Seems like a no-brainer. You can put on any amount of clothing if the office is too cold, but there's only so much you can take off if it's too hot. Even on casual Friday - found that out the hard way.
Why is it difficult to get it? It’s inconvenient for them. Do you think people need to consult everyone else in the world and make sure that their own personal problem is the worst ever experienced by any human, before being allowed to feel uncomfortable?
Reminds me of a workplace story a friend of mine told me years ago:
On the desk opposite of her there was a colleague who insisted on wearing open shoes without socks to work every day. Due to proper AC that was a bit chilly at the feet so she brought a noisy space heater to warm her feet. And when other people complained about the noise she was shocked about how people could be so selfish and demand that she has to freeze. Could not see any other way out of that dilemma.
nothing compares to working in 112°F under a blazing sun with 75% humidity, zero cloud cover and zero wind.
did I mention you're doing this for 10-12 hours a day while performing complex geometry and handling tools that can cut off your fingers, arms, or legs?
all while the boss is driving site to site in a blast freezer on wheels bitching about why it takes too god damn long to put up some walls or sheet the walls/roof.
sometimes I miss it, most the time I want to forget it.
I got annoyed the other day at work. I work in the offices of a factory. It's 35 Celsius and a lot of hard working people are working next to large ovens and suffering from high heat. A couple of people on the office Teams channel started with comments like "given the temperature we will be organising some cold drinks and ice creams for the office staff"
I would like to see those people try and spend a day on the production lines in this heat.
As someone that's always cold I generally agree. It is rather annoying freezing my ass off when the thermostat is set to 75° F, but that's what fuzzy socks and hoodies are for.
Lucky for me our AC is fucked up, so we open up two windows on each end of the wing to cool down. I'm just beside one of those windows, so even if it's scorching 30+ outside, I'm in shorts and t-shirt inside freezing my balls off in the office.
I’m in the same boat and it really is a predicament. The winter is significantly better but sometimes it’s so cold that if I don’t work harder my fingers and feet start hurting. Then oops I worked too hard and now I’m sweating which is making my feet even colder.
Yeah, I prefer winter(except for when the docks get icey and my forklift can't get traction), because i can always bundle up for it, it's like working in a cooler or freezer.
I forgot how much I hated working in an office. Our desks were directly under the vent, so we'd get blasted with cold air. Sales was off in a corner, where it was too warm for them. No amount of adjusting the thermostat would change their local temperature, but they'd try anyway.
In addition to being climate criminals who should all be stripped of their nice things, people who mandate in-office are often causing personal, physical, suffering.
You do realize the HVAC systems have fans in them right? The problem is these people were complaining that part of the fan blew on them because they were underneath the vent. A fan is not going to solve an issue like that because the fans radiate out and the fins radiate out including down. So in a normal office situation like this you just stick a piece of cardboard up over your desk and it directs the airflow away from your desk very easily. A fan ain't going to do shit.
Disagree, as long as the temps are the same. Sun exposure/UV will sap all the energy out of you and outside work is usually going to be more physically strenuous than whatever you're doing inside
Yeah but the temps never are the same are they? The sun heats the building and unless you've got a fan the entire shift, you have no airflow. Agreed on the UV part tho.
Edit: Lol about the more physical/strenuous part tho.
Warehouses and newer factories are often sheet metal buildings with no insulation and maybe a vent fan by the peak. You often get industrial blowers on the floor but it's still pushing triple digit air at you.
You've got to understand that a foundry is probably the most extreme form of "worked inside," right? I don't think its the lack of aircon making you toasty lol
Right but I have also worked at other factories as well that didn't have AC as well. Before this job, I'd never stayed anywhere more than 2 1/2 years. My ADHD gets bored and tired of people too easily lol so I've had a lot of random experience. I've even worked an air conditioned desk job for a while, absolutely hated it.
Depends on the building. Steel reinforced concrete is brutal in summer, even with some airflow. Brick buildings that were well designed are a lot better.
Our office is chilled like a meat locker meaning lots of us have space heaters under our desks, which in turn make the A/C work harder. It's damn depressing when you're someone who cares about energy conservation, but my joints can't take the cold.
Whereas I would be happy working outside until it's 100* or more.
My company actually realized that an open-plan office with barely controllable AC isn't very attractive in 2026. Now they're looking for a new office so they can get rid of the current one.
Good riddance. The building has a (painted) metal facade so mobile reception is crap and you can hear the espresso machine from every point in the office with perfect clarity.
My office does exactly this, it has the thermostat set as cold as it can, and the sensor is in a cooler and shadier part of our floor (where management sit I believe). The rest of us sit in a glass-paned south-facing death trap that fluctuates between 25°C and 15°C multiple times a day on any sunny days. I work from home most of the time so thank fuck I don't have to experience it during this heatwave.
It also depends on individual people. I’m freezing below 76F 24C, my best friend starts sweating if it gets above 68F 20C. His house is set at 66F 19C, and if I go over, I know I have to bring a jacket, and if he comes over to my house he brings a sweat rag.
It also depends on what you're doing. Id I'm going outside and do something (even just going for a walk) I'm gonna start wearing shorts and t-shirt at around 17°C. If I stay inside playing video games and barely move at all i might wrap myself in a comfy blanket or hoodie even a bit above 20°C (especially with open windows and a nice breeze).
You should buy them some fun headbands as a gift! I'm in the colder sample set and I wear headbands all the time. So does my son. They're super functional.
I have nothing to contribute, but I wanted to complain about my coworkers. They under dress for how chilly the office is kept (76F, which really isn’t chilly) then they blast personal space heaters in their offices while the AC is on. I think it would be fine keeping it on 78 if we had ceiling fans, but for whatever reason I never see those in offices
I don't disagree entirely but removing clothing stops being an option at some point and if I'm expected to get work done I'll be far better at it if the temperature isn't making me miserable
You still don't need to turn the AC up to the point where some people start freezing.
IMHO, it's not the slightest bit unreasonable to just expect everybody in the office to be able to deal with any temperature between 20C (68F) and 24C (75F) without complaining.
Why are US-Americans so stubborn when it comes to metric units? Use ur crappy units in ur country if u like, but on the Internet, most people are NOT from the US and therefore ur numbers mean shit all to us.
Maybe you haven't been on the internet for a very long time, but for the majority of the early internet it was vastly more populous with Americans on most major websites. Also, wouldn't you simply expect people to use the units that they personally are more comfortable with? Also fuck off with your high horse. I agree with skooma_king that your sad spelling is much worse.
It makes my throat sore for days and my coworkers set the AC at 16ºC (60 F) working continuously when it's 21ºC (70 F) outside and raining just because it's Summer.
So, that might be due to your company cheaping out by not having the filters cleaned. Had that problem and as soon as the filters were cleaned, the problem stopped. But yeah, if it's 21 outside, that's a bit mad to keep at 16.
maybe just maybe, the AC also shouldn't be on 24/7 at max powrr, that might skew the need of filter changes to way more faster than the recommended one in the manual because who in their right mind would expect someone to max the AC all the time
In our office building the A/C is on 24/7 at the lowest setting only in the server rooms. The rest of the offices depend on people's preferences. I think they change filters once every two years which isn't frequent enough.
I've been in both — kind of, sort of. At least if it's too cold, you can bundle up (despite how stupid that is). But when one of your coworkers doesn't want it on, and you're then cooking to death... yeah, that's not fun. Same with idiots in public transit who don't let you crack the window open to let air in, because "it's cold/blowing at my head!!". Bitch, go sit somewhere else then or take a taxi.
Huh, I've never been in public transportation where opening a window was an option. All the trains and public buses I've been on (in the U.S.) have windows that are permanently shut.
It depends. On all our old and new tram models the upper part of the window can be cracked open. Not fully, just enough for the breeze and fresh air to get in. Buses have fixed windows that can't be opened. Trains — at least in my home country — vary: old ones you can usually slide the entire window open in the hallway(?), but the cabins, IIRC, have the same mechanism like the trams; new ones have fixed windows, IIRC, but they are also air-conditioned, so it's not a problem.
We use less energy for cooling in the summer than for heating in the winter, and it gets worse because the latter is generally less efficient because that does NOT usually use heat pumps, considering heat pumps are more efficient than just heating with electricity directly (it moves more heat energy than you put in electric energy).
So once you have heat pumps capable of heating installed and ready, to make winter heating more efficient, then it's trivial to flip some valves to let them cool, so what dumbass would then refuse to use them in the summer when it uses less energy?
If you're still concerned about the energy use, then install heat capture tech - because both the energy spent and the energy moved becomes heat on the hot side of the pump, you can just extract that heat and store it in for example water for later use, and now the fraction of energy spent on top what you were already going to use is much smaller still.
And that's assuming you weren't already powering it with solar.
I would install a heat pump if I could afford it (and wasn't renting). Unfortunately I have to make-do with a portable ac that's not powerful enough for my living room.
Funny as I read this while wishing I had brought a hoodie with me to the office. I've been here for 10 minutes and my back is tense and it's going to ruin my acclimation to summer.
With a fan pointed directly at me, I don't need AC when it's 30 degrees inside. A fan per employee would be more efficient than AC, and the world is literally on fire due to our energy consumption.
Even worse than people who just have the AC on when it's not needed (and OK, not everyone is as tolerant to warm temperatures as I am - though I note that I always thought I felt the heat more than most, until I lived in a warm flat and just got used to it) is people who insist on sticking to an extremely low AC temperature.
Everyone can deal with an indoor temperature of 25C, that's literally unproblematic. If you set your AC to below 25 for more than a few days, it's not even for comfort, it's because of ignorance or obstinacy.
This might surprise you but people's perception of temperature varies wildly. 25 degrees for me is fine without clothing, but that's not really an option in the office. I'll survive, but it noticably drains my energy and impairs my ability to work.
Conversely I could say anyone should be fine with 15C inside during winter, but a lot of people would disagree with that too I'd imagine.
I think the vast majority of those people would adapt to 25 degrees (with light clothing!) with enough time. Why? Because until recently, air conditioning didn't exist, yet people all over the world still managed to work through most of the day. Some cultures pause work during the hottest part of the day, but that won't avoid temperatures over 25 degrees in a great many places where temperatures into the 30s are common. Likewise some people would suffer, but I think if those temperatures were genuinely unpleasant for a large part of the population with the available technology, you would see it.
A big factor in my opinion here though is that I used to think similarly, until I spent a hot summer in a warm flat and am now perfectly comfortable at 29 degrees, given a week or two to adjust up to that point. So given that I would have said the same thing 10 years ago, I find it difficult to believe you now without something more.
I have spent every single one of the past 10 summers in a room that did not dip below 25C for a second over those months. Most of the time closer to 30. I still want to die at 25.
My heat sensitivity is definitely abnormal, but I still have to work just like everyone else. Though even our office with barely existent AC is cooler than my apartment at least. What's worse is that the office sometimes gets to 23C in winter which has lead to me wearing shorts whenever it's above 5C outside, because otherwise I suffer in the office.
For me it is and I’m an underweight woman not in menopause. I’m probably an outlier, but I have to imagine if you changed any of those factors, it would be far worse.
When you're used to lower temperatures, it is. Especially indoors where the air can get stuffy pretty quickly depending on room size and number of people.
Seems like a no-brainer. You can put on any amount of clothing if the office is too cold, but there's only so much you can take off if it's too hot. Even on casual Friday - found that out the hard way.
Why is it difficult to get it? It’s inconvenient for them. Do you think people need to consult everyone else in the world and make sure that their own personal problem is the worst ever experienced by any human, before being allowed to feel uncomfortable?
For real. There are starving children in America. Someone always has it worse
There are obese children in America. If they're starving, their parents are doing it on purpose.
Big pet peeve of mine. If you think it's chilly you can put on some clothes, if I run got and think it's hot HR frowns upon me removing my clothes.
Reminds me of a workplace story a friend of mine told me years ago:
On the desk opposite of her there was a colleague who insisted on wearing open shoes without socks to work every day. Due to proper AC that was a bit chilly at the feet so she brought a noisy space heater to warm her feet. And when other people complained about the noise she was shocked about how people could be so selfish and demand that she has to freeze. Could not see any other way out of that dilemma.
nothing compares to working in 112°F under a blazing sun with 75% humidity, zero cloud cover and zero wind.
did I mention you're doing this for 10-12 hours a day while performing complex geometry and handling tools that can cut off your fingers, arms, or legs?
all while the boss is driving site to site in a blast freezer on wheels bitching about why it takes too god damn long to put up some walls or sheet the walls/roof.
sometimes I miss it, most the time I want to forget it.
I got annoyed the other day at work. I work in the offices of a factory. It's 35 Celsius and a lot of hard working people are working next to large ovens and suffering from high heat. A couple of people on the office Teams channel started with comments like "given the temperature we will be organising some cold drinks and ice creams for the office staff"
I would like to see those people try and spend a day on the production lines in this heat.
Too cold is always better than to hot. Period.
Get a hot tea. Put on a sweater. Put on a fucking blanket, I don't care. You can fix being cold. You're just whining.
I can't strip down to my underwear and dunk myself into a cool water bath at work. It's frowned upon.
Exactly. I have been trying to hammer this into peoples heads for years.
its so easy for someone thats cold to throw something over them.
Someone thats hot cant do fuck all but boil in their skin and die.
Also, being moderately too cool is 10000% more comfortable than being even slightly too hot.
As someone that's always cold I generally agree. It is rather annoying freezing my ass off when the thermostat is set to 75° F, but that's what fuzzy socks and hoodies are for.
Lucky for me our AC is fucked up, so we open up two windows on each end of the wing to cool down. I'm just beside one of those windows, so even if it's scorching 30+ outside, I'm in shorts and t-shirt inside freezing my balls off in the office.
Be great full Because you gonna loose nose waitm
Me in my 93°F warehouse in the summer, which is also my 22°warehouse in the winter, for 12 hours a day
I’m in the same boat and it really is a predicament. The winter is significantly better but sometimes it’s so cold that if I don’t work harder my fingers and feet start hurting. Then oops I worked too hard and now I’m sweating which is making my feet even colder.
Yeah, I prefer winter(except for when the docks get icey and my forklift can't get traction), because i can always bundle up for it, it's like working in a cooler or freezer.
I like looking across the warehouse floor everyone is just wearing a long sleeve shirt and steaming.
I forgot how much I hated working in an office. Our desks were directly under the vent, so we'd get blasted with cold air. Sales was off in a corner, where it was too warm for them. No amount of adjusting the thermostat would change their local temperature, but they'd try anyway.
In addition to being climate criminals who should all be stripped of their nice things, people who mandate in-office are often causing personal, physical, suffering.
You needed ceiling fans to help distribute and even out the temperature.
One would consider to switch desk?
Or just a piece of cardboard, like had been used for decades.
A fan would actually solve the problem. But that requires some official decision trying to improve people's life.
How would a fan solve the issue?
By avoiding one place being too cold while another is too hot.
You do realize the HVAC systems have fans in them right? The problem is these people were complaining that part of the fan blew on them because they were underneath the vent. A fan is not going to solve an issue like that because the fans radiate out and the fins radiate out including down. So in a normal office situation like this you just stick a piece of cardboard up over your desk and it directs the airflow away from your desk very easily. A fan ain't going to do shit.
Yeah, noticed the problem with relying on the HVAC's internal fans to do local air circulation?
Into some other place with people too. And certainly not into the hot island, because if the air could easily reach there it wouldn't be a hot island.
The people having to work outside hearing both sides complain:
._.
Inside with no A/C is far worse than outside.
Disagree, as long as the temps are the same. Sun exposure/UV will sap all the energy out of you and outside work is usually going to be more physically strenuous than whatever you're doing inside
I don't experience that personally. I find the constant AC blowing on me fucks me up. Being out in the hot sun feels great. Maybe I'm a reptile....
Yeah but the temps never are the same are they? The sun heats the building and unless you've got a fan the entire shift, you have no airflow. Agreed on the UV part tho.
Edit: Lol about the more physical/strenuous part tho.
If the blinds are closed and there's half decent insulation, and maybe a fan for some airflow, inside can be much nicer.
Offices generally don't have this though, unfortunately
Warehouses and newer factories are often sheet metal buildings with no insulation and maybe a vent fan by the peak. You often get industrial blowers on the floor but it's still pushing triple digit air at you.
Offices also usually have computers and other things adding a bit insignificant amount to that heat.
Still depends. The air usually is better outside as it can get pretty stuffy inside quickly.
-someone who doesn't work outside
I work in a foundry... And I've worked outside. Inside without A/C is far worse.
You've got to understand that a foundry is probably the most extreme form of "worked inside," right? I don't think its the lack of aircon making you toasty lol
Right but I have also worked at other factories as well that didn't have AC as well. Before this job, I'd never stayed anywhere more than 2 1/2 years. My ADHD gets bored and tired of people too easily lol so I've had a lot of random experience. I've even worked an air conditioned desk job for a while, absolutely hated it.
Hmm, foundry. Alright, I'll take your word for it. Thats gotta suck.
It does, but the pay and benefits are too good.
Depends on the building. Steel reinforced concrete is brutal in summer, even with some airflow. Brick buildings that were well designed are a lot better.
Honestly it'd be nice if we could get some solar panels up and shade the roof at the very least.
Why not both? Lots of places set the climate control to insanely low values, which is uncomfortable, promotes respiratory diseases und wastes energy.
Our office is chilled like a meat locker meaning lots of us have space heaters under our desks, which in turn make the A/C work harder. It's damn depressing when you're someone who cares about energy conservation, but my joints can't take the cold.
Whereas I would be happy working outside until it's 100* or more.
I just need to change industries.
My company actually realized that an open-plan office with barely controllable AC isn't very attractive in 2026. Now they're looking for a new office so they can get rid of the current one.
Good riddance. The building has a (painted) metal facade so mobile reception is crap and you can hear the espresso machine from every point in the office with perfect clarity.
My office does exactly this, it has the thermostat set as cold as it can, and the sensor is in a cooler and shadier part of our floor (where management sit I believe). The rest of us sit in a glass-paned south-facing death trap that fluctuates between 25°C and 15°C multiple times a day on any sunny days. I work from home most of the time so thank fuck I don't have to experience it during this heatwave.
It also depends on individual people. I’m freezing below 76F 24C, my best friend starts sweating if it gets above 68F 20C. His house is set at 66F 19C, and if I go over, I know I have to bring a jacket, and if he comes over to my house he brings a sweat rag.
It also depends on what you're doing. Id I'm going outside and do something (even just going for a walk) I'm gonna start wearing shorts and t-shirt at around 17°C. If I stay inside playing video games and barely move at all i might wrap myself in a comfy blanket or hoodie even a bit above 20°C (especially with open windows and a nice breeze).
You should buy them some fun headbands as a gift! I'm in the colder sample set and I wear headbands all the time. So does my son. They're super functional.
I have nothing to contribute, but I wanted to complain about my coworkers. They under dress for how chilly the office is kept (76F, which really isn’t chilly) then they blast personal space heaters in their offices while the AC is on. I think it would be fine keeping it on 78 if we had ceiling fans, but for whatever reason I never see those in offices
Okay, that's more than just mildly irritating. That's massively irritating.
What if they're dressed in a manner of which so they don't have to change when they go back outside?
That still doesn't excuse that level of wastefulness whatsoever. Oh no, a mild inconvenience!
The AC is also part of this wastefulness
I don't disagree entirely but removing clothing stops being an option at some point and if I'm expected to get work done I'll be far better at it if the temperature isn't making me miserable
You still don't need to turn the AC up to the point where some people start freezing.
IMHO, it's not the slightest bit unreasonable to just expect everybody in the office to be able to deal with any temperature between 20C (68F) and 24C (75F) without complaining.
Layers exist
Just carry half your wardrobe around in and out of the office with you every day. It's common sense.
Carrying a long-sleeved shirt with you in case it gets a bit chilly is not unreasonable.
What about a spare pair of shorts in case is warmer outside than the office which requires you to wear pants
I already wear long sleeves to work.
Your fashion sense is your own but you might get a little overheated with half of your wardrobe. Unless you’re a real minimalist
Why are US-Americans so stubborn when it comes to metric units? Use ur crappy units in ur country if u like, but on the Internet, most people are NOT from the US and therefore ur numbers mean shit all to us.
Maybe you haven't been on the internet for a very long time, but for the majority of the early internet it was vastly more populous with Americans on most major websites. Also, wouldn't you simply expect people to use the units that they personally are more comfortable with? Also fuck off with your high horse. I agree with skooma_king that your sad spelling is much worse.
I’d say the way you spell “your” and “you” is more annoying
Subtract 32, divide by nine, and multiply by five.
Or subtract thirty and halve it for a rough estimate
It makes my throat sore for days and my coworkers set the AC at 16ºC (60 F) working continuously when it's 21ºC (70 F) outside and raining just because it's Summer.
16?! That's simply too cool for an office. Gross. My condolences.
In their mind, if there's a setting for 16ºC then it's supposed to be used.
That's idiotic.
So, that might be due to your company cheaping out by not having the filters cleaned. Had that problem and as soon as the filters were cleaned, the problem stopped. But yeah, if it's 21 outside, that's a bit mad to keep at 16.
If it's 21 C / 70 F outside, just leave all A/C and heating off. You don't need them.
maybe just maybe, the AC also shouldn't be on 24/7 at max powrr, that might skew the need of filter changes to way more faster than the recommended one in the manual because who in their right mind would expect someone to max the AC all the time
In our office building the A/C is on 24/7 at the lowest setting only in the server rooms. The rest of the offices depend on people's preferences. I think they change filters once every two years which isn't frequent enough.
I've been in both — kind of, sort of. At least if it's too cold, you can bundle up (despite how stupid that is). But when one of your coworkers doesn't want it on, and you're then cooking to death... yeah, that's not fun. Same with idiots in public transit who don't let you crack the window open to let air in, because "it's cold/blowing at my head!!". Bitch, go sit somewhere else then or take a taxi.
Huh, I've never been in public transportation where opening a window was an option. All the trains and public buses I've been on (in the U.S.) have windows that are permanently shut.
Here's an example of an older tram. In some the window can be cracked open just a little bit, though.
Interesting. I’ve never ridden in a tram, they don’t exist in the parts of the country I’ve lived in.
It depends. On all our old and new tram models the upper part of the window can be cracked open. Not fully, just enough for the breeze and fresh air to get in. Buses have fixed windows that can't be opened. Trains — at least in my home country — vary: old ones you can usually slide the entire window open in the hallway(?), but the cabins, IIRC, have the same mechanism like the trams; new ones have fixed windows, IIRC, but they are also air-conditioned, so it's not a problem.
We use less energy for cooling in the summer than for heating in the winter, and it gets worse because the latter is generally less efficient because that does NOT usually use heat pumps, considering heat pumps are more efficient than just heating with electricity directly (it moves more heat energy than you put in electric energy).
So once you have heat pumps capable of heating installed and ready, to make winter heating more efficient, then it's trivial to flip some valves to let them cool, so what dumbass would then refuse to use them in the summer when it uses less energy?
If you're still concerned about the energy use, then install heat capture tech - because both the energy spent and the energy moved becomes heat on the hot side of the pump, you can just extract that heat and store it in for example water for later use, and now the fraction of energy spent on top what you were already going to use is much smaller still.
And that's assuming you weren't already powering it with solar.
I would install a heat pump if I could afford it (and wasn't renting). Unfortunately I have to make-do with a portable ac that's not powerful enough for my living room.
Heat pumps mentioned, Technology Connections fan spotted
Put your hair up girl!
Yeah! Exorcise my demons!
I've been in both. It just makes the a.c situation even more stupid.
Well, faction possibly. But yes
Funny as I read this while wishing I had brought a hoodie with me to the office. I've been here for 10 minutes and my back is tense and it's going to ruin my acclimation to summer.
With a fan pointed directly at me, I don't need AC when it's 30 degrees inside. A fan per employee would be more efficient than AC, and the world is literally on fire due to our energy consumption.
Even worse than people who just have the AC on when it's not needed (and OK, not everyone is as tolerant to warm temperatures as I am - though I note that I always thought I felt the heat more than most, until I lived in a warm flat and just got used to it) is people who insist on sticking to an extremely low AC temperature.
Everyone can deal with an indoor temperature of 25C, that's literally unproblematic. If you set your AC to below 25 for more than a few days, it's not even for comfort, it's because of ignorance or obstinacy.
This might surprise you but people's perception of temperature varies wildly. 25 degrees for me is fine without clothing, but that's not really an option in the office. I'll survive, but it noticably drains my energy and impairs my ability to work.
Conversely I could say anyone should be fine with 15C inside during winter, but a lot of people would disagree with that too I'd imagine.
I think the vast majority of those people would adapt to 25 degrees (with light clothing!) with enough time. Why? Because until recently, air conditioning didn't exist, yet people all over the world still managed to work through most of the day. Some cultures pause work during the hottest part of the day, but that won't avoid temperatures over 25 degrees in a great many places where temperatures into the 30s are common. Likewise some people would suffer, but I think if those temperatures were genuinely unpleasant for a large part of the population with the available technology, you would see it.
A big factor in my opinion here though is that I used to think similarly, until I spent a hot summer in a warm flat and am now perfectly comfortable at 29 degrees, given a week or two to adjust up to that point. So given that I would have said the same thing 10 years ago, I find it difficult to believe you now without something more.
I have spent every single one of the past 10 summers in a room that did not dip below 25C for a second over those months. Most of the time closer to 30. I still want to die at 25.
My heat sensitivity is definitely abnormal, but I still have to work just like everyone else. Though even our office with barely existent AC is cooler than my apartment at least. What's worse is that the office sometimes gets to 23C in winter which has lead to me wearing shorts whenever it's above 5C outside, because otherwise I suffer in the office.
fair enough
Hahahahaha, what? 25°C indoors is hellish.
4 degrees above standard room temperature is hellish?
For me it is and I’m an underweight woman not in menopause. I’m probably an outlier, but I have to imagine if you changed any of those factors, it would be far worse.
When you're used to lower temperatures, it is. Especially indoors where the air can get stuffy pretty quickly depending on room size and number of people.
30 degrees is below freezing!
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Celsius. That would be 86°F.
That's the joke, champ.
It isn't very funny. (Sorry if my German is showing)
But your reply did make me laugh.
To be fair it was hard to tell if they were joking or just being American. I missed it too.
I was joking and pretending to be an American. I mean, I also am American, but I actually understand SI units.
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