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lemmy.today

he apparently is 20yo, i thought he was older. im guessing he was suppose to be next new thing for younger genz/gen alpha to get into the manosphere. thiel had some odd choices.

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Thiel is still an old, creepy gay man. (I'm gay too, so I'm emphasizing the 'creepy' here.) It makes complete sense that he'd pick a young, attractive guy.

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lemmy.world

Apparently funded by Thiel.

It comes as no surprise to me at least. In recent years we've been hearing how these manosphere and right wing guys are funded by right wing oligarchs. I mean the basic production values are top notch. It can't be explained simply by the widespread availability of professional film making equipment. Which is the explanation I hear often. You can pick a random content creator with no audience who has somehow procured expensive equipment yet they won't be able to reach the same level of quailty because they don't know what they're doing. Plus they don't have the money to buy production staff to run everything for them. That in itself gives a false sense of capability behind the characters.

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These guys need to be treated like terrorists. They're training young boys and men to abuse and assault women. When conservatives cry about public schools teaching kids "liberal" values like sharing, it's because they're projecting. They're the ones brainwashing boys to become violent misogynistic pricks.

Fuck Peter Thiel and fuck his army is insecure manlets

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They'd likely have to live with the Oligarch and do mouth stuff.

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he apparently takes blood from his previous YOUNg male model to "make him self younger". im guess this was his new one. clavs sudden appearance on social media wasnt by accident.

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M137reply
lemmy.today

He is apparently 20yo, I thought he was older. I'm guessing he was supposed to be next new thing for younger genz/gen alpha to get into the manosphere. Thiel made some odd choices.

FTFY.

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He is apparently 20 years old. I thought he was older. I'm guessing he was supposed to be the next new thing for younger people (Gen Z/Gen Alpha) to get into the manosphere. Thiel made some odd choices.

FTFY.

FTFY.

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feddit.org

Manosphere and rapist. Name a more iconic duo.

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theolodisreply
feddit.org

You mean raping children surely, nobody would care if they wouldn't act on their attraction.

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Snowclonereply
lemmy.world

modern psychology doesn't identify attraction to children as related to normal human sexuality like other sexual attractions, it's outside that aspect of human behavior, and also not all child sexual abuse is related to attraction often it's a rapist picking a ideal target.

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"Although some people who commit child sexual abuse are pedophiles, child sexual abuse offenders are not pedophiles unless they have a primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children, and many pedophiles do not molest children."

That's exactly what I am saying, calling every sexual abuse of children pedophilia makes it seem as if it was related to attraction, when most of the time it's not.

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Smoogsreply
lemmy.world

I don't see how celebrating torture is the higher road here.

Correctional or isolating them as a problem from rest of society is one thing.

Torture makes criminals of us all.

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sh.itjust.works

Criminality is an irrelevancy IMO, that just means that for good or bad reasons you've broken the law and been found guilty. If I degloved a member of the KKK before shooting them that's illegal but not immoral IMO, if I was found guilty I would be a criminal but not necessarily immoral.

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No I'm not here to argue morality over others or play comparisons with you.

Simply remove them from harming anyone else. You don't have any jurisdiction for anything further but to keep yourself safe.

When they are behind bars: you're safe. Nothing further should be required for you. It's a safety concern and nothing further as far as you are concerned.

You only have to keep your own judgements for your own morals. Not theirs. Engaging or celebrating in torture is not looking after your own morals regardless of how you justify it.

Your stuff <==//==> their stuff.

It's not a comparison. It never was.

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lemmy.curiana.net

"The charges listed against Clavicular, 20, whose real name is Braden Peters, are one count of rape, one count of drugging someone for sexual intercourse, and one count of procuring liquor for someone under 21 years old, according to the records."

Looks like all charges are related to the same event.

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

I assume the liquor referenced was the "drugging someone for sexual intercourse", instead of another date rape drug.

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It’s more about making assumptions about how our court system works.

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lemmy.world

Isnt this one of the ones he admitted and bragged about on stream? He's publicly confessed so many crimes.

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she's also a streamer and they did a few streams together, he's claiming it was consentual and she's trying to get money out of him, please note, these are criminal charges involving police, and a prosecutor is bringing charges, she isn't suing him privately and these charges can't be settled out of court for money.

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she states he snuck her into clubs and bought her alcohol on a few other occasions. It was in the article when I read it. don't know what to tell you. I think the rape was one occasion

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sh.itjust.works

But he has done everything by the incel playbook, why won't women sleep with him?

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lemmy.today

he looks like the type that would attract people like thiel rather than chicks(thiel made him his new plaything to push the manosphere)

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sh.itjust.works

Thiel is not closeted at all. He married his husband almost ten years ago. He's just an incredibly horrible person

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I'm pretty sure he was outted against his will years ago. Which is why he funded Hulk Hogan's battle against Gawker, eventually killing the company entirely.

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Broadfernreply
lemmy.world

Might need to add a tone indicator (“/s”) to clarify you’re pointing out the heinous attitude and not actually endorsing it before you get further downvoted

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lemmy.zip

Someone pointed recently, that technically this guy is the first male-to-male transsexual, so technically this is the first know trans rapist in the past decade or so :-)

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qarbonereply
lemmy.world

first male-to-male transsexual

what are you even talking about?

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lemmy.zip

Making a joke that he had so many operations and took so many drugs, he effectively would qualify as one

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ani.social

That's stupid. Your joke wasn't funny, but not like in an offensive way, but in a "you had to explain it and also it wasn't good"

I'd workshop it a bit more before you try it out again.

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lemmy.zip

I do not believe that it is the joke that is stupid here. Some people got it.

I’d workshop it a bit more before you try it out again.

Aha. Read it again. How do you think workshoping works?

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Haha it's so funny to "jokingly" blame a rape committed by a cis guy on trans people /s.

As if trans people don't get enough bullshit already. What a stupid ass joke.

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so technically this is the first know trans rapist in the past decade or so

Well that’s a lie. It’s not even hard to find that your claim is bullshit

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lemmy.world
> Does everything to look as good as possible
> Women still don't consent to sex with him
epicfail.jpg
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lemmy.world

Turns out personality was always the biggest barrier/asset

But fr I wouldn't be surprised if he just prefers raping to consensual sex

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I did knew at least one "rape fetishist" turned out to be a real rapist from a long time ago. Yuck!

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lemmy.world

No surprise. What’s the ROI there, Clav?

I recommend the Channel 5 interview with Clavicular. It was all new to me and the guy is a trip.

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Raiderkevreply
lemmy.world

I felt so much dumber having to listen to him speak for that long. I put it on at the start of a ~1 hr drive. I didn't want to fumble around with my phone to turn it off, but man it was hard to listen to. The guy is insufferable.

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lemmy.world

Pro tip: podcasts, audiobooks and such often work better at the speed of 1.15 or so.

This message is brought to you by that time I watched 'The Matrix' 2 and 3 before discovering the speed option in VLC. Which I still lament.

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lemmy.world

If it's spoken word stuff, the feature to remove dead air really helps, too.

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lemmy.world

Idk, I like natural flow just fine, it's just that some people talk slowly compared to others (to e.g. James Duane or Cory Doctorow). I can't imagine removing every pause from a talk — or rather, I've seen videos that are edited that way, and it's quite jarring.

In fact, I'd prefer if audiobooks had more pauses in appropriate places, namely between chapters. I need a bit of time to file what I just heard under ‘a section ended’ without going into another one without a break.

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lemmy.world

Eh, YMMV. The apps Overcast and Pocket Casts seem to make it work just fine so much so that I don't really even notice it once I turn it on for a given podcast. At least with an app, it's you with the power to change it, or turn it off/on, and you can decide which podcast(s) to turn it on for and how much it does.

I think I know what you mean for certain videos...I hate it when some people use that "clipped" style when the video jumps, often for some kind of comic effect or to emphasize some point - I'm sure it has a name, but holy shit is it something I cannot unsee and I've been seeing it for so many years now. It seems so many Youtubers do it, especially if they trend younger. It is one of the most overdone effects ever - to the point that I bet sometime down the line, it will be mocked like the star-wipe effect is a joke from video editing software from the 80s....

It reminds me of that style that radio uses a lot, where something is said, than it's repeated again with an echo effect, and I've been hearing it since the 90s. I'm sure that has a name, too, but hearing these things is like the Wilhelm Scream - once you hear it, you'll hear it over and over and over....

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lemmy.world

I think I know what you mean for certain videos...I hate it when some people use that "clipped" style when the video jumps, often for some kind of comic effect

Not comic really, it's just all the “uhhh”s and “ummm”s cut out along with pauses that are deemed too long. Basically a way to one-shot the filming process by doing lots of editing. I definitely notice the editing when watching the video, idk for sure if I'd hear it just by the audio.

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I wish I could find an example of what I'm talking about.

I think some is done more for "engagement" and editing for time and trying to game the YT algorithm (sigh) and like you said, removing the sneezes, coughs, uhhs and ums and doing it rather inartfully since it's mostly a disposable format.

I'm talking about a certain style of presentation that seems intentionally done where sentence fragments are kind of chopped together where one word barely or doesn't even end, and another begins.

What's worse is I've heard Gen Z and alpha sometimes try to imitate this style in everyday speech and if people think vocal fry is annoying, holy fuck, this is 1000x vocal fry.

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lemmy.world

I've never had a podcast not work because of the speed I was listening to it at, what do you mean they work better?

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lemmy.world

‘Work’ in the sense that they better match my speed of comprehension and the rhythm of life to which I'm used. The same way as films from the eighties are often quite slow, e.g. watching Bill Murray take half a minute to walk across the room in ‘Where the Buffalo Roam’ was too much.

In the podcast app I'm using, I have speed setting for every subscription set to an optimal value, depending on the host/guests and the density of material.

Previously I've also tried higher speed like 1.3, but found that I can't remember the content afterwards.

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lemmy.ca

That’s a lot of words to say “I have the attention span of a toddler.”

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Your comment has about as much to do with what I wrote as chocolate does with fish. By your logic, it's better to listen at 0.00000001 speed because that would mean I got attention span of a supergenius.

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Also btw, if you think that an increase in playback speed of 15% radically alters the timespan of media, you need to get your own perception faculties checked.

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Americareply
sh.itjust.works

I'm wary of channel 5 after they gave their mailing list away to hunter biden's memecoin team. I'm not a fan of that.

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I looked it up and they gave emails away to boost other projects and when this project started asked for them not to be included in crypto advertising. None of his subscribers ever received emails through his list for crypto due to this request.

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I think you missed the second half of that story. Andrew posted a short video about it - that is not exactly what happened and hunter biden's team agreed.

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Yes, he screwed that up. I am aware of the issue and my info is in there. Whether it was intentional or not, I think Andrew made a mistake through ignorance (either that it was wrong or that he’d get caught) and he seems to be mostly owning up to it. I’d like to think he did not have ill intentions, so in light of the superlative work he and his team do I’ll let that one slide for now and move on. But I am also far too cynical to be convinced the list got deleted as promised.

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lemmy.world

Yet another right wing influencer out there just raping. God they just love rape so much and it's so unbelievably consistent. I wonder how many girls he hurt before he got reported. Furthermore, will this go anywhere? The Tate's still haven't been sentenced and Trump and his cronies also haven't and won't see justice.

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lemmy.today

thiel apparently has sorta abandoned him, after clavs "crash out" on the interview. so he might not get any legal help.

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He's a rich white male boy, he doesn't need thiel to protect him just the US justice system operating as normal.

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If true, he probably dodged a bullet. Theil's previous "blood boy" died under mysterious circumstances

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lemmy.world

Sounds like he wants to get a cabinet position with the Pedo Party. I mean, rape is on 99% of their resumes.

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No they're not. They've been redacted. You don't put down "Good Ole Boy" in your CV.

They just know.

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orioler25reply
lemmy.world

Article about a young woman getting raped, Lemmyites respond by making it about the thing they care about more. Yeah, we all know that the manosphere is closely related to the fascist cultural moment we're in, but you know that isn't what you were referring to.

Have some respect for fuck's sake.

Edit: and of course, as is usual on Lemmy, you guys get pissed if you aren't pat on the back for having the bare minimum sense of morality (allegedly) and being told that it isn't enough. You aren't special for thinking rapists and pedos are bad, and you're bad for thinking you're enough with that alone. You guys know that you can see profiles of people who downvote, right? I can see that it's a bunch of middle-aged men pissed at this.

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qarbonereply
lemmy.world

What is offensive about this, in your opinion?

It doesn't trivialize, or even speak on, who this guy raped. If you believe all conversation should be about the victim, that is one thing. Although some victims might not want their trauma the center of conversation.

What you say isn't what they are referring to is the only relation I'm seeing. What else would they be talking about?

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qarbonereply
lemmy.world

Rape culture is a setting, as described by some sociological theories, in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to that setting's attitudes about gender and sexuality. Behaviors commonly associated with rape culture include victim blaming, slut-shaming, sexual objectification, trivialization of rape, denial of widespread rape, refusal to acknowledge the harm caused by sexual violence, or some combination of these.

I don't see how their comment would be described as any of these. Perhaps one could read the joke as listing "rape" as a some simple, necessary credential for politics and, in doing so, trivializing rape.

However, the subject of the joke isn't the rape nor the victim, but the rapist Clavicular and the administration, referencing how many of the current administration have sexual assault accusations against them. The joke doesn't downsize what he did or apologize for it.

I am genuinely not seeing how that bolsters or perpetuates rape culture.

Edit: and you just tried to insult me instead of answering my question about what you meant by this

Yeah, we all know that the manosphere is closely related to the fascist cultural moment we're in, but you know that isn't what you were referring to.

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orioler25reply
lemmy.world

Rape culture is a setting, as described by some sociological theories, in which rape is pervasive and normalized due to that setting's attitudes about gender and sexuality. Behaviors commonly associated with rape culture include victim blaming, slut-shaming, sexual objectification, trivialization of rape, denial of widespread rape, refusal to acknowledge the harm caused by sexual violence, or some combination of these.

Lol, "if you consider the joke about rape to be making jokes about rape, to be making jokes about rape, to be making fun of rape. It's fine if it is the rapist, who hasn't been raped, is being made fun of for maybe getting raped because it isnt making fun of the victim, just victims [hypothetically]"

Shuddup, dicknuts.

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qarbonereply
lemmy.world

It's fine if it is the rapist, who hasn't been raped, is being made fun of for maybe getting raped

Who the hell said anything about Clavicular getting raped?!

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I wouldn't bother. This person is likely foaming-at-the-mouth levels of angry and unwell, and appears to be having an argument with themselves that they've plucked out of thin air.

I would bet they simply misinterpreted things and thought this was a "ha ha rapist will be raped" thing. But that's what happens when you go through life with conclusions and work backwards....you get it wrong a lot.

Has happened to me too. But typically one doesn't double, triple and quadruple down.

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Are you just not capable of speaking like a normal human being? They asked you a question.

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orioler25reply
lemmy.world

That would exceptionalize them. These are just run of the mill 20s-40s liberal men, that's why it's just shit like this and then like, opinions on the new KDE updates.

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Surely "Lemming" would be the most appropriate title, then? It emphasises the groupthink and circlejerking that is even more prevalent here than in other, more mainstream, online spaces.

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lemmy.ca

Reminder to all that all walks of mental illness are all over social media, and if someone is obviously crashing out it's best not to engage. For everyone involved.

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leftzeroreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

Don't know, you sound more like a mix of a ten and a seven to me...

(Also, 3 isn't buffoonish, he's just a bad father, victim of a poor education, unwilling to admit to himself that he regrets the way he treated his son; tragic, angry, sad, but definitely not buffoonish.

And anyone who calls the flip-flopping milquetoast #12 “unbothered and collected” has clearly not seen the film.

8, 1, 9, or even 4 would be much better options for the second picture, and, again, maybe 10 or 7 for the first one.

At least watch the film before you go making ill-informed memes about it; it's a timeless classic for a reason.)

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orioler25reply
lemmy.world

Reminder to all that all walks of mental illness are all over social media, and if someone is obviously crashing out it's best not to engage. For everyone involved.

Seriously though, a cherry on top that one of you did some faux film analysis out of anger of my meme making fun of the (100% actually is) buffonish juror 3 rather than any of you taking thirty seconds to read about what rape culture is (despite oh so many of you apparently thinking rape is bad [a lie, like the deceitful juror 15])

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Pretty funny coming from the guy who refused to answer when asked what, specifically, was offensive about this:

Sounds like he wants to get a cabinet position with the Pedo Party. I mean, rape is on 99% of their resumes.

How does this promote rape culture? Why did you resort to strange ad hominem rather than just answering the person's simple question. You're so mad, it should be very easy to explain why.

And yet...

Like there are actual bad taste rape jokes in here. This wasn't one of them.

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You guys know that you can see profiles of people who downvote, right? I can see that it's a bunch of middle-aged men pissed at this.

Oh no guys, we better think twice before downvoting this borderline nonsensical comment.

Calling the Trump administration the rape administration is not a joke about rape, it's literal reality.

Edit:

Wait, they didn't call it the rape administration, they said "pedo." Also true. All the comment you replied to did was point out the reality that the current US administration is full of literal rapists.

That's not a rape joke. There's no joke at the expense of any victim here. You're losing your mind, bud. Take a breath.

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IIIreply
lemmy.world

Other than absolutely everyone, who could have seen this coming?

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The little of seen if him, I thought he was gay. Like hiding in the closet behind his fancy clothes gay.

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lemmy.world

He has been known for “bone smashing,” or using a hammer to intentionally break facial bones so they grow back stronger or looking better. The trend has been called potentially unhealthy and dangerous by experts.

Can I help with this? I don’t mean to judge at all. I’d just love to get behind that hammer. Please let me help you break your face with a hammer… I promise it’s for your own good and the bones will look better… uh some day… maybe.

If not, then I’m more than happy to break your face all over again, you know with a hammer, over and over. It’s for your sake.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Not sure why we need experts to tell us that breaking your face with a hammer is a bad idea.

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Jerb322reply
lemmy.world

Goes along with all the ridiculous safety signs on everything. Someone did it. So now, you gotta tell the dummies, not to.

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lemmy.world

Actually, all the ridiculous safety signs produced these idiots. Remove the signs and labels, and watch how soon these people disappear from society LOL. They don't give away Darwin awards like they used to, and now only the stupid people are breeding.

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orioler25reply
lemmy.world

In this one comment section, there have been people in support of sexual violence, subordinating sexual violence to their aggrieved entitlement over US politics, and now eugenics. Jesus fucking Christ with you people.

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lemmy.world

Listen, I'm not one for eugenics, but the manual to my 72 midget described how to adjust the valve lash and set timing. The manual for my 12 Impreza states not to drink the battery acid. Do with that information what you will LOL.

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lemmy.today

i doubt he really did this, what he probably is doing is doing plastic surgery, or worst JAW surgery. his fans are taking it too seriously, alot of them are considering JAW surgery to make them "look" better. i seen them post a couple times that jawsugery sub, very delusional. they were being told they dint have any problem at all. the people who need it, had health reasons to do so. jaw surgery is very INVASIVE and has alot of potential complications. jay leno is known for his prognathic jaw, he dint get the surgery because the recovery/complicaitons is usually not worth it. i was actually surprised how many men bought into his LOoksmaxxing stick.

i think young women has thier own looksmaxxing thing going on for a similar reason.

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I agree, but what does that have to do with my desire to hit his face with a hammer? I want to hit him with a hammer… for beauty! For his own sake…

Don’t you want him to get what he’s looking for? I want to give him that gift. I will absolutely break the ever loving fuck out of his face with a hammer. It’s what he wants and trust me it will heal bro.

I’m just trying to be altruistic and truly want to beat the ever living shit out of that skull so it can finally be pretty.

Just like he wants.

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Sternreply
lemmy.world

Someone is gonna be practing holemaxxing on fella in the showers

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So jokes are now sexual assaults? Equivalent?

This asshole needs to be shamed and mocked by society.

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Funkt4st1creply
lemmy.world

"Extremely insecure man than 10-13 year old future-incels look up to"

Guy hits his face with a hammer to cause microfractures to improve his jawline

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And seems to be psycho. Peter Thiel (of Palantir/"knows the antichrist" fame) used to bankroll him.

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You know, Facial Feminization Surgery (a type of gender affirming surgery) is not that different, it's just done under medical supervision. Someone should tell him that's an option

In true gender affirming surgery fashion though, he should be required to get a psych screening, at least two therapist letters, insurance pre-approval, a letter of recommendation from his primary of at least 1 year, an endocrinologist letter, his SAT scores, and have a bank loan before he's even considered for it

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Funkt4st1creply
lemmy.world

If Matt Rife could do it, so could he. Unfortunately they think that getting surgery makes you fake and the natural solution of "Smashing your face with a hammer" is preferable and more Aryan.

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lemmy.world

In true gender affirming surgery fashion though, he should be required to get a psych screening

All the raising awareness about mental health in 2010s and it fell to deaf ears. I am a guy and I agree whatt they say about men, we'll do anything but go to therapy.

A person doesn't even have to admit going to therapy, just go to one. I'm aware it's not possible for many due to financial constraints, but for those who could afford, what's their excuse?

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Step 0 of going to therapy is realizing there is a problem that you are in need of assistance solving. Men are brought up thinking they are owed the world and everything wrong with them is just something they need to push down, push through, or be aggressive about.

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lemmy.ca

I guess he wasn't good looking enough to attract any females and then got all mad about it once he discovered it's more about personality. /s

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Clavicular never did the bonesmashing stuff, he just had actual plastic surgery and he looks fine. So did Eliot Rogers, btw, these hateful dorks just can't seem to figure out that women don't like them for a lot of other reasons, mostly the hate and violence parts.

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people accidently 'mog' him on a daily basis. when you put everything into looks your just displaying insecurity, and people pick up on insecurity fast.

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Wrong. It's always the one you'd least suspect. A guy who hates women would never hurt women.

It's fucking irony, fuck you.

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What an absolutely vile person he is, hope he gets 20 years minimum.

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lemmy.world

What the hell is looxxmaxxing? Is it some bullshit "influencer" shit?

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nehal3mreply
lemmy.zip

Ugh I wish I knew as little about this as you. Genuinely jealous.

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i happened upon the jaw surgery sub(i have a prognathic jaw so i was curious), and there are people this delusional, thier dysmorphia, believes that after watching clav/looksmaxxing tiktoks, they think thier "facial features" need some Surgery to "fix" it. the people in the sub, said the people need therapy, because thier jaws are perfectly normal, even better than average in some cases. they cant connect how serious a jaw surgery is, let alone you need do alot of pre-op work on your jaw. and they would even use "terms" that no normal person but professionals use.

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lemmy.zip

What the hell is looxxmaxxing?

Advocating unnecessary cosmetic surgery.

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Don't forget weird home "remedies" like smashing your own face with a hammer. They also inject themselves with sketchy Chinese chemicals. I wish it were only as bad as advocating for surgery (though admittedly that's often toxic itself)

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So those rubber faced weirdos (like Madonna). I thought it is young girls having thick layers of plaster on their faces and strong weird lips. I see lots of those on streets :)

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A portion of it literally involves hitting youre face with a blunt object repeatedly for... somehow shaping a chiseled jawline? It's mostly a bunch of unproven toxic bullshit that's tied to the rest of the 'manosphere'.

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Broadfernreply
lemmy.world

4chan incel cult shit (which seems to have already been an Epstein class psyop) that’s propagated further into the mainstream. An extension of what’s been targeted at women in the past but even more politically convenient.

As follows:

  1. Make young men insecure about their looks, and feel isolated.

  2. Sell them a “solution” you know full well is snake oil bullshit. Not just for profit, but to intentionally set them up for failure.

  3. When they fail, have them do two things. First, point at an outside influence to deflect blame. Usually this is women as a demographic. Then, tell them the only acceptance they’ll find is within the in-group (cult), and that srsly we promise it’ll work just keep trying.

On loop.

So now you have your volatile base to perform your will, AND a huge chunk of the (usually systemically underemployed) working class is refusing to cooperate with their peers which prevents organization against oligarchs/other oppressive interests.

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some already had done jaw surgery to looksmaxxing, from an unethical surgeon of course. the jawsurgery sub for people with actual defects, is filled with these types.

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Don’t forget the male version of duckface: sucking in your cheeks to highlight cheekbones and jawline

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“The practice of taking one or more sometimes extreme or dangerous measures intended to increase one’s physical attractiveness.”

He has been known for “bone smashing,” or using a hammer to intentionally break facial bones so they grow back stronger or looking better.

I suspect that in the not too distant future he will receive a lot of assistance from others with the breaking of his facial bones.

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lemmy.today

looksmaxxing is making your face have a very masculine features, square, or large long jaws. and clav proposed using hammer to smash your bones to make them heal and grow longer,(although i dont think he actually did this) some people are considering JAW surgery for this reason.

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Kokeshreply
lemmy.world

Why the fuck would anyone want to do any of this? Reading this it sounds like a description of mental disorder.

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Body dysmorphia. A lot of incels have it and their communities are basically built to foster it

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i have a prognathic jaw so i got the curiosity of visitng the jaw surgery community,(subs) and there are people that DELUSIonal. they are basically assuming thier jaws are all "misaligned or thier face looks wierd" when people in the sub who actually had/need it, said there is nothing wrong with them. at least 1 of them actually went abroad from the UK, to TURKEY and got a sketchy surgeon to do the surgery, and of course it was botched. they never say they have actual health issues.(they bypass actual surgeon consults in thier own countries by the way, which would deny them go ahead).

bonesmashing is a little more benign than actual surgery, which is more complex and invasive.

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Fucking thank you. I scrolled for a while trying to figure out what this meant. I get I'm old but damn I ain't that old!!

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lemmy.zip

To the surprise of nobody.

I don't get the following these guys get and never have. Remember Tucker Max, the I Hope They Serve Beer in Hell guy? I worked with some guys who were all about him. I borrowed his book from one of them and didn't get it at all. There were a couple of funny bits, but that was it and he got a fucking movie deal off of it. After the movie he kinda disappeared and I figured that was the end of this kind of douchebag. Boy, was I wrong.

The only thing I ever learned from that idiot is that confidence goes a long way, but as far as I know that dude never got married and is likely miserable these days.

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I thought the point of his story was don't be a piece of shit or you'll risk shitting yourself in a hotel lobby

It has been at least a decade since I saw the movie, though. If people think that's something to aspire to, I'd guess Walter White is another role model. Blatant red flag

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I haven't seen the movie but I've read the book. I thought it was pretty clear that most of it was fictional or at least grossly exaggerated.

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Wow that's a name I haven't heard in like 15 years. And I was remembering him as a comedic persona, but no it turns out he was real the whole time. It wasn't just an act like Maddox.

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feddit.org

That sounds about right.

People who feel they have no value, other than their looks, get aggressive when the thing they spent so long working on doesn't pay off.

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from reading her account of things, he was never interested in attracting a partner, just putting someone he could victimize in position he could control them in. didn't work out. If her story is correct, which is pretty easy to believe, he followed the same steps a lot of rapists do, and likely seeks out being an influencer to gain easier access to victims. He said he'd help her develop as an influencer by doing 4 streams together, paid her for her appearance, and pressured her to drink and instructed her to lie about it. then when she was drunk, asleep, he raped her, and afterwords treated her coldly and got her an uber, this is all a very established pattern a lot of rapists follow.

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Thiel has no use for you anymore, after his last side piece got defenestrated he needed a new blood boy.

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piefed.social

It's sad because he's literally a child, but I am 100% looking forward to this guy's downfall arc and how he becomes increasingly desperate for attention as he slowly fades into obscurity. I hope his parents are disappointed in him.

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Yeah, I wouldn't say literally a child, but 20 is a kid. Absolutely old enough to throw your life away doing heinous shit, but still just a stupid kid.

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orioler25reply
lemmy.world

A rape joke under an article about a young woman getting raped. What's the funny, exactly?

Edit: I'm gonna share a link to this post whenever I see people on Lemmy claim that this site is in any way more inclined toward "progressive" thinking. Y'all are literally more mad at someone advocating against rape culture than you are at someone making fun of victims.

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dasraelreply
lemmy.zip
  1. am woman
  2. have been SA'd
  3. welcome to the internet.
  4. go tone police your dad.
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I read this to the tune of Bo Burnham's "Welcome to the Internet" I'll have you know

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orioler25reply
lemmy.world

And as we all know, women aren't allowed to be misogynistic ("dad," nice) and aren't capable of reproducing rape culture. Wonder why it got removed.

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lemmy.world

Think their making fun of the whole bullshit "looksmaxxing" thing, like is that even English? Just say the fuckers name.

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orioler25reply
lemmy.world

"bottommaxxing," is referring to male rape in prison. This person is using the looksmaxing language to make a joke about Clavicular getting raped in prison, because they think it's funny that people get raped in prison. They're making that joke under an article that describes the experiences of a young woman who was apparently raped by Clavicular, so they though this would be a good setting to make that joke because they did not even consider if it would be bad to undermine the severity of sexual violence for their funny haha joke about how the right people deserve to get raped.

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lemmy.world

A joke in poor taste no doubt. Call me crazy but I don't think anybody "deserves" to get raped/killed. I don't care what this guy did, it doesn't justify doing unto them evil. Too many vindictive people out there conflate revenge and spite with justice. And to be fair, a case like this has no justice. The best you can do is lock the fucker up so he cannot harm anybody else, and do what u can to help the victim recover.

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I do think it is interesting that your response to this was more in empathy with the rapists than it was the undermining the severity of sexual violence and ridiculing victims, and then went on to not even consider what the victim would want as justice.

No, people don't deserve to get raped, but it is important to remember that they aren't, this joke references the fact that rape happens in prison, not about whether it ought to be a punishment; I made the addition that it was for "the right people," because I know that's how they'd try to defend it. The real problem is, yes, that this belittles sexual violence and therefore trivializes the harm done to the victims; which is why men use jokes like this and why they think about the rapists before they do the victims.

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He wont need to worry about breaking his own bones in jail just boners

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Ah so he was preparing his looks for prison. Throw the book at him.

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lemmy.ml

Shouldn't all the panties drop by default? I thought that was the main idea?
/S
Not that I have high hopes for lookmaxers - but I am deeply sorry for the victims involved.

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TAGreply
lemmy.world

Maybe he could get consenting partners, but wants a girl passed out drunk before he makes his move? Judging by the fact that he is obsessed with improving his own appearance, I assume he is extremely insecure about his body. Is he too shy to undress in front of someone who will remember what he looks like?

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his "fans" are obssesed with jaw problems that arnt there, very delusional. theres a jawsurgery sub, for people with actual jaw problems, and the people there is seeing things that arnt there(they are all told to stop following looksmaxxing content. they are obsessed with trying to get a very invasive jaw surgery upper or lower jaw, or both. of course they will have to find a very unethical surgeon that would do it(one did in that sub)

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lemmy.world

And of course, the article describes how the police are following the standard "victim wasn't a good enough victim," discrediting practice.

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Jesus, some of the headlines make me weep for the human race.

Dumbest shit ever.

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lemmy.world

I'm sure all this "physical attractiveness" will finally be put to good use in jail.

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lemmy.ml

Prisons full of rape sound like a cruel and unusual punishment. Wish we could be better then this, even for this douchebag.

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oursreply
lemmy.world

And prison should be about rehabilitation over punishment.

Losing one's freedom should be punishment enough.

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Why is our recidivism rate so terrible?

What's that? You have a criminal record? Sorry, I can't risk hiring you.

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bitjunkiereply
lemmy.world

Rapists getting raped is one of the few cases where the American "justice" system actually makes the punishment fit the crime.

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And yet it's still horrible for the state to turn a blind eye to the rape of people it forces into a position they can't escape from.

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The memes shall continue until prison conditions improve.

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The only thing surprising about this news is that it took this long to come out.

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I will not be surprised if the offended woman simply slandered her ego

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piefed.social

That pretty face gonna be a real negative in prison.

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Cherryreply
piefed.social

Love the downvotes. Maybe some people think having a pretty face is a good thing for prison.

Or maybe I am expected to be nicer to a rapist.

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Or maybe I am expected to be nicer to a rapist.

Or maybe in a thread about rape people aren't in the mood for fratboy-style rape "jokes" even if they happen to be about the rapist. There's also a distinctly homophobic colour to all the "jokes" about how a man's going to be raped by other men in prison.

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