MAGA Is Exploiting the Lindsay Clancy Case to Try to End Voting for Women
On Sunday, Fox News reported, “Calls to repeal women’s rights to vote are emerging from the online firestorm over the Lindsay Clancy trial, prompting Republican women to warn that the intraparty rhetoric could hurt the GOP.”
The fact that this article was published by Fox News was itself noteworthy. Press Baron Rupert Murdoch is one of the few remaining centers of power on the right who is strong enough to pick fights with Trump and his MAGA supporters. In recent years, Murdoch’s outlets have carved out a position for themselves as gatekeepers who work to protect the GOP brand from the most self-destructive impulses of MAGA. One recent example of this phenomenon is the decision to fire (or at least take off the air) the firebrand election denier Maria Bartiromo.
The Fox article was also significant for highlighting how the tragic case of Lindsay Clancy is being exploited by the hard right to justify misogyny. Clancy killed three of her children in 2023. Her legal defense was that she suffered from postpartum psychosis and bipolar disorder. Eleven jurors voted to acquit Clancy based on this argument, but one juror resisted, leading to a mistrial.
Nine of the jurors who voted to acquit—presumably because they thought Clancy deserved pity rather than harsh punishment—were women; the lone holdout was a man. The hard right has seized on these facts to justify arguments that women are incapable of reason. The Fox article quoted a post on X that made a common argument: “The female jurors in the Lindsay Clancy trial are speaking out about their deliberations and disagreements with the sole male holdout. The more they speak the better they make the case for repealing the 19th Amendment.”
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That seems like political suicide. Either no one votes for your insanely shitty platform or idiots do and then you have a revolution. Because we’re not going back, hard stop.
Based on legal history Clancy should be in prison. I agree that mother's need more help, but there's no way we will ever provide the level of care Clancy received. (every family is not getting a nanny and cleaners to help out.) If she's found not guilty then that needs to be applied to everyone equally. There are several cases right now that are very simular. We could end up with men and women who killed their whole family walking around free. That's not justice.
Edit: Letting her even spend the rest of her life in a hospital would be a major departure for how we treated poorer and darker women. The narrative around this whole case has me wondering whose running the PR campaign for Clancy and why? The judge should have sequestered the Jury. I think redu was the best outcome once it turned into a circus.
Asserting that Clancy should be unfairly punished because poor women of color are treated unfairly isn’t the argument I would use.
massachusetts has extreme leniency in that the prosecution has to prove she was sane at the time beyond reasonable doubt, which is basically impossible, so not guilty and to the hospital she goes is the only outcome I see.
The narrative is because women (and anyone who has gone through mental health experiences like hers and has empathy) see their own struggles in what this lady went through, and people who never went through it think "lol woman get off because she was sad ok then." I think she's guilty and it's absolutely her fault for not leaving when she realized she was going downhill, but I can still empathize with how hard her mental health situation was.
She's not walking free tho. She's going to a psychiatric hospital instead of a prison.
I know. But that can't be a set amount of time. She could theoretically get out at some point. And once again, that's fine as long as everyone else who commits a murder during psychosis gets the same thing. Same situation, same judge, and the judge didn't even allow that ex-mother use her psychosis as a defense. The only difference was the skin color and economic bracket. Luckily that woman is getting a new trail. What about men who do harm when psychotic episodes happen? Even if we could return to the 1920s way of locking away the criminally mentally ill we are a long way from even that.
I thought it was between jail and a "loony bin" not jail and freedom?
Looney bin can't be prison sentence. We have prison with hospital/medical wards. Why is that not acceptable?
"All the women are telling us we're wrong. We should probably take their voices away."
Typical fucking conservative logic. I hate these people
A mentally ill woman kills her kids, so women shouldn't be able to vote?
What happens when a mentally ill man shoots a bunch of random people?
Hey, stop making this political! /s
Tragic lone wolf, nothing can be done
Thoughts and prayers.
I mean just go to the Notable Familicides section and observe the extraordinary amount of men and few women perpetrators.
I literally got banned from a very popular community for pointing this out once.
Apparently it's misandrist to acknowledge simple facts.
The simple fact is that men disproportionately commit violent crimes, and it's heavily tied to patriarchy enabling it.
I mean just look at how many people on that list are of a society and/or religion that enforces strict patriarchal rule of society and family.
Men in these environments are taught from childhood that they're supposed to keep all members of their family under their thumb, and anything less makes them a fundamental failure of a man. So they abandon anything even remotely resembling empathy towards women and children to protect their own egos and status. Thus, violence becomes acceptable to enforce domination, in their minds.
You don't have this in nearly the same capacity with women in any society or religion. It wasn't even what happened in this case of murder.
It would seem facts don't have a place right now. Can't last too long. Ignoring reality has never worked out for long.
Same thing that happens every day when a mental man kills. Either shoot self, shot by cop, or mysteriously dies in custody.
Rarely do the mass murder men make it to trial.
Oh I feel bad for laughing so hard at this
Wow, a classic.
I wouldn't say that
Never mind the weekly family
annihilators who are not women and who never make the news. Same with any other issue about women. They don’t actually care unless they can exploit it to harm us while pretending otherwise.
bad thing: 😐
bad thing, woman: well clearly this says a lot about women as a whole and they get a pass for everything and...
It really is the best to have to live in a society where people who say this shit aren't only tolerated, but provided with platforms (and sometimes straight cash from far right lunatics) to push it.
Especially when I'm old enough to remember when this was decidedly not the case. I remember what it was like, and I'm fucking furious that they took it away from us.
Our society has been poisoned.
It was only a decade ago!!!
Same. It's so sad.
I don't think this is why they voted to acquit. It was cause she knew there was a problem and was reaching out and doing all the right things and nobody was helping her.
This was an entirely avoidable case in a country where we care about mental health.
I didn't know anything about this case besides its existence, but it looks like she had plenty of professional assistance, a number of prescriptions that were both taken and not, recommendations of hospitalization that were declined and later accepted, and on and on. I'm not saying the system didn't fail her, but she had a lot of help along the way. I would not call this a traditional case of someone falling through the cracks.
There are also indications that social stigma on her and her husband's part caused care to be declined at times. That's a separate issue that we need to address as a society.
I didnt really follow the case. How was she turned down or how did it happen that help was refused?
Like were her doctors complete asshats or what exactly happened? It doesnt help that there were already two kids, like was her husband having her constantly pump out kids? Was there any discussion about constant
LMAO all the retarded MAGA wives fucked around and found out.
They could just say they don't want women to vote because they tend to be more empathetic and compassionate and therefore vote against conservatives. Just tell the fucking truth for once.