Building an Open-Source Robot Vacuum — Meet OOMWOO
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You can tell it's a genuine high-quality open-source project because the name sucks
I propose renaming it to SUCKS cos that's what vacuums do.
OpenSuck™
That's good.
I was thinking we could come up with an acronym resulting in suck
Sucky Unsupervised Cleaning Knickknack
https://youtu.be/Ec5f6SrGlzU?is=HGIPPRdTSUJnQUXL
There was an attempt.
Now we need to invent a recursive acronym for this name and it would be perfect
"Open OOMWOO Might Win Over Obstructions"
referring to the fact that these things often end up crashing into everything
But muh rotational-symmetry.
Robot vacuum designers are limited to using only the "o" vowel. That's just the way it is.
It's like carcinization, all robot vacuum names eventually become "voov"
Can't wait to hear your marketing ideas
It's called OOMWOO in all caps dude. My idea is, call it literally anything else. Also I'm getting one
How about WOOOOM
Or vwoomba
UwUmba?
Lumisal beat you to it, sorry buddy
If that way the case, in keeping with open source tradition, it should be the Uwumba
Yes, it was a latin v
Why not MOOOOW?
that one goes on the lawn.
We gotta reserve this for a future sibling that cut the grass
It holds all the dust in its WOMB!
The name apparently is a rotational ambigram. I would have sworn it was a transdimensional mammogram
That's actually pretty cool once you know about it.
Something much better like eufy? Or roomba?
I think it's a law that robot vacuums must be named something silly.
I have no objections. If it doesn't connect to the wider internet, could be cool
OOMWOO just sounds like a fake AliExpress brand.
Like, even just SelfVac or whatever would be good...
VacBot, HoovrBot AutoVac, AutoHoovr...there's just so many options for names that describe what it is
How about
iSuck^TM^
🤣
Ooh, I really like "AutoVac!"
“I’ve been SelfVack’n it all day long.”
People love a good innuendo
YOURMOMMA
We've done it. Look no further
3real5me...the amount of time and money needed to make even simple projects robust and truly usable, and not just a janky DIY job that needs to be used in just the right way or it's wonky is always more than you expect. No matter how many times you've been through the process.
I tend to consider first attempts/versions as Betas. Sometimes I will do the full alpha, beta, RC cycle
Freedman has a pretty good video relating to this
Yeah, i mean, that's just how developing anything works, i think it shuld be something that people have to explain more when they introduce someone to the DIY world, if you expect to finish a product on the first iteration or the first few, you either gonna fail or you have set a low bar
I think my device is easy and intuitive to use. The user wants video instructions and refuses to use my thing otherwise :(
I would actually be more interested in custom firmware for our old touch-and-go Roomba. The hardware is great, fully modular, did even survive a round of cat barf and washing. But the firmware is buggy and does inefficient vacuuming rounds.
The only thing out there that I know of is https://valetudo.cloud/
Which is basically only a on-device proxy to prevent communications.
But thanks.
Ha, let's hope that doesn't happen here. This is genuinely exciting.
cry in voron 3d printer
EDIT: they are not only the top 3 committers, they are the only 3 committers
EDIT0: repo is all screenshots and markdown files, another one has a trivial amount of code also written with ai
Thank you for saving me the time I would have wasted getting excited about this
Well there is nothing to be excited about, the entire repo is empty with only a bunch of readme files. Zero code has been written ai or not.
Don't use any operating systems and most major websites then because theyre all using a coding agent now. It's just the way the industry is going at the moment
edit: Linux uses
Claudecopilot ffs. It needs to be noted as an AI contribution and needs human review but Linux and Windows definitely use AI coding agents and I guarantee Apple does too. Be in denial all you want. I'm not advocating for them, I'm stating the reality of the industry right now.linux kernel code scrutiny is extreme
random vibe coded github repo code scrutiny is none at all
The difference between Linux and this random repository is that Linux has very strict code quality control, this repo and other thousand of projects (including winvibe 11) don't;
If everyone had a strict policy of "AI as an help only and not as a replacement" and quality control, then i wouldn't complain at all but we aren't at that point yet and i doubt we will ever be
Go tell this to a fencepost near your home.
Read it and weep. From April 2026 https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/linux-lays-down-the-law-on-ai-generated-code-yes-to-copilot-no-to-ai-slop-and-humans-take-the-fall-for-mistakes-after-months-of-fierce-debate-torvalds-and-maintainers-come-to-an-agreement
Again I am not advocating for AI coding agents but they ARE BEING USED in major applications. Unplug or accept a lot of software/websites you use are using coding agents
That's exactly why I don't like Linux that damn CIA project. Once I leave parents' crib, imma sell my best laptop (with no parents looking at me like an absolute moron) then get a ThinkPad T450p from a crackhead and then get someone else to buy that one MacBook CPU with an adapter board from Aliexpress and give that to me so that I can finally compute in peace with some BSD.
Lemmy users don't care about reality, you're talking to a brick wall basically.
It's open source. Feel free to write your own software, or pay someone to do it for you.
"Here is a beautiful piece of art. You say it's just a blank piece of paper? Please feel free to draw your own art on it, and then it will be as I said."
I know the real news here is the hardware, but it is still funny...
The thing is... it's not blank. It's painted, but someone complains no that the art is bad, but that they don't like how it was painted. Well, nobody is forcing you to look at it, you can even paint it yourself.
Isn't the repo basically blank...?
Yep, everyone updoot this so the ones who come after can stop reading at the top comment.
Downvoting you for writing updoot
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Mah Na Mah Na
Damnit, you were supposed to be here three comments ago!
Valid.
I don't see that as a problem. A vacuum cleaner isn't critical infrastructure and shouldn't be connected to the internet, so no security concerns. Worst case scenario it ruins your carpet. Majority of the work here will be done on hardware side it seems.
There's 0 code thus far. What "code" does exist is all just readme.md for various ros modules. Getting upset about the guy using ai seems a little premature.
They don't have any code yet but 3 slopgen accounts are already connected. It's worse, it's actually worse.
There's another repo with a Docker file and that was all written with Claude too for some reason. Though I don't see why in the ever living fuck this would need Docker.
Also, why are we even getting excited over a vacuum cleaner existing as a pile of markdown files talking about it? There are lots of these, actually.
Not sure what's up with docker.
I understand some excitement though. Initially reading this I thought it was a more mature project that it is and something like this that's fully open source would be a nice change from all the projects that talk about replacing firmware but then turn out to run on one version of hardware that hasn't been sold in at least five years.
So? The repository is empty did you even check it. There is no code in it at all.
And 3 accounts are already "contributing". That's not better. It's worse.
Ty 😊
Sick, but also in the mean time check out the Valetudo project
As i understand it Valetudo is not actually firmware to control the robot. It is a "parasite" that makes the existing robot firmware belive it is connected to the cloud which is very different from actually controlling and navigating the robot. However, in terms of homeasistant integration it could be worth getting inspired.
For a control operating system ROS could be something to consider. When I used it 10 years ago the project was quite unstable since tools changed constantly and it was overly complicated to work with, but a lot of development has happened since so maybe worth considering.I wrote this before reading the articleThis is why I love foss software. Their is some guy hacking away at some very specific problem in his own time and he shares it with the world for free. You will have never heard of this problem or even contemplated its existence but once u know some foss developer has solved it going back to a world where it doesn't exist is just a little bit duller.
I love valetudo!
But I also think there should be more open source robotics, and a robot vacuum feels the right topic as a starting point.
I think I also saw someone that wanted to make a robot grass cutter.
Looks pretty cool but a very short list of compatible devices. Also, what they consider "budget options" are not what I would consider "in my price range". LoL 😂
What is your price range, a button and two shells? The S5 can be found for 50 bucks used.
It's three shells, and I still don't know how to use them.
I wasn't able to even find that one. And several of the others. Were you on Amazon or eBay?
Ebay, and the local used market (something like Facebook marketplace or Craigslist)
O M O
O W O
I heard it runs on UWU/Linux
As time goes on I'm hoping more products like this that give what was once only possible via locked down proprietary software a new open and repairable life as theres many new products and tech that I see but could never use unless I'd want to just upload everything I do to whoevers servers and pray that they don't get breached.
https://www.opensourceecology.org/gvcs/
The Global Village Construction Set (GVCS) is a modular, DIY, low-cost, high-performance platform that allows for the easy fabrication of the 50 different Industrial Machines that it takes to build a small, sustainable civilization with modern comforts. We’re developing open source industrial machines that can be made at a fraction of commercial costs, and sharing our designs online for free.
okay I clicked quite a few of those, And afaict, only the house is past the "planning" stage
It looks like a DVD rewinder.
Be kind, vacuum my floor
I just want one where the storage the vac empties out into is on the side so it can slide under a couch.
These things take so much damn space and for some reason they didn't figure out there is a bunch of real estate underneath shit.
Delete this comment, sell idea to a company, profit! But in all seriousness this is a smart idea.
Need to do this with a lot of home appliances.
Looking for ways to keep my old one running as long as possible. it's that roboroc xiaomi platform and it has been supper easy to get spare parts. I replaced entire wheel sections batteries and such.
There is a software that replaces the Xiaomi app and that would be the next project.
No need to phone home to china all the time.
What software?
I think this one
https://valetudo.cloud/pages/general/supported-robots/
Needs a custom firmware installed. But then I am free to use it even if the official app no longer exists.
Can confirm it works and is great. I'm even running a Glados voice pack on it that insults me while it cleans.
Only issue I've had the whole time was actually this week when I finally updated the valetudo re version to support the new home assistant MQTT format and the update got stuck but that was an easy fix once I worked out what it was.
Can it say ouch when you kick it or say let me down when you pick it up?
I did try the 'ouch' feature and that was fun for all of 10 minutes and then it moved very quickly into annoying so that feature got disabled.
https://arner.github.io/posts/#make-glados-clean-your-floor
This is it. I've done it last month, and besides having all the control of my s7, I swear that the robot is faster??!
I love this! I'll be following along :)
... oomwoo?
Sorry, I need to look this up on Squeam.
Hey, on Mreesh, somebody said its a scam!
... But then LikkiiLiikkii says its legit.
Hrm, I wonder what Gronk thinks...
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https://ooee.ooo/
We trained him wrong, as a joke!
Sorry I'm pretending to be a normal person, who is just like, trying to say and a remember a word.
I’m surprised they didn’t go for more of a wide-mouth D bot design like the old neatos did. And a pi5 is hardly affordable in 2026. If it’s local only, does it really need the processing power of a pi? It’ll be on a home network with something running homeassistant anyway. Give it a dumb controller and make it like a wireless klipper bot, the heavy lifting done on the server.
They do mention it is undecided yet and an esp32 is an option. For me that would be ideal but I can also imagine some devs just want some kind of linux where they can run python scripts on.
Or even a zero 2w
i ordered one of those two months ago and the expected delivery date in 2027…
Dude go to microcenter. Or get an orangepi or radxa board.
man i wish we had those in the eu. them and jeff geerling
You are in the eu? Fuck, look at radxa. They have fantastic shit that’s impossible to get in the US.
damn, i didn’t know, thanks!
While this is a cool idea, if you read the article, it's only an idea. Seems like nothing but a reference design has actually been made. Hoping to see it progress, but we shall see.
Concept of a vacuum.
Yeah, over the years I've learned to not hold my breath about any interesting announcement. Though I'm at the point now where I don't really care either way and feel like pointing it out for any specific project just feels overly pessimistic. Just let them cook or contribute knowing there's never a guarantee it'll come to fruition.
The game changer in robot vacs for me was the emptying station. My first one didn't have it and it just sat in the corner. Full.
Same.
Though I'm not a vacuum cleaner, I just eat a lot. And I will also cry.
Doesn't that lock you in to a specific type of bag that only the robot manufacturer creates?
It does but I am still on my first ten pack so ...
Also there are for sure some alternative bags, I just didn't put time in to find them.
Shark robot vacuums don’t use bags at least
You still have to empty the station tho
I do that three times a year. It works for me.
No way you change the stinky dirty water only once every four months?
Ah, mine does vacuum only :)
Dreamee 10 pro
This looks cool! Nice!
I've been interested in Kärcher since it's German and has better privacy laws than the US branded stuff. But this would be interesting. The Kärcher though is on sale for $400USD on their site, tough to beat. 🤕
Might also take a look at the ones from Bosch. I got the Spotless Max (without cam) and am pretty happy with it. But I also got no comparison to competitors how they perform.
Ooh, this might be a great project for my wife and I to build together
I can't even get my wife to build a Lego set with me 🤣
I've got to share time on the 3d printer now she's got the hang of it, we don't have room for 2. But it's still great to see!
Oh the physical part is all me, she just wants to do the computer stuff lol. But yeah she's been interested in some projects where she can program and I can build.
If I have an old Roomba can I hack a new brain into it? I've got a Raspberry Pi and a soldering iron and a willingness to break them for science. Never done much hardware hacking though.
Technically yes GPIO -> pin headers of each physical control.
with a name like that, I really hope that it has a boot-up sound option where it makes an awoo boot noise.
Is "OOMWOO" an onomatopoeia for a vacuum cleaner's sounds?
Is there a word for a palindrome that works when you rotate it 180 degrees?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambigram
Taken from the blog post.
Awesome project! I would love to buy some robovacs, but I don't want some unknown entitity mapping our home and whatnot. Our maid would love it too. Being done earlier for the same pay 😁
Just use valetudo in this case it works great
Oh. Wow. Thanks. Last time I checked the market it was horrible and then I just gave up on robovacs. Too many different to reverse engineer every single one. But great, gonna check this one out deeply. Thanks man.
The setup is fairly involved and not super beginner friendly however I finally came across and finished to flash my robot a few weeks ago and i don't notice any difference vs the stock firmware when using home assistant, beside the fact that its no longer connecting to all these random servers in China. It really is a wonderful project!
Sounds great! Although I less worry about Chinese servers than american servers 😁 I would even be fine if it were shittier then, or totally manual programming or whatever. Just not clouds that get data I know nothing about and have no agency over it.
the robot vac i have had for 3 years is the dumbest machine. goes over the same areas multiple times a session. has a manual steer setting but if i gotta steer it, whats the point of robotics? finally gave up and got a dust mop.
At the risk of sounding like an ad, roborock (xiaomi) makes fantastic vacuums. Great navigation, great cleaning performance, obstacle avoidance (cables, socks, etc) depends on the model.
They do offer a meter interface if you want to have it offline, but I'm quite happy with the (cloud based) app, allows a bit more control.
It integrates with home assistant but it sometimes goes "unavailable", the matter integration is a bit more stable for that.
I sure other manufacturers also have great ones, check "vacuum wars" on YouTube.
Awesome estimated cost of doing it?
Consider working with some manufacturer to sell it, as HA compatible, not spying vacuum robot.
Awesome project. So cool DIYers can build something like this now (with a lot of help from the project owner)!
I'm good with this. I actually want a smaller unit for my home office specifically.
so large enough to cover around 200-ish sqft.
The two things with robot vacs is one cleaning the roller is to annoying. I think it would be best for it to be like a shop vac. Yeah it would not do as good a job but would be a good general cleaner and you don't have to mess with the roller sweeper. Two is a base station to auto empty the refuse bin. Honestly for the first part it maybe just better as an option. so you have one for more thorugh clean that will need more maint but no more than a standard vacc and one that is less maint and can pickup more types of stuff. Might be good just to have the shop vac type go first so that the roller type gets gunked up less.
The roller has been solved a few years ago. The split-roller design doesn't need any maintenance, no hair tangles in the two years I owned mine. Plenty of robots use it, as the patent expired.
I agree completely but the suction required for something without a brush is huge and you'll need a much bigger motor and battery. I had a vacuum that didn't auto empty for years and while my new one is a huge upgrade it was a time saver just to have one do the vacuuming and then empty it manually or every other time if there wasn't much dirt.
See I found it was not much of a time saving. I would rather just vaccum than clean and prep it. It was useful when my wife was sick as I literally needed to be able to do two things at once and cleaning it out could be done at any time and piece meal and such so it worked. But under normal circumstances, again, I would just prefer to vaccum which does not take all that much time and is not ardous. Now something that went pretty often and was like 99% autonomous where I just empty a bine once a week. That would be worth it. Even if I had to vaccum I could do it once a week and keep the carpet very clean or once a month and have it be pretty decently generally clean.