner. This shit don't fly in Europe.

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I mean, if it was hand battered and fried and the mac wasn't kraft but actually put together, then it's a pretty nice meal. Add some vegetables.

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BigDictionreply
lemmy.world

I’d guess the breading was hand done. Bit uneven thickness. Mac sauce looks just about perfect.

Assumed this was Annie’s Mac and Cheese from the color and some random frozen chicken tenders from Costco at first, but the breading looks homemade.

Nice weeknight meal!

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

I do not get people enjoying Annie's.

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Annie's got trashed on a blind taste test by professional chefs on a YouTube channel I watch. Kraft actually rated higher,

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BigDictionreply
lemmy.world

I think it’s fine for boxed Mac. What don’t you like about it?

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lemmy.world

It's a play on a line from the song Smooth Criminal by Michael Jackson.

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Ohhhh gotcha thanks. Hearing the Alien Ant Farm cover in my head right now

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Drusasreply
fedia.io

I just don't like it. I don't think it tastes especially good.

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lemmy.world

My parents loved Cracker Barrel mac & cheese but one time I substituted Annie's because it was on sale and they literally spit it out. I personally couldn't perceive any difference between the two.

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sh.itjust.works

Some green beans and spinach would be nice. Otherwise, looks pretty good

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For repeatedly driving into your thigh, just to feel something for once.

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No talking until you finish your dinner. Or wake up from it...

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It's a hot meal, and the mac looks homemade, and not from a box. Girl needs to talk to her boyfriend, and stop bitching on the internet. The conversation should start like this, "Thank you for dinner, I appreciate the effort. Next time you cook, can you make some of these things in the future, they are some of my favorite meals?"

My wife works a 7 days on 7 days off hospital shift. On her workdays, I stay up late and have a hot dinner ready for her. After 3 years, I have had 0 complaints. We talk to each other about things we like and our preferences, so I try to cook things I know she will like anyway. I used to make things like felafel from scratch, tons of homemade veggie soups from scratch, like split pea, butternut squash bisque, garden veggie, until I learned she didn't like those things and just focused my efforts on things she likes.

In a healthy relationship, adults talk to each other about their wants and needs, instead of bitching on the internet.

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piefed.social

Mac & cheese have been ruined for me by that instinct that makes you disgusted by the last thing you ate before getting a stomach bug. Cmon body it's not a novel type of berry it won't be poisonous this time

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Same thing happened to me and celery. One fucking bite and as soon as it plopped into my stomach crippling pain and out of school for the week with flu.

MINUTES BEFORE the christmas cheesecske dinner, too.

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Had the same thing with coconut. Used to like it, until I paired it with the flu. Now I can't have anything that I can't have anything that tastes like it or I get queasy. That happened when I was a child and it has carried into being an adult.

Interestingly enough if you had a strong enough preference for something it kind of overrides that instinct. I did the same thing with lasagna and I still eat that shit up like Garfield.

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lemmy.world

I am of the persuasion that stomach bugs do not exist.

Food poisoning is more common than one would think, but also takes a bit longer than one would think.

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PhoenixDogreply
lemmy.world

I am of the persuasion that rabies doesn't exist.

I've never gotten it, so therefore it must be a myth.

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Gerudoreply
lemmy.zip

Yeah, tell that to my wife who got the stomach flu so bad, she collapsed in the parking lot of the ER.

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Stomach flu is viral and food poisoning is bacterial. 2 different things.

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Lojcsreply
piefed.social

I do remember hearing that that food poisoning is the fault of something you ate much earlier that week. But also, food seems to stay 1-4 days in my body after eating it. So if that were the case the puke impulse wouldn't clear out the thing that caused the illness, it would be in the intestines or out of the body already. If puking evolved it must be for a reason

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It's the little baddies that ride the food in and multiply that's bad. When they hit critical mass, the body expels them.

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Depends on the food iirc. I had bad sushi that had me puking within maybe six hours. God that was a nightmare, and I hate that I'm hesitant to try my favorite food again. At the same time I'm grateful that it didn't seem to get digested enough to go through both ends

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lemmy.world

That breaded fried... meat? chimken? something?- looks fantastic actually, that came out really good. This plate should be really tasty! I would personally at minimum add some mud/swamp native veggies like probably some yellow/white onion finely chopped slowly glazed? I get all my veggies from dinner and sadly, this plate will not supply me with my 200g minimum.

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marighostreply
piefed.social

Agreed. This plate looks great but it could use some roasted broccoli or sprouts, or sauteed green beans or something. Eat your greens!

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lemmy.world

I like spinach, I just hate how I buy a bag the size of a pillow and it cooks down to about a tablespoon.

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Same, first time I cooked with it I did a wtf face.

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programming.dev

I grew up with parents who loved to cook and grow their own vegetables - I was always cooking with them. When I moved into an engineering dormitory, I was shocked to learn that absolutely no ~20 y/o around me knew how to cook. Seeing a picture of this plate brought me back - everybody made crap like this.

Also, once I saw a dude trying to boil a whole cheese (his parents were mega-wealthy, and he had never cooked once in his life).

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Muffireply
programming.dev

I don't eat cheese myself, so I can't say specifically which one. I came into the common kitchen one day, and he was just boiling a big chunky slice (like from a cheese wheel). His reason was that he thought it would 'soften it up'.

He was a great engineer but an incredibly odd fellow. His entire room was also just hip-height stacks of old tech, laptops, books and boardgames, with only a shallow walking path between his bed, desk and bathroom.

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with only a shallow walking path between his bed, desk and bathroom.

The essentials.

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Honestly, thats kinda sound logic. Cheese melt but would mix with water and water would also provide very uniform heating. As an engineer, I would for sure try it out as a possible solution.

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boiling a big chunky slice (like from a cheese wheel)

I've never even imagined boiling cheese before. The closest I've come is throwing parmesan rinds into a tomato sauce, but you take the rinds out before eating it.

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Crashumbcreply
lemmy.world

Yeah I don't trust anyone that doesn't eat cheese (i'm guessing any dairy?). You should have that chECKED OUT.

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Muffireply
programming.dev

I am Danish and have a hatred for how the meat and dairy industry has ruined my country and its farmland. So more of a political choice, that was handed down to me by my hippie grandparents.

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Dozzi92reply
lemmy.world

Would you make exceptions for, say, meat/dairy from local farms? I'm with you about the industries, and I try to supplement with locally farmed stuff as often as possible, but I'm also weak of constitution.

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HerbGrowerreply
slrpnk.net

They are too expensive to have on a regular occasion.

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Agree, hence my weakness unfortunately. But I certainly try.

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Sure would! But the few times I did try, it fucked with my stomach. Meat is especially rough if your stomach bacteria is not used to it. I don't consider myself vegan, I just don't buy dairy products.

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Leatherreply
lemmy.world

"Boil a whole cheese"!!?? To what end? Like a craft single, a 1 lb block of sharp Tillamook cheddar, a 20 kg wheel of parm?

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Same here, I grew up around a farm so I'm not like a great chef, but I know how to put a meal together. One time I saw someone attempt to make onion soup by just boiling an onion in a pot.

I have a theory that they only see cooking in video games, where you throw the ingredients into a cauldron or whatever and the meal comes out so they think that's how it works lol.

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My parents were proto-hippies (went to college in the '50s) who listened to The Kingston Trio and baked their own bread and such. We almost never ate out or ate packaged food. One year I went to summer camp and for breakfast they made real stuff like eggs and pancakes and bacon but also had those little boxes of sugary cereals on the tables. I pigged out on the cereal while everybody else ate the real food, since their parents never ever made shit like that for them.

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sopuli.xyz

Should've been dino nuggs, but apart from that I don't see a problem here.

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No shortage of people climbing over each other for the classic "hahaha this is so right men are the worst" casual misandrist crap, either.

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lemmy.today

Shit, my wife demands this sometimes. This lady is nuts.

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Well, typically it means we're going to find out she's not pregnant the next day.

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Damn, if you don't want it, send it my way. Mac n cheese is my ultimate comfort food.

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And that's the fancy Mac and cheese with the cheese in the pouch, not even the powder one.

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I never complain about someone giving me prepared food. I spend so much of my life obtaining, storing, preparing, and cleaning up after making food that I see any meal given to me as a wonderful gift of time.

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lemmy.ca

if I had made this for my ex, our relationship probably would have lasted longer

not that that would have been a good thing, it was destined to fail for other reasons. but she'd have loved the fuck outta this and it's way better than the mac & cheese and tendies she made herself

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piefed.social

I don't think I'll ever understand the obsession with macaroni cheese. I've never had any that I'd describe as anything higher than tolerable. The only exception to this was a dollop of it, fried, on top of a burger.

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rekareply
lemmy.world

I make the most banging mac and cheese and it only takes like 15 mins.

Make a white sauce - butter, flour into a paste, add milk and mix til smooth and slightly thinner than the eventual intended sauce.

Add grated cheddar, dijon mustard and salt and pepper. Boil the macaroni til al dente. Mix that shit up and top with parmesan. It is incredible every damn time. The issue is that most mac and cheese is made of shelf stable food adjacent powders.

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shelf stable food adjacent powders.

Thank you for enriching my vocabulary. I'll be using that. And also the idea of mustard in the bechamel :)

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Sounds very similar to how I make it but English mustard and a slash of Worcestershire sauce. Sometimes fry bacon and use the bacon grease instead of butter too.

Also added fried onions before but not done that in a while.

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Flamekebabreply
piefed.social

The cheese and heavy starch doesn't do it for me. At best I find it okay, at worst it turns my stomach.

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Heavy starch is a lot of British comfort foods and a great hangover food.

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FoxAlivereply
lemmy.zip

Hard disagree. If its real Mac and cheese there's a thing as too much its really rich. Still really good but thats something you only have as a small side dish at bbqs, or thanks giving where your plate competing for space with 12 other side dishes. Bread crumbs on top drive me wild though.

If its store bought in a plastic tub kind of Mac and cheese then it always taste like frozen dinner quality, or something you would get at a buffet for the old people that still some how only costs 7.99, and is exclusively ran by prisoners on work release. I'm with you on that one. that's the stuff they deep fry at restaurants, and the only acceptable use for the stuff.

Box Mac though I could demolish two boxes if I was feeling like a piggy. Can't go wrong with Velveta cheese sauce kind, but powdered cheese will do. I try not to eat it often because it makes me feel like a child, but it lasts in the pantry and its nice to have easy cheap food around. Buy a flat of them and forget about it.

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PhoenixDogreply
lemmy.world

When you just dismiss an entire dish because "I've never had a good one".

Have you ever had homemade? Raw rice noodles with a homemade cheese sauce? With spices and garnish?

I've never had a good apple pie. I hate apples, especially baked apples. At least I know I don't like Apple Pie. But very much unlike you, I'm not going to trash Apple Pie or people who enjoy Apple Pie because I'm not an entitled piece of crap who thinks my choice of food is better than yours. And I'm certainly not going to go into a thread about Apple Pie and tell everyone in that thread who loves Apple Pie that their choice of food sucks.

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I have tried a wide variety. Enough to have a functional understanding of the spectrum that is mac and cheese.

I'm not interested in your attempts to lecture me about food. You don't know me and your sneering presumptions about me are of no value.

Yes, you can "um, actually" me in that I haven't tried every variation of mac and cheese under the sun, so I cannot have an objective opinion. However I've tried enough to know well the common features that must be present for it to be mac and cheese, rather than some other dish.

...and I didn't particularly enjoy it.

Which is allowed. My gods, where's the fucking block button?

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

100% agreed. The reason the box stuff is good is because the cheese is powdered. I think I've had good, homemade stuff once ever.

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lemmy.world

A lot of people don't properly spice it or choose a good cheese blend for it. Mix some complimentary cheeses, I like gruyere, gouda, and cheddar sharp enough to puncture the hull of an empire-class Fire Nation battle ship, leaving thousands to drown at sea, then include some mustard powder, spicy and smoked paprika, fresh ground pepper, and whatever other pungent spices your soul yearns for. Top it with panko fried in butter and too much garlic.

Or you just don't like the stuff. But yeah a lot of people make it basically flavorless

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hansoloreply
lemmy.today

I've made the "original" recipe from Thomas Jefferson's chef, and it was better than most I've had simply because it's a proper bechamel sauce base. Most people just throw cheese on buttered noodles with no spices or hopes or dreams or love in their hearts.

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Some people skip everything except literally the macaroni and cheese, and poorly cook the macaroni.

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I think that's the point. It's comfort food; if it's from a box, you can't screw it up without really trying to.

So if you see it on offer, you know it's going to be decent minimum.

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lemmy.zip

I could not agree more. This has got to be the most overrated and underwhelming dish ever. The first time I saw it in a restaurant menu, I looked at my wife like we were in the fucking twilight zone.

"Mac 'n Cheese" 🤮 That shit tastes like over-milked plastic, at best.

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The tinned ones I would agree but if you make it yourself its great. I grew up only ever having home made and then in my 20s got given a tin of it for the first time, it's terrible.

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1984reply
lemmy.today

Americans like the worst food. They also have completely white bread sandwiches with peanut butter and jelly. Literally just sugar and fat.

I haven't seen Americans eat a normal dish with some chicken, vegetables, potatoes, light sauce. You know, normal food. Not deep fried.

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What is wrong with peanut butter? Got some on my desk. Approx 50% fat, 26% protein, 5% sugar 5% other carbs, 9% fiber.

Its a high energy density but I usually only add a bit to other foods. Lately that is usually oats, sultanas, peanut butter and milk.

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lemmy.ca

That mac and cheese looks decent, if homemade. Usually the package stuff looks thinner than that at least.

I suspect the chicken is frozen, but it’s a nice breading. Though my family never mastered the art of frying things, so I cannot say.

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Usually the package stuff looks thinner

That's why I go for the shell variant instead. The cheese seems to stick better too.

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You wouldn't believe how proud I was of the spaghetti I made for my date when I was 18 yo.

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Like any food, it depends on if it was frozen/boxed or actually cooked. If that mac is homemade then kudos to the cook

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lemmy.world

It desperatey needs some boiled broccoli, but honestly, not bad.

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Appoxoreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

blanched or roasted.
Nobody needs boiled mushy vegetables. Nobody.

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lemmy.world

Vegetables cooked in boiling water have a slightly adjustable cooking time window depending on the level of firmness you prefer, but they are never supposed to be "mushy"

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Appoxoreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Boiled = (to me) cooked like a noodle.
Blanching should be what you are referring to.

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Blanching is not what I'm referring to. Blanching is a very short time in boiling water, usually not enough to cook something, followed by a plunge in cold water, so if you stop there your food will also be cold. It is a pre cooking step, done either done to preserve color/texture (if I boil small chopped up leek before making "fondue de poireaux"), or to neutralize bitterness/sourness (if I make lemon slices confit in syrup).

What I'm referring to is following the cooking charts your might find in a culinary school textbook about vegetables, because you can absolutely cook any vegetable to steaming hot perfection in just salted boiling water, even broccoli or Brussels sprouts.

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Steamed are OK, but broiled with light charring/caramelization is the sweet spot.

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Dozzi92reply
lemmy.world

I think the boiled part was a joke to add to the otherwise pedestrian meal. And no hate on macheesyfingers, it's just not some culinary extravagance.

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I don't like any crisp left in my vegetables. BRING ON THE MUSH! Either way it should be steamed with a little butter and Johnny's.

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sh.itjust.works

IDK, not saying this isn't a good meal, but I seems to me this kind of post just implies that most men can't cook for shit. Most of my male friends are good cook and can make much better meals than that. Guessing it's an amrrican thing.

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aksdbreply
lemmy.world

Isn’t professional cooking even male dominated? AFAICT most kitchen chefs are male. That always made this weird stereotype of “women belong in the kitchen” and “men can’t cook” super weird to me.

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lemmy.today

pretty much, but funny thing is people marrying a chef expecting gourmet meals, just get microwave slop.

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Can relate. There’s a saying “if you turn your hobby into a job, you no longer have a hobby.”

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Godricreply
lemmy.world

I think that's possibly the single most sexist stereotype: "Cooking is for women, unless you're really really good at it"

I broke the cycle. My mom is an awful cook, and I can turn any red meat into goodness.

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Most red meat can be turned good by simply existing. So long as you don't burn it, it's hard to fuck it up too bad otherwise.

Montreal steak seasoning, soy sauce, and 40 minutes at 350 will make any red meat amazing though.

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he put it on a plate instead of just eating the mac & cheese out of the pot, and the nuggs off the oven tray.

he's a KEEPER!!!!

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Idk what she's complaining about, he even added a garnish of pepper on the mac for her.

This dude is a regular goddamn Bobby flay.

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lemmy.world

And he didn't burn down his house???

Idk dude sounds like a keeper to me. Tried his best, no paper plates, cooked well, house still intact and I assume his digits aren't cooked as well. Nice!

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fonix232reply
fedia.io

Also, mac&cheese can be fancied up a LOT.

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lemmy.world

My fanciest before I actually took culinary classes was when I was a teenager. I had leftover baked salmon in the fridge. I flaked it while it was still cold, made some Kraft mac n cheese, and folded in the salmon just before serving, and a side of roasted broccoli (seasoned with salt and pepper). Still one of my most successful meals that I served when I was a teenager - zero complaints from the family.

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Oh I was thinking of fancying it up by:

  • using a variety of cheeses (grated, sauced or grilled on top)
  • fancier crispy bits - rosemary sourdough mini croutons, Jamon Iberico lard-ons, crispy cheddar bits (just microwave small mounds of cheddar until melted and crispy) etc.
  • make a proper bechamel for the cheese sauce (nutmeg, touch of MSG, pinch of dehydrated tomato powder, etc)

For cheese sauce, I recommend either using four-six complementary flavourful cheeses, or, if you fancy, split the bechamel and make multiple sauces you layer with the pasta

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pharreply
lemmy.world

This is a boy dinner not a girl dinner

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slrpnk.net

The only question I would have is if that a real cheese sauce or the shit you get from a tin.

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Quite commonly, boys are not taught how to cook by default, so it's either their interest and passion (and then they can get to great heights in it), or they leave parents' house with near-zero cooking knowledge.

Most girls, however, are still expected to drag most homely duties on themselves, including cooking, so they are forced to learn it. Those of them who don't really like it don't make it much further, and those who do may still face discrimination, because professional cooking is still male-dominated from the times nearly all jobs were male-dominated.

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Fields can be dominated by people who are not the best at it - just look at most CEO's.

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qgadrianreply
lemmy.world

I think so too, might be the perfect position of the elements, nothing is “out of range”

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lemmy.zip

For me it's the texture everything looks like it's made of coral.

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There's some weird steganography that openai uses that does this, and it's very noticeable in a lot of AI images where you just see this repeating pattern

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I wonder if this was Mac and Cheese, where he made half, and breaded and fried half for Mac and cheese bites

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sh.itjust.works

Vegetables.

Steamed, blanched, stir fried, raw, broiled, grilled... Depends on your preference, and depends on the vegetable, but that meal desperately needs some.

At least it's not an absurd quantity of macaroni and deep fried... nuggets? Based on the size of the noodles, it seems to be a small plate. But, that's an oily and greasy plate of stuff.

Even just 1 minute to chop up a bell pepper or some celery will give you a nice juicy crunch and some fiber to offset that grease and oil. And/or, with some advance planning, some nice cherry tomatoes. The acid and juice would offset the grease nicely.

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Don't forget the breading on the mechanically-separated chicken bites. And the pepper. All plant-based.

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Things you say to your oncologist to explain you can't have cancer because you live healthy.

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