I love the joke, but there is actually a German word for this: Tragikomödie.
It is a compound noun formed by combining Tragödie (tragedy) and Komödie (comedy).
This term was notably used in German Romanticism and later in 20th-century drama (for example like Brecht or Dürrenmatt) to describe works that refuse to fit neatly into a single emotional category.
It technically is that, as well, and I've certainly seen them used to transport things short distances. At a top speed of 15 MPH (unless you know where to find the governor, but even then), it isn't something you'd want to use to bring a bunch of lumber back from the lumber yard. More like bringing a broken towbar to an unresponsive GSE shop so that it can be left on their doorstep to shame them. As a random hypothetical.
Yeah I was thinking if the OP has never seen an airport and these vehicles.
In addition to that belt loader, there are a plethora of different kind of half-cockpit vehicles there. Ofc its easier there as these likely dont need to be registered for road use.
Yup, someone on Lemmy mentioned about needing a pickup truck for work ... I specifically remember that that same day I'd seem three workmen on a single 125cc scooter towing a trailer with tools and a bunch of 2x4s on it.
I've got some big ass American iron too, but it's old and actually worth a shit. Never understood lifts you need and ladder for, and 3' beds. Totally worthless vanity boosters.
Trucks are for doing shit, not hauling your sorry ass to the grocery store.
Exactly. Take a 1989s LWB F250 with crewcab for example - full length bed, carries a work crew, can do a reasonable amount off road, and can be absolutely beaten on for years.
I had a giant metal ladder fall off of the top of a work van and come right at my windshield while I was driving to my own wedding. i barely braked in time, but it had some serious Final Destination vibes. All things considered, I still think that the scariest thing that day was the final bill for the wedding.
good that it worked out at the end. otherwise might have been the worst day of of your wife's life instead of the best.
I'm quiet happy with my weddings Bill. we needed an official interpreter, because we have different mother tongues, which was like 100€ and that's it.
We got pushed into having the large wedding that our parents wanted and what we were told we were "supposed to do". Though it was beautiful, we both regret it. You are being much smarter about it.
I wanted to get one of those tiny grandpa trucks when they were going for like $4k new, but apparently they're illegal everywhere in the US. We're stuck with $60k "entry level" monster trucks.
They're illegal in some places, but I think they're mostly fine. The deal is you can't import a foreign made car unless it's more than 25 years old, so the poor American car companies don't have to compete.
The real scam is the importers get 'em in Japan for a couple hundred bucks at auction, haul 'em over here and sell 'em for 8k plus. They're pretty rad, but parts can be kind of a bitch.
Cool! But I'm struggling with the title of the article. This cab truck was the most single ever? There were other cab trucks that were single, but this one was the most single of them all? Am I misreading this somehow, or is that title just weird?
Single cab trucks prioritize cargo space over seating space, generally having only a single bench seat that fits 2 adults and a child, or three often uncomfortable adults. This truck prioritizes cargo space to a much greater degree, having only a single seat, so it's aggressively "single cab".
Yeah I get that, but the wording of the title is weird right? They could have used different words making it a better sentence right? Or is it just me?
"This single cab truck has the highest bed to cab ratio."
It would "work", but it would be aerodynamically unstable so would be limited to low speeds (<~25mph). This is why this configuration is quite common in construction/industry site machinery, where high speeds are unnecessary and unsafe.
I used to work at a furniture factory and we got all our steel delivered in a truck with this configuration. 8m and 10m lengths on the shortest possible wheelbase. No backseat though.
As someone else already mentioned, these do exist but you don't see them on the road because it usually easier to just get a bigger truck without all the quirks.
One issue for a vehicle allowed in traffic is that ypu typically can't have things sticking too far out of the vehicle in any direction lest someone drives into them. Thus long haulage is put on long beds, even when not very heavy.
Advantages of long beds is also that you can better secure your load along the length, can use standardised vehicles and parts, as well as have an easier time with load balancing and view management.
The drivetrain doesn't have a place to live. The nose of a truck holds the guts, freeing up space for load in the other half. Moving the guts to a cab-over would shrink the available engine size. Having all the power train to one side would require entirely new engineering to have 2 double length axles with no counter spinning force, so torque on the frame would twist the chassis up at the far point like a lever.
Or it would be underpowered to prevent it, effectively a kei truck engine in a full sized truck body. It is going to work much harder in some way to be as successful as existing trucks.
In a collision, you are much safer if you are facing backwards because your spine aligns with the back of the seat instead of you rag-dolling forwards. So turn those seats around, too. The design is very human.
Funny. I was thinking how cool it would be if an EV truck with a frunk had a midgate, fold down front passenger seat, and ability to open the dash somehow to pass though very long things into trunk area.
The Bollinger B1 and B2 were supposed to have exactly that. A central passthrough all the way from the back of the bed to the front bumper. You would have been able to haul 20' lumber entirely within the vehicle.
Of course, their $125k price point for a no-frills electric work truck was twice as much as three-row luxury SUV pretty much doomed them from the start. If they had targeted a price point suitable for fleet operations, we'd all be driving them.
I did recall vaguely something like that, but couldn't remember what it was, thanks for that.
But absolutely, especially if you had something like a 4.5 foot bed normally, but between frunk pass through and tailgate with load stop you could carry some 16 foot long planks... Something you might rarely need to do and not with a lot of planks, so a huge bed is pointless most of the time.
No more than one computer.
Rolling chassis frame with a hitch.
Left hand drive.
Good HVAC with front and rear vents.
Physical controls for everything, giant central screen, no cellular.
A port made entirely of air? Who do you think I am, some kind of idiot?!
No, it's Japanese so the port side is on the right.
Fun fact! The literal translation of airport in Japanese is 'sky harbour'
It's the same in English...
If you have two words and exchange both with synonyms, it's a new word
penis skull
Cock cranium
In Afrikaans too. Probably in a lot of languages
Yes, including english
In Swedish it is "Flying Place".
Wait, are port and starboard reversed in Japan?
No, but it seemed like it would make a good joke at the time.
Introducing the new Apple AirPort
That's what I'm calling vents from now on
How hot are your apples getting?
I'd estimate they've reached 3, maybe as high as 4.
Sometimes you come up with a genius idea only to realize you've reinvented the train.
Honestly take these as wins. Clearly it was a good idea.
... or just pulled the idea from subconscious memory...
I thought I invented the word "tragicomedy"
The Germans invented it first, with 'tragikkomeßdykompenbursteißn' *
*disclaimer: not 100% sure
I love the joke, but there is actually a German word for this: Tragikomödie.
It is a compound noun formed by combining Tragödie (tragedy) and Komödie (comedy).
This term was notably used in German Romanticism and later in 20th-century drama (for example like Brecht or Dürrenmatt) to describe works that refuse to fit neatly into a single emotional category.
It's apparently attested since at least the 2nd century BCE; Roman playwright Plautus is usually credited with coining the term.
Adam Something, is that you?
Convergent evolution
How do you move the planes around if the entire tarmac is filled with these? Seems a little impractical.
you will notice the tires that enable movement;)
I think you are thinking of belt loaders, which have a long flat bed on them.
Except, BAM - it’s not a flat bed, it’s a moving conveyor belt that is raised to carry the bags and cargo from those carts into the plane.
Unless you’re thinking of something else. But I think you’re thinking of something like this:
Or, it's a self unloading flat bed ;)
It technically is that, as well, and I've certainly seen them used to transport things short distances. At a top speed of 15 MPH (unless you know where to find the governor, but even then), it isn't something you'd want to use to bring a bunch of lumber back from the lumber yard. More like bringing a broken towbar to an unresponsive GSE shop so that it can be left on their doorstep to shame them. As a random hypothetical.
Yeah I was thinking if the OP has never seen an airport and these vehicles.
In addition to that belt loader, there are a plethora of different kind of half-cockpit vehicles there. Ofc its easier there as these likely dont need to be registered for road use.
I've seen so many different types and makes.
Hmm, makes sense.
You'd need a long bed to transport the planes.
Clearly designed by someone who hasn't used a pickup truck to it's real potential.
Yeah, this isn't rocket surgery
Also, yay for an actual work truck, and not one of the weird oversize impractical monstrosities that so many people seem to swoon over these days
I heard a real kicker recently. It was something like
Best instagram roast of a modern truck guy I've ever seen.
They were arguing on a post about that guy's massive grocery getter where he was defending the purchase, as usual.
Yup, someone on Lemmy mentioned about needing a pickup truck for work ... I specifically remember that that same day I'd seem three workmen on a single 125cc scooter towing a trailer with tools and a bunch of 2x4s on it.
Hahah brilliant
My dad and his workmates just use a VW Sharan for construction work. By the stuff they do to it, it's impressive that all 4 wheels are still attached.
It always baffles me when people say they NEEEEDED to buy a new work truck when I see how dad uses their sharan at work.
Yup. At work back home the security guys have new big pickups ... they literally never ever ever have to carry stuff or go off road.
Meanwhile where I'm working under contract, the security guys have small capacity motorbikes yet manage to be more intimidating (their main purpose)
careful!
Meh, it's water under the fridge
I've got some big ass American iron too, but it's old and actually worth a shit. Never understood lifts you need and ladder for, and 3' beds. Totally worthless vanity boosters.
Trucks are for doing shit, not hauling your sorry ass to the grocery store.
Exactly. Take a 1989s LWB F250 with crewcab for example - full length bed, carries a work crew, can do a reasonable amount off road, and can be absolutely beaten on for years.
That, I can respect.
final destination vibes
I had a giant metal ladder fall off of the top of a work van and come right at my windshield while I was driving to my own wedding. i barely braked in time, but it had some serious Final Destination vibes. All things considered, I still think that the scariest thing that day was the final bill for the wedding.
good that it worked out at the end. otherwise might have been the worst day of of your wife's life instead of the best. I'm quiet happy with my weddings Bill. we needed an official interpreter, because we have different mother tongues, which was like 100€ and that's it.
We got pushed into having the large wedding that our parents wanted and what we were told we were "supposed to do". Though it was beautiful, we both regret it. You are being much smarter about it.
i know that in many countries this is very often the case.
I strap my shit good. This is pre-tie down. Plus I was just going a couple blocks in town.
I thought the roof was attached to the truck and it was like a mobile hangout
Make a little birdhouse in your truck
Chicken coop.
I wanted to get one of those tiny grandpa trucks when they were going for like $4k new, but apparently they're illegal everywhere in the US. We're stuck with $60k "entry level" monster trucks.
They're illegal in some places, but I think they're mostly fine. The deal is you can't import a foreign made car unless it's more than 25 years old, so the poor American car companies don't have to compete.
The real scam is the importers get 'em in Japan for a couple hundred bucks at auction, haul 'em over here and sell 'em for 8k plus. They're pretty rad, but parts can be kind of a bitch.
ceci n'est pas une truck
Et les "kei trucks"? N'est-ce pas un truck?
Non, ce sont longues autos. /s
OMG I love this Korpiklaani song!!!
https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-most-single-cab-truck-ever-was-built-to-haul-construction-materials
Cool! But I'm struggling with the title of the article. This cab truck was the most single ever? There were other cab trucks that were single, but this one was the most single of them all? Am I misreading this somehow, or is that title just weird?
Single cab trucks prioritize cargo space over seating space, generally having only a single bench seat that fits 2 adults and a child, or three often uncomfortable adults. This truck prioritizes cargo space to a much greater degree, having only a single seat, so it's aggressively "single cab".
Yeah I get that, but the wording of the title is weird right? They could have used different words making it a better sentence right? Or is it just me?
"This single cab truck has the highest bed to cab ratio."
Like that for example?
Yeah it's using the phrase "single cab truck" as a single adjective.
That is so wild!!!
Then you could add forklift forks and you have a sideloader!
That thing looks like a contraption I built in besiege or some game like that
It may be because a large enough load could quickly block the driver's left-side mirror.
Oooh, another thing is that a heavy enough load may imbalance the vehicle enough to make it unsafe on turns.
Anyone see anything else?
Yeah, non uniform suspension or adaptive suspension might be important.
Probably not a good idea for 70 miles per hour but it might be a kick ass farm truck
That was my first thought. Either the load will make it uneven, or the lack of load will. Also, very weird wind resistence at speed.
But fine at low speed
Large enough load would escape when braking. No wall up front. Add one and visibility goes to shit.
Heavy enough people? Take a 300lb person in the front and a 200lb person in the back and you're gonna have a bad time making a quick turn
With a big enough load, the driver's entire left-side visibility could be blocked.
A enough load would block the entire left window. the driver would be unable to see to their left.
Wouldn't wind resistance be a problem that higher speeds?
Like with 30km/h, it probably doesn't matter but 90km/h? Idk.
My first thought was weight distribution, but I imagine there's suspension technology these days to account for that.
Yard trucks are just a minor evolution away
Probably bad aerodynamic. Don't they use something like that on the airport? Since they don't drive far, aerodynamics are probably not that important.
I'd imagine if you're transporting long, heavy things, you wouldn't want to drive too fast anyway.
Depends on what you consider too fast, is driving the speed limit outside of a town "too fast"?
Depending on the load, it might be, a lot of factors there.
True but I wouldn't want to catch the wind when driving speed limit outside of the village
Those aren’t used for transport, they are mobile conveyors for loading things into the belly.
You joke but this is basically what a vintage British Bus looks like, except the non-cab side is for the Engine.
Multicar M24 too
I think an electric variant could fit a larger, irregular bed or more likely, optionally extend the existing one with a flap
there's one parked in my street and for sale. it brings up a smile every time I walk by.
It would "work", but it would be aerodynamically unstable so would be limited to low speeds (<~25mph). This is why this configuration is quite common in construction/industry site machinery, where high speeds are unnecessary and unsafe.
But why not make the windscreen the width of the vehicle, maybe wrap it around a bit. Should be similar in aerodynamics?
Sure! But at that point you might as well just have a minivan with the seats folded down or removed
You could put spoilers on it.
Because the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
Source: 'Merica!
That's one of the few things where the US actually follows most of the world!
You inspired me to fix it:
Points for a non-AI fix.
Amazing
I wouldn't be surprised if they start putting them in the middle
It also looks like it's a Kei car. We don't do smart things like that here.
I used to work at a furniture factory and we got all our steel delivered in a truck with this configuration. 8m and 10m lengths on the shortest possible wheelbase. No backseat though.
Cybertruck designer here: Just had a huge whipper (subscription based), some dishwasher style metal pannels, and we can sell these babies for 200k.
I've already preordered
I bought it before Elon went crazy btw
You mean before he stopped paying his PR team enough money for them to drown out the obvious craziness he was manifesting.
Not a Cybertruck you didn't.
By the time those went on sale, his crazy was very much showing for all to see.
You can use that excuse in other Teslas, but not for a Cybertruck.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/the-most-single-cab-truck-ever-was-built-to-haul-construction-materials
Looks very similar to our yard mules
Beautifully silly
Don't you hate it when you have a genius idea, only to find out someone else thought of it long ago? Nice try, Einstein. Back to the sandbox.
soo ... a tiny yarddog?
1960 DeKalb Lumberjack
Save the Clicks
As someone else already mentioned, these do exist but you don't see them on the road because it usually easier to just get a bigger truck without all the quirks.
One issue for a vehicle allowed in traffic is that ypu typically can't have things sticking too far out of the vehicle in any direction lest someone drives into them. Thus long haulage is put on long beds, even when not very heavy.
Advantages of long beds is also that you can better secure your load along the length, can use standardised vehicles and parts, as well as have an easier time with load balancing and view management.
Aksually If you hang a red flag off of it. It becomes legal.
The drivetrain doesn't have a place to live. The nose of a truck holds the guts, freeing up space for load in the other half. Moving the guts to a cab-over would shrink the available engine size. Having all the power train to one side would require entirely new engineering to have 2 double length axles with no counter spinning force, so torque on the frame would twist the chassis up at the far point like a lever.
Or it would be underpowered to prevent it, effectively a kei truck engine in a full sized truck body. It is going to work much harder in some way to be as successful as existing trucks.
the first-gen honda acty this drawing is obviously based on had its engine under the bed. i don't see why that wouldn't work here.
Flat six below deck
If it were electric, you could put the battery on the bed side.
You could easily squeeze 200 horsepower into a vehicle of this size.
Already exsists:
1960 DeKalb Lumberjack
Reminds me of this absolute monstrosity
It could probably hold 3-4 pallets, if it wasn't a drawing
Would be perfekt for jousting, if it wasn’t a drawing
Another case where vans are the superior utility vehicle: strap your long stuff onto your roof rack.
My minivan can carry items up to 17ft long on the inside, if you arrange it properly, going all the way from the back gate to the windshield.
1st gen Chevy volt will hold a 10" item that way :)
You can get this functionality by driving a hatchback and putting the passenger seat down. Those cars fit way more than you would think.
In a collision, you are much safer if you are facing backwards because your spine aligns with the back of the seat instead of you rag-dolling forwards. So turn those seats around, too. The design is very human.
If this appeals to you then check out the Telo truck
Funny. I was thinking how cool it would be if an EV truck with a frunk had a midgate, fold down front passenger seat, and ability to open the dash somehow to pass though very long things into trunk area.
The Bollinger B1 and B2 were supposed to have exactly that. A central passthrough all the way from the back of the bed to the front bumper. You would have been able to haul 20' lumber entirely within the vehicle.
Of course, their $125k price point for a no-frills electric work truck was twice as much as three-row luxury SUV pretty much doomed them from the start. If they had targeted a price point suitable for fleet operations, we'd all be driving them.
I did recall vaguely something like that, but couldn't remember what it was, thanks for that.
But absolutely, especially if you had something like a 4.5 foot bed normally, but between frunk pass through and tailgate with load stop you could carry some 16 foot long planks... Something you might rarely need to do and not with a lot of planks, so a huge bed is pointless most of the time.
Silverado EV has a midgate passthrough, but no folding front seat or dash.
I would fucking by the real version of that.
conditions:
No more than one computer.
Rolling chassis frame with a hitch.
Left hand drive.
Good HVAC with front and rear vents.
Physical controls for everything, giant central screen, no cellular.
Welvin Da Great called and is asking whether his friends Candice and Dick can fit in the truck.
I also had this truck idea. I've seen at least one real version of such a thing.
Similar to a Long Tom/Island Cab truck.