Jim Jordan predicts third Trump impeachment if Democrats take control of House
Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) on Sunday predicted that Democrats will impeach Trump for a third time between his two presidencies if they take control of the House after the November midterm elections.
Jordan suggested in an interview on “Cats Roundtable,” the WABC 770 AM radio show hosted by John Catsimatidis, that Democrats will take the legislative branch’s oversight capability “and turn it into a weaponization of government.”
“They say they’re not going to, but we know they will –– they’ll do a third impeachment of President Trump,” Jordan told the host. “But that’s just part of it. They’re going to investigate the first family, they’re going to investigate cabinet secretaries.”
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Impeachment means nothing if the Senate does not remove him from office. Which they won’t because the corporate overlords are making money hand over fist becoming the worlds gas station.
https://youtu.be/knviR8GOias
This lady gets it.
I don't know who Jim Jordan is, but I predict a third Trump term.
Laws or enforcement doesn't seem to mean anything in the USA any more.
Gym Jordan
Yes. That's the idea asshole.
Consequences for crimes.
Fuck around, find out.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
I thought you dumbasses professed to be the "law and order" party? Guess that was just another big fucking lie like all your other claims...
The biggest bullshit is that legally speaking, he will get away with everything he did. the supreme court declared that everything the president does is legal. that was some major bullshit.
if what the president is doing now is "legal" then the new president can "legally" have the old president marched into a meat grinder.
"sorry bro, but it was an official act of the president, nothing we can do about it"
what Biden should have done when the supreme court decided that. immediately and illegally expand the supreme court or illegally arrest the conservative judges that voted for that. so the new supreme court would reverse that stupid decision.
problem is i don't think they'll be able to get rid of him
No shit, Gym
I sure hope it doesn't end with just impeaching donnie, either.
All of his accomplices should be hounded with lawsuits and prison time for the rest of their miserable lives.
The Guiliani effect should be the bare minimum.
What is that?
Slowly having your life, reputation and financial stability destroyed due to your support for Trump and his wacky schemes.
Ah, perfect. Yes. Well, I hope it is not all that slow.
melting in a sex toy shoppe parking lot
LOL, that entire performance, from fucking up the location, but then not wanting to admit the fuckup and having it anyway, all the way to him trying to, in real time, simply wish away the election results, because "the media"....
It was a perfect encapsulation of the donnie administration 1.0.
Jim Jordan is certainly somebody who would be in prison right now if there was justice.
So true.
Impeachment means nothing. Removal is where it’s at.
Impeachment itself means nothing. But they can open investigations into all sorts of stuff under the guise of impeachment preparation. They can bring everything to light and leak it all to the press. Done correctly, the whole first family can be dragged through the gutters forever.
Two little words doing some heavy lifting there.
Dems couldn't "done correctly" a fuck in a brothel.
Don't tease like that.
Removal of his head from his shoulders, and same for the rest of his administration. Fucking INSANE the word “treason” isn’t used more.
People get all pedantic about the exact legal definition of treason, forgetting that the word has a common understanding of betraying one's country.
We don't need to litigate the specifics, trump has done treason.
Holy shit would they have a long list of charges at this point...
Don't forget to always accuse others of the shit you're doing.
Oh I know how to prevent that. STOP DOING CRIMES!
Conservatives don't care about rule of law, they think whatever they want to do is fine, and whatever their enemies do is crime. It's just a question of having the power to enforce that view.
The oligarchs believe they are entitled to do anything they want. MAGA Conservatives are mostly just brainwashed boot lickers who do their bidding.
Too late
Woah now let's not go about this too hastily. If they stop doing crime how will they make money?
I guess Jim Jordan has more faith in Democrats than I do...
Oh, the Democrats wont hesitate to impeach him. They know it gets them brownie points, while nothing tangible actually happens.
What should they do instead?
Maybe they should send registered Democrat voters another text message saying, "omg isn't Trump bad?! Send me money" /s
Impeach and remove him from office for crimes perpetrated as the representative of the people. That’s just the start of what should happen.
I'm sure they want to do that. They tried twice already. The votes aren't there in the Senate.
Most of them should recieve the harshest justice a mob can dispense to traitors. Neoliberals are conservatives and need to be dealt with as brutally as any other fascist.
Sherman's work is not done yet.
That doesn't really answer my question. If Democrats win majorities in the House and Senate in the upcoming midterms, what should they do? I'm assuming they won't have enough votes to remove Trump from office, just like last time.
Unless the Senate flips and they convict.
Oh yeah, MAGA is sure that they're going to be investigated and imprisoned because they know how guilty they are, and they wouldn't hesitate to go on the attack if the situation were reversed.
Like one Nazi General said, after hearing that the Russians had beaten the Nazis, crossed the Volga, and were marching toward Berlin: "If they treat us half as bad as we treated them, we're in big trouble."
That's how MAGA sees it, even if we know that Dems have been too insipid and feckless to fight back in the past. The new crop of Dems coming after the Midterms won't have that same cowardly attitude. They're pissed as Hell, and looking for scalps, and nobody knows it, and FEARS it, more than MAGA.
We should INDULGE them.
Fight fascism.
Like actually fight it.
As long as conservatives continue to exist in the U.S., Sherman's work is not finished.
Oh great, because the last 2 did so much!
It made MAGA jump through hoops in a panic, and the entire world was talking about Trump's corruption. That's not nothing.
And history will NEVER forget it. It's never a bad idea to put an evil dictator's crimes on the permanent written record for all time.
Any time and effort they spend fighting impeachment is less time they spend fucking up everything else.
Literally everyone I knew thought impeachments automatically kicked you out of office until his first one, and it's insane that they don't do that.
Impeachment is analogous to Indictment in criminal law
Basically everything requires agreement between the house and the senate. The house impeaches, and the senate convicts, thereby agreeing with the house. If they disagree, it stops there just like any other legislation.
I feel like the big official sounding word of "impeachment" should be reserved for after the Senate convicts. Otherwise it's just a meaningless gesture on behalf of the House.
I began searching to see how Bill Clinton was removed, then I realized the Senate acquitted him and his term naturally ended later that month. Andrew Johnson also wasn't convicted.
This mechanism of removing the president from office has literally never worked before! The whole impeachment process is an overhyped nothing burger!
Edit: I should add that all three presidents had the majority of Senate vote to convict at least one of the impeachment charges, but they needed a 2/3rds supermajority because why not?
Clinton's impeachment is why not. People forget that the blow job he lied about getting that he was impeached for wasn't what he was being investigated for. The investigation was for a supposed shady land deal that turned out to be completely above board. They just kept desperately searching for anything they could because they knew they couldn't win the next election.
The 2/3rds rule makes it hard to convict so that type of purely political move isn't a normal function of congress.
Hes going to veto everything out of spite anyways. Better to publicly read his crimes... Weekly
Can we make him face consequences for Epstein, and his felony convictions too?
SCOTUS says no. So, we need to remove them first.
We need to make it illegal for conservatives to hold any position of authority. Conservatism can bring only oppression, sickness and death. History has proven this throughout all recorded history.
He didn't rape all of those children while in office so SCOTUS can go fuck themselves.
You don't know that, there's zero evidence any of this ever stopped, just that epstein was arrested and killed
MAGA is a proven Domestic Terrorist Organization, and a genuine, ongoing National Security Threat. As such, it should be declared illegal, and prohibited from existing. Anyone who identifies as MAGA is a Domestic Terrorist, and should be deeply investigated.
Nazi symbols, KKK propaganda and confederate flags need to be completely destroyed, and these fools shouldn’t be allowed to spread their views on public platforms. They need to be constantly harassed and humiliated out of existence.
We should be targeting and eliminating white religio-nationalist organizations and purging their influence from all levels of government, especially law enforcement.
Fascists take advantage of free speech to spread their subversive views and seize power.
As much as I am against racism and fascism I am also equally against white-washing history. These things happened. They are in our history. We should not 'completely destroyed' they should be used to learn from otherwise we're due to repeat them.
They should be confined to being taught about truthfully in an educational setting, and not allowed to thrive outside of that. The inhumanity and evil of it needs to be stressed.
We’re repeating history now. The bigots are embolded and using Amerikkkas latent hatred as a means to seize power for the alt-right. And it will be repeated time and time again until we actually finish Sherman’s work.
That's fair -- put them in museums next to the nazi stuff
We should impeach Gymnasium Jordan as well.
…third (ineffective) impeachment. Impeachment is useless if it’s effectively meaningless.
Like most laws about what a government official (especially the president) can and can't do. The amount of illegal shit trump does on the daily is insane. But who will be successful in actually making him face consequences?
I hope the impeachment process takes just 2-3 days. Here's 100 reasons, just shut up and vote.
The time has come to take a stand and make our voices heard!
The appropriately named Liar Liar has some excellent advice for how Trump (and his cabinet and family) could avoid further criminal investigations, impeachment, and congressional oversight hearings:
I couldn't get further than this:
Reverse Victim and Offender.
When politicians say “people in the private sector” they’re not talking about us. They’re talking about their big donors.
So… who is supposed to give a fuck about this again? Does Gym think the people that voted for him care about protecting his big donors?
This is the kind of bi-partisan nature I expect in the US.
Republicans campaigning for Democrats and Democrats campaigning for Republicans.
Why would a Republican make statements that make people vote Democrat?
Half of united statesians still like trump our country is fucked
I mean his approval rating is -22.4 -- 37.5% approving, 60.1% disapproving.
https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin
But the reason might be something stupid, like if gas prices suddenly go down a week before the elections, everybody's suddenly happy about him.
Exactly, a bunch of those disapprovings will still vote for him they just disapprove of gas prices at the moment
Yeah, but only because he’s a convicted felon
I predict they’ll capitulate and let bygones be pedophiles.
It's almost like they are controlled opposition who accept bribes and pretend to be progressive to keep their positions. I think that makes them conservative traitors worthy of an appropriately brutal punishment.
Rep. Jim Jordan, predicts you will get wet, if it rains
Third time’s a charm!
He's a sex offender. Why should we listen to him?
Is he? Genuine question. I knew he was down to protect the pedophiles but didn't realize he was raping or something
The judge in the case came out and said that what he did was rape, but because of NY law definition they couldn’t get him for it.
The problem is NY penal law definition versus how society knows and defines it/how it’s defined elsewhere.
Impeachment? This dude should be in an old folks home. He's barely lucid, and they've been doing a Weekend at Bernies for 2 years with his barely there corpse.
If they weren't complicit in his crimes, he'd have been removed from office a long time ago.
He should be in solitary confinement serving hundreds of consecutive life sentences
Id only accept a cold ditch in many pieces so his soul cannot reach the shadowlands, requiring him to roam the shithole he's created and polluted forever
Why doesn't trump ever talk about the guys that tried to assassinate him?
And nothing will come of it again because democrats are spineless.
I get so tired. They know he’s a fucking criminal and he and his family have committed crimes.
But they don’t care.
What did the first two impeachments accomplish? His term wasn't cut short and he faced no consequences at all. Maybe democrats think the impeachments count as a "black mark" on his record or some dumb thing like that, but in practice they didn't matter. Democrats had the opportunity to prosecute trump after 2020 with plenty to prosecute him for, including Jan 6th, and yet they sat around and did nothing for four years. I'm sick of this dog and pony show.
We want him in prison idiots and we do mean it this time
What if they refuse to keep him in prison, and offer only a brief timeout?
Then we will go straight 1790’s France
Sounds a little like Gym Jordan is trying to get democrats to take control of the House
Fingers crossed! Let's hope this time it sticks and there will be widespread convictions across the republican party and the Trump crime family.
If by "sticks" you mean the Senate votes to remove… they won't. There's not sufficient votes. That's the consequence of years of fascist propaganda leading to Republicans controlling enough of Congress to stop the needed votes.
Not they the dems will bring articles of impeachment, but that he’ll actually be impeached.
Interesting.
Technically all that means is that the articles of impeachment pass the House.
Trump has been impeached twice already, the Republican controlled Senate refused to convict.
It troubles me how many people do not know this
Oh I know the difference. I don’t think he’ll actually be impeached, much less removed.
But what I meant was Gym J. Didnt say they’ll bring articles of impeachment. He said they’ll impeach. This means he thinks they’ll be able to.
I’m actually skeptical.
I've always thought that Gym Jordan was an expert in the obvious. What insight!
Oh, no!
/s
Also, this guy is a regular Michel de Nostredame, right here.
Also /s
Waste of time unless he’s removed.
Absolutely wrong but ok
No absolutely correct. Impeachment at this point is literally just virtue signalling. It's bandied about by Democrats who want to seem like they're doing something, but don't want to use the actual tools they have to rein Trump in.
There's zero chance Trump will be removed from office by an impeachment. Republicans are slaves to Trump. They won't vote to convict him. There is literally no point in impeaching Trump beyond throwing red meat to the Democratic base.
If Democrats gain control of Congress, they need to be fully prepared to use the full power of the purse to stop the bastard. That includes shutting down the entire government if necessary. That includes denying funding to the military if necessary. That includes completely cutting off funding from ICE and Trump's surveillance state. But a lot of these necessary actions are politically difficult for Democrats because they hurt the corporate donors that feed the party.
They like impeachment because it allows them to seem like they're doing something without actually having to do anything. They can impeach Trump, and their donors will know that nothing concrete will actually come from it. A Democratic Congress can bring Trump to heel, but that will require a willingness to actually fight some very powerful and entrenched corporate interests. And that's generally where Democrats perform the worst.
So no, it is in fact you that are absolutely wrong.
Just so, so, unbelievably eye-wateringly wrong
Historically it matters, not only to show that he was impeached for x actions but also who voted to keep him in. The cost of living is going to cause democrats to have to do something shortly, giving in to their corporate donors can only go so far with a president who's intent is to cause as much damage and get as much money from taxpayers as possible. The Corporate/Politician relationship only continues to work if the people believe regardless that the politicians are still working for them. With the price of fuel and goods skyrocketing democrats are going to be forced to show they are trying, and I don't mean a strongly worded email from Schumer.
People have become obsessed with identity politics in the age of social media and unless something tangible changes in the way of rising costs, this could shatter the worldview of a few people when they have to start paying $5 for a banana.
You're a very silly person.
If their wrong, what would be the actual impact of a third impeachment that won't get though the Senate?
The answer is zero impact. He's been impeached already, his reputation is already tarnished and unless they have realistic expectations of a Senate conviction, it's pointless.
This is why I expect even a democratic win to be mostly pointless. Supreme Court says 2/3rds of Senate is the only body that can hold the executive branch accountable, so the branch is free to do anything it wants without repercussion so long as over a third of Senate says they are Republican.
Even more wrong, great work
It'll probably be just as effective as the previous 2 times as well unfortunately. Remember when impeachment actually meant something?
Not really. We've never actually removed an impeached president, and the Clinton's impeachment was over his testimony about his affair. Not the affair itself, just his testimony about it. So at least we're now applying it to things that should actually be impeachable.
Accountability is by default. The fact that MAGA tries to avoid it, taking rather than fairly trading, is the problem.
The fucking better impeach him if given the chance, yeah.
Uhm, based?
Fetch
Is there a three-strikes rule, and he's automatically out?
🤞
Does impeachment achieve anything, or have any consequences at all? Not really sure what the point is, seems to have no effect
Impeachment in the House is the first step to having a standing President removed from office. The second step (after the required first) is for the Senate to hold a trial. If 2/3rds of the Senators vote to convict, the President is removed.
What has occurred to trump so far is Step #1 two times without Step #2 being executed.
I would have hoped that people would have looked any of this up by now. It's trivial to do so.
But to save you even that much efffort: Impeachments happens in the House. It is a vote, and that means it largely happens along party lines. If sufficient votes are cast in the House to impeach, it goes to the Senate to vote for removal, which requires a two-thirds majority. It is extremely unlikely to happen, and so far when he was impeached, he was not removed by the Senate.
Does it do anything? Yes and no. It is a political process, not a criminal/judicial one, so some people can argue that it's just politics, but also nobody has been impeached twice before. It's also a matter of norms, so it is quite possible that Republicans will now impeach any Democrat president from here until our political system fails. So while impeachment definitely meant something in the past (although arguably even with Clinton's impeachment, the impeachment itself was a political witch hunt), it is certainly meaning less and less as time goes by. It SHOULD mean something, but then again we shouldn't be dealing with fascism, but here we are.
Worst take of the day
Why do you like performative pointless measures so much? What exactly do you hope to accomplish by impeaching the fucker a third time?
I think you're an AI, as I don't think any human that stupid can figure out how to keep breathing.
Ad hominem attacks look good on you
As if democrats are gonna do anything. They are worthless
Username checks out.