What would you like to see on the Fediverse?
The Fediverse is growing and we have decently successful platforms like Lemmy and Mastodon. What else would you like to see?
Any big tech platform not yet replaced or maybe something new altogether? What are we missing?
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eBay/marketplace/etsy alternative.
I believe Flohmarkt is a fediverse alternative.
Interesting ... It looks pretty active. A few dozen instances, mainly in Germany. This has real potential.
Would be even better if these things didn't use completely stupid names!! They're not clever, or hip, or even fun. Flohmarkt sounds like I'd be too embarrassed to share what it is.
Is just German for flea market.
Yeah I see that now after looking it up. OK that makes more sense. Still not a great alt for North America yet
You can name your flohmarkt instance whatever you want though.
That's good to know, I see is avail on Yunohost, too
If it was named something else illogical itd work, like weinerschnitzel selling no schnitzel
Flohmarket is just the name of the software, which as another said, is the German word for flea market. I suspect the creator is German.
Anyone who self-hosts their own flohmarket instance can call their instance whatever they want.
Names are subjective. "Youtube" makes no sense if you discard all the grab that it has now in retrospective. "Craiglist" is even worse.
YouTube always made sense because "tube" is old slang for TV.
Yeah, I guess I'm old enough to remember TVs being referred to a such hah 😅
...this is the first time in the entire Fediverse that I feel not-that-old 👀
Also known as the "boob tube" with "boob" being a synonym for "idiot". I'm not that old...
I do think that would be neat but wonder how payments might be integrated from a technical perspective. I also wonder if there are any regulations that would get in the way or if it would even apply to something like that.
Edit: also, if people buy something then the instance goes offline. That would be another issue to figure out.
Yeah I've thought about the question there of like is it acceptable then for those managing the instance to collect a percentage of transactions in the case where they provide payment management, arbitration, etc. Because if someone is a bad actor on Lemmy or mastadon you just ban them or the instance, but in the case of money changing hands that's more difficult to administer
The issue in the US with accepting payments on behalf of sellers is that you have to then collect sales tax which is different for every locality. Then you also have to issue tax forms to the sellers for sales over a certain amount. Which leaves us with sellers collecting payments on their own which means using something like PayPal or Bitcoin. You would just have to have people build trust through reviews and hope for the best. You could base the service in a random other country so that you wouldn't have a bunch of regulations to deal with and leave all the tax stuff up to the buyers and sellers. You'd probably run into issues with accepting credit cards though.
What about something like wero integration? Isn't that supposed to be peer-to-peer?
I get that the trust is another issue though. What happens when a person gets stiffed? Who's guaranteeing the purchase or vetting sellers?
On darknet markets they use an escrow account and admins act as mediators, so as long as you can show that you have a valid tracking number. The issue becomes when people try to scam you by selling you broken electronics or scam buyers pulling fraud returns. Weirdly this is common with VCRs on eBay. There's large resellers who buy good VCRs and steal parts out of them and return them. Then they resell on Amazon. I guess it comes back to having a karma system.
The whole thing needs legal, insurance and escrow. Nobody in their right mind would want to host it for free if it actually handled the money. Could go anonymous and crypto but really that's just asking for it.
Hooking up buyers and sellers and having them sort out prices, taxes and shipping would prob be the only viable way.
At some point, someone is going to do enough business to get a good rep and make a large sale and screw someone out of money.
There is flohmarkt.
My friends and neighbors and loved ones.
more outreach to, and adoption by, communities that are not specifically tech- or FOSS-focused, like crafting, parenting, fashion, home repair, or brewing, for example. gotta keep chipping away at those network effects. onboarding and ux will need to be top tier.
and moderation is crucial: toxicity pushes people away, so we should maybe try to not push our content creators (actual and potential) away.
For some, lighter moderation is the special sauce though. Like, I want my mods to understand the difference between frustrated venting and actual, actionable threats and/or malicious content.
It would really help if the rules were clearly stated, and then those exact rules, not some other hidden set entirely, were enforced.
ML comes to.mind, censoring anything negative about China, Russia, or North Korea (how much longer until it adds the USA to that list?), without explicitly stating that anywhere.
It's the "surprise" aspects that most often turn people away.
Another one is how Hexbears have historically been allowed to troll people all across the Threadiverse. They were explicitly asked not to do that by their own admin team, but there too the follow-up actions did not match the talk.
Any city/county/state/federal (or your countrys equivalent) running their own fediverse servers (especially Mastodon) instead of simply having a twitter handle.
Not so sure I want them to self host, just based on their track record for security, but I would like them to be more visible.
Also news outlets could benefit from doing this instead of us having to rely on repost automation.
I would also love to see peertube become more competitive to YouTube. It would probably need some kind of revenue sharing model or donation integration for that though.
I agree about the self hosted part. That part isn’t important. But an @city.mastodon server is better than an @city on twitter username. The important part is getting them off proprietary platforms.
Like how they all do email and websites now.
Probably someone needs to start a service aimed at them, like a mastodon instance called localgov.social or something
Yep. That's what I meant. I want them to come to the fediverse but I don't necessarily want the city's IT admin to manage it between fighting laser printers.
A self-hosted instance has a big advantage: only those working on that admin can have a user. So if you see, p.e., @[email protected] you know it's the real account and not a fake one.
Agreed. I don't think I explained myself clearly enough: I want them to have a presence online. Among the reasons being exactly what you're pointing out. However, I think at least for smaller cities with very little staff, it's not realistic to ask them to literally self-host it (as in having a server on-prem running it). I would be fine with them outsourcing it or cloud-hosting it under their own domain. A potential solution for the small ones could be something like a state-level hosted service where municipalities can sign up and get their own accounts, for example. That would work even for something like Rittman, Ohio pop. 6,131.
They can certainly self-host, it doesn't mean you have to join those instances. Them making those instances would be good for adoption.
Absolutely. The organizations that have the most to gain and the most capability to manage instances are
These are groups that have unique publishing and legal mandates that already have the IT departments and adequate sway to compel users. They already host email and websites, and regularly come into conflict with corporate messaging platforms.
You know how that would end up: massively slow server for 3 million a day hosted at politician X's friend.
I don't know that at all. Public services where I'm at are pretty well run.
I’m not saying they need to physically host the metal, but the addresses need to be Fediverse addresses. Like how they current do email. I have no idea if my mayors email is outlook or Gmail or whatever, the important part is it’s [email protected].
I'm just kidding, it would be great :)
The Netherlands has removed many departments form shitter and moved them to Mastodon.
I would love to see an alternative for google maps where openstreetmap is not enough. So a system where you can post reviews, photos, menus of locations etc.
CoMaps (which uses openstreetmaps) has the option of adding a link to a menu for restaurants, though I don't think it has reviews.
You can add websites to businesses on OSM too. It's not that common, unfortunately
That would be neat. It would also be really nice to have some kind of community notes section where you can info on parking, best times to go, etc. Especially for tourist destinations.
There is apparently an incredible amount of manipulation and legal fights happening around these reviews on Google maps, so that is probably a minefield any independent open-source developer should avoid.
OpenStreetMap is frankly about as good as a crowdsourced map can possibly be.
And it's always improving. Mobile apps like CoMaps let you add business information. There are also apps like Every Door, MapComplete, or SCEE, which particularly emphasize updating OSM on the go.
There are apps for adding photos, such as Mapilary or Panoramax, which are not built into OSM, but built on top of it.
There have been a few attempts at FOSS review projects, like lib.reviews or mangrove.reviews, although it is tricky to reach critical mass.
Each of these are huge organizational challenges and data management challenges on their own. Without selling ads or mining data, it's hard for me to imagine a single project that does evey part and does it well.
just in case you don't know, mapillary is a facebook project
I think it's even impossible if not accessible in a popular OSM map app
Thanks, I did not realize. I just did a quick search because I remembered an app but couldn't remember the name. Must be something else.
Edit: Maybe it was mapillary after all. They were acquired by Meta in 2020. A better option looks to be KartaView.
kartaview is not better either. they are hypocrite liars: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/4942
panoramax thought, that is promising.
I couldn't quite follow all that. TLDR?
they started out as openstreetcam. they turned out to be not open, in source code and licensing of uploaded content. their app couldn't even be open source, as it used closed source components (including facebook data mining components), that they did not want to remove. they have got renamed to kartaview and belong to a crappy company. they also don't value user privacy, shown partly by using facebook (among other) tracking code both on the website and in the app.
at first, they turned out they don't value privacy of its users, but with an openstreetmap adjacent project that is essential. most OSM editors and users are here partly for the privacy properties of the services and accompanying apps, and like that we can't honestly recommend something to others that we ourselves wouldn't use.
openstreetcam privacy policy said they share user data with third parties for analysis of the users. that alone shows how they treat their users, but their website contained facebook tracking technology among others, which is significantly worse for reasons I will not detail here.
in the openstreetmap ecosystem another thing that is important is openness and free software. because that's how you can know how is your data handled, or how you can continue development if the original devs abandoned the project. all significant android osm apps are available on the F-droid store. F-droid vets all apps it accepts, including all updates to them, and closed source components are not allowed in any of them, because what they do can not be audited.
openstreetcam (at some point renamed to kartaview) was not willing to remove the unauditable components for f-droid inclusion. it was more important for them to collect enormous amounts of user data for facebook and other data brokers.
then the open source app completely stopped being open source. they did not officially stopped development, they just started to forget uploading the source code changes. they even tried to argue other points with "but our app is open source!" when it could not be built from source for several years already. that shows they only used open as a marketing term.
later it turned out the app was owned by a crappy company, and that they take all rights, irrevocable, for all images uploaded.
probably other things also happened I don't remember now.
Yeah, an Imgur replacement would be awesome. That place is full of triggerinas now-a-days
Government agencies and businesses from my area. Information about local events. Everything is on Facebook 😔
There's a few trickling in to mastodon
An eBay replacement. Now that they heavily track everything and anything about users-be it sellers and buyers and visitors, I no longer use it after about 25 years.. 😢
I don't do social media, and Letgo/offerup is no better. Might as well go back to Craigslist lol
Agree this would be amazing, but also difficult, since money features as security concerns.
There is Flohmarkt, which is still in early stages, but looks promising. https://codeberg.org/flohmarkt/flohmarkt
more people embracing/publishing original content on peertube. righ now I just can't find anything decent to sub too other than Veronica Explains. I wish more linux youtubers would also put content on peertube or just decent original content in general
Nextdoor but less toxic
That would be neat. Able to get the info you want without the constant ads or emails from Nextdoor.
More adoption by the public
I think this is a little bit outside of the ask, but I'd like to find a place that is both positive and relatively politically neutral.
Part of what drive me here was that the tip of the iceberg (facebook, instagram, tiktok) feel so deeply infused with ads/ai/influencers that even the content I like is likely deceitful. This bums me out and makes me not want to use social media.
Places like reddit and any of the #chans have less of this, but the baked-in politics in both make of them bum me out.
I like that Lemmy feels like it's actual people, but the politics and negativity can get to be a little much for me. I don't like to think about things I don't like, and while I can the value in being informed of things that I may need to act on, I don't think that constantly bringing up things we take for granted is helpful.
What I want to be doing is getting to build and be a part of something positive and purposeful, something people do because they're passionate, something that is so cool that the shitty stuff outside kind of pales in comparison. I've met lots of cool people on here that are that way, and I've been able to filter some of the negativity out by ignoring posts that I know will bring that out in people, but still, it would be cool to see something like that.
I hope it's as simple as finding the right instance for me.
So I have some advice that you might already be thinking/implementing.
For Lemmy use your three buckets well.
You have,
All
Local
Subscribed
Use 'all' feed for keeping an eye out on that bigger social media and taking the value of being 'informed' on the current narratives and events.
Pick an area of relatively specific interest, i see your currently on our premier Marxist/Leninist server, if thats anything like Aussie Zone its a completely different bucket of topics thar you will hopefully be able to relate to in a very different way to the 'All' feed. If your local server is fairly sleepy or not that different from 'all' considwr moving server fedidb or Lemmy Verse might help with server selection.
Use subscribed to drill down and keep a tight list of the niche communities rhat will really keep you happy, don't subscribe if you only think its important to keep abreast of, keep that list as your happy place. 😊
I've recently joined Mastodon. For individual to individual connection it is better. So to my surprise, I've found Lemmy and Mastodon work well used as a pair. Even though if I want to, I can see the agonisingly embarrassing comments I make on lemmy very easily from my Masto account.
Thank you so much for taking the time to lay that all out for me. I'm sure you've had to do it once or twice already, lol. I'll absolutely start curating the stuff I'd rather see. Maybe part of the friction I'm feeling is a procedural rub with marxists/leninists, and it would make sense/be hilarious if I've wandered into the middle of their space.
Do you have any less political servers you'd recommend? Besides the servers/services you recommended? Or is it largely an issue with the server i'm on?
Glad I can help! 😊
So, hard question in server selection. If .ml server isn't for you then there are hundreds of other options. Lemmy Verse is definitely going to be your friend here. Instance is substituted for server, and is a more appropriate name.*
This highlight button in the image shows you what to select on Lemmy Verse to get a large list of networked Instances. It likely won't be all the Instances, and may have some dormant and/or private Instances not open to the public to join. Most of the Instances with some size will be open and no problem to join though.
^*I only like to refer to Instances as servers because it reminds me that they also have a physical presence somewhere in this world, and the location selected has some importance.^
So thats a quick general guide for Instance selection.
Specifically 'non-political' Instances that I know is hard because I don't know how political is too political for you.
Take my 'Local' Instance, its for Australians and people interested in upside down land. Theres plenty not political, but each day we are posting and discussing the daily political news. You know, things like, which bum scratchin politician has been caught pickin their nose again, etc..
Theres other location specifics for France, New Zealand, Netherlands, Midwest US (midwest.social), UK, etc..
If you're looking to get away from politics as much as possible then maybe location specific areas won't work for you.
With that said technology servers might be the go, db0 or programming.dev are examples.
You could join solarpunk and help them imagine a positive futuristic world rather than a dystopian one.
Or mander.xyz is more science based.
Book lovers might like literature.cafe
These are just some of the larger (in fediverse terms) options you could look into.
I hope that helps you and anyone else reading.
If you do decide to change I'd love to know where you've gone off to and why that Instance was chosen. Theres so many Instances I still have no idea about 😆
Agreed - can’t say for sure if this is my instance / communities or not but Lemmy seems to have a very particular political bent and it’s pretty narrow. On top of this there are some dominant narratives that I wouldn’t count as “politics” but which are inescapable - and heaven help you if you say something interesting that doesn’t affirm one of these narratives.
More outside of the question.
So Lemmy and Mastodon are mirrors of two popular forms of social media; what I think might be the next real step is innovation.
No, not a fediverse AI, something more human and "old web". A federated forum system paired with a solid fedi-search engine could do slot of good - especially with the walled gardens and AI slopfest that the surface net is becoming.
I am a bit disappointed by all the federated social media kinda being boring clones of existing things instead of branching out more. More customizability would be nice. Just got Marvis for apple music and I really like the idea of setting smart rules for my social media feeds. (Creating your own algorithm) Cyberspace.online is a pretty interesting looking alt take on social media, not open source tho I don't think.
Something that lets us create our own profiles like myspace would be nice, using threejs or some sht to allow for interactive experiences
I'd love to see that wonderful interoperability we were all promised. It should be possible to have one identity/account that's connected to multiple services. I should be able to log in once, post some thoughts on Mastodon, share a photo on Pixelfed, and comment on a PeerTube video. Some services have tried to combine various formats with a little success, but it has been very limited, and generally broken.
Forums for long, linear discussion, like phpBB or Discourse, with good discoverability.
I do miss a good forum. That used to be my favorite thing about the internet.
I really miss those days, when you had a good one you were like a family.
Discourse has an ActivityPub plugin: https://discourse.org/plugins/activitypub
This plugin, for example, is enabled on SocialHub https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/ap/about (it's a forum for fediverse developers)
No discoverablity. There is no directory that lets me find interesting forums the way I can find lemmy communities.
How do you discover Lemmy communities? Federated categories in Discourse work in the same way, so a tool capable of discovering Lemmy communities should also be capable of discovering Discourse forums.
nodeBB literally is forum software in the Fediverse. I don't know if it can do strictly linear like phpBB, though.
Or you create a channel on Hubzilla. You can configure it for your stream to be strictly linear as opposed to be tree-style. And then you can join Lemmy communities, /kbin or Mbin magazines, PieFed communities, nodeBB subforums, Friendica groups, Hubzilla forums, (streams) groups, Forte groups, you name them, and they're all strictly linear from your POV. It's just that you, on Hubzilla, will always only directly reply to the start post (as opposed to the most recent comment) when the thread itself at its source is actually tree-style.
No discoverablity. There is no directory that lets me find interesting forums the way I can find lemmy communities.
Lots if nice users posting original content.
Monetization broker for a video service. Let's give Youtube a run for the money.
Hosted gaming system, card games, board games, tabletop simulator style. Maybe Minecraft java, built around self hostable servers.
E2E Encryption Communication, maybe a tightly integrated reticulum host.
Dedicated news system focused on free journalism (hard with AI and propaganda I know)
Shore up Pixelfed and Loops or Competition for them.
Some form of integrated system that ties all this stuff together, like a dashboard with all your different things. Maybe something like the homeassistant dashboard but for all your fedi services.
That would be great!
Less memes. I feel like that is all this site is now..
the bigger it gets, the more the memes will become everything.
agreed though. way too many memes, not enough legit information anymore.
I actually think it's the opposite that's needed. An anonymized shitposting tier of fediverse interaction ala the chan imageboards.
There's so many meme shitposting communities that there could just be dedicated and anonymized band of federation that is specialized to deal only in memes.
Users, that could help.
*Organic users
I'm ok with genetically modified users.
I'm a talking butterfly if that helps
Sounds like we need to get to cloning.
YouTube, obviously. And peertube is not it.
Why not? Because of the software, or just the lack of content?
Not the one you're replying to, but I'd generally agree.
If someone wants to post on Peertube, they basically either have to have the time, funding, and know-how to self-host, or arrive with an established audience. Someone with great creative talent does not necessarily want to run an expensive and complicated software project. Someone who has an established audience has very little incentive to jump to federation.
PeerTube is improving slowly. There are now a few instances with open registration, which could mean more fertile ground for good content. We shall see.
OK, so not the software, but the accessibility for non-techy people
My main problem is the lack of discoverability. Maybe the content is just not there, but even if it is I don't think I'd be able to find it. And I regularly try.
this issue is adoption. for 90% of the casuals, they get their fix from Reddit, tiktok, Instagram, Imgur and youtube. Facebook if they are boomers, and linkedin if they are corporate types. They tend to be milquetoast parrots and regurgitators who think they are so clever "observing" a take that has been so well worn it's its own ship of theseus three times over at this point. Short of the AI bubble bursting and forcing them elsewhere, I don't see that changing anytime soon, sadly.
A federated roaming user directory so you can have the same user at once in different aspects of the Fediverse.
That’s the feature I want most as well
100% this would be it. I also think one unified account would help with adoption. I run my own instances and think it'd be much easier to get friends on board if i didn't need them to sign up for several services.
This is technologically impossible to implement. And believe me, I've discussed this very same topic often enough.
Thing is, if you want to use a Fediverse server, any Fediverse server running any Fediverse software, if you want to use it like a local user with a local account, then you will inevitably require an account on that server, full stop.
Whatever you do on that server, it will inevitably have to store it in its local database. It can't store that in the database of another server. So it will have to create database cells that are attributed to your Fediverse identity. But it can only attribute them to an identity on itself, not to an identity on another server.
You can't log onto discuss.aethelgard.space, go over to hub.hubzilla.hu to try Hubzilla as a user, be automatically logged in as a user, do all kinds of stuff there, and then hub.hubzilla.hu stores all your content, all your settings etc. etc. in the remote database of discuss.aethelgard.space. Servers don't work that way. Especially if they're so incompatible.
Like, where in its database is a Lemmy server like discuss.aethelgard.space supposed to store the contents of your Hubzilla profile, considering Hubzilla has dozens of dedicated profile text fields, and Lemmy has literally none?
Where does a Lemmy server like discuss.aethelgard.space have the appropriate database fields for other Hubzilla-specific content and settings?
Where does a Lemmy server like discuss.aethelgard.space have the appropriate database fields for the various configuration options that Hubzilla offers for each contact, seeing as Lemmy doesn't even know the concept of contacts in the first place, save for which communities you're a member of?
If you want to do stuff as a local user on hub.hubzilla.hu, hub.hubzilla.hu must store your stuff locally. And attribute it to a local identity, like, on the same server. No, it can't attribute your stuff to your discuss.aethelgard.space account.
Trust me, I know a thing or two about running Fediverse servers. I used to self-host a few private servers on a machine at home long before even Mastodon became so hugely popular, long before Reddit was so enshittified that people escaped to Lemmy. No Docker, no YunoHost, straight on the Debian GNU/Linux system, all the way to manually setting up and configuring SQL databases.
If you want to be able to use any Fediverse server running any Fediverse software, you've got the following options:
One central login server for the whole Fediverse.
Like, go to fediverse.com, log in on fediverse.com and have full access to thousands upon thousands of Fediverse servers running 100++ different server applications.
Yeah. And then that server shuts down because whichever hobbyist runs it has no time for it anymore. Or Elon Musk or Sam Altman or Larry Ellison or whoever comes and buys it out. Or it's running in the USA, and the FBI seizes it. With the one and only login server gone, the Fediverse as a whole is dead.
Mike Macgirvin, the most creative Fediverse developer ever (this guy created three Fediverse protocols and over a dozen Fediverse applications in over 16 years, four of which still exist, two of which he still maintains), hasn't invented nomadic identity in 2011 without a reason. That reason is servers shutting down with no warning, and people losing everything, because their home server was a single point of failure. Reducing the Fediverse to exactly one login server gives the whole Fediverse a single point of failure and goes into the exact opposite direction of nomadic identity.
You create one account, you create it literally everywhere.
Go anywhere in the Fediverse, and your login credentials work all the same everywhere, regardless of where you are.
Yeah. That's like 30,000+ individual servers. Maybe minus servers with closed login if you don't want to be able to use these. Also, any Fediverse server that's being spun up for the first time is public with open registration by default. Which means that anyone in the Fediverse must be able to use it. Which means that when it spins up, it'll have to create one account for each of the 10,000,000++ Fediverse users. Like, I set up my own little Forte server, I start it for the first time, and a few freaking days of automatic account creation later, that thing has over four times more registered users than mastodon.social. Just in case one of them may come over to try Forte. Because you never know.
But now you'll say, "I don't want to use 30,000 servers! I only want to use a few!" Believe me, I do have heard that before.
Yeah. And how, pray tell, are these servers supposed to know in advance that you want to use them so they can create an account for you?
Each server can look into the future and knows whether and when you'll want to use it. Only those servers that you'll want to use will have an account for you.
Unrealistic for hopefully blatantly obvious reasons. If they aren't obvious: How is a Web server supposed to see the future, all the way to your own spontaneous decisions?
When you arrive on a Fediverse server while logged in on discuss.aethelgard.space, there's automatically an account created for you with the same login credentials as on discuss.aethelgard.space, and you're automatically logged in.
I call it "drive-by account creation".
Not only isn't that realistically possible (if anything, the other server will only be able to pull the password hash from discuss.aethelgard.space and not the password itself), but it'd open its own can of worms. For example, admins who have configured their servers so that new accounts must be manually approved and activated by the admin are probably happy whenever someone creates a new account just by coming by while logged in elsewhere, and it's activated immediately, and they've got no control over it.
Less "platforms", more "content in the platforms" tbh.
But quite definitively, local government agencies and municipal level agencies participating in their respective national instances. Defo reduces the dependency on Shitsites.
more mod standards/tools better spam /content actions/ protection across all fediverse apps where they can opt in to the standard.
identity management/bridging which really ties into the next one-
communication hub (ingest email, messaging, etc like allin1 clients)
fediverse highlights over X period (this may exist and I'm lazy/shelteres)
More non-English communities.
The Fediverse it's pretty English-centric and there are very few communities of non-English speakers, even huge languages like Spanish with hundreds of millions of people.
I agree with this. Outside of German, I’ve found it very difficult to find communities in other languages. I couldn’t tell whether those communities didn’t exist at all or whether they were simply not discoverable.
I'd love to get some BAME make up skincare etc in ![email protected] but I've had zero luck
I think that's largely due to the lack of variety in our clientele.
It seems to be hard to get anyone from the non-geek community over here. My wife isn't interested at all if it doesn't have an algorithm. She wants the tech to spoon-feed her things she'll like instead of finding communities. Threads, Bluesky, Tiktok, Instagram just have all the people because it's what the masses crave.
I dunno I have zero tech skills... I am a bit of a nerd though if that counts
More people
Came here to say exactly this.
It's always worth posting something. I post a lot and the majority of stuff gets comments
I mean reddit is doing their best to send them our way!
I’d love for bands, venues and event promoters to list their upcoming shows on Mastodon. But I can’t really see it happening in the immediate future, since they have to cast the broadest possible net to lure people in. I tend to go to a lot of punk / garage shows (it’s an emotional outlet, I guess) and they’re allllll advertised exclusively on Instagram, often with AI-gen flyers. To add insult to injury.
Having more localized communities would change that.
A lot of small punk shows need to build a following locally before they can get traction nationally/internationally.
MMORPG!
An idle fediverse mmo would be cool, like aqworlds where it was just a chatroom with set dressing basically
Yeah, I guess a world as big as runescape or FFXIV would be ambitious since most fedi servers are run in people's basements, but a smaller world with a little bit of idle skilling I think is achievable. Not sure how many people could fit in one instance at a time, though, so that could be a serious limitation. It could even be 2D to save bandwidth.
Bitcraft claims to have open sourced its code.
But is it federated via activitypub?
Its a starting point
More Lemmy, PieFed, & Mbin communities/magazines with more content, especially niche ones!
Speaking of which, I'm gonna go ahead and shamelessly plug ![email protected] for anyone interested in bikes, e-bikes, skateboards, scooters, motorcycles, heelies, etc.
AmITheAsshole was always fun...
Oh, and hamsters! There's not a fediverse hamster community that compares to the hamster subreddits yet
More users.
I'd like to see better interoperability, more bridges to other platforms, and more adoption, especially from people who claim to hate X or Elon Musk so much.
Windows admin content. I am unfortunately cursed with the task and I'd love to be able to keep up with the patches here instead of needing reddit.
Something like a Mastodon+ where besides hosting just our microblog posts, each account would also have a modest amount of storage (maybe just 1 GB or even less) for a personal mini-website as part of our profile, where we could have other content in a more stable place for people to access-- for example essays, tutorials, reference info, fiction/poetry, pdfs for download, whatever someone might want to make available that isn't just a temporary toot that quickly scrolls away into the sunset.
The account profile would have a link that opens to a personal "home page" which is just a list of links to the various files (with room for description text for each link).
For the user there could be a settings page with a template to enter "Description: link" lines for each piece of content, and buttons to upload/manage the content files. Preferably the content pages would be in markdown format and would be rendered for the browser like the way github does with readme files. That way users wouldn't have to know how to do HTML.
This idea is because getting a domain, learning html, and creating a website is just not something most people can or want to deal with, but would still like to be able to have a place to put some of their stuff online. Another possible option might be ability to specify whether the personal mini-website is available to public, instance members, followers only, or mutuals only.
neocities?
Neocities and such are still non-fediverse platforms, and the users would still have to know how to do html and set up a website.
The idea was that since Mastodon already has the ability to store your micro-blog posts, as well as images and clips (and has a media button to view the posts that contain them), that it would be convenient for users to also be able to store a few articles or documents as well.
I suppose to make it simpler, these other types of files could also just be attachments to posts the way media files are, and there could be a button to view the posts containing them as well. That would be a lot simpler to implement than my idea, but it would be harder for others to find them and for the user to organize and present them.
Is Hubzilla too overkill? Or haven't you heard of it yet, or don't you know what it's capable of? Or do you absolutely need something that looks and feels like Mastodon?
Like, you can use Hubzilla for Twitter/Mastodon-style microblogging. And/or full-blown, fully-featured, Wordpress-level macroblogging with all bells and whistles and practically unlimited characters and unlimited images and unlimited poll options, literally within the same feed/timeline/stream. And add one or several webpages. And even tie the dynamic contents from your channel into your webpages.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Want a federated, optionally private, moderated group? Make a channel for one on your existing account. Want a CalDAV server? You have one built into any of your channels. Want a CardDAV server? You can have that, too. And so on.
https://hubzilla.org/ https://help.hubzilla.hu/en
Closed/private Communities akin to Discord or Whatsapp, where you could have family channels or work groups, classes and the like.
Movim is a federated Discord alternative, though not part of the fediverse/Activitypub, as it is based on XMPP instead. It's still a bit clunky in the UX department, but is currently the most full featured federated alternative.
Also @[email protected]
Has been possible on Friendica for 16 years now. Even more possible on Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte. And all still part of the Fediverse (unless you count a Hubzilla or (streams) channel with ActivityPub off that only runs on its native protocol as not part of the Fediverse).
I want all the twitter clones to implement a better system for how they create posts on the reddit clones than use a random hashtag.
Like, even just give them a setting to enable it instead of by default.
None of them ever understand that they're spamming us, it needs fixed at a system level
Trouble is, first came Mastodon, then came Mastodon's culture, then came Lemmy.
Mastodon is 60+% of the Fediverse, mastodon.social alone is 20+% of the Fediverse.
Except for Redditors who have escaped to Lemmy and those Japanese and Koreans who discovered Misskey first, literally every single last Fediverse newbie thinks that the Fediverse equals Mastodon. More than half of them still believe that. As in, they don't even understand that their content may end up someplace that isn't Mastodon or that isn't a Twitter clone.
Cool...
That's what I said...
I don't have anything in particular myself. I pretty much get everything I need out of a forum. I guess a good discord option. One that does all the realtime needs the way a forum works for non realtime.
More cute animals
This may be self serving but if someone could maybe contact Mojang and get the Minecraft instance to be an officially recognized Social Media outlet like r/Minecraft is on Reddit, that would be peachy.
Oh and a syncable mobile app
Most of the usage of platform is individual-based and it's a problem. Collective-based interaction, like in the threadiverse, leads to a better sense of community, better organizing, better software that really helps us, etc...
I would like to see more wiki-like usage, where we congregate around topics/subjects/interests and collectively build something with rules we decide ourselves
Lobsters and hackernews.
Lemmy and piefed can be deviated into being used as a single sub instance as an alternative but it's just not the same.
Other than this, we are pretty fine with the basics, it would be nice to have more people working towards letting mods be mods with proper tools without involving CLI.
Also some combo like local first acting as a PDS being able to be written by different softwares. (Basically atproto or solid yes)(yes silverpill and holos are working on this but 2 different people working on 2 different implementation of the hardest thing in the fedi doesn't seem optimal for a network made of devs lol)
I wish there were an art site you could sign up for that let you follow artists on the fediverse and vice versa, but took its UX cues from DeviantArt and Fur Affinity. Discoverability should probably be local-only but I think that would be OK. The separation between artwork and journal entries in the main feed is something I've put into my own single-user server, and it's had such a good effect on my mental state that I would never use the fediverse without it. AO3-style tag hierarchies would be really cool too.
I can think of optional integration to other services as being an useful feature while at the same time relatively friction-free.
Some examples that come to mind that could give some integration ideas are Facebook the company with Threads the social media (but is tarnished by the company itself), Bridgy Fed, Wafrn, and Friendica bridging AT Protocol and ActivityPub (the first one seemingly being very popular), NeoDB allowing cross-referencing and importing entries from other databases and platforms, and RSS Parrot sharing posts from RSS feeds as ActivityPub posts (though sadly in this last one, interactions are one way only).
More interactability between the different fediverse softwares.
i want to send vrml datagrams at each other like i'm the fukken lawnmower man
Amateur porn. Sadly I still have to use twitter for that.
Agreed! Tho lemmy and mastodon work decently well for that already
More not leftists. Some tolerance for not left wing political views would be nice too. (the people I'm talking about will just down vote me because they are part of the intolerant left wing here. There are plenty of tolerant left wing people, but they don't get attention)
I must downvote you because downvoting people who complain about downvotes is my truest calling. I do this knowing that I myself will be downvoted, but deep in your heart you know that this is how it must be.
I upvoted you for downvoting the guy who complained about being downvoted.
Unlikely. The leftists actually put in the work to create and populate an entire alternative Reddit (multiple actually: Lemmy, Piefed, Mbin, nodeBB, etc.). And the rightists too (multiple actually: Truth Social, X, nostr, etc.). If the centrists truly want something, then somebody is going to have to actually make something happen.
you hate the liberals. The progressives are pretty done with them too, to be fair. We only hitch our wagons to them because the alternative is ACTUAL fascists. I'm leftist, and I can assure you that all we want is government that actually functions as a public service and money out of politics. Becoming an elected official should be seen like jury duty, not a career move.
Just remember that the definition of literal has changed over the years. I'm close to the original definition, but nothing like today's.
Hate is too strong a term.