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lemmy.ml

I mean you basically left the left the moment you had a stroke.

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rockSlayerreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

He was never with the left. He succeeded where Platner failed: using the desperation for left wing politics to advance right wing causes

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Rooskie91reply
discuss.online

He only ever appeared left because he hired a bunch of young people to run his campaign.

As soon as he was elected he stopped appearing to be progressive because he either fired his election staff or they quit when they realized who he really was.

Before he was a senator he was a mayor of a small town in the middle of PA and held a black man at gunpoint because the man was going for a run in the town he was mayor of.

He's always been a piece of shit.

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No need to rewrite history to fit the current narrative: as mayor, he was rather left leaning, even though he used questionable tactics. The problem is when you go to Washington, a lot more money is involved. He's just easy to corrupt.

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lemmy.ml

The chances of Dems adopting such a stance are approximately 0. All Fetterman is doing here is proudly proclaiming who he works for.

It’s a shame PA doesn’t allow recall elections for elected officials, and I sincerely hope Pennsylvanians tell Fett to fuck off to Tel Aviv in the ‘28 election.

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lemmy.world

this is why there needs to be a recall mechanism for congress and senators. Dude ran as a Democrat and is now saying "haha, Ima go be a republican now" and all the people who voted for him can do nothing for 6 fucking years.

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Kyrrrrreply
mander.xyz

Our representatives should be afraid when they don't represent us. Organize and give public servants reasons to resign when they betray their electorate. And if they don't like that, they can make a law that allows for recalls. Not sure if there are many other ways to get that law passed

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Hanrahanreply
slrpnk.net

i mean, you can just vote them out if they betray you, It's what elections are for...One can assume people (majority of voters) are happy with the likes of John, Mitch etal because people keep reelecting them

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Did you not read the comment above this one? The premise and working knowledge of everyone reading this is, specifically, the opposite of what you just wrote.

Let’s see. 2023… carry the one… it seems that would be… ah yes. 2028.

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lemmy.world

Man. Brain damage did a number of him. Gabby Gifford was shot in the head and didn't turn conservative

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lemmy.world

I've seen comments from people in his constituency that said the stroke didnt change shit, that he's always been a piece of shit, even before he was in public office.

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Because he was already a shitbags before his stroke. The stroke just made it harder for him to hide his power level.

Fetterman was just a rich kid who's daddy's money has backed his entire career. His dad is the owner and CEO of an insurance company and is a long time big Republican donor. Fettermans entire career has been faking blue collar credentials while being an asshole contrarian.

When he was mayor he raised prices for locals by turning his town into a vacation town for his rich friends. He also held a random black jogger at gun point because he suspected him of doing a crime. His constituents and coworkers hated him.

As Lt governor he barely showed up to work and missed one third of the mandatory state Senate sessions he was supposed to oversee. The guy has always been a lazy asshole, the stroke just made it come to the surface.

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The only way the Democratic party can survive is by listening to its voters, and the voters say no to supporting zionism. Giffords is a zionist, as is her Husband Mark Kelly, no better than shitbag Fetterman. In my book they are each conservatives pretending to be dems.

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Yeah I wonder if this has anything at all to do with the half million in bribes they gave him

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Man, fuck Israel*.

*the current Israeli government and those who support it.

**I’m sure there are people who live in Israel who are very nice.

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NewDarkreply
lemmy.today

If polling is anything to go by, the vast majority are rabid fascists. But you are technically correct, there is a minority.

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greybeardreply
feddit.online

You always have to ask who controls the polls, and how afraid are people to tell the truth. We've seen it here in the states. Polling orgs have stopped, changed metrics, or done selective polling when they are controlled by the fascists. Even small things like question verbiage can change a decisive "we hate this guy" into a "opinions are mixed".

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Haaretz poll from a year ago shows 82% of Israelis are in favor of ethnically cleansing Gaza. And check out this verbiage:

Nearly half (47 percent) of respondents agreed that "when conquering an enemy city, the Israel Defense Forces should act as the Israelites did in Jericho under Joshua's command – killing all its inhabitants."

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There's a client at my job who is for the most part pretty nice. however his two sons and daughter are in the Israeli military and have volunteered specifically to be infantry and he goes on about it all the time.

It's really the most morally conflicted I've ever been at work.

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So he will sell out his own countrymen for loyalty another country? What happened to when you could be hanged for being a traitor?

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i don't know if theres enough rope in the country to hang the traitors, at this point.

Doesnt mean we shouldnt give it the ol' college try.

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"Every life is sacred (especially criminals and villains above all others)."

  • the actual Western Justice System.
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Hey! My people are Wal-mart people! (But a slightly better class than those other Wal-mart people though. Ugh.). /s

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He's functionally a Republican anyway. Why spend Dem party campaign mpney on him?

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Thought you left already? Fuck outta here, supermutant looking ass.

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krisevolreply
lemmus.org

He was praised by Democrats on reddit when he was running. They quickly turned on him.

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lemmy.world

cause he made a grand show of doing and saying all the right things..Until he got elected. Just like every other republican thats run as a democrat to steal votes and power away. Remember Sinema?

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I really want Teddit to be Ted talks exclusively by Reddit users 😉

The problem main feature of Reddit is there’s so many people you can always find some dark corner where people have an opinion-orgy that agrees with any given ideological viewpoint.

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They turned on him?

I knew as soon as I recognized your name that what you wrote was going to be bullshit propaganda. It's like 90% of what you do here.

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Yeah, they suck too

Fetterman can suck an exhaust pipe though if he wants to make the world a better place

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He's been tarnishing the Democrat brand since he arrived.

This MAGA hack needs to be kicked out yesterday and let him caucus with the lunatic right which he loves so much.

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lemmy.zip

So his threat is basically that he'll likely ruin his chances of holding office ever again if the party doesn't do what he wants? What a weird flex.

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He’s currently polling at ~19% approval among Pennsylvania democrats, but ~80% with republicans. So if he sticks with democrat party, he has basically no chance of getting reelected. But republicans tend to do a little better in Pennsylvania (or at least, they used to, but Donny’s current term may have changed that,) so he could have a shot at winning reelection if he switches to Republican. Especially since Republicans love “I used to be a Democrat then I got some common sense” types of stories. He could ham it up for republican voters, and would likely do pretty well if he could convince them he has truly switched sides.

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reddthat.com

There's no way he ever gets reelected. The best he can hope for is lucrative speaking fees after 2028.

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Conservatives might use him to run as one of them, as a "used to be", they eat this shit up.

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lemmy.world

Why are Israel issues more relevant than domestic issues affecting millions of Americans?

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to add to this;

The Israel lobby (AIPAC) is funneling Billions of American Tax funds (and European probably as well) to Zionist Conquest Doctrine. These are funds that were/are already being mismanaged through political grifts and corruption, so the fact that it's going toward a repugnant and quite frankly frivolous war of aggression, that is not only threatening to bankrupt not just America but collapse the entire world economic order, I feel it might be a bit of a solid stance to be in opposition to shitheads that support Israel's actions right now.

"Hot take," I know.

"BuT iRaN mIgHt GeT nUuUuUuUkEs!1!!!1!!!!"

At his point I say we should just GIVE them Nukes. FFS, Quit trying to invade Persia!!

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It doesn't have to become anti-Israel, just anti-genocide. Would that be a deal-breaker for him? (I wouldn't nind seeing him replaced anyway.)

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"Man who is leaving the party anyway tries to get extra concessions on his way out." FTFY

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Who cares what this assbag will do. We know he had a incident (a stroke) where he finally realized he was gonna die one day. Most of us become more human when we face a possibility of death. He had one and became less human.

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How would that change anything?

Also, interesting way of saying that you are an agent of another country

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lemmy.world

He lied to win the election. Fuck him and cutoff his socialized healthcare.

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You know what Fetter reminds me of?

One of those con artists white men from a up north area.

Like I have an example.

I had this friend back in high-school. His dad's name was Gerald. He was a 6 ft 5 350lbs guy who was a con man. He wore different kinds of beret hats and had thin glasses with a extended goatee. His words were slick and his tongue was quick. He drove a decommissioned Lincoln under cover police cruiser and never stayed at one job.

He was the type to steal 10g from laundry vending machines and word in a way that his son did some of the time for him.

This man conned his son outta $1,000 by saying it was for presents for his brother only to find out that he and his wife spent it on crack.

Fettermen reminds me of that man if he had gotten into politics. A con artists white man whose a piece of shit but acts like he's the salt of the earth.

Cunt.

Also Gerald was from Philly.

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He lies and says he’s another Dem
Don’t vote for Fetterman
He simps for MAGA, he schemes with Reps
Don’t vote for Fetterman
Don’t vote for Fetterman
Don’t vote for Fetterman

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Crimes against humanity have roots deep in the American culture. If support for genocide stops, then that's it. I'll leave.

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I mean the party has really already left him. No sane person who calls themselves a member of the Democratic party would consider him viable.

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Get the fuck out you shit head. Please PA do something about this turd!!!!

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Senator John Fetterman of the State of Israel demands recognition.

The fact senior US statesmen continue to offer loyalty to a different sovereign state makes you a laughingstock.

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I mean the brain damage is very severe with John, he's become a Republican

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Who cares, he votes for the Republican talking points most of the time anyway. Grow a spine already and make it official.

What he wants is the party to cross the made up line he has drawn in the sand so he can switch affiliation “guilt free” and be able to say “ look they made me do it” when pressed about it.

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Who cares, he votes for the Republican talking points most of the time anyway. Grow a spine already and make it official.

but then he couldnt sabotage the democrats from the inside.

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If he has another stroke, he'll probably start murdering Palestinians personally and cut out the middle man.

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Fucking piece of shit. Just leave anyway. Literally ZERO Democrats will give a shit about John Fetterman.

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communick.news

Remind me.
He did have a TBI or something, after being elected, that completely changed his personality and views on things, right?

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Stevereply
communick.news

That's what I thought.
So what's with all the vitriol towards someone who's literally brain damaged? It seems really hard to blame him.

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lemmy.world

I wouldnt be mean to him if he stepped down from power, but hes holding onto power despite his incapacity, despite his total change of priority and alliances from what he told his electors

He is harming and misrepresenting his state and constituents

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Stevereply
communick.news

But isn't his refusal to step down just another symptom?

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Yes, the whole situation is quite sad. There have been whistleblowers from his office who have shared how bad he has gotten, and there have been multiple police incidents now from his dangerous driving. I think he finally alienated everyone who genuinely cared about him or believed in him before the stroke, the only people left around him are the ones exploiting his diminished capacity for their own ends. I expect him to kill himself in a car crash honestly, he is notorious for driving like a total maniac since the stroke. I guess he enjoys driving but now that he has poor impulse control and other issues from the brain damage he is a very dangerous driver yet refuses to stop even though he could be driven anywhere he wants.

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Overkrillreply
lemmy.blahaj.zone

there are a lot of ways that strokes can permanently change your life, including physical and mental deficits, but suddenly accepting hundreds of thousands of dollars to aid and abet a genocide is simply not a stroke symptom.

also if we're gonna get all misty eyed over this poor little politician who had a stroke, wheres the compassion for all the men women and children all over the middle east who have received permanent brain damage as a direct result of legislation that this man- who is alert and fucking oriented, knows exactly who and where he is and what he is doing- voted for?

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Stevereply
communick.news

wheres the compassion for all the men women and children all

Same place.
Are you saying I can't have empathy for multiple people?
Or that you can't?

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the man you are expressing concern for has personally aided and abetted the killing of thousands of civilians. you aren't acknowledging his vile misdeeds, only telling the people who understand this and are justifiably upset with him to give him a pass on all these murders because he had a stroke.

grievous loss of ability seems to matter a lot more for you when it happens to a rich white senator.

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Jhexreply
lemmy.world

If i'm your driver, I have a stroke and immediatelly star driving erratically, in the opposite direction you are going, refuse to stop and reply to anything you say with "fuck off", would you still hold the same opinion?

people voted for Dr. Jekyll but got Mr. Hyde, the stroke is not his fault but staying on and shitting on the people that voted for him is entirely his fault and deserves all the nasty stuff people surely put in his food

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Stevereply
communick.news

Yes. It's a problem to deal with for sure. But hating on someone who's disabled for their disability doesn't make sense. It's not his fault he can't understand what he's doing.

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Jhexreply
lemmy.world

if he is disabled then he should not be in office, full stop

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Agreed. As soon as the extent of his injury was known, he should have been removed as unfit, and a new special election should have begun.

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Another piece of shit asshole apologist, it doesn't make the world any better to give them a pass because you feel bad about it being a happenstance.

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Zaktorreply
sopuli.xyz

Old him is dead. New him sucks ass.

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communick.news

That's not an unreasonable way look at it.
It would be nice if it were really that simple.

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You're asking for sympathy from the man who's gone to be applied to the harmful man that's here. Brain damage isn't like a regular injury. It can change the core of your personality. That's sad, but the person we should be sad for is his prior self and his loved ones.

This new guy is a few years old and a huge asshole to people who actually deserve sympathy. Basically everyone close to him other than his wife has left. And she has reportedly been fighting with him on his rightward turn.

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Fetterman’s approval ratings in Pennsylvania have fallen to a dismal 19% among Democrats, according to a Quinnipiac poll released Wednesday. That would make it extremely difficult for him to win a Democratic primary if he opts to run for re-election in 2028. His approval rating among Republicans was 77% in the poll, although it’s far from clear whether they would vote for him.

He's gonna have to switch parties if he's planning to be re-elected.

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He should leave the planet entirely. By that I mean death. He should die. In terror and pain. Like the average Palestinian child.

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Fucking dishonorable Klingon from the jump; can’t believe no one else noticed.

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Lol like anyone thinks he's a Democrat.

This fucking pile of shit needs to go Pennsylvania.

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Being pro-Israeli is the one common element that can finally bring the dems and repubs together again. /s

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lemmy.world

For all the desire to say, "good riddance to bad rubbish", this does create an electoral problem for Dems in the Senate. And I can't help but wonder if the GOP found something to buy him off with.

If the Dems are going to have any shot at taking control of the Senate this cycle and having some power to check the worst excesses of Trump, they need every seat they can get. Fetterman going officially Nazi means the Dems are going to have to win all the close races and even some not so close ones. It would be hilarious to see Texas go blue. But, as poor a candidate as Paxton is. And even with Talarico polling a slight lead, my money is on Texas being a disappointment for Dems again.

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And I can't help but wonder if the GOP found something to buy him off with.

AIPAC bought him off first, and now Trump is offering to fund his entire reelection campaign if he decides to switch parties. So, yeah.

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Fetterman’s approval ratings in Pennsylvania have fallen to a dismal 19% among Democrats, according to a Quinnipiac poll released Wednesday. That would make it extremely difficult for him to win a Democratic primary if he opts to run for re-election in 2028. His approval rating among Republicans was 77% in the poll, although it’s far from clear whether they would vote for him.

Lol yeah, he has been a DINO for a long time. He co-opted the democrat party to get elected, but never intended to follow party lines. He has pretty consistently voted with Republicans on key issues.

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It’s debatable whether the stroke caused him to swing conservative, or if he was always a lying asshole. Not that there’s a difference.

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discuss.online

A Neanderthal brain to match his face. The fucks going going on in Pennsylvania that you had to choose him over Dr fucking Oz?

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Yeah I realize that the way I formed that seemed like I was a proponent of Mr Oz, but I would rewrite to something more like "why was it between those two unqualified turds anyways?"

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Dr. Oz is also nuts so it was kind of cooked regardless of what happened past the primaries

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Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

...is what I'd say if this guy hadn't already switched parties the moment he took office. He is a traitor who will be remembered poorly, before not being remembered at all.

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What's he still doing there anyway? Even by middle of the road Democrat standards, he's pretty shit.

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Mr. Fetterman if someone campaigns on throwing your ass in prison you can bet I'll be supporting them. Get fucked.

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I remember getting downvoted to hell when I used to say “this guy just wears hoodies and shorts and makes a big deal out of acting like a regular Joe, but he’s a silver spoon nepo baby who’s playing you all”

I don’t feel great that I was right, but I saw his bullshit from miles away, it’s the same as when a political takes off his tie and rolls up his sleeves to pretend he’s one of us.

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GOOD.

You shouldn't be a politician at all for how clearly brain damaged and pro-genocide you are.

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He's an entryist he left the democrats before he joined the democrats

He was never a democrat, he is an entryist

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Hey, since you're going outside, can you take the trash (other D.I.N.O.s) out with you? MKThXBai!

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I’m honestly surprised there is a bar. Just thought he’d wake up one day and declare it like Michael Scott.

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"And lo the lord did smote him where he doth splitteth him before with the same door Fetterman used for his leaving. And thus it came to pass that all said their farewells to Felicia."

From the book of will-not-be-missed-euronomy. Ch23v14-15

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lemmy.ml

uniparty member threatens to leave one side of the uniparty and walk to the other, where nothing changes

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