It's possible, but the spikes and drops in metabolic rates doesn't work for everybody. If you're fit and healthy you can probably handle it, but many people need more steady metabolism throughout the day.
Also, your body can only absorb so many nutrients at once. If you try packing all your daily requirements into one meal, you're going to shit a lot of it out. You might absorb all 2000 calories or whatever, but most of the vitamins, proteins, etc. are going to get flushed down your toilet
I worked construction around 18-19. I was a skinny kid, like 130lbs. After working all day the boss would order in food. I once ate an entire large pizza and drank a 2 liter bottle of coke.
TBF, at eighteen years old one can eat three large pizzas in a row and not make a dent in their weight. When I came home after a school day, I'd discover a full pan of fried potatoes and chow down half of it right at the stove.
Well yes, now that you mention it, I'm a professional doom scroller. I do active stuff occasionally, my metabolism is how incredibly slow from endocrine issues and age :(
Looked at the article, and it starts off pretty stupid
While everyone else seems to be slugging H20 from 40-ounce Stanley tumblers, I have never understood the appeal of drinking plain, tasteless water all day.
Some people live in areas where the water tastes bad, but seeing the water as "boring" might mean that you're drinking too much of the other stuff (soft drinks, juice, sugary etc). It's not that those other things are not hydrating, but they're unhealthy for other reasons.
The question feels more pressing than ever given rising temperatures, heat waves
I refuse to normalize a world where people lack access to clean drinking water. 😠
The rest of the article is pretty standard advice. There's no set amount of water that everyone needs to drink, and your diet/lifestyle/body composition/the weather will all play a role. Going based on thirst is a good indicator, but make sure you actually drink water when you're thirsty. [email protected]
But using that to justify unequal access to clean drinking water is a big no.
And if you're in the subset of people who struggle to register thirst, either through perceiving it as hunger or just not registering it at all; use the pee test.
If your last pee was yellow, drink some water. If clear or nearly clear, you're fine.
If brown, drink lots of water and pray to Dionysus to become hydrated before the hangover kicks in.
The author of the article seems to think people use water bottles because they justlike, enjoy drinking water constsntly for no reason. (Its fine if you do) Or some "misguided" advice about how much to drink daily.
When people probably just carry them so when they are thirsty, they have something cheap and not unhealthy to drink.
After many visits for my daughter with different doctors, all of which were different specializations, the consistent advice from all of them was "going by thirst" is absolutely wrong.
They each said if you wait to be thirsty, you are already dehydrated.
You should drink whenever you want to, or are mentally thirsty. That being said, after many years of being a child in school (water fountains tasted like drinking chalk), i had to train myself to feel thirsty again without being dehydrated. Probably a safer bet to just go by pee color or have a cup or two of water at dinner/during exercise.
While everyone else seems to be slugging H20 from 40-ounce Stanley tumblers, I have never understood the appeal of drinking plain, tasteless water all day.
The question feels more pressing than ever given rising temperatures, heat waves
The combination of these two takes has to be among the dumbest things I've ever read, what do they think those other drinks are made of? I'm entirely certain that the process of making another drink uses up more water than just drinking that volume of water in the first place.
everyone else seems to be slugging H20 from 40-ounce Stanley tumblers
It just occurred to me that all these people lugging around Stanleys or whatever, I wonder what percentage of them have something other than water in there? 🤔 Sugary drinks, energy drinks, alcohol? Y'know there's a non-zero chance that some people are merely MASQUERADING as hydrohomies.
I have even better - I3P. Iodine, check. No goiters here. 3, widely believed to be the next highest whole number (citation needed). Phosphorus, check. Good for flower/fruit production.
Put it all together, you might get grapefruit sized growths, but they won't be goiters.
journalist drinking 6 pumpkincinnamoncock flavoured chaimoccalattuccinos for 18 bucks each to then sit down and tell people they don't need a whole liter of water
Three article boils down to the author being a whiny WSJ entitled asshole, which is what I expect from the WSJ.
Author, you don't need the 40 oz cup.
Quoted Expert, you need around 125 oz a day.
Author, but water is so boring and tasteless, I want sugar and you get a fraction of water from food right? I don't wanna drink water. Written Toddler Tantrum ensues
Author, so in conclusion you don't need that 40 oz water cup.
Right wing newspapers love to do this shit where I live. We get into a crisis, people start skipping meals because they don't have money, and they will talk about the health benefits of dieting and fasting 🙄
right wingers have a serious problem with comprehending the idea of consent. is dieting and fasting good for you? yeah sure, when done right. but is being forced to do that good for you? hell no, even if there are health benefits you didn't choose to do that. and in the next sentence they'll preach about freedom
Health is, ultimately, the product of diet and exercise/physical activity. You get out what you put in. Everybody knows this.
The problem is...one of the problems, for there are many...ok so a few of the problems are, as others have pointed out...ultimately come down to housing and city planning.
The problem is, we somehow can't figure out how to get diverse, fresh food, within a walkable/bikeable distance of everybody. So that leaves a few options:
Be car-dependent, or
Buy shelf-stable (or frozen, or more preservative than foodstuff) food from a place within walking distance (which also means buying no more than what you can carry at a time), or
Dine-in, take-out, or drive-thru
It also doesn't help that most American's are overworked and can't find half an hour to cook an actual meal, let alone sit down and enjoy it. We're all burning the candle on both ends trying to make ends meet. And our food selections allow us to pick two out of "fast, cheap, healthy".
Cheap and Healthy? Will cost you time.
Fast and Healthy? Will cost you money.
Fast and Cheap? Will cost you health.
We don't have a surplus of any of those things...but the one that's easiest to ignore (until it isn't) is health. And so that's the bank we draw our credit on.
Now add car-dependency on top, and we can find the time to at least go grocery shopping maybe once a week. We find the fresh produce is expensive (and probably also harboring parasites), and won't last a whole week in the fridge...but we also kinda feel like maybe we should eat a vegetable every now and then, so we get some...but most of the groceries are gonna have to last that whole week, and will need to be fast and cheap...
It sucks, but hey, it's the best country in the world (or so I was told through 12 years of forced education).
It has some grains of truth but it's mingled with too much personal opinion.
There are studies on how much water humans really need. If you want to calculate it the scientific way, you need to factor in at least lean muscle mass, total mass, surface area, ambient temperature and humidity, activity levels, and diet. There's no magic number of ounces that's correct for everyone.
Fortunately we've evolved a really awesome mechanism. When your body needs more water, you get thirsty.
So if you want to stay properly hydrated, drink whenever you feel even a little thirsty.
ADHD can make you completely ignore that signal for way, way too long.
My body also misinterprets that signal as "hunger", and a craving for some wet food. Maybe like yogurt or a cup of pudding. You know something that just slides down easy. Yeah #thisiswhyimfat.
Yep...
Take my meds and of to the race on one cup of tea at the morning.
Sometimes I will remember the bottle of water on my table in front of my monitors at work. Sometimes.
Me too. Sometimes I feel like I must get thirsty in a reasonable way, but when I actually notice the sensation is another matter. At other times I'm incessantly thirsty.
We can seperate regions easily enough and their peak humidity seasons. You just need to factor in sedentary, semi active, active and athletic lifestyles.
I was so annoyed by the Stanley cup thing because it's a really cool design, I would have been onboard with it if it hadn't been so expensive and become a meme fad
Ditched the 40oz for a 134oz. Best decison I've ever made. All the water I want and a weapon built into one device. It even comes with nice sturdy handles.
Bezos really needs the water for his data centers. Come on guys, don’t be a dick and just dehydrate yourself and shower for 10 seconds max and we can have all the data centers Jeff wants!
Doctor said I should drink 100oz a day soooooo.... I'm gonna keep trusting my medical professional instead of a random idiot who doesn't like the taste of water.
In the water wars documentary, Holes, it was proven that children and young adults could work all day in the sun without any significant amount of water. Therefore your allocation of water will be limited further until morale improves. Woke unionized overpaid bureacrats just want to take all your money to waste water, instead of using that money for useful datacenters and more oil drilling.
Iirc, the studies that showed that lower sodium diets reduced risk of heart problems were performed on people that already had heart problems, not in the general population. And my cardiologist is happy. Every time I see him he looks at my 30oz water bottle and checks with me that it's not plain water. Too much plain water without salt is bad for you.
I do watch and make sure my electrolyte powder doesn't have B6 or anything else I could accumulate too much of.
Dear OP,
You've posted an image instead of linking to the article. I don't understand why everyone on Lemmy doesn't understand this is completely worthless.
Me
It's clickbaity. The conclusion is pretty unexciting: for most people, all you need to do is drink water with food and when you get thirsty. Maybe this will help somebody who's over-obsessed with getting enough water, and it's impacting their quality of life? It really feels like they couldn't find anything good to write about, so they had to dredge this up.
NB: the conclusion includes this:
One caveat: Some researchers warn thirst can be delayed or reduced with age or certain medications.
Age or certain medications or certain medical conditions. I have ADHD, so I legit won't get thirsty 95% of the time. I have to have something to remind me to drink.
Except it's completely true - rare for WSJ, I know, but not completely unheard of. The weird hype around really unnecessarily excessive water intake is "Facebook Grandma Nutrition"-level bullshit. Healthy people have a reliable, fine-tuned mechanism for figuring out when water is needed: it's called being fucking thirsty
over an entire day, sure. needing to carry a 1.2l container around all day seems to me overkill. carry a smaller bottle, refill it when needed, drink a glass of water with your meals etc. remember, juice, tea, coffee, coke etc are mostly water and also count towards your water intake
Depending on where you live, you may not have access to a fountain by the time you need more. I carry around slightly less large bottle (1L) and you can bet your ass I had gone through it on the days when I had to be outside in 100+F/38+C weather for hours, and I got home thirsty. It is way better to have too much water and not need it than to not have enough and need it.
Sadly that is something many people can't rely upon. I am not that old, and have a tendency to get pretty dehydrated before i get thirsty at all. Old people are famous for getting so dehydrated that they get delirious - ask any nurse working in a hospital, they will agree that this is the case. With summer temperatures rising this will hit a lot more people of the already affected groups, and additional groups which are not sensitized yet towards that issue.
I agree that most people do not need to drink 3 liters of water per day. But what happens is that people aim for that amount and then land somewhere around 1.5-2 liters / day, which is a pretty good amount for normal days, and they will be more alert towards their water intake on hot days, which prevents deaths.
There is a difference between "drinking a glass of water wouldn't hurt you" and "you are dehydrated and it is medically relevant". Every organism on this planet can easily cope with a reduction in available water if it isn't severe. The operating conditions of a human body, if formalized, would only state a minimum of water intake, because the optimal amount of hydration varies wildly from person to person, and it is also dependent on outside circumstances, like heavy work or high temperatures.
During the winter months, i am completely fine with around 1 liter of fluid intake per day most of the time when sedentary. During the last 2 months, i have topped out at around 7 liters/day (i do sweat a lot), which made me a bit nervous and i made sure to increase my normally very low salt intake a bit, to prevent running out of electrolytes.
Which is why "thirsty" as an indicator is the problem. It is your body telling you there is already a problem.
Every organism on this planet can easily cope
You can easily cope with all manner of problems. You can go 2 months without Vitamin C. You shouldn't wait until you develop the first signs of scurvy before eating an orange.
After many visits for my daughter with different doctors, all of which were different specializations, the consistent advice from all of them was "going by thirst" is absolutely wrong.
They each said if you wait to be thirsty, you are already dehydrated.
It was news to me because I grew up with "drink when you are thirsty".
Yeah, until that mechanism isn’t working anymore, as distraction nowadays is a real issue. Too often I forget about water intake if I don’t have water next to me.
Additionally, go ask dermatologist what they think about water intake. You can literally see differences in skin health, especially long-term damage which cannot be reversed.
It seems to be an American thing. When I was in the US I was confused by all that drink cans are labeled in weight measurements rather than in liquid measurements. Although I guess it's the US so I should just be grateful that it wasn't been measured in fractions of a corgi or something.
A pint's a pound, not quite the world around, mostly just in the US, Liberia, and Myanmar, but also in several commonwealth countries and not to a precision level where local gravity applies
Does that not mean that you get different amounts of liquid for the same 12 fluid ounces, because a pint of water does not weigh the same as a pint of beer, which in turn does not weigh the same as a paint of Coke.
No. Fluid ounce is the volume. Most filling processes utilize the specific gravity of the solution and then fill by weight.
1 L of water is 1kg. Let's say you add 500 grams of sugar. Now the solution has a specific gravity of 1.5mg per ml. So a 500 mL fill (16.9 oz) is 750mg. This is really rudimentary but I hope it kind of explains how the process should go.
Do I need to feel bad about wanting to get an RO system yet?
Like on the one hand, I don't really want to keep drinking teflon and microplastics. But on the other hand, there's a lot of waste from RO systems...but on the other hand, residential water waste is peanuts as far as conservation goes. Also I blame the teflon for having too many hands.
Maybe they aren't "going after" anybody; I mean this is just a medical reality. Nobody needs to swig water constantly, and kids don't need a juice box every two hours. And wipe your feet, I just scrubbed this floor!
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2027: “Do you really need three meals a day?”
That was 2023...
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/cpi-report-today-january-2023-inflation/card/to-save-money-maybe-you-should-skip-breakfast-fSd6mz0miaAPhUFb2jgy
Yeah but we didn't listen and now all the food is poison.
Well, technically, you don't. If you eat enough calories in a single sitting, you only need one meal a day.
It's possible, but the spikes and drops in metabolic rates doesn't work for everybody. If you're fit and healthy you can probably handle it, but many people need more steady metabolism throughout the day.
Also, your body can only absorb so many nutrients at once. If you try packing all your daily requirements into one meal, you're going to shit a lot of it out. You might absorb all 2000 calories or whatever, but most of the vitamins, proteins, etc. are going to get flushed down your toilet
I eat half a sandwich a day and I'm still kicking
You must have a sedentary lifestyle because that would not be enough if you did manual labor every day
It wouldn't be enough even if you use your brain slightly more than what needed to doomscroll all day
I worked construction around 18-19. I was a skinny kid, like 130lbs. After working all day the boss would order in food. I once ate an entire large pizza and drank a 2 liter bottle of coke.
Now that I work from home its a lot less LOL
TBF, at eighteen years old one can eat three large pizzas in a row and not make a dent in their weight. When I came home after a school day, I'd discover a full pan of fried potatoes and chow down half of it right at the stove.
Well yes, now that you mention it, I'm a professional doom scroller. I do active stuff occasionally, my metabolism is how incredibly slow from endocrine issues and age :(
You actually don't, but never admit it
40 us fl oz = 1.1829 L
Thanks
I drink 3 of those a day, at minimum.
I’m an American and I don’t really understand fluid ounces at a glance either lol
Looked at the article, and it starts off pretty stupid
Some people live in areas where the water tastes bad, but seeing the water as "boring" might mean that you're drinking too much of the other stuff (soft drinks, juice, sugary etc). It's not that those other things are not hydrating, but they're unhealthy for other reasons.
I refuse to normalize a world where people lack access to clean drinking water. 😠
The rest of the article is pretty standard advice. There's no set amount of water that everyone needs to drink, and your diet/lifestyle/body composition/the weather will all play a role. Going based on thirst is a good indicator, but make sure you actually drink water when you're thirsty. [email protected]
But using that to justify unequal access to clean drinking water is a big no.
or that you’re a shill , writing a seo prop piece knowing full well coke is a financial supporter of your “newspaper”
And I think it's even broader: If I'm drinking water, I'm not buying any other drinks. I'm not supporting the economy, I'm only drinking water.
thats basically what i was thinking too.
I'm looking forward to the economic collapse of all junk food & junk drinks as humans get wiser & altogether stop buying that toxic shit.
Unfortunately, it seems the majority are getting dumber. Toxic shit is all we're going to have left.
Truthfully I think although the rising generation is increasingly illiterate, they've at least been eschewing alcohol & junk food.
Agreed. They're outwardly health conscious, although they have no problem putting random shit in their bodies if it makes them healthier.
My generation, we were poisoning ourselves with booze, but we know what booze is.
And if you're in the subset of people who struggle to register thirst, either through perceiving it as hunger or just not registering it at all; use the pee test.
If your last pee was yellow, drink some water. If clear or nearly clear, you're fine.
If brown, drink lots of water and pray to Dionysus to become hydrated before the hangover kicks in.
Fully clear usually means stop drinking water for now. It signifies you have had a bit too much water
The author of the article seems to think people use water bottles because they justlike, enjoy drinking water constsntly for no reason. (Its fine if you do) Or some "misguided" advice about how much to drink daily.
When people probably just carry them so when they are thirsty, they have something cheap and not unhealthy to drink.
3 liters a day is recommended. There's absolutely a reason to use those big 40oz water bottles. This article is a lie.
After many visits for my daughter with different doctors, all of which were different specializations, the consistent advice from all of them was "going by thirst" is absolutely wrong.
They each said if you wait to be thirsty, you are already dehydrated.
You should drink whenever you want to, or are mentally thirsty. That being said, after many years of being a child in school (water fountains tasted like drinking chalk), i had to train myself to feel thirsty again without being dehydrated. Probably a safer bet to just go by pee color or have a cup or two of water at dinner/during exercise.
So what are you supposed to do, have a recurring alarm clock every hour?
sort of, yes
Like you are supposed to take breaks from sitting and staring at a screen instead of going 8 hours straight.
So what am I supposed to do, take good care of myself properly?!
All the more reason to drink fucking water!
Holy shit, sometimes wish journalists could be disbarred but I know that would create a slew of other problems...
The combination of these two takes has to be among the dumbest things I've ever read, what do they think those other drinks are made of? I'm entirely certain that the process of making another drink uses up more water than just drinking that volume of water in the first place.
It just occurred to me that all these people lugging around Stanleys or whatever, I wonder what percentage of them have something other than water in there? 🤔 Sugary drinks, energy drinks, alcohol? Y'know there's a non-zero chance that some people are merely MASQUERADING as hydrohomies.
Do they actually call it H20? That's so stupid.
DM me when they come out with H21
I have even better - I3P. Iodine, check. No goiters here. 3, widely believed to be the next highest whole number (citation needed). Phosphorus, check. Good for flower/fruit production.
Put it all together, you might get grapefruit sized growths, but they won't be goiters.
Next problem please.
I guess that's just a lot of hydrogen in a container?
I often add some squash to water, but it barely has any sugar in it and I often go for fairly dilute. Like just a hint of berry, orange or lemon.
SQUASH?! You monster!
I hope that means pumpkin spice or something, even though theres no pumpkin in that stuff....
It's British for concentrated juice syrup.
😆
That doesn't make it better!
Lol, 1 liter is nothing. But yeah okay, it could be a liter of water for the poor thirsty AI data centres.
journalist drinking 6 pumpkincinnamoncock flavoured chaimoccalattuccinos for 18 bucks each to then sit down and tell people they don't need a whole liter of water
God I hate how this may actually be the motivation behind this article.
Fucking bingo.
People are drinking water right from under the data centers!
Won’t someone please, think of the data centres!
I'll think of the data centres as I look at the CEO down the sights of a rifle.
I will when I throw them all in the incinerator just like Glados
"I DRINK YOUR MILKSHAKE SIR!"
That is likely exactly what that propaganda piece is for. “Don’t drink water, it’s silly anyway!”
Coupled with pushing sales of beverages for money.
I figure when the datacenter bubble bursts, the tech companies will keep consuming the same amounts of water and just start selling it.
Gotta find some way to the plot of The Water Knife. (Book has gas pumps that sell water, water meters next to sinks and showers, etc.)
Three article boils down to the author being a whiny WSJ entitled asshole, which is what I expect from the WSJ.
Author, you don't need the 40 oz cup.
Quoted Expert, you need around 125 oz a day.
Author, but water is so boring and tasteless, I want sugar and you get a fraction of water from food right? I don't wanna drink water. Written Toddler Tantrum ensues
Author, so in conclusion you don't need that 40 oz water cup.
The rest of us, STFU you entitled twat.
125 / 40 = approx 3.
That's really an absurdly huge cup if it is about 1/3 of your entire daily water intake.
WSJ: stop drinking water our data centers need it instead
This was my first thought. Are they trying to pull some bs like that. But also the wsj is a disgrace
Bezos (owner of WSJ) is famous for hating his employees's basic biological needs.
As @[email protected] pointed out, Bezos is the owner of WaPo, not WSJ, and thus, the Wall Street wants our water, not Bezos alone.
ah, my bad.
Rupert Murdoch owns WSJ
Right wing newspapers love to do this shit where I live. We get into a crisis, people start skipping meals because they don't have money, and they will talk about the health benefits of dieting and fasting 🙄
The hot new diet trend, poverty.
Have you tried this new drug, Nofudatall? Take it in place of your normal three meals and watch the pounds of fat
andmuscleboil away.Poverty is surprisingly expensive, but you can get Nofudatall for free
withqualifyinginsuranceplans!I heard other countries give it out for free to everyone! Nofudatall truly works but you must pay for it here.
Nofudatall already exists - it's called Ozempic
I did my injection yesterday 😀
right wingers have a serious problem with comprehending the idea of consent. is dieting and fasting good for you? yeah sure, when done right. but is being forced to do that good for you? hell no, even if there are health benefits you didn't choose to do that. and in the next sentence they'll preach about freedom
Ghoulish
But most Americans are fat.
Yes. That happens when all your food comes from the dollar store and the gas station mini-mart, and you drive everywhere.
Health is, ultimately, the product of diet and exercise/physical activity. You get out what you put in. Everybody knows this.
The problem is...one of the problems, for there are many...ok so a few of the problems are, as others have pointed out...ultimately come down to housing and city planning.
The problem is, we somehow can't figure out how to get diverse, fresh food, within a walkable/bikeable distance of everybody. So that leaves a few options:
It also doesn't help that most American's are overworked and can't find half an hour to cook an actual meal, let alone sit down and enjoy it. We're all burning the candle on both ends trying to make ends meet. And our food selections allow us to pick two out of "fast, cheap, healthy".
We don't have a surplus of any of those things...but the one that's easiest to ignore (until it isn't) is health. And so that's the bank we draw our credit on.
Now add car-dependency on top, and we can find the time to at least go grocery shopping maybe once a week. We find the fresh produce is expensive (and probably also harboring parasites), and won't last a whole week in the fridge...but we also kinda feel like maybe we should eat a vegetable every now and then, so we get some...but most of the groceries are gonna have to last that whole week, and will need to be fast and cheap...
It sucks, but hey, it's the best country in the world (or so I was told through 12 years of forced education).
WSJ on that Immortan Joe shit
Do not my friends, become addicted to water! It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!
I ditched my 40oz bottle for a 64oz bottle. The fuck is this journalism.
It has some grains of truth but it's mingled with too much personal opinion.
There are studies on how much water humans really need. If you want to calculate it the scientific way, you need to factor in at least lean muscle mass, total mass, surface area, ambient temperature and humidity, activity levels, and diet. There's no magic number of ounces that's correct for everyone.
Fortunately we've evolved a really awesome mechanism. When your body needs more water, you get thirsty.
So if you want to stay properly hydrated, drink whenever you feel even a little thirsty.
Yeaaahhh....About that...
ADHD can make you completely ignore that signal for way, way too long.
My body also misinterprets that signal as "hunger", and a craving for some wet food. Maybe like yogurt or a cup of pudding. You know something that just slides down easy. Yeah #thisiswhyimfat.
Yep...
Take my meds and of to the race on one cup of tea at the morning.
Sometimes I will remember the bottle of water on my table in front of my monitors at work. Sometimes.
Me too. Sometimes I feel like I must get thirsty in a reasonable way, but when I actually notice the sensation is another matter. At other times I'm incessantly thirsty.
We can seperate regions easily enough and their peak humidity seasons. You just need to factor in sedentary, semi active, active and athletic lifestyles.
After about 23C I swear a lot. I definitely need to replenish what I lose or I get drowsy
"Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you, and you will resent its absence!"
Dang it, I've been working so hard to conquer my addiction to breathing, and now they want me to give up water too??
The article seems to be a list of
products you can buythings you can drink to get your daily hydration that aren't boring old water.How the hell am I going to show off my peer-approved, corporation-branded water bottle?
I was so annoyed by the Stanley cup thing because it's a really cool design, I would have been onboard with it if it hadn't been so expensive and become a meme fad
Well the hype is over and you can buy off brand ones for a few bucks. The trend chasers are all using owalla bottles now I think.
You guys have people to show off to?
It's more of a jumping up and down and loudly proclaiming "Look at me!".
Ditched the 40oz for a 134oz. Best decison I've ever made. All the water I want and a weapon built into one device. It even comes with nice sturdy handles.
Over-hydrating doesn't help, but under-hydrating sure does.
If you're pee is light yellow ya doin' fine.
If you're pee... you are not doing fine.
No no, He's E u r o p e a n.
It's hard to tell with the accents
I could say the same to the data centers. They got to lay off the water bro.
It’s cause Brawndo is the only drink you need!
I don't know... does it even have electrolytes?
Bezos really needs the water for his data centers. Come on guys, don’t be a dick and just dehydrate yourself and shower for 10 seconds max and we can have all the data centers Jeff wants!
Water SUCKS! Gatorade is better
Brawndo! It's got electrolytes!
It's got what plants crave!
🎶 Waaater sucks! It really, really suuuucks! Waaater sucks! 🎶
Fuck yourself WSJ
Doctor said I should drink 100oz a day soooooo.... I'm gonna keep trusting my medical professional instead of a random idiot who doesn't like the taste of water.
Dehydration has severe effects on your mental and physical health
In the water wars documentary, Holes, it was proven that children and young adults could work all day in the sun without any significant amount of water. Therefore your allocation of water will be limited further until morale improves. Woke unionized overpaid bureacrats just want to take all your money to waste water, instead of using that money for useful datacenters and more oil drilling.
You need around 2 litres a day
Bezos wants your water for himself
Edit: this is WSJ not WaPo
Wall Street* wants your water for themselves
Article sponsored by Pepsi?
It's also good for tooth and gum health to drink water throughout the day, it helps keep them clean between brushing.
This has been your daily reminder to take care of your teeth kids!
Teeth kids? If i ever see children made of teeth I am running away. Very fast. Well, maybe not very.
/me laughs in POTS
I'm at 3 liters a day of mostly electrolyte water, 30oz (0.88 liter) at a time.
I mean, why the electrolytes though? That much sodium is gonna kinda kill you
Because of the POTS...
It's a treatment vector for POTS.
I didn't even know what POTS is. Thx for teaching me something new, maybe I should tell my father about it...
Iirc, the studies that showed that lower sodium diets reduced risk of heart problems were performed on people that already had heart problems, not in the general population. And my cardiologist is happy. Every time I see him he looks at my 30oz water bottle and checks with me that it's not plain water. Too much plain water without salt is bad for you.
I do watch and make sure my electrolyte powder doesn't have B6 or anything else I could accumulate too much of.
Oh, nice to know. Thx for being so informative.
Isn't that a kidney stone risk? Someone once told me some health water thingy lead to kidney stones if drunk in too much quantity.
Better than your heart exploding. And I imagine the quantity is dialed in by their doctor to limit risk while still helping to treat the POTS.
Oh it's not POTS as it the volume unit. (roughly 1L)
What do you mean?
Can you imagine taking health and wellness advice from The Wall Street journal? Jesus.
Do not, my friends, become addicted to water. It will take hold of you and you will resent its absence!
Water has the harshest withdrawal symptoms known to medical science.
I've heard everybody who drinks water dies. That's not a risk I'm willing to take personally.
Dear OP,
You've posted an image instead of linking to the article. I don't understand why everyone on Lemmy doesn't understand this is completely worthless.
Me
I went to dig for the rag in question :
https://www.wsj.com/health/wellness/ditch-the-40-ounce-water-bottle-youre-probably-hydrated-enough-c62affd9
it's behind a paywall, and it's probably for the best
It was also posted on MSN, so you can avoid the WSJ paywall.
It's clickbaity. The conclusion is pretty unexciting: for most people, all you need to do is drink water with food and when you get thirsty. Maybe this will help somebody who's over-obsessed with getting enough water, and it's impacting their quality of life? It really feels like they couldn't find anything good to write about, so they had to dredge this up.
NB: the conclusion includes this:
Age or certain medications or certain medical conditions. I have ADHD, so I legit won't get thirsty 95% of the time. I have to have something to remind me to drink.
Yes, but you can still email the health columnist author and tell her she sucks shit at health columnizing.
To be fair, if you ask a doctor there is not much reason for drinking water beyond when you're thirsty.
Absolutely false. A few years ago I had to take my daughter to several doctors each in a different field.
Each repeated one consistent fact: "By the time you are thirsty, you are already dehydrated."
Has the author considered: construction workers
Except it's completely true - rare for WSJ, I know, but not completely unheard of. The weird hype around really unnecessarily excessive water intake is "Facebook Grandma Nutrition"-level bullshit. Healthy people have a reliable, fine-tuned mechanism for figuring out when water is needed: it's called being fucking thirsty
1.2 L is cleary not in the realm of "unnecessarily excessive water intake" though.
over an entire day, sure. needing to carry a 1.2l container around all day seems to me overkill. carry a smaller bottle, refill it when needed, drink a glass of water with your meals etc. remember, juice, tea, coffee, coke etc are mostly water and also count towards your water intake
Depending on where you live, you may not have access to a fountain by the time you need more. I carry around slightly less large bottle (1L) and you can bet your ass I had gone through it on the days when I had to be outside in 100+F/38+C weather for hours, and I got home thirsty. It is way better to have too much water and not need it than to not have enough and need it.
Sadly that is something many people can't rely upon. I am not that old, and have a tendency to get pretty dehydrated before i get thirsty at all. Old people are famous for getting so dehydrated that they get delirious - ask any nurse working in a hospital, they will agree that this is the case. With summer temperatures rising this will hit a lot more people of the already affected groups, and additional groups which are not sensitized yet towards that issue.
I agree that most people do not need to drink 3 liters of water per day. But what happens is that people aim for that amount and then land somewhere around 1.5-2 liters / day, which is a pretty good amount for normal days, and they will be more alert towards their water intake on hot days, which prevents deaths.
Thirst is something no one can rely on. This is the same information I got from multiple doctors each in different fields.
By the time you register thirst, you are already dehydrated.
There is a difference between "drinking a glass of water wouldn't hurt you" and "you are dehydrated and it is medically relevant". Every organism on this planet can easily cope with a reduction in available water if it isn't severe. The operating conditions of a human body, if formalized, would only state a minimum of water intake, because the optimal amount of hydration varies wildly from person to person, and it is also dependent on outside circumstances, like heavy work or high temperatures.
During the winter months, i am completely fine with around 1 liter of fluid intake per day most of the time when sedentary. During the last 2 months, i have topped out at around 7 liters/day (i do sweat a lot), which made me a bit nervous and i made sure to increase my normally very low salt intake a bit, to prevent running out of electrolytes.
Which is why "thirsty" as an indicator is the problem. It is your body telling you there is already a problem.
You can easily cope with all manner of problems. You can go 2 months without Vitamin C. You shouldn't wait until you develop the first signs of scurvy before eating an orange.
I just wanted to emphasize that optimal fluid intake is not a simple number - anyone peddling that is full of shit.
1.5 - 2 liters a day is perfectly fine if you don't just eat dry, salty food. Vegetables contain a ton of water.
While true, as I understand it, for some people needing water makes them feel hungry rather than thirsty
https://www.seattletimes.com/life/wellness/hunger-vs-thirst-are-you-eating-when-you-should-be-drinking/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nomanazish/2021/06/30/eight-surprising-signs-you-could-be-dehydrated-and-how-to-fix-it/
Edit: this place really is cancer. Bootleg-ass redditor nest
Lighten up, Francis!
Reposting because this is completely wrong.
After many visits for my daughter with different doctors, all of which were different specializations, the consistent advice from all of them was "going by thirst" is absolutely wrong.
They each said if you wait to be thirsty, you are already dehydrated.
It was news to me because I grew up with "drink when you are thirsty".
Yeah, until that mechanism isn’t working anymore, as distraction nowadays is a real issue. Too often I forget about water intake if I don’t have water next to me.
Additionally, go ask dermatologist what they think about water intake. You can literally see differences in skin health, especially long-term damage which cannot be reversed.
If you're lugging a gallon of water to work in an air-conditioned office, then yea, maybe reconsider
40oz seems reasonable tho
Or they want to sell more plastic per ounce.
The spice must flow.
Measuring liquid with mass units? Toddlerific
It seems to be an American thing. When I was in the US I was confused by all that drink cans are labeled in weight measurements rather than in liquid measurements. Although I guess it's the US so I should just be grateful that it wasn't been measured in fractions of a corgi or something.
8 fluid ounces is a cup, 4 cups is a quart, 4 quarts is a gallon. Most canned drinks are 12 fl. oz, or 3/4 of a pint.
8 ounces is half a pound.
It makes perfect sense!
A pint's a pound, not quite the world around, mostly just in the US, Liberia, and Myanmar, but also in several commonwealth countries and not to a precision level where local gravity applies
Does that not mean that you get different amounts of liquid for the same 12 fluid ounces, because a pint of water does not weigh the same as a pint of beer, which in turn does not weigh the same as a paint of Coke.
No. Fluid ounce is the volume. Most filling processes utilize the specific gravity of the solution and then fill by weight.
1 L of water is 1kg. Let's say you add 500 grams of sugar. Now the solution has a specific gravity of 1.5mg per ml. So a 500 mL fill (16.9 oz) is 750mg. This is really rudimentary but I hope it kind of explains how the process should go.
A fluid ounce is a unit of volume.
Why tho? 1kg=1l, 1g=1ml anyway, and I like to know how much something will weight in my backpack
That's only for pure H20 (distilled water). Most drinking water has low amounts of mineral salts and other stuff.
The difference is negligible for most drinks.
So? What is the density of drinking water then, that you specifically mention this when someone says water is ~1?
I can't find it.
And yet we let evil prevail. Humanity is pathetic.
I'mma leave this here for all my Hydro Homies
No no, the establishment is obviously going after a community who are a fan of drinking water. How dare you involve science! /s
Drink Brawndo instead! It's also what plants crave! (/s just in case).
Start doubling your intake now!!
You should be drinking 3 liters per day. 40oz is about 1. You should carry those bottles with you all day, and fill it 3 times.
40 ounces is like 1 litre, that's not a huge water bottle, it's a water bottle you clamshell.
Can't find clean drinking water, just cut back... Brought to you by the ruling class who is using up and poisoning all the water.
Begun, the water wars have.
Do I need to feel bad about wanting to get an RO system yet?
Like on the one hand, I don't really want to keep drinking teflon and microplastics. But on the other hand, there's a lot of waste from RO systems...but on the other hand, residential water waste is peanuts as far as conservation goes. Also I blame the teflon for having too many hands.
My pee turns white after 60oz of water, then I eat some salted peanuts.
Pee comes from the balls
Do you want kidney stones? Because this is how you get kidney stones.
Must be soon
When I was a child nobody carried water bottles with you. There was the shared school water fountain and that was it.
When we were out all day as kids we just uses the garden hoses at peoples houses. Or got home and gulped water till you were out of breath
I only have near a bottle of water if I am at work at 30°C or more. But maybe it's because I'm Spanish.
Maybe they aren't "going after" anybody; I mean this is just a medical reality. Nobody needs to swig water constantly, and kids don't need a juice box every two hours. And wipe your feet, I just scrubbed this floor!
Fucking wrong. Absolutely wrong. 3 liters per day is the recommended amount. Whoever told you that was lying to you.
good, they are annoying.