Trump Ominously Says 'Project 2025' Author Has 'Big Surprises' In The Next Few Weeks
President Donald Trump issued a foreboding proclamation during a speech in Maryland on Tuesday, just hours after he predicted a “Midterm Surprise!” in a Truth Social post.
“Director of the Office of Management and Budget, Russ Vought, who’s fantastic, he’s on a job, we have some big surprises coming up in another few weeks. Right, Russ?” Trump said. “He’s gonna be one of the very important people in the history of our country, in my opinion. He’s got some great things happening.”
Trump did not expand on what these so-called “surprises” would be.
Outside his role in the Trump administration, Vought is the primary architect of Project 2025, the conservative Heritage Foundation’s blueprint for a second Trump term.
While not mentioned specifically by Trump, many critics online speculated that Trump was referring to some sort of plan to interfere in the midterm elections.
“Between this and his ‘midterm surprise,’ the time to prepare for him to try to steal an election is now,” Fox News host Jessica Tarlov wrote on X.
Other commenters suggested that Vought could use his official capacity to interfere with the elections.
"I know nothing about Project 2025"
-Trump, 2024
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I like how Trump can’t help but preemptively throw his sycophants under the bus just in case things go wrong and someone has to be held accountable
Or, he will follow through on Project 2025 and nullify the election.
This is what he will try to do, but we can't allow Schmuck & Jeffries to just accept it with stern rebuke. We have to SLAM every Representative ad Senator with intense pressure to fight back. Their phones should be ringing non-stop, their email inbox should be full, and they shouldn't be able to go ANYWHERE without citizens demanding action.
If they still won't defend our Democracy, if they just let MAGA walk away with it, then they become as much the enemy as MAGA. The only way they'll act is if they are afraid of us, so we'll need to be extremely aggressive, and it will get ugly.
Your solution to attempts to illegally coup the nation is phone calls to the side doing it to demand they support you instead?
Everyone knows that if your bpd violent ex is in the middle of setting your car and house on fire you resolve it by waiting patiently for cuffing season to begin again and then text them cordially to ask them to work with you so this behavior can cease and turn into something more productive.
This is the inherit problem with democracy, or at least the American implementation of it.
If the government "goes rogue" and starts ignoring the pleas and will of the people, it can no longer be fixed within the system itself.
If the only solution is to work outside the system, then what is the point of democracy in the first place?
The Constitution has been overridden by the majority party in Congress that has ABDICATED ITS POWERS and relegated them to the executive.
Stop and think about this for a second.
Trump and his coup NEED the stolen election to be legitimized by Congress, full stop, or it just doesn't work. The failure to legitimize is what stopped J6.
Addressing the minority Congressional leaders as well as doing all the other things we are already doing is exactly what needs to happen.
At no point did Barney say that was the only thing, everywhere and ever, that any concerned American should ever think about doing.
You brought that.
For myself, I have nothing but contempt for those who clearly have no idea how much all the individual efforts of all sizes by so many Americans to push back has slowed Trump's roll.
But you'd never concede that. You're here to shit on anyone who suggests anything other than a magical solution, as though the actual Americans among us have not heard this a billion times through the firehose of propaganda that has been aimed directly at us since 2015.
If you had any interest at all in preventing a coup, you'd have written a dramatically different comment. But us actual living Americans who genuinely want this fascism to stop have many things we can each do to put pressure against EVERY PART of this oncoming coup -- including the legislators who will be required to legitimize the outcome should all other efforts fail.
And your solution is to be a part of the problem, quietly undermining anyone who suggests anything useful and helpful even as you display your own ignorance of how an American coup MUST work to be successful in the end.
For the rest of us, ABSOLUTELY add contacting your federal representatives to your list of to-do items before the midterms, and make sure you are still registered to vote by contacting your local elections office directly, and beware of fake sites that are data hoovers.
Barney's right. They need to hear us. And they don't . . . yet.
well... talk is cheap but no one has been SLAMMING Trump since he took office.
It's not enough, wgat you suggested is a lityle temporary annoyance compared to what they plan...
They are criminals who verifiably attempted to steal every election Trumps been involved with. There's a reasonable chance they succeeded, and wouldn't have won any without the various direct and indirect election fraud tactics (that go by other terms but are just as criminal; some are "legal" e.g. gerrymandering).
There is literally zero chance they don't attempt to steal all future elections. That's what psychopathic criminals do.
I hope the Democrats find some time to get Vought at a hearing to ask some very pointed questions about his little document there.
Wild that a Fox News host is talking about him stealing the election.
Not if you know who she is, she is a jewel in that shit-mire
Say more please. I was confused as well. Will she get fired?
No, if you can stomach the rest of that crew you will be very content with her actions. She is basically paid to be the "other" view point, the left. She is constantly attacked by the other 4 on that panel, Greg Gutfeld? mostly, and she attacks back. She is fun to watch but I can't for long due to the others. Check out the show she is on, I'm sure you have seen her if the news people you watch use clips.
I wouldn't check out the show, unless you do it in a way that doesn't drive money into their pockets. It doesn't really matter how good she is if she's just a vehicle to peddle their bullshit.
I find the clips to be enough. She is on the other side to the rest, outnumbered 4:1 and still gets her points across, hopefully opening some rep voter eyes
Maybe, but still don't give them views.
She’s a plant to give the other three morons on that show a platform to spread propaganda.
What about the multiple allegations or the literal 'steal like hell' quote do you thing clued him in?
You are clueless.
Surprise everyone! Women can't vote anymore, nor can brown people.
And Democrats are terrorists now, so they get deported if they try to vote.
also, no one who can do math without a calculator, and people who read.
Lots of court law demonstrating why we shouldn't have literacy tests...but nobody never done said nothing about no illiteracy tests.
Only property owners—no renters.
A literal coup, seizing voting machines and denying results, arresting Democratic candidates who won their elections. We've already established that the law and the constitution means nothing to this administration so everything is on the table.
Good thing all those second amendment fanatics are politically literate, right?
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Don't forget banning international voting oversight. I have no confidence in your election results.
That's why he did it, because he will question the outcome and international observers won't be able to say they didn't see anything. Our elections are heavily decentralized so it's genuinely hard to mess with them at scale.
Can't states invite them themselves?
Why would they need OMB for that? To me it sounds much more like they're thing to fuck with the FCC, FEC, and/or the post office.
In other words:
Stay tuned for his next totally illegal, but totally allowed grift of what’s left on American democracy.
He raped kids. Lady Justice is not off-limits.
Americans will reward you for raping kids and kill you for defending them
Our legal system is broken. He should have gone to jail in the 90s over his rape cases. 13 times he'd been in court well before he was president over rape. Our justice system failed to hold him accountable. He shouldn't have his wealth either. All the shady real estate deals with with Russia and the blatant money laundering that was. Oh sure he bought properties for a few million and a Russian 'investor' buys them for 10s of millions a few years later. Not sus at all.
That's funny, the midterms are also in a few weeks. What a coincidence. I'm sure it's nothing about that right?
Oh fuck we're gonna lose, say some more shit. Fuck no one listened, say even more shit but say it's a surprise now.
Lmao you think they are going to lose
Here’s a quick summary of what I think he is gonna do.
Good write up, but you left out the false flag terrorist attack that will allow him to declare a state of emergency.
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hmmmmmm I wonder who they are going to frame?
Is this a south park episode
Or, the speaker of the house appoints a different House Clerk and he/she doesn't call the newly elected members to order due to " fraudulent elections"
You are correct I forgot that part!
Yeah. Wouldn't want a foot-gun.
And banned International elections oversight. Oh, ice handed voter rolls to thiel... Oh ya. I have Russian levels of trust in your elections.
even beforehand voting machines weren't audited and their software is very bad. and decades before that people just bought votes. it's a shit mountain built into a different, older, more respectable shit mountain
The important point: Republicans aren't leaving office regardless of what happens.
Well, not willingly perhaps.
It would make my fuckin year if they don't.
Yes.
Yes definitely, I think he will play a part in step 2.
he's the loser nobody wanted along but he's paying for everything so they let him come too.
Don't underestimate the power of cholesterol.
He's gonna live to be at least 102
I genuinely don't see him invading Iran. It's a guaranteed belly-flop. Much more likely he continues pretending the US already won.
Bibi will wave the tape, and then he will.
I don't think so. It's not as if longstanding, bipartisan US policy isn't antagonistic towards Iran for its own reasons. I do think Bibi helped coax Trump into actually bombing Iran by giving him a rosy assessment, but even Trump won't fall for that twice.
I hope you are right, ofcourse. But things are getting so unpredictable and illogical that I really don't know what to expect.
I hear ya. What actually worries me is if Europe decides to involve itself militarily. I think the chance is slim, but that's the only way I could see any attempted invasion of Iran. They are in a very tight spot with energy, and they seem to be 100% against negotiating with Russia, while also 100% unable (or unwilling) to influence Trump regarding Iran. Hard to imagine they could dedicate any military resources towards Iran though, considering what they already send to Ukraine, or want to deter Russia with. Still, as winter comes and fuel costs rise, something will have to give.
No, Iran invasion is pure fantasy. Europe can't change that equation, not enough troops to spare and they're not really built to fight outside of Europe in large numbers. Iran will need millions of soldiers committed. The US barely has 400,000 combat soldiers.
For instance how are they even going to get the border of Iran? They can't go in from Pakistan or Central Asia and the US Navy is a hollowed out enshitified joke, so doing a naval invasion is even more absurd.
So they'll have to invade and secure Iraq just to set the stage for an invasion of Iran. And that's assuming they could defeat a combined Iran-Iraqi force. But how are they going to build up an invasion force? 2003 Iraq Invasion force took a year to build and that was in peaceful conditions with full control of the gulf and had intact bases.
The most that they can hope for is trying to take and hold the Islands in the strait. Which will fail and fail hard because Iran has had months and months prepare for it where as the US hasn't committed a single soldier to combat and yet it's logistics are at the breaking point and it's defensive munitions are already spent! Trillion dollars a year well spent!
Militarily, the US is a barely a shadow of what it was just 20 years ago. It's been thoroughly Russified.
I agree with pretty much everything you say here, but the last sentence.
I think we are safe there, as they will need at least 20 years to decide on that.
He doesn't need Russ Vought for any of this.
For the #1, I think "Iran" will attack Los Angeles and San Diego.
Also Republicans will replace the clerk with a MAGA person and he will refuse call new winners in January.
Since this is Vough this is definitively one of things he planned.
"I don't know what Project 2025 is."
- Donald J. Trump
Vought is a little weasel. I hope he gets to see the inside of a prison.
I hope he sees the inside of a basket
Personally I'm hoping for the woodchopper feeder to get progressively closer to him as he gets ever shorter.
"Well, our Democratic governor took away our plastic grocery bags and last summer, suggested that people in big cities turn their AC down to avoid brown outs, so I'm OK with whatever Republicans can do to fix those things." - My low information voting family.
Time to take the kid gloves off and call these idiots out. Being this stupid should have a negative effect of some kind.
It does, just not directly oh them just yet
That is next-level entitlement. Man…. I’m sorry.
Oh, the project 2025 he had no idea about?
The P25 that the current VP wrote the forward to when it was published as a fucking book?
The same P25 he said the only agenda he has is Project 47?
Yes, that exact one that stated they were going to hack n slash Medicare/Medicaid (which they did), install a bunch of "loyalists" (which they did), eliminate the Dept of Education (which they've been slowly doing), eliminate unions and worker protections (which theyve been chipping away at)...
Remember when he claimed he had nothing to do with Project 2025? Yeah I know a mother fucker dumb enough to have believed that
My narcissistic ex, literally. Dumb as a fucking rock.
We all have that uncle.
This is FALSE because Donald Trump TOLD ME he DIDNT know what Project 2025 was!
-LITERALLY Republican Voters!
Dude, I knew "both sides are the same" types at my work who fucking bought that. My gasts were flabbered.
From this to secret "mythical end of war after the mid terms" magic, the only reason for secrecy is that they would be horribly unpopular plans that would negatively impact mid term election results if they were done/disclosed now.
Hopefully it turns out to be the release of some new Trump-branded schlock people can buy directly from whitehouse.gov and everyone will just be like "of course."
VOTE.
YES, the mid term elections are ongoing RIGHT NOW in the USA. If you're a US citizen and you haven't voted yet then do it, early voting is happening soon* check your state.
And even better - use an official ballot drop box instead of mailing it, as there's still the possibility of USPS fuckery.
He most likely will try, but it's Trump. His track record speaks for itself: he will fuck it up. Bigly.
Watch Americans do nothing, if y'all do nothing when Donald's nulifyed the election, nobody is going to respect what you say or do anymore, no matter what. You think euros are annoying now making fun of you, just wait until Donald trys nullifying states rights.
Most of us agree with you, We've had protests; we just haven't dialed it up to France.
outside of a general strike, nothing will change, no chance of that happening until he nulls the midterms, slim chance after that.
France is geographically smaller than the state of Texas.
yet it has twice as many people
Sure. I'm just trying to be a realistic reminder that the United States is massive compared to Europe. There are states larger than plenty of European countries, and as you say, with less population. Not sure how anyone expects anything to come together productively outside of exercising your right to vote. A general strike requires coordination that can be intercepted and manipulated at a national scale. People need to vote.
I don't have a lot of confidence that the vote will be counted and fair.
I also worry about his ominous project 2025 statement
We did noting when we found out he raped children. Complacency is support.
Yeah dude at least Europe finally cut down on buying arms from the US.
How is that important for this discussion? You’re just changing the subject
You have much to learn young padawan.
Well clearly not from you, you can’t even stick to the subject.
Euros should stfu and clean up their own house. The hypocrisy of telling us we don't do anything while they actively elect their own fascists is fucking astounding.
Same to you Canadians. You were two months away from electing a fascist moron until Trump started making threats but you act so smug about it now. Yeah turns out that when the fascism is aimed at you instead of Indian immigrants it isn't so great, is it?
More complaining and finger pointing. 🙄
Based on comments by vought, I'm guessing national abortion ban.
Always uses the same shit. Couple weeks, two weeks, few weeks.
Nothing ever comes of it.
It's dangerous to disregard this
Ooops more treason! Surprise!!
The time to prepare for him to steal the election has long since passed. And we all know with absolute certainty he will scream to the rooftops every single day that the midterms were stolen if democrats manage to take the House and/or Senate. What the democrats should be doing now is prebunking these claims. They should all be talking about how he will claim the election was stolen and then explain the psychology behind these statements. It lessens its impact.
So does this.
If they pull shenanigans, how far can a trebuchet launch Molotov cocktails towards certain buildings (in order to voice our displeasure)?
You don’t need fancy tools. Anarchists across the world have shown all you need is black clothing and a mask.
Interestingly it’s only anarchists that the FBI is now targeting as threats to the nation.
Tbf they also have a problem with anti-fascists.
Total bullshit. See NSPM-7: ANYTHING considered "antifa" is now the actual target, and "antifa" has never been tightly defined, by design.
It's FAR from being "only anarchists" and has never been that limited. Even this newer National Security Memorandum designating "antifa" as terrorism is over a year old.
Why are you deliberately spreading misinformation?
The only real way to know is to try it out!
I understand that a blank shotgun shell and a wooden dowel roughly the size of the bore with the molotov stuck to the end can be used as a reasonably effective mortar.
For educational purposes, of course.
Of course! Purely academic.
Trump says a lot of vile shit. Adding adverbs doesn't make it more newsworthy. Stop giving this buffoon media space.
Do you honestly think that will happen at this point? The only thing I ever want to hear about trump is that he's suffering, died or is in prison. And yet I expect a few thousand more stories about him.
if he does, the surprise may be on him
I’m fairly confident there won’t be any midterms this time around.
Trump doesn’t plan on leaving until he’s in a pine box.
This is just wrong. I’ve already voted in my state, my ballot has been received, and counted. I know my state will not bow to federal pressure on election interference.
It’s entirely possible the administration will work to quell and intimidate in person voting. They might try some post election fuckery like 2020, but the midterm vote will take place.
Spreading the claim that “there won’t be any midterms” will only serve to discourage those who would otherwise vote.
I think he might try and end up triggering a civil war instead when states ignore the order.
We still voted during the last Civil War.
Yeah? How do you see that playing out? Can you explain what civil war in that scenario would look like?
States that either ignore or block Donald attempts rig or cheat the voting system vs thos the unilateral back him and the federal gov. He seems to be indicating that he's going to interfere with the system.
Whole states are going to go to war with other states, eh? People are just blindly going to engage in violent conflict because their elected officials tell them too? Are they going to war using line infantry too?
I encourage you to really think through your original statement and the actual likelihood of that outcome. Unless your goal was to just make a bombastic doomer comment that really means nothing.
He has all four branches of our military in his pocket. Dude. Downplaying a threat like this is dangerous. People need to be prepared.
If that were true it still wouldn’t be a civil war, it would be a military coup.
That's what people voted for after J6.
Hopefully sooner rather than later.
The midterms are literally already happening.
Pine is too... Porous. He's so toxic, we need concrete walls
Nah, put the fucker on a stick to rot in the sun. We need to be sure it’s over. Preferably while still breathing.
Given gas prices, the Mussolini treatment might be the most culturally relevant.
I'm not a fan of giving him the Jesus treatment. He might pull a McConnell and come back after a few months
Lol I don't think I've seen a man so universally hated in my life time.
Naah. Launch him into the sun. We don’t need that cancer here.
Give him the spent neclear waste treatment, 50 gallon drum filled with concrete then entombed in more concrete and lead.
We'll get to vote. He just won't accept the results.
This is going to be a bribe to voters of some kind to try and add credibility to the $5000 of republicans won.
It’s the only thing that makes sense that would come out of the OMB.
He will probably cancel the midterms with an executive order. Doesn't seem like there is any limit to what he can do with executive orders. Why would a democratic government allow for such power in a single person? Didn't anybody think those powers would be abused? Might as well be a dictator 🙄. Seems so ridiculous.
Does anybody have the citation from the P2025 manuscript on the elections? Curious what the actual language is…
Project 2025's election stuff starts on page 861
Thanks! Yah that is the section I found as well.
After skimming through it real quick, all I see are recommended changes to the federal elections committee, but I most likely missed something…
Mark my words. There will be an attack on a city in California in the next 3 weeks. Iran will "claim responsibility". Elections will be cancelled and martial law will be set in place. Trump will remain president until he dies. His regime will remain in power permanently. The United States as we know it will end by the end of next year. There will be a gas shortage with no plan to help anyone since the rich already have what they need. There will be massive food shortages due to this. Millions will die in the next 2 years from disease, hunger, and war within our borders.
The rich will come out on top and we all lose. Enjoy your last few weeks or normalcy. It gets dark from here.
There's a big fail in your assumption
How?
The financially obese are never sated.
I feel the same way, and I appreciate that you said what you said.
This "it's all shit from here so you should just roll over and die" comment four weeks out from the midterms is not accidental, and surprise, surprise, it's a two day old account demanding that we all "mark its words" of doom and destruction, lol.
Hell no. Keep the faith, brother. I appreciate you, and every one of us like you.
Fuck the doomers and vote: if your vote weren't so important, they wouldn't be working this hard to discourage you from doing it.
I wish you and all of us every success.
Regardless of what I said being wrong or right, why are you being so rude? Your comment history speaks volumes.
Not a word of what they said is out of bounds bud. It’s all a very real threat we all face. If you like optimistic sugar-coated feelgood takes, maybe you should avoid discussing American politics.
Do you honestly not know what an opinion is?
Look, I’ll make this easier for you so you don’t have to get so upset at others for what they think:
You go ahead and create a community and list in the rules, how everyone should think and what they should say. And then you can require everyone to memorize a list of things you find irritating and off-limits, and then test them on it before they’re ever allowed to post- we will all join it- and promptly never post.
But there, you can have everything exactly as you want it and no one will ever disagree or say things that upset you.
Mkay? Sound fun? Super!
I wouldn't put it past this administration to perform a false-flag if things look dire enough.
We're talking about an actual insurrectionist here. A treacherous person in every definition of the word.
More likely, they will take some minor protest or something, and use their propaganda network to wag-the-dog and make half the country think that the liberal cities are now effectively Mad Max (again).
There doesn't need to be another 9/11, they just need to make enough people believe there was.
Trump said that he would sacrifice San Diego or LA. He can’t keep his mouth shut and has likely spoken with conspirators about it. He won’t say that he won’t call martial law. Do you remember Jan. 6th? Do you remember when he was “shot at” during the election. He’s done this shit before.
Do you think I’m the first person in history who thinks something like this could happen?
You can contest someone’s point without being rude. Or can you?
You haven’t debated any of what I said either, just that I’m wrong
The evidence is in Trump’s words and actions. He’s talking about missiles hitting San Diego and you aren’t in the lease bit worried? Do you think it’s just some plausible deniability? The evidence is there
Two day old doomer account. Blocked.
Noooooooo!
I'll mark your words with a big giant red X because it's some doomerist bullshit.
Why?
Nah, if the ship goes down, everyone goes with it. The rich will not escape.
Consider your words marked.
I can't endure the suspense
Didn't the idiot and chief deny any knowledge or connection to the project!?
Anyone want to bet the federal gov insourcing gets completed, and then they turn around and screw civil servants by using voter info to purge the fed gov again?
OMB does not handle elections, but they can totally use election info to remove dems from gov. They'll do it faster than lawsuits can be processed.
That's my theory anyways.
Piss or get off the pot old man.