fwiw, I think this is their actual endgame: use digital to convince people this isn't a small cabal of the ultrawealthy causing so much of this harm.

They say dictators don't need majority support, only a majority of people doubting themselves.

Humanity's fine if we ripped down these over-paid pedos instead of allowed them to run billion dollar scams...

If you're the last one out, please shut off the lights.

The meaning of the idiom is remarkably clear in English. I propose we adopt this one.

I think we say, "don't hold your breath," in English.

Ah, in English we say "don't hold your breath" for that, although sometimes it's also used for things that might happen eventually but it will take a long time.

The English equivalent would be "Don't hold your breath"

It works. I'm going to start using it in fact.

Doubt.

If you knew much about libertarianism you would know what the non-aggression principle is, and you would know that we don't condone or approve cp

I mean I can be libertarian and see that legal definition holding water while also thinking that's fucked up to want to see naked kids. Loli bait or otherwise is a problem and people should be shamed when they make, buy, or engage with it.

Doesn't the widespread outrage kind of speak against this, though?

Here in Hungary, it was a scandal regarding the cover up of sexual abuses of young children under state protection that sparked the overthrow of Orbán, and was the only thing that managed to crack that nut finally. It's hard to overstate how much it galvanized people, even his own supporters, against him.

I don't know, I understand that it's demoralizing and I can even buy the argument it's more normalized than it should be, but the very existence of outrage against figures like Epstein (which seem to me to be extremely widespread, though maybe I'm missing something being out of the country for some years at this point) or this Hungarian scandal lead me to think the vast, vast majority of people do not find it remotely normal or acceptable. I don't think tarring all of society with the brush that it's been normalized is accurate. Or I'm misunderstanding what you mean by normalized.

Might already be capitalizing on it with the international sex trafficking of children. Surprised most people don’t know about shit pop or you call it hip hop.

Fuck spez

And maybe no surprise, Epstein was involved with the beginnings of 4Chan.

it's highly likely she was u/maxwellhill

It's what they call my pecker.

Google's image generation model. Yeah that's a horrible name.

"I am becum death, hnnnnnnngh!" --Oppenheimer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demon_core

The demon core was a sphere of plutonium–gallium alloy that was involved in two fatal radiation accidents when scientists tested it as a fissile core of an early atomic bomb.

Scientists referred to this flirtation with a nuclear chain reaction as "tickling the dragon's tail", based on a remark by physicist Richard Feynman.[12][13]

It was a case of an unfortunate mistranslation due to the lack of awareness among historians about the thriving scalie scene at the Manhattan Project.

He unleashed his Little Boy all over Hir! (oshima)

This comment reminded me of a cherished Little Joel video.

Yeah, honestly, you could go way further back.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurine

A Venus figurine is any Upper Palaeolithic statue portraying a woman, usually carved in the round.[1] Most have been unearthed in Europe, but others have been found as far away as Siberia and distributed across much of Eurasia.

Most date from the Gravettian period (26,000–21,000 years ago).[1] However, findings are not limited to this period; for example, the Venus of Hohle Fels dates back at least 35,000 years...

For context, we figured out agriculture and started to move away from hunter-gatherer life about 12,000 years ago.

These figurines are recognised as some of the earliest works of prehistoric art.

Most have wide hips and legs that taper to a point. Arms and feet are often absent, and the head is usually small and faceless. Various figurines exaggerate the abdomen, hips, breasts, thighs, or vulva, although many found examples do not reflect these typical characteristics. Depictions of hairstyles can be detailed, and clothing or tattoos may be indicated.[5]

The original cultural meaning and purpose of these artefacts is not known. It has frequently been suggested that they may have served a ritual or symbolic function.

I have a guess.

Its a bit overstated. Sure, Sony blocked adult material from Betamax, but VHS simply had longer running time on the tapes, a larger library, and far cheaper hardware.

I never said it did

Possibly but you need the context of how actually bad facebook ads moderation is. We already seen almost a billion euro fines for this and it's just the tip of the iceberg. I work adjecent to scam prevention and facebook ads are notorious for scams and Meya is intentionally loose with moderation because ads make shit ton of money and scammer's dollars are just as good as any.

So realistically it Meta benefiting from scams rather than pushing some agenda through ads which is still incredibly bad if not worse.

Agreed. That's even my point.

thankfully rape is a physical crime, not a mental one

The Satanic Panic was largely about the US public learning (and being aghast) that CSA is epidemic in the US. At the time, one in three women surveyed were sexually abused as kids. (There are several good deep dives on the Satanic Panic. I recommend the webcast series by Sarah Marshall.)

At the time, we just couldn't handle the notion that CSA was being done by people the kids knew (parents, neighbors, friends, teachers, ministers and so on), so we made up the mythology of Satanic Ritual Abuse, that there were these vast rings of Satanists (not the TST kind or the LaVey kind) who were diddling kids as a way to worship the Christian devil, and gain magical power. Americans were not prepared to acknowledge that the abusers were among themselves, and so they bought into the story.

Now there are CSA rings that exist, and the Epstein child trafficking ring is among them, but it's a smaller circle. The thing about being high enough in the ownership class is that legality (or morality) no longer is a barrier to getting stuff you want. And so there's a preponderance of drug use, of sex tourism, of sending gay kids to conversion therapy (or troubled teens to abduction/reformation camps). And so there are industries to facilitate these needs, because the demand is there and they have money to spend.

Moreover, the global system of capitalism depends on contrived desperation. Workers who are skipping meals are more eager to take on jobs that pay meagerly and are dangerous and arduous. When food, shelter, healthcare, etc. is a right, suddenly workers cost a premium. The same thing applies to sex trafficking. After the collapse of the USSR, girls from those countries were glad to put up and put out if it meant a reliable meal ticket. Single-digit kids were on the streets peddling sexual favors for lunch money. This was a font Epstein tapped for his service staff. The more desperate the girls were, the less grooming they required.

Hopefully, this is the moment we figure it out, that as long as we have an owner class, we're going to have systems of contrived desperation to drive bonded servitude, including child trafficking. Especially if the owner class is exponentially more wealthy than the worker class. Maybe this is the moment we are able to collectively develop class consciousness, since it directly serves to protect our children.

Is also not exclusive to men.