I already support unions (in one) and adore teachers because I pretty much worship at the church of education. They have one of the most important jobs in society. It's kinda hard to make me more sympathetic to their plight, but hey, you did it.
They should ask Matt Bevin how things went when he tried to mess with the Kentucky teachers' unions.
Spoiler: We got Andy Beshear as governor.
(Yes, it's more nuanced than that. He was screwing with more public servants than just the teachers. But the teachers' not-legally-a-strike was highly effective, and I personally knew Republican teachers who actively campaigned against Bevin.)
They’ve done the decades of work to turn people against unions, convincing MAGAts that unions are proto-communist organizations that extort unfair wages though dishonest practices while sitting around not working. They have people looking over at them saying “how come you get paid so much?” Instead of “I should get paid that much too.”
Why? They were well-read women, aka "woke women" so they "sent a message" (don't mess with the patriarchy). Also, King James, his Witch General Finders, and the "demonologists" were all men, and they found women an easier target to do bad things too. They argued that "their feminine wiles" misled many men; therefore, they're in cahoots with the dark side.
Actually, thank you for asking this; with so much insanity coming from this administration I accepted it as real without question. However, after some searching it's unfortunately a real Facebook post by a real asshole. (hopefully that works, Facebooks interface is such garbage)
Once upon a time, the USA had a strong middle class. Billionaires got taxed heavily, and our public schools were the envy of the world. Well funded and produced a lot of great students.
But educated people are difficult to control and even harder to dupe. The GOP realized that if they can gut public education, the masses will become malleable again. Meanwhile, the children of the rich can continue to go to expensive private institutions for their own education. So the rich stay educated, and the poor's go in the gutter.
Also cutting education now has no effect for about 25 years or so(in their view. Its approximately right but not completely true...) Their short term brainrot is so bad they would abolish education entirely in a heart beat and coast on those miniscule savings for a few decades until the world rips itself apart...
Also, my pet conspiracy is they all know the world is going to devolve into chaos due to global heating and climate destabilization anyways so why should they care about education when its not going to produce anything worthwhile when the chaos hits... from what I'm seeing 2040 is where things get dicey and most things have inflected negative. 2050 is where things break down genuinely. Too many bad things happen at once...
It should also be noted that they must be malleable beneath the threshold of the GOPs competence. So to effectively manipulate, the GOP needs a population more ignorant than the DNC does. The left can afford smarter ppl because the leadership itself is more competent, it ain't like education isn't being gutted in blue states as well
Conservatives hate teachers because teachers don’t need to work when kids aren’t in school for the summer. That’s the only complaint I’ve ever truly heard from them. Meanwhile, those same teachers are up stupid early, on time every fucking day, dealing with over-filled classes of every type of child, and then doing even more labour in the evenings as they aren’t officially given much of any time to create plans or mark work.
There's plenty more that they complain about with teachers. They complain that they are ineffective, promote progressive ideals, target their children's shitty behavior, aren't held accountable, and the whole "those who can't do, teach" bullshit.
I used to be a teacher. I've seen it all, heard it all.
Since COVID some Conservative people I know have become like those animals that can't comprehend things that didn't happen right in front of them.
My kid is a teacher (in Canada so they are paid really well). But its solely on them to develop all the lessons and gather everything needed. They are working to do this after hours and weekends.
In the USA we're indoctrinated in schools. Faje history and other b.s.
Im not maga or republican but I also cant side with more bullshit from schools that dont actually teach.
Glad you guys up north get it. Teachers matter even if they are doing the work of multiple people. At least you get paid.
"All unions are bad except my union" is the much more consistent application of inherently hypocritical conservative values, compared to what they can say to a broad audience through right wing media. Hilarious.
Corey A. DeAngelis is an American advocate for school choice.
DeAngelis was an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank. He worked for the American Federation for Children, a conservative education nonprofit group founded by Betsy DeVos, from 2021 to 2024.
He joined the board of directors of the Liberty Justice Center in 2022. He has appeared on Fox News multiple times to as a commentator on education policy.
DeAngelis has described school choice as "a winner for Trump". He contributed to the Project 2025 document, in the section discussing education and the dissolution of the U.S. Department of Education.
In 2024, he released the book The Parent Revolution.
This guy's literally done nothing his entire life besides get paid by right-wing think tanks to undercut public schools
It's a classic conservative propaganda technique to name their evil plans the opposite of what they actually mean. If it contains the word "freedom" it's about tyranny. If it says "protect" it means persecution, and if it says "children" just mentally append "fuck" in front of it.
We need to stop saying right vs left framing. It’s the wealthy class propaganda technique. Poor people that are “conservative” are in most cases just tricked by these parasitic ghouls that spend money to lie to people to work against their own self interests.
They live in a controlled information environment; much like the Russian people who think Ukraine is full to the brim with Nazis.
They have been force fed hate and bigotry for decades at this point. They are not blameless, but also they don't deserve all the hate that is projected at them.
As pointed out, the education system is gutted, thus they are not curious and checking their biases; it is normalized for them to be hateful toward "others"; their whole world is small and full of fear.
I pity them their small pathetic lives, and dislike them for their shitty views. The only thing I hate is that the stupid bigotry seems to be spreading around the world.
I mean, I agree with you on all this, but I have a very hard time seeing how this is relevant to my comment. The topic was conservative propaganda techniques, not hating conservative voters. I despise them, but hate is too strong a word for me to feel for any person.
Because of all this competition we have in the market! With many schools near your home, they compete for your conforming child's business. What with the labor shortage, we have all these employers with that good health insurance competing for our time. And of course, small farmers are doing great and supply our many competing food markets.
Forever? How dare you! We just need diarrhea for this one most important election of our lifetimes. I refuse to acknowledge anything beyond a single iteration.
except blue is more like "we're strongly opposed to diarrhea forever, but this undercooked fish should be good in the fridge for another few days right?"
No, it’s a “ratchet effect” argument. Dems are opposed to fascism in principle, but have shown no interest in stopping the root causes that lead to it.
American here. The blue option is indeed puppies for everyone. But you're getting the rest wrong because you live in a country with an actual functioning government. Nothing in the picture said the puppies were free. The puppies are shipped in large Priority Mail flat rate boxes for $34. To receive a puppy, you must first submit Form HUD-9473126-K9B with an attached $200 money order. Processing time is 6-9 weeks upon receipt, and delivery is 2-3 weeks. The government is not responsible for the condition of how the puppy arrives. If your puppy gets damaged, additional forms and fees apply to request a replacement.
You know when the powerful countries infiltrate 3rd world countries and trigger overthrowing the government?
This is what currently is happening in US and Europe.
Russia is the main one driving it. They infiltrate, bribe politicians, influence public opinion via social media. If they win they start looting the country for themselves, but also using the funding to help sister parties in other countries to do the same.
This is why they all seem to have very similar views, that also "magically" align with what Kremlin views.
This is very cheap campaign for Russia to destroy the Western world, kill EU and divide Europe.
Every politician and influencer involved in this movement should be tried as traitors that they are.
Because we Europeans are almost as fucked in the head as you Americans.
::: spoiler Spoiler
If I had to take a guess what the root cause is, I'd say the problem lies in the difference between the culturally transported image of reality (propaganda, advertisement, algorithmic bubbles etc) and the longing for a life according to human nature (community, good food, sense of belonging and usefulness, spiritual fulfillment etc)
:::
Nah, I don't think the "both sides are the same" argument is anything but propaganda at this point when Obama brought in free healthcare and Trump brought in the Gestapo.
lol no. If anything Obamacare is a textbook example of what I meant - he entered office with a Democrat majority in both Houses and the Supreme Court and a huge public mandate to get it done, and still ended up abandoning all his stated plans for a system where big business interests got their entrenched positions solidified by law.
It would be wrong to call Obama a fascist, but he did the opposite of nothing to dismantle the oligarchy that lead to where we are now.
Well that didn't happen. He brought us a Republican healthcare plan that cemented private insurance into our system and fined people who didn't have any. The public option got dropped because of captured senators refusing to vote on the bill unless it was removed.
I don’t think the “both sides are the same” argument is anything but propaganda
That's because you're not the one getting $50M in eye-gouging political ads between Jon Fetterman and Memet Oz, only to see them agree on practically every issue once the election is over.
The biggest gulfs in opinion tend to be internal party schisms. Mamdani, Eric Adams, and Andrew Cuomo duking it out in an ugly NYC Mayoral primary while the Republicans just heckel from the cheap seats. Or Eric Cantor losing his job as Majority Whip to an even more virulent Anti-tax Christian white nationalist.
It's not that Both Sides Are The Same, it's that each side is a fractal kaleidoscope of particular nuanced views. But the consensus that emerges across the national scene tends to be constrained by what corporate sponsors are willing to fund.
Lobbyists write the legislation. Legislators rationalize why they vote for or against it with their campaign jingoisms.
The chair of the Democratic party just tried to secretly meet with a known fascist and white supremacist, not to mention constantly votes against universal healthcare, or maybe I should mention previous votes supporting warrantless searches. but okay, go ahead and tell me about when I had free healthcare, because I sure as fuck don't recall that happening.
Edit: dont even get me started on Israel. Calling these fuckers left leaning is an insult to pretty much every actually left leaning group in the US.
The chair of the Democratic party just tried to secretly meet with a known fascist and white supremacist,
I'm not sure if this is ignorance or propaganda, but Ken Martin is the chair of the DNC, not Hakeem Jeffries. The neolibs are making as much noise as they can so low info voters continue to think they control the DNC, but in reality they lost that control in 2024.
Yeah he got that wrong, but I think this still highlights the dynamic at play. Regan pushed the horrible cultural narrative around welfare, but then he was followed by Clinton saying he was going to “end welfare as we know it.” Softer language than Regan, but pushing in the same policy direction, enabled by Regan’s earlier propaganda, and in the act of making it bipartisan, he normalized it as a position that we’ve been stuck with ever since.
I may have fumbled that reference, but Bill Clinton managed to make a bipartisan effort to reduce welfare work.
JFC, Bill Clinton signed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act because he wanted to look tough on crime, but Trump is the big bad boogeyman that came out of nowhere.
Cut me some fucking slack and stop looking at Democrats through rose-tinted glasses, for Christ's sake.
Puppy is right, not really a solution, good PR, and not diarrhea forever. And in the comments, you can even begin to guess who would be claiming that they are not a real solution so you should vote against free puppies and vote for diarrhea forever to shake up the system.
You know, so they offer something better next time even though next time everyone's toilet and sewer system is going to be backed up and in need of dire repair by then as well because and also, everyone is suffering from diarrhea forever now so much that everyone would just be happy to not be suffering from diarrhea forever now, forget about the free puppies.
Is it because instead of trying to improve the lives of people in a meaningful way. They think giving everyone a puppy will be the solution?
While not once realising that 350 million puppies is going to require some serious imports, quarantines, vacinations, construction of holding facilities (i guess they could repurpose their concentration camps), employees to oversee the puppies while in quarantine, vets to administer vacines. Janitors and cleaners to maintain the premises.
So... instead of just giving everyone universal healthcare. They'll spend twice as much on puppies. That sure does sound like the US in a nutshell
I never said it was a red v blue thing. Just that neither will give it to you. One will try to give you something else because the want you to think you might get it. While the other will just tell you up front to get lost
I totally get the point. But to be fair, the US has such a high GDP that it could afford all of this. But, it would require taxing the wealthy a bit more.
Or they could have just sat home and not blow up their entire arsenal in Iran. While selling those weapons to EU that is buying them to donate to Ukraine.
That alone would have been enough. Without even increasing taxes on anything
Regrettably this is sold as "The government steals your money to buy immigrants puppies" vs "Your freedom to choose which self-regulating corporation's food you buy--free market in action!"
And more regrettably people believe it against all evidence.
If they want to dismantle a union, start with police unions. But I'm sure that's the one and only union they would support. Tells you something about these assholes. And police.
Exceeeeppppptttt when the union in question is full of members who's job it is to put people in cages like animals, most of the time without need. Also when a side effect of the job of the members is murder of innocent civilians and protesters.
There definitely is management. What about people like NHS staff? Nurses, porters, doctors working in public health, are they also disqualified from union activity?
Yes. All public sector unions. There isn't a true counter party in the public sector, the union is bargaining against the people. This leads to a perverse incentive where "management" essentially agrees to anything as there's no benefit to disagree.
The management is government/parliament. Public sector jobs are much harder to negotiate anything because it tends to come with hard rules for every minute detail.
They are capturing and selling horses off to slaughter, at a severe loss. They spend up to $3,000 to capture wild horses then sell middlemen for $25. Those dudes then sell the houses abroad to slaughter plants for $750.
There’s absolutely no fucking reason to do this. They tried to buy gas chambers for to kill the horses faster.
EDIT: Sorry, I just realize my comment is not related to work reform. I just wanted to point out how much more evil and cruel these people are. They are vile.
I know this is by far the least objectionable thing in that picture, but does anyone find it weird to fly four identical flags right up next to each other like that? Just somehow feels tacky to my mind, like they're so bunched up that not any one individual one of them is able to actually function as a flag. Maybe just me idk
It's even weirder when the president comes out and fondles one. It's even weirder to read some MAGA say that they love him more because he fondles the flag, and no other president ever did that (yeah, I've heard people say that).
You can tell Trump has dementia: in the retirement home my grandpa was in at the end of his life, they also labeled the different rooms for when the residents got confused and lost.
There's a reason that authoritarian revolutions typically have a "kill all the eggheads" phase. That type of arrogance isn't compatible with someone saying, "Hey guys, I've studied this my whole life and what you're saying is incorrect.". Fragile egos can't deal with the idea that they might be wrong about something, so they just hulk smash anything that might cause cognitive dissonance and move on.
I can’t think of anything dumber than labeling intelligence as evil….
Voting a convicted felon sex offender pedophile serial liar insurrectionist gassy orange fatman with a weird yellow comb-over and a bad case of fronto-temporal dementia as president?
Are people really upset at... bad teachers? with everything else going on?? Like I also had a few bad teachers as a kid, but I also had a future with a biosphere that can sustain life. Maybe we should focus on the actually existential one here.
he seems to be confusing it with catholic priests? they shuffle them around for sure, and also any evangelical pastors too. "terrible teachers" usually get booted from the industry quite quickly.
Teacher's Unions aren't perfect and there have been some valid complaints about them, but that's basically every union. Honestly, my biggest complaint is that teachers have unions and they're still not paid enough.
But at any rate, this is typical conservative rhetoric. "We've found (or invented) one thing we can complain about, so rather than having a rational, calm discussion about the state of things and how we can improve that thing, we want to cause the most drama, scare everybody the most, and tear everything down, while promising to replace it with something better, a promise that we'll never, ever, in a million years, deliver on."
they arnt, even in blue areas while thier wages are much higher, the hcol kinda negates it, unless you somehow can make it to 10+years as a teacher you will get close to 100k, usually teachers often supported by thier SOs most of the time.
it should be 100k from the start. they are dealing with admins with red tape bratty children, unruly parents, children that arnt willing to learn,,,etc.
Having a union allows them to represent themselves, it doesn't mean the other parties involved don't have power. It's about balancing things out so nobody is getting taken advantage of. Yeah, police unions are a problem, but it's because the balance of power is out of whack, not because the concept itself is bad. To compare a teachers union to that is laughable, they're not taking advantage of anyone, they're holding on by the skin of their teeth.
former NEA President Reg Weaver commented,
"Students must be protected from sexual predators and abuse, and teachers must be protected from false accusations".
He then refused to be interviewed
The union protected teachers in my schools that had several accusations. I believe it needs reform.
i knew he seemed familiar, he was reported 1-2 years ago, he went back in the closet. it does look he attracts men more than women. seems alot of gay white pornstars are trumpers as of late.(most of them disappeared from the industry after being outed as a magat, or cancelled, or pivoted)
I wonder what happened during their childhood, really do, for all the people in Trump's government and his superrich supporters. There must have been some serious traumatic stuff going on. So much anger, hate, selfishness and lack of empathy.
we know trump himself has been "groomed" by his dad, fred trump,and his father before that. likely many in his cabinet have some sort of pervasions, that trump can use against them. leavitt, married the guy that groomed her, hes like 2.5times her age.
People involved in human development and intellectual pursuits rarely feel well under fascist regimes. That's why so many intellectuals and scientists fled Nazi Germany and why so many are fleeing the United States today.
Yeah you gotta be a special kind of dumb to assume Trump doesn’t try to cheat at every possible chance presented to him. It is in his nature to be a piece of shit.
Also in a union. It's not perfect but beats no union. I love hearing the horror stories that the old timers recall from "before the union" like they're spooky stories.
Obama upgraded the Whitehouse tech, before him it was a complete mess of 70s POTS phones, slow internet, and old even for the time computers. Previous Presidents just didn't have a fucking clue about anything but smiling and talking.
208 replies
I already support unions (in one) and adore teachers because I pretty much worship at the church of education. They have one of the most important jobs in society. It's kinda hard to make me more sympathetic to their plight, but hey, you did it.
If an elementary school teacher starts offing these people, I would not convict
They should ask Matt Bevin how things went when he tried to mess with the Kentucky teachers' unions.
Spoiler: We got Andy Beshear as governor.
(Yes, it's more nuanced than that. He was screwing with more public servants than just the teachers. But the teachers' not-legally-a-strike was highly effective, and I personally knew Republican teachers who actively campaigned against Bevin.)
They’ve done the decades of work to turn people against unions, convincing MAGAts that unions are proto-communist organizations that extort unfair wages though dishonest practices while sitting around not working. They have people looking over at them saying “how come you get paid so much?” Instead of “I should get paid that much too.”
People are dumb. Whatcha gonna do.
They never stop to question how successful long lasting companies that have been unionized for decades are still around
I never understood why they burned witches but now I see how that would be a satisfying conclusion to some events.
Why? They were well-read women, aka "woke women" so they "sent a message" (don't mess with the patriarchy). Also, King James, his Witch General Finders, and the "demonologists" were all men, and they found women an easier target to do bad things too. They argued that "their feminine wiles" misled many men; therefore, they're in cahoots with the dark side.
Are you complaining that it wouldn't be politically correct? What method of tortuous execution better fits with your morals?
same as it's ever been
Those public school teachers have had it too good for too long.
That is a sack of shit in a blue coat. He can fuck right off.
is this real? or just rage bait?
Actually, thank you for asking this; with so much insanity coming from this administration I accepted it as real without question. However, after some searching it's unfortunately a real Facebook post by a real asshole. (hopefully that works, Facebooks interface is such garbage)
I mean, it's from "Team Epstein" so there's more evil, if you look at the JE releases.
Great so teachers have no support, and people wonder why we have a shortage of teachers
It's by design.
Once upon a time, the USA had a strong middle class. Billionaires got taxed heavily, and our public schools were the envy of the world. Well funded and produced a lot of great students.
But educated people are difficult to control and even harder to dupe. The GOP realized that if they can gut public education, the masses will become malleable again. Meanwhile, the children of the rich can continue to go to expensive private institutions for their own education. So the rich stay educated, and the poor's go in the gutter.
Also cutting education now has no effect for about 25 years or so(in their view. Its approximately right but not completely true...) Their short term brainrot is so bad they would abolish education entirely in a heart beat and coast on those miniscule savings for a few decades until the world rips itself apart...
Also, my pet conspiracy is they all know the world is going to devolve into chaos due to global heating and climate destabilization anyways so why should they care about education when its not going to produce anything worthwhile when the chaos hits... from what I'm seeing 2040 is where things get dicey and most things have inflected negative. 2050 is where things break down genuinely. Too many bad things happen at once...
Only problem with that is that a society like that becomes very unsuccessful, lowering the standard of living for everyone, including the rich.
The uber rich in India are doing ok. It’ll probably be like that. A caste based society
Eh, they have to drive on the same shitty roads, be stuck in the same traffic, breathe the same air, and on and on.. sauce: been there, done that.
Are they though? What about the air pollution? The rich have to breathe the same air. For now, anyway.
It should also be noted that they must be malleable beneath the threshold of the GOPs competence. So to effectively manipulate, the GOP needs a population more ignorant than the DNC does. The left can afford smarter ppl because the leadership itself is more competent, it ain't like education isn't being gutted in blue states as well
Fuckfaced cunt
Reminder that the Republican party are traitors to the United States of America who work tirelessly to weaken our nation and harm our populace.
And that makes anyone who still supports them traitors too. Ignorance isn't an excuse.
Smart people don't vote Republican. That is why they are destroying our educational system.
So we might get less or more fake history?
Conservatives hate teachers because teachers don’t need to work when kids aren’t in school for the summer. That’s the only complaint I’ve ever truly heard from them. Meanwhile, those same teachers are up stupid early, on time every fucking day, dealing with over-filled classes of every type of child, and then doing even more labour in the evenings as they aren’t officially given much of any time to create plans or mark work.
Conservatives hate teachers because they educate the masses and an educated populace doesn't vote Republican.
They also do work during the summer, making lesson plans, teaching summer school, working a second job, etc.
But if Republicans made policy decisions based on reality they wouldn't be Republicans.
They’re not detached from reality; they work on behalf of the Epstein class the most aggressively to keep the working class desperate and divided.
They just don’t care about “reality,” they want to inflict maximum pain.
Their pay is insanely low as well, and they can either not get paid for summer, or take their pay even lower per month to cover summer too
There's plenty more that they complain about with teachers. They complain that they are ineffective, promote progressive ideals, target their children's shitty behavior, aren't held accountable, and the whole "those who can't do, teach" bullshit.
I used to be a teacher. I've seen it all, heard it all.
Since COVID some Conservative people I know have become like those animals that can't comprehend things that didn't happen right in front of them.
My kid is a teacher (in Canada so they are paid really well). But its solely on them to develop all the lessons and gather everything needed. They are working to do this after hours and weekends.
In the USA we're indoctrinated in schools. Faje history and other b.s. Im not maga or republican but I also cant side with more bullshit from schools that dont actually teach. Glad you guys up north get it. Teachers matter even if they are doing the work of multiple people. At least you get paid.
Also plenty of blue collar professions that conservatives profess to respect... also work seasonally.
The slow march back into slavery...
That guy beats his wife and kids, I guarantee it.
Probably rapes them too
Narrow shoulders, wide hips, and short pants. Weird choices.
My conservative civics teacher once said that all unions, with the exception of Teacher Unions were obsolete. I wonder how he's feeling right now.
Anyone that doesn't like unions is very stupid, or very rich.
Poor and stupid or rich and stupid.
Unions are the new solution to an old problem. The previous solution was dragging the boss out of his house in the middle of the night.
"All unions are bad except my union" is the much more consistent application of inherently hypocritical conservative values, compared to what they can say to a broad audience through right wing media. Hilarious.
This guy was such a bootlicker, I'm surprised he didn't also exempt Police Unions.
A more concise and universal description of conservative values is: "Fuck you, got mine."
This guy's literally done nothing his entire life besides get paid by right-wing think tanks to undercut public schools
Why do people in the US equate "choice" with destroying other people's protections?
Almost all of it is, or at least originates, from racism, at least with schools.
When public schools allowed racial integration , school choice became a mechanism for racists to pull their kids from mixed schools.
It grew into things like charter schools that are private, often religious, schools that get public funding and maintain segregation.
It's a classic conservative propaganda technique to name their evil plans the opposite of what they actually mean. If it contains the word "freedom" it's about tyranny. If it says "protect" it means persecution, and if it says "children" just mentally append "fuck" in front of it.
We need to stop saying right vs left framing. It’s the wealthy class propaganda technique. Poor people that are “conservative” are in most cases just tricked by these parasitic ghouls that spend money to lie to people to work against their own self interests.
The average maga voter isn't the mind behind the propaganda they parrot.
This is exactly the point.
They live in a controlled information environment; much like the Russian people who think Ukraine is full to the brim with Nazis.
They have been force fed hate and bigotry for decades at this point. They are not blameless, but also they don't deserve all the hate that is projected at them.
As pointed out, the education system is gutted, thus they are not curious and checking their biases; it is normalized for them to be hateful toward "others"; their whole world is small and full of fear.
I pity them their small pathetic lives, and dislike them for their shitty views. The only thing I hate is that the stupid bigotry seems to be spreading around the world.
I mean, I agree with you on all this, but I have a very hard time seeing how this is relevant to my comment. The topic was conservative propaganda techniques, not hating conservative voters. I despise them, but hate is too strong a word for me to feel for any person.
Because of all this competition we have in the market! With many schools near your home, they compete for your conforming child's business. What with the labor shortage, we have all these employers with that good health insurance competing for our time. And of course, small farmers are doing great and supply our many competing food markets.
Because they are idiots and evil politicians and news media spin it that way.
It’s the I can afford it so screw you, individual short term thinking.
It assumes they’ll never need help themselves especially as they get older.
If there was any justice these people will end up in jail for long long time
yeah good luck with that... there must be a system reset in order for this to happen.
We're assembling a team to dismantle Gaza! Are you in? At the White House
He has that 'low T' stance
US politics as seem by Europeans:
Not just Europeans. Pretty much every other country in the world with a functioning government.
I’m sure Europeans everywhere are offended at you referring to their colonies like that.
Maybe even alien civilizations look down with disgust!
Both pictures should be the guy on the shitter, but label the blue side "Diarrhea Forever Apologists".
Forever? How dare you! We just need diarrhea for this one most important election of our lifetimes. I refuse to acknowledge anything beyond a single iteration.
except blue is more like "we're strongly opposed to diarrhea forever, but this undercooked fish should be good in the fridge for another few days right?"
Is that a “both sides” argument?
No, it’s a “ratchet effect” argument. Dems are opposed to fascism in principle, but have shown no interest in stopping the root causes that lead to it.
As a European, to me it looks like blue is a free puppy, like the picture.
American here. The blue option is indeed puppies for everyone. But you're getting the rest wrong because you live in a country with an actual functioning government. Nothing in the picture said the puppies were free. The puppies are shipped in large Priority Mail flat rate boxes for $34. To receive a puppy, you must first submit Form HUD-9473126-K9B with an attached $200 money order. Processing time is 6-9 weeks upon receipt, and delivery is 2-3 weeks. The government is not responsible for the condition of how the puppy arrives. If your puppy gets damaged, additional forms and fees apply to request a replacement.
But I guess it's at least not diarrhea forever.
lol, yeah.
I'm only saying what it looks like from afar. I bet it's garbage up close, still. 😅
As a European, can you explain why you also keep voting in the diarrhea candidates?
You know when the powerful countries infiltrate 3rd world countries and trigger overthrowing the government?
This is what currently is happening in US and Europe.
Russia is the main one driving it. They infiltrate, bribe politicians, influence public opinion via social media. If they win they start looting the country for themselves, but also using the funding to help sister parties in other countries to do the same.
This is why they all seem to have very similar views, that also "magically" align with what Kremlin views.
This is very cheap campaign for Russia to destroy the Western world, kill EU and divide Europe.
Every politician and influencer involved in this movement should be tried as traitors that they are.
If that's what is happening in the US and Europe, what just happened in Columbia?
Religion.
Because we Europeans are almost as fucked in the head as you Americans.
::: spoiler Spoiler If I had to take a guess what the root cause is, I'd say the problem lies in the difference between the culturally transported image of reality (propaganda, advertisement, algorithmic bubbles etc) and the longing for a life according to human nature (community, good food, sense of belonging and usefulness, spiritual fulfillment etc) :::
I don't, so I can't explain why other people do it.
If I had to guess?
Fear.
I still think free undercooked trout is more accurate
Agree to disagree.
Then you need to look closer. They're mostly Republicans but blue.
Nah, I don't think the "both sides are the same" argument is anything but propaganda at this point when Obama brought in free healthcare and Trump brought in the Gestapo.
Saying this as a European.
lol no. If anything Obamacare is a textbook example of what I meant - he entered office with a Democrat majority in both Houses and the Supreme Court and a huge public mandate to get it done, and still ended up abandoning all his stated plans for a system where big business interests got their entrenched positions solidified by law.
It would be wrong to call Obama a fascist, but he did the opposite of nothing to dismantle the oligarchy that lead to where we are now.
Well that didn't happen. He brought us a Republican healthcare plan that cemented private insurance into our system and fined people who didn't have any. The public option got dropped because of captured senators refusing to vote on the bill unless it was removed.
That's because you're not the one getting $50M in eye-gouging political ads between Jon Fetterman and Memet Oz, only to see them agree on practically every issue once the election is over.
The biggest gulfs in opinion tend to be internal party schisms. Mamdani, Eric Adams, and Andrew Cuomo duking it out in an ugly NYC Mayoral primary while the Republicans just heckel from the cheap seats. Or Eric Cantor losing his job as Majority Whip to an even more virulent Anti-tax Christian white nationalist.
It's not that Both Sides Are The Same, it's that each side is a fractal kaleidoscope of particular nuanced views. But the consensus that emerges across the national scene tends to be constrained by what corporate sponsors are willing to fund.
Lobbyists write the legislation. Legislators rationalize why they vote for or against it with their campaign jingoisms.
Both sides are pretty bad, but one is significantly worse than the other
The chair of the Democratic party just tried to secretly meet with a known fascist and white supremacist, not to mention constantly votes against universal healthcare, or maybe I should mention previous votes supporting warrantless searches. but okay, go ahead and tell me about when I had free healthcare, because I sure as fuck don't recall that happening.
Edit: dont even get me started on Israel. Calling these fuckers left leaning is an insult to pretty much every actually left leaning group in the US.
I'm not sure if this is ignorance or propaganda, but Ken Martin is the chair of the DNC, not Hakeem Jeffries. The neolibs are making as much noise as they can so low info voters continue to think they control the DNC, but in reality they lost that control in 2024.
The Obama administration also put children in wire fence cages.
Trump is the worst because his predecessors were bad.
And we aren't even talking about foreign policy, we're talking about what has been going on on American soil.
There's is a thread that goes from Bill Clinton
creatingusing the meme of the welfare queen to DOGE.That was famously Ronald Reagan. Not sure why anyone would pay attention to anything else you say after fucking that up that bad.
Yeah he got that wrong, but I think this still highlights the dynamic at play. Regan pushed the horrible cultural narrative around welfare, but then he was followed by Clinton saying he was going to “end welfare as we know it.” Softer language than Regan, but pushing in the same policy direction, enabled by Regan’s earlier propaganda, and in the act of making it bipartisan, he normalized it as a position that we’ve been stuck with ever since.
I may have fumbled that reference, but Bill Clinton managed to make a bipartisan effort to reduce welfare work.
JFC, Bill Clinton signed the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act because he wanted to look tough on crime, but Trump is the big bad boogeyman that came out of nowhere.
Cut me some fucking slack and stop looking at Democrats through rose-tinted glasses, for Christ's sake.
Right, but we are seeing it from over here, so...
Puppy is right, not really a solution, good PR, and not diarrhea forever. And in the comments, you can even begin to guess who would be claiming that they are not a real solution so you should vote against free puppies and vote for diarrhea forever to shake up the system.
You know, so they offer something better next time even though next time everyone's toilet and sewer system is going to be backed up and in need of dire repair by then as well because and also, everyone is suffering from diarrhea forever now so much that everyone would just be happy to not be suffering from diarrhea forever now, forget about the free puppies.
Is it because instead of trying to improve the lives of people in a meaningful way. They think giving everyone a puppy will be the solution?
While not once realising that 350 million puppies is going to require some serious imports, quarantines, vacinations, construction of holding facilities (i guess they could repurpose their concentration camps), employees to oversee the puppies while in quarantine, vets to administer vacines. Janitors and cleaners to maintain the premises.
So... instead of just giving everyone universal healthcare. They'll spend twice as much on puppies. That sure does sound like the US in a nutshell
70% of Americans support universal healthcare
This is not a Red vs Blue issue.
This is a class warfare issue
https://resisth8.com/gov-politics/universal-healthcare-for-all/
I never said it was a red v blue thing. Just that neither will give it to you. One will try to give you something else because the want you to think you might get it. While the other will just tell you up front to get lost
I totally get the point. But to be fair, the US has such a high GDP that it could afford all of this. But, it would require taxing the wealthy a bit more.
Or they could have just sat home and not blow up their entire arsenal in Iran. While selling those weapons to EU that is buying them to donate to Ukraine.
That alone would have been enough. Without even increasing taxes on anything
Those are all really good ideas. And on top of that I'd also suggest taxing the wealthy a bit more.
And on top of that I'd suggest taxing corporations. Instead of doing the opposite, giving them tax exemptions
Regrettably this is sold as "The government steals your money to buy immigrants puppies" vs "Your freedom to choose which self-regulating corporation's food you buy--free market in action!"
And more regrettably people believe it against all evidence.
us outsourced thier diarrhea from a farm in the south of the us.
A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, is incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.
They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.
And broke.
I bet his google search history is amazing.
"Why techer onion are bad"
That's giving him a lot of credit that he's a free thinker who does his own web searches.
If they want to dismantle a union, start with police unions. But I'm sure that's the one and only union they would support. Tells you something about these assholes. And police.
Counterpoint: Unions who break up strikes aren’t unions
Police aren't working class, I don't make the rules
True. They're the ruling class' private army. They don't count.
except police unions arent true unions, just a mafia/gang that can strongarm a city to give it what it wants for protection.
that's what an ideal union is
Exceeeeppppptttt when the union in question is full of members who's job it is to put people in cages like animals, most of the time without need. Also when a side effect of the job of the members is murder of innocent civilians and protesters.
All public sector unions should be disbanded.
I work in the public sector working in health and fitness. Should my union be dismantled?
Yes if you are a public sector employee. There's not an owner or management for you to negotiate against
There definitely is management. What about people like NHS staff? Nurses, porters, doctors working in public health, are they also disqualified from union activity?
Yes. All public sector unions. There isn't a true counter party in the public sector, the union is bargaining against the people. This leads to a perverse incentive where "management" essentially agrees to anything as there's no benefit to disagree.
The management is government/parliament. Public sector jobs are much harder to negotiate anything because it tends to come with hard rules for every minute detail.
they need more stupid voters
I can top that.
They are capturing and selling horses off to slaughter, at a severe loss. They spend up to $3,000 to capture wild horses then sell middlemen for $25. Those dudes then sell the houses abroad to slaughter plants for $750.
There’s absolutely no fucking reason to do this. They tried to buy gas chambers for to kill the horses faster.
https://www.rawstory.com/wild-horses/
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/20/us/trump-wild-horses-legal-loophole-slaughter.html
EDIT: Sorry, I just realize my comment is not related to work reform. I just wanted to point out how much more evil and cruel these people are. They are vile.
It makes sense when you realise it's practice.
I assume the reason is to siphon more money
I know this is by far the least objectionable thing in that picture, but does anyone find it weird to fly four identical flags right up next to each other like that? Just somehow feels tacky to my mind, like they're so bunched up that not any one individual one of them is able to actually function as a flag. Maybe just me idk
I think it's weird to have omnipresent flags full stop.
I agree with your general sentiment, but major government buildings surely get a pass to fly one, if they do it in a tasteful manner.
It's even weirder when the president comes out and fondles one. It's even weirder to read some MAGA say that they love him more because he fondles the flag, and no other president ever did that (yeah, I've heard people say that).
Yeah, two of them should be Israeli flags.
North Korea, Russia and Israel.
How dare you leave out the Bone Saw Kingdom?
and the other 2 krasnovs handler's flag.
Woo wee, that one hit good. Well played. Didn't expect that one. 😂
It is over compensation. When you dismantle a whole country with your policies you try harder to convince people that you are a patriot.
You can tell Trump has dementia: in the retirement home my grandpa was in at the end of his life, they also labeled the different rooms for when the residents got confused and lost.
Trump shouldn't work in the Oval Office, he should be in the Offal Orifice.
There are actually experts who openly make this claim as well. I'll believe it.
Why doesn't he just do it himself?
Asking people to join his team seems like he's trying to organize a union.
This looks like the type of stupid BS AI stuff about the left you see floating around certain circles on Facebook, but I bet it's not.
Why would you admit to that?
Because Republicans hate education. Most of the maga crowd will cheer this as a way to get back at the "wokes", or "intellectual elites".
There's a reason that authoritarian revolutions typically have a "kill all the eggheads" phase. That type of arrogance isn't compatible with someone saying, "Hey guys, I've studied this my whole life and what you're saying is incorrect.". Fragile egos can't deal with the idea that they might be wrong about something, so they just hulk smash anything that might cause cognitive dissonance and move on.
I can't think of anything dumber than labeling intelligence as evil....
So of course Republicans do that
Voting a convicted felon sex offender pedophile serial liar insurrectionist gassy orange fatman with a weird yellow comb-over and a bad case of fronto-temporal dementia as president?
biggest threats to conservatives are educators, professors, teachers,,,etc.
I'm not sleeping or functionally retarded. I am the boogeyman
My dad is maga. The reason he would say is the teachers union protects bad teachers and just shuffles them around.
Don’t agree with it but that’s the talking point.
But that's what cops do
And priests
Honestly, if someone finds the original post and "inspect element" to change this to police, it might be enough to get a reaction out of maga.
Are people really upset at... bad teachers? with everything else going on?? Like I also had a few bad teachers as a kid, but I also had a future with a biosphere that can sustain life. Maybe we should focus on the actually existential one here.
No maga is focused on things that really matter instead, like the 5 or 6 trans women in sports
Well, you can't choose your parents...
he seems to be confusing it with catholic priests? they shuffle them around for sure, and also any evangelical pastors too. "terrible teachers" usually get booted from the industry quite quickly.
I think he's confused them with police unions.
Where "bad teacher" is "teacher who taught the kids critical thinking and science so they started asking uncomfortable questions".
"They made me parent! They made me... (sobs) think"
Teacher's Unions aren't perfect and there have been some valid complaints about them, but that's basically every union. Honestly, my biggest complaint is that teachers have unions and they're still not paid enough.
But at any rate, this is typical conservative rhetoric. "We've found (or invented) one thing we can complain about, so rather than having a rational, calm discussion about the state of things and how we can improve that thing, we want to cause the most drama, scare everybody the most, and tear everything down, while promising to replace it with something better, a promise that we'll never, ever, in a million years, deliver on."
they arnt, even in blue areas while thier wages are much higher, the hcol kinda negates it, unless you somehow can make it to 10+years as a teacher you will get close to 100k, usually teachers often supported by thier SOs most of the time.
it should be 100k from the start. they are dealing with admins with red tape bratty children, unruly parents, children that arnt willing to learn,,,etc.
Soon it will be illegal to teach the masses to read, write, add, subtract, multiply and divide.
hey guys, we're assembling a team to hunt down and scalp Nazis.
you in?
Damn good deal
Walk the walk.
Similar to beheading flock cameras, I hope this also goes viral.
Fascism bad, but the union is not protecting kids.
https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/04/06/582831662/schools-are-supposed-to-have-pass-the-trash-policies-the-dept-of-ed-isn-t-tracki
The issue is when yoh give power to police or teachers, you remove power from civilians or students.
Not everything that is broken should be dismantled.
Having a union allows them to represent themselves, it doesn't mean the other parties involved don't have power. It's about balancing things out so nobody is getting taken advantage of. Yeah, police unions are a problem, but it's because the balance of power is out of whack, not because the concept itself is bad. To compare a teachers union to that is laughable, they're not taking advantage of anyone, they're holding on by the skin of their teeth.
The only union mentioned in the article supported the law making it harder for pedo teachers to get new teaching jobs though?
I should have provided more, but these unions tend to resist measures to improve educator quality and protect bad teachers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Education_Association#Criticism
The union protected teachers in my schools that had several accusations. I believe it needs reform.
Not their job
If unions are bad and we need to shut them down then let's start with the armed ones: Police Unions.
Who is the one dweeb who showed up for this photo op?
He used to do gay porn (I'm not kidding)
i knew he seemed familiar, he was reported 1-2 years ago, he went back in the closet. it does look he attracts men more than women. seems alot of gay white pornstars are trumpers as of late.(most of them disappeared from the industry after being outed as a magat, or cancelled, or pivoted)
Seems to be some right wing wacko associated with ground the heritage foundation. The usual suspect.
he used to be a "gay" pornstar.
Get in loser, we are assembling a team to crush every orphan in America!
I wonder what happened during their childhood, really do, for all the people in Trump's government and his superrich supporters. There must have been some serious traumatic stuff going on. So much anger, hate, selfishness and lack of empathy.
The corruption of money and power, that's all it takes. Almost everyone would fall in the same trap, given the exposure.
Just look at The Third Wave. I hope people haven't forgotten about, or dismissed The Third Wave Experiment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Third_Wave_(experiment)
Lead exposure.
Religious indoctrination.
Lack of education.
All of these people have advanced degrees.
The dogged instance that you can't make it out of a Yale MBA program without becoming a progressive Democrat I'd refuted with every graduating class
Sometimes they just suck. I assume it's nature at that point.
we know trump himself has been "groomed" by his dad, fred trump,and his father before that. likely many in his cabinet have some sort of pervasions, that trump can use against them. leavitt, married the guy that groomed her, hes like 2.5times her age.
I don't know about "most evil". Do you realize how hard the competition is?
Just standing there like an insectoid in a human suit.
he used to a gay pornstar, so yes.
Porn industry is problematic as fuck, but that work is 1000% more respectable than what he's trying at now.
Next the ones who think we are on their side. We will do firefighters first and cops last of course.
The brownshirts are always one of the first waves to the grave.
Sounds like every teacher isn’t feeling so well for the rest of the week.
People involved in human development and intellectual pursuits rarely feel well under fascist regimes. That's why so many intellectuals and scientists fled Nazi Germany and why so many are fleeing the United States today.
That's what you can do when you can face no repercussions, love it or hate it the majority of voters have voted for this.
Not if it was rigged. Which it was.
Yeah you gotta be a special kind of dumb to assume Trump doesn’t try to cheat at every possible chance presented to him. It is in his nature to be a piece of shit.
I'm in!
...a teacher's union.
(I'm not, just said it for artistic effect. I'm in a different union tho, and it's great.)
Also in a union. It's not perfect but beats no union. I love hearing the horror stories that the old timers recall from "before the union" like they're spooky stories.
Looking at the thread, you can see who the majority of Twitter users are nowadays.
What a shithole social media service.
This dude has a highly slappable face.
Also, what is it with the fascists' fashion of wearing too-tight suits? Don't they realize how ridiculous it makes them look?
Happy cake day!
teachers are intellectuals, that teach future intellectuals, it is a threat to any fascist government. what a shit eating grin on a stupid person.
YMMV.
You'd think they'd have better cable management at the White House by now
Obama upgraded the Whitehouse tech, before him it was a complete mess of 70s POTS phones, slow internet, and old even for the time computers. Previous Presidents just didn't have a fucking clue about anything but smiling and talking.
I've seen worse.
Looks at Israel
Isn't that an older post?
And he's taking a picture of himself in front of The Oral Office, to top it off
If I hated that country I would be lighting fireworks right now.