Majority of Android users aren't sold on Gemini Intelligence, survey reveals
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i dont want to use AI at all, anywhere, lol. google/samsung tried to force bixby down our throats and now they're doing the same with Gemini. i dont want any part of it!!!!
Ngl, ai isnt a problem atleast for me, i use ai locally on my phone and it's just better for asking something, brainstorming etc.. But companies pushing ai where its not needed is the shitty thing
Ok Grandpa.
I'd take a semi-aware grandpa any time over a completely tech-oblivious, doom-scrolling facebook-and-X-twat 😁
Go do some vibe coding ya neckbeard.
I prefer paying people to do that, but thanks.
So just a hypocrite then.
Brother, its okay not to be okay. Theres help for everyone out there.
Trolls gonna troll. This here is what we call a false equivalency. Paying to have a person use their skills to complete a complex technical task with liability is far different from using an environment destroying, unreliable and insecure technology that carries no liability to do a worse job. One funds a person that will circulate that income, the other goes to a mega Corp where a billionaire will sleep on that money like an IRL Smaug.
You're cute. Are you available as a plushie?
Yes
So just a troll then.
Spotted the AI loving troglodyte
Elon? where?
Actually the bandwagon shifted and it's you on the wrong side LMAO fucking lemmings.
You fucking wish, loser
You're the lemming though. You're the one who jumped on the bandwagon.
Why not fuck off back to reddit, then?
Wild that people just casually admit to outsourcing their thinking to a machine. I'd never willing post something that embarrassing. Butlerian Jihad Now.
I'm not going to lie I use AI. It is better then search for looming things up. And I have vibe coded a few niche things for myself.
Go back to candles and charcoal pencil on tree bark then. Take it all the way, you are against all forms of technological improvement while communicating online. Your hypocrisy is leaking.
Nah you just have innovation bias. Newer does not automatically mean better. That’s a wild take in 2026 since all of these companies have been marching towards enshitification for a decade.
Plenty of research showing that use of AI is just offloading your cognitive function. We know enough about neuroplasticity to clearly see this will impair those who use it for everything. It’s important to be challenged sometimes, the illusion of intelligence does nothing for us.
Your brain is leaking
That implies there's something to leak.
yea but have you tried it?
i’ve been doing so for a week and i feel smarter already
no, maybe I'm prejudiced against rocks
*grandma, you ugly bitch :)
Ok Claude.
You'd think someone as artistic as you would understand how insane it is to blindly accept AI.
Artistic? I see nothing in their posts to prove that they haven't been reposting from other sources or straight up posting slop. Not that post history is everything, I'm not one to post myself, but based on the pro-AI stance, I am fully willing to believe the latter.
I gave them the benefit of doubt instead of accusing them without evidence.
Like....what?
Exactly, we don't need it for anything. I have zero tasks that I need automation for on my phone. In fact, I have typically zero tasks that I need to do on my phone at all.
You know what tasks I actually NEED to do? I need to mow my back yard, and I need to install gutters on my house. AI is not going to help any of that, so it's useless for my needs. Meanwhile, it is wasting a fortune in energy and an environmental crisis worth of water.
But AI could totally tell you the top rated lawn mowers in stock in your area based on fake bought and paid for reviews to optimize your efficiency at mowing your lawn and increasing the capitalist profit margins of local stores that pay Google for increased foot traffic to their stores.
"Need" really imposes some incredibly urgent something.
I actually do love automation, but why use ai for that? Macrodroid, tasker, automate.... But hey, they NEED us to need it.
Back when I used an iPhone, I had a few automations through Shortcuts, but nothing critical. Then I got a Pixel, put Graphene on it, and started learning how Android works. At the same time I went all in on Home Assistant over Alexa.
It's been over a year now, so I figured I'd see what I can automate between my phone and my house.
The short answer is: nothing.
There is absolutely nothing that I need my phone to do automatically. Not a single task I need it to accomplish on my behalf.
I saw a post on Reddit a few weeks ago in the Tasker sub. A guy was talking about how one of his automations was to send a randomly selected affirmation or quote from some website to each of his loved ones at 7am. I'm still not quite over that level of psychopathy. The notion that the correct way to show affection is to have an automation randomly select a message to send them every morning.
The only 2 tasks that have been worth automating for me on my phone is time-based volume/vibration switching and VPN turn-on and off when I am on home internet or away.
No need to steal people's water to do it.
Paying for parking in my city requires a phone.
You either have to use the QR code, a text message, or call a line with an auto-attendant. There is no physical kiosk on the street to use.
AI could be useful if it could orchestrate more complex tasks that the relevant apps don't natively support. But of course that's not what we're getting.
I use lots and lots of timers every day to structure my chores and work. For example, I'd sometimes love to be able to start one timer, and have another one set to automatically start as soon as I stop the ringing from the first (which might take a few minutes).
Very simple requirements, but specialized enough that I'd have to write it myself. But I can't see phone AIs supporting something like this in this decade.
Set a 5 minute timer
That’s really it.
Wow. Is this possible nowadays? What a time to be alive. But can it be also a 10m timer? What about 1m? I'm skeptical...
It depends. 10 is okay. 15 is usually fine.
14 minutes has a 50/50 chance of being 40 minutes.
See? I knew it was half-assed. But maybe i can download an extra 14-min-timer-app?
Like stuff. Don't worry about it. AI will take care of everything. Now shut up and let us announce 20 more datacenters in peace.
Stuff you say? That's the thing I like most! I'm so exited. We need more data centers!
Stop thinking. AI will do it for you. Just offload all thought and skill to our machines and believe whatever they say.
Browsing Lemmy 😁
So it could do that for me? That'd be awesome, wouldn't even need my phone for that anymore!
"Gemini, do everything I would've done on this phone today, so I can do something else, like plowing your mom or do my taxes".
I love the future!
Commercial for AI: Now you can order a cake while planning your child's birthday and sending an email to your boss while printing the tickets for your trip to Italy!
My unemployed ass, sitting around in boxers eating cereal at 10PM watching cartoons from the 90's: Sweet, this is gonna change my life!
Lol. It sure will change all our lifes. Maybe just not the way we expect it....
What a typical phone user does on their phone?
Influencers may be using their phone more for editing and filming, but that is it.
Nothing I can think of would benefit from AI. Maybe trading, but that AFAIK is a terrible idea.
Edit: Forgot messaging. AI doesn't help with this one much either.
One of my broker gives me AI-advice on trading. And yeah, that is reaaaaaaly a bad idea 😂
Chat, you forgot chat. But yes, that's about. Nothing AI could do for me, even if I really really really wanted it to.
I guess they don't even know themselves but are forced to market the shit. And usually people will just gulp down what gets pushed into their throat, digitally.
AI trading assistant for everyone is an absolutely excellent concept!
It allows you to directly control the market by having the "AI" tell masses what you want them to push for. Best part - doesn't even need to be AI, you can just claim it's the AI that generates your "advices" and take no responsibility for your own orchestrations.
Absolutely amazing, you no longer have to fool people into performing certain actions like Trump is doing. You just tell them directly.
Hehe, yeah maybe even like that. I would not even lift an eyebrow if that came out. I'd guess a lot of people actually follow those advices...look at eToro (if they're still alive).
I used it on long drive this week to find local NPR stations. It was actually pretty good at that.
Then I asked it to reroute me using a different road and it said it couldn't do that lmao. Also couldn't understand that I wanted to find the next Wendy's on my route despite clearly stating that multiple times. Just kept telling me to backtrack to go to random Wendy's in the area.
So basically worthless except for finding npr stations. And even then it would vomit out a bunch of irrelevant info like the station ID and what kind of content they have. Like dude I don't care, I just asked for the fucking frequency ffs.
The use case for AI assistants seems to be reserving tables at a restaurant.
If that would spare me a human interaction then that'd be considered a plus! At least.
can it block ads in the iphone
can't block anything essential. "iphones" are the ad in itself :)
Its my computer device. Only I should have say on what shit is installed on it and runs on it.
Which is exactly why there's also an effort to kill home computer ownership. Capitalists hate all the pesky competition they have to compete with that makes their enshitified products look like shit.
Gemini is fucking garbage, it's useless as an assistant and Google destroyed Assistant which could do genuinely helpful things like navigate hands free, set timers reliably and without Internet connections, set calendar reminders, etc.
Try to use voice commands to navigate now?
Gemini tells you to use the Maps app.
Fuck you Gemini, that's not helpful at all.
Get your shit together Google.
The funny thing is there's no reason for it to be so shitty just because they use Gemini for it. LLMs can use tools if given access. There's no reason they can't give it a tool to use intents to launch activities. I can run their own open weight Gemma model in llama.cpp and I'm pretty sure it can call tools.
Lately I feel like Google or Microsoft could pay me like a million a year and I could single-handedly fix their most broken products and the AI doesn't even have to go. Teams? Don't care how much tracking they put in it, it can be made more performant and the UI can be made usable. Gemini? Could legitimately be fixed to do everything the old Google assistant did and more. Outlook though? Yeah that one has to go. No saving it anymore.
Add some keyword along the lines "Tell Google Assistant to..."
You can't tell Google Assistant shit anymore, they killed it to force people to use Gemini, which is objectively terrible as an assistant.
I know, that's why my suggestion for improving Gemini was that they should add an option to go back to Assistant.
Ah, I thought you meant as in tricking Gemini to use Assistant somehow. Yeah, that would be great. It's insane they got rid of it at all but Google loves killing cool/useful shit.
I'm still salty about Photosphere.
Honestly, with all the salt I have about them, I'm worried about my kidneys. I had my gripes with Assistant and didn't personally use it much, but for hands-free operation, for example listening and responding to text messages without having to look away from the road, it was really useful.
Recently, when my wife tried answering a message, her phone apparently just responded "You seem upset" and ended the conversation. I guess that was a self-fulfilling prophecy...
I rely on Android Auto in my commute. A couple of weeks ago maps wasn't displaying correctly, so I rebooted my phone. All of a sudden assistant was replaced... 30km later I pulled over and switched it back.
If I'm writing an SMS, I want it written, not start a dialogue with some temu hal9000 clone.
It's really good at setting alarms. That's all I've ever used it for. It sets multiple alarms so I don't have to fiddle with the annoying alarm clock interface on my phone.
It has become reasonably OK at setting alarms somewhat recently, unless you don't have Internet, then it is totally fucking useless. Assistant would reliably set alarms, no problem, along with a ton of other useful things like calendar events, reminders, texts, etc.
It would also set alarms without needing an Internet connection. Gemini is vastly inferior to Assistant when it comes to actually doing anything I want it to do.
It's cool how they've broken assistant so badly that commands like "Call Mom" and "Set a timer for 20 minutes" no longer work for me the majority of the time.
I tried to set a reminder yesterday and is proceeded to search Google for "set a reminder for 9pm". AI is making my phone less useful and it's infuriating. Even worse, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I guess it depends on geminis mood?
What's worse is they've added it to Android Auto. A couple days ago I told it to call my wife and it proceeded to search for local businesses containing my wife's name.
Luckily you can disable it... For now!
It's awesome that one of the best features of my TV, "Find my remote" has been completely broken. Paid extra for the fancy Bluetooth remote and everything, and now it's completely worthless. Every time I ask, I get "Sorry, I'm not set up to do that" despite it being something that I've been doing the past 5 years without issue
"Set an alarm" is similarly totally fucked now. I used to use the Google assistant for simple stuff like that, but now it's way easier to just open the clock app and set the reminder myself. Then they added a widget/shortcut to identify the song playing in the room, and now I don't need the assistant at all.
That is the worst about it. They have made it worse. Sure it might be able to "do more" but I don't want the more I want it to be able to navigate to places by voice send a text and call people. Oh my God is calling people so bad. They are not in your contacts because it thinks I said something different.
I used to use Google Home speaker for a grocery list.
It's handy but like is that the reason I have an always listening device in my home? Is that all it can do?? That was before they removed features from the list commands. Jesus wept, good riddance
If your assistant is alexa, you can disable alexa plus and it'll go back to the original non-LLM backend.
I only use amazon products when I have no other options. I use google assistant, which was the only voice assistant I ever felt was even vaguely competent.
It used to be able to do some very useful stuff, like setting location-based reminders, but they've slowly been pulling functionality out and I'm sure I won't have an option between it and gemini for much longer.
I'll never forget; 2014, iOS 8 had just come along with some huge advances in Siri. I'm driving across West London to pick up my wife, who's just text me about something. I figured I'd reply by dictating the message to Siri.
After five attempts and absolutely zero success, I just pulled over and tapped out a text.
Apart from setting the odd timer, I don't think I ever used Siri again after that. Not on purpose, any way.
The desperate forced adoption of "AI" seems more like rape than marketing.
The majority of people's issue with AI is that it's an unhelpful level of competence. It's obviously advanced enough that it isn't just a basic automation tool while at the same time being stupid enough that you would never trust its output. This puts it in an awkward cultural point where it's use is effectively nullified by its own incapabilities.
Essentially I spend about as much time fact checking it as it would if I just done the task myself.
I swear we were told when all this started the AI was going to bring about a cultural revolution give us Star Trek replicators and warp drive.
AI is like a 5 year old that can write perfect english, is really good at arguing his point but totally lacks self reflection skills and likes to make up stuff.
Tbf 5 years could really argue their point if you just believe they are not 5. Something about having infinite confidence.
LLMs are just knowledge replicators. There are multiple Star Trek episodes that feature this kind of technology without any actuall intelligence but incredibly good at replicating preexisting knowledge and experiences.
Like the Drone that Picard encountered where he lived an entire life in a civilisation that had died long ago. Or basically all Holodeck Episodes.
Still actual intelligence with creative thought is something somehow different.
I disabled Gemini. But unfortunately they tied a whole host of features I really liked about my phone to that fucking thing. And now they're all unusable. Google has effectively made themselves useless to me. There is now literally no point in having Android over any other OS that exists.
Good news for you, iOS' Siri will now be Gemini
I never wanted AI on my phone, period. I don't care which one. The Google Assistant was more than enough, if not too much. Never got asked if I wanted any of this shit, it was just forcefully added into every fucking thing.
My old ass phone, Google pushed out AI. (I plan to swap to GrapheneOS soon). It's less useful than Assistant. And features are disappearing.
My Windows 10 PC... fucking AI added. To be honest, never opened it.
Because I use Android Auto when driving, technically, thanks to Google, I have AI there too. And as stated, it's less functional than the original assistant.
Drive-thru... AI. It's slower and less accurate than a person. Only upside, because it doesn't have a budget mic from the 1980's it's clearer than a person.
Work... AI. Co-Pilot for VSCode, as a tool, it's fine, get's a lot wrong. But I had some upper manager claim they recreated DoorDash in like 5 minutes with AI (clearly they didn't). We just had a recent wave of layoffs (I survived). But they are monitoring AI usage to ensure we use enough per month...
News?... AI. Both good or bad news about it, I'm just so fucking sick of the exact same things. Trump, AI, Trump, AI, Trump, AI... that's all it is, all the time. Just how both are fucking everyone.
About 30% of my interactions with Google assistant were me asking for a joke, 20% ended in frustration that it didn't accomplish whatever task I hoped to do hands-free, 40% getting pissed at it responding to "okay" when it wasn't supposed to and 10% that it didn't respond when I wanted it to.
Eventually I turned off the voice activation entirely, and my number of interactions since has sharply decreased.
Now I'm throwing it out entirely.
Tokenmaxxing for the win
lol k
Why would anyone do that ?
Seems its just an answer still searching for a question.
To save you all some time, this is the poll.
"Aren't sold yet" from the title seems to imply the yellow section, not the red. Almost as if it's going to be shoved down our throat no matter how we feel about it. Not that there's been any doubt about that, but the article title is certainly telling about the bias of this article...
"Aren't sold" would be the yellow plus the red. It doesn't imply that they are still open to being sold on it.
It certainly implies that they can be sold. That they're a commodity to be bartered and not individuals with their own minds. That their decision can be bought and sold rather than convinced.
Use android and don't have any of this enabled. That's not to say I'm an anti-Ai purist. If I want to do a query I open an app and then close it when I'm done. This work flow just works so much better than having some sort of constant monitoring trying to be available when not needed. From Clippy to Gemini the idea of lurking pro-active Ai assistance has failed. This needs to be a pull function not a push.
I'm mostly an anti-AI purist.
It just gets too much wrong, too often, to really be used with any regularity for me. I do use it for a few technical things, but only if the added time required for validation still nets out well for my own efficiency.
Big woop. Over the last year or so, it moved from "can reliably set a timer" to having to yell at it, multiple times, crossing an unexpected amount of hurdles, to get it to maybe understand that you want to set a timer, and god forbids that you want it with a specific name and duration. Oh, and the icing on the cake : it worked perfectly when it was locally running on the phone, and started going downhill when they pulled the plug on that.
I wonder why people aren't sold on such wonderful tech.
All this chatgpt and Gemini etc shit is a front to get government surveillance Ai data centers built.
None of this is about us, it's about New government and transitioning to a modern digital age of profiling, surveillance, and control.
We are being played out.
It's like nuclear arms race for the future control of the world.
God is dead. Universe is dead. We are slaves already and our last thread of connection to natural humanity and essence is going to be taken.
And everyone that complains about it helped fund it for decades buying all the stupid shit that they never needed to entertain themselves instead of seeking truth.
Even the debates against chatgpt etc are a distraction... They are building the surveillance state while everyone complains.... Because they know that's how psychology works.
I wouldn't doubt it if some of the healthcare info hacks happening are sponsored and that data is being used to beta their new profiling. Kind of like how they torrented for llm.
I can not for the life of me figure out a single problem or need I have in my life where the solution is "more technology".
I could not care less. I'm at zero Kelvin for technology. Nothing's moving, there's no interaction, I do not care.
But what about shareholders?
Again, add this to the 'no shit' bag
Lmk when AI can clean my house and do my dishes.
Then i might be interested, maybe.
I'd rather sit and play guitar while AI does the dishes than do dishes while AI generates music.
I totally agree with you, but that problem is way harder to solve than LLMs and music generation.
We got LLMs and music/image generators first because there's so much written information, music recordings, and images to train models on. There's practically zero data about how your body moves when you're washing dishes and what it looks like in the sink, what a dirty plate looks like or a clean one, so we can't just train robots to do it yet except in extremely specified environments with as few variables as possible.
There's a lot of advancement in this area, trying to solve these problems. Robotics is a very exciting field of advancement these days. Automated dish cleaning machines exist that don't use AI, but they're industrial and expensive. If you want something that uses dawn, a sponge, elbow grease, and your particular style and height and form factor of kitchen sink, we need a lot of data about people washing dishes to train models on.
At least, at this point we do. We will probably get to a point where an AI enabled robot can learn new manual tasks, but think about how long it took YOU, a human, to develop and learn motor function and coordination. All that motor telemetry data, input sounds, sights, and tactile sensations are handled by your brain silently, and we take it all for granted. But it's all built off a lifetime of your brain taking input data and processing it so you can run the biomechanical series of squishy meat levers and pulleys to wash the dishes.
I'll head this off at the start: The comparison is already extremely skewed. There's no hard "right" or "wrong" with creating text or images. Fuck up a sentence? Eh, whatever. Miss a note? Call it Jazz. Extra finger? ...okay, maybe there is a "wrong" but it's not a costly mistake.
Generate a dish-cleaning procedure that ends up trying to place down the cup where it is typically placed down, except the randomly deviating space is now partially occupied by a plate also placed within typical deviation of where plates typically are? Cup tips, falls, crashes and now the floor has irregularities not accounted for in the original procedure generation. Do I abort, try to generate a new procedure or carry out a floor-cleaning routine? How do I identify which option to go for, assuming I detect the irregularities at all?
The pattern-generation/-imitation approach used in GenAI is ill-equipped for systems requiring strict conditions and semantic requirements attached to parts of the pattern, for the same reason we've had incidents of agentic GenAI breaking production systems and their general tendency to produce shitty code that needs human supervision: There is no meaning to the tokens. That's good and well when you can kimit permissions and double-check before applying their suggested changes, but it works poorly with physical tasks.
Which is why
They're the physical equivalent of specialist systems, built for a specific task and very good at it, better than humans even. I would hope they'll become more affordable at smaller scales, but I think the current hype about universal systems isn't gonna deliver the results we're hoping for. Humans are sorta good at many things, but I think imitating them shouldn't be aiming for imitating sorta good utility.
I'd love to see the development of human-like machines be treated and funded as a fancy toy, maybe a platform to explore the nature of sentience and sapience, a vehicle for science. I don't need them to have practical applications any more than I need other research to start out with a practical application: maybe an actual use will emerge down the line, maybe the lessons learned will contribute to other research, who knows. Just let the nerds go wild with the nerdery and keep business out of it.
The universal household robot would probably be a natural language interface for a dispatching system instructing and coordinating specialists. And if manually placing my dishes in a receptacle or sorting my laundry is all I have to do, I'll be happy.
Oh or finally drives a car! I was promised that 10 years ago.
Well yeah my limited experience is an android auto update replaced Assistant with Gemini, and now it can't do anything new, only the same things much slower and with occasional really weird results. Totally worth all the lay offs and resources hogging.
Yes it is much much slower. Ask to navigate it says checking maps or something for a while then does it. Old way it just happened.
I've stopped using the voice commands in android auto since the gemini update. It keeps explicitly asking me to link my ytmusic and maps data to gemini, no thank you. I understand google already has that data, but I dont need it being ingested by gemini
Gemini has now replaced the default "dumb" assistant in android auto. On my drive home from picking my daughter up from preschool, she wanted to listen to Golden from KPOP Demon Hunters. Gemini gave me several sentences about how much it liked the song, then asked if I needed anything else. Then it failed to actually start the song playing. Half of the time it assumes I'm asking it to play a video on YouTube and says it can't do that while driving, so I have to specify to play using my music app.
And the irony is that it's not even because LLMs can't be used that way. LLMs can be given access to tools they can use and launching YouTube music can be one tool. They could also tell the LLM to assume the user wants music rather than videos if driving. They either have a really shitty LLM or really shitty tooling around the LLM.
It's not Intelligent. I call it Artificial Incompetence.
I have Actual Intelligence and Google has Anti Intelligence in their stuff now.
If we put aside the environmental damage and the capitalist aspects of LLMs, I fail to see why I should change the way I use my devices to let some hallucinating algorithm do stuff. The only times I use it is when I'm really stumped coming up with relevant search results, and even then there's more than 50% chance that it's not gonna achieve some break through.
I don't want Gemini. I want Google to Keep Android Open.
The biggest use case for Gemini is the enshittification of Google Search.
I hate to say it but most the time I use chatgpt is for saving on something that frustrates me so much. Search something, let's say... What temperature is chicken good to eat at, the first few articles will be a life story and why undercooking it is bad and about 800 words later is your answer. So frustrating.
Not sold is putting it very mildly. I found a fix for all of the bullshit though: you go into the default apps area and you choose none for assistant. Before I did that they had sideloaded fucking Gemini onto my phone via Android Auto and when I was trying to navigate somewhere I had to speak to some useless middle manager Gemini guy that didn't like cursing before he passed it off to the virtual woman to do the actual navigation. Google: bringing the patriarchy to your digital assistants.
Yeah, I switched my launcher to Lawnchair because they put the AI button right where my right thumb would touch the search bar. It seemed like it was also by design. My launcher now looks identical to the stock launcher on the Pixel, except without an AI button.
all I want was improvement to Google Assistant. I don’t want Gemini. I don’t want AI I don’t want any of this. I just want basic improvements to Google search and Google Assistant. Is that so hard to ask for?
But but but that's not going to turn any billionaires into trillionaires, now is it? Honestly.
The two greatest problems in handheld assistants is speech recognition and command integration.
Gemini solves neither of those, and I was already complaining about Google's crappy assistant long before the LLM era lol.
I could be wrong, but why hasn't someone just bothered gluing openai whisper to something like voice attack from elite dangerous?
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. AI can eat the entirety of my arse.
Does anyone else notice AI just being referred to as "intelligence" in the media a lot now? Seems very sudden and very sus.
My guess is that's apples fault. "Apple intelligence"
Eh, I use Gemini to project manage my little herb garden. Low stakes, well trodden ground. It was the kind of thing I knew LLMs could handle for stuff I do know about, so I'm trusting it for something I don't know about.
Ultimately it doesn't matter if my herbs live or die, I know I'll kill them on my own though. Gardening isn't a skill I want to actively acquire, I just want the herbs. It (the garden) is doing fine. I had some yellow leaves, the bot said to top dress it, I did, no more yellow leaves. So far so good.
Anything beyond the well trodden LLMs are shit at though. I tried to use it to find a specific motorcycle part, discontinued by the manufacturer: it couldn't. When I wanted it to shop for me, it failed. It seems to be doing well managing this non-commercial project for me.
I have a Pixel 10, first thing I did was to install LawnChair 16 launcher to remove the fucking google search bar, and I never use assistant/gemini, I have never talk to my phone too. The only thing I used that is nice is the "press and hold bottom screen then you can circle anything to search for it" I must say this is useful, instead of screenshot and going into google lens or whatever.
Go grapheneOS! The best thing to do with a damn pixel. No more battling with google.
I know, but I use tap-to-pay with NFC for like 10 years now and could not live without it :-/ I have no more wallet.
Else I would use any phone with a custom ROM, I agree...
Not sure the last time you checked but tap to pay works with most modern custom ROMs.
Yes, after installing Magisk/kSU, 3 or 4 addons to hide root/BL unlock, TEE, PIFork, boxkey, more hack to pass full integrity, etc, then after a few weeks there is a google update, wallet does not work anymore and you have to refind a way to pass full integrity. I did it with my previous phones and it's tedious...
I would think it would still work with the sandboxed google installed. Not tried though but it would still be vastly better, as Google's severely castrated in their sandbox 😁 Worth a shot if you hate the rest.
It doesn't. But you can get a watch that does NFC payments.
Yeah sure, should've guessed it doesn't...
I'm not going to embrace the spyware, thanks.
Removed the app, moving to gOS. Its far too invasive and I am just sick of using google anything.
That's alright, they'll suck it up eventually. Along with 'age control' de-anonymization.
Signed, GrapheneOS user.
True! Messaging. Forgot about it. I'll add.
why is your doctor cooking for you?
Gemini is garbage, it's always wrong.
gee, i wonder why...
I don't want it and as soon as I found out how to disable it, I did so
I so wasn't sold I'm not an android user anymore.
As if there are better alternatives unless you want a dumb phone.
GrapheneOS is doing fairly well right now for my needs. And I've been getting and supporting as many open source, privacy respecting apps as possible.
Honestly, it's been kind of fun and heartening to learn about all of these projects that people are building because they're passionate, driven, and want to help people. All without a stupid profit motive.
Have you had trouble with banking apps?
Not OP but i haven't had trouble with any financial apps except Google Wallet. A few warn me that the phone isn't secure but that's it. Google Wallet works except for payment cards, which i wouldn't use anyway because of the tracking.
Ive just used them by logging in on my pc on a privacy focused browser. Haven't even tried on the phone.
Thats the attitude!
just another peice of data trash to dump at the earliest opportunity. they keep trying to fix problems they create
I had my first real encounter with Gemini while using Android Auto. In my experience, it's a great improvement over Google Assistant. GA couldn't tell me what the temperature was a year ago on this day. Gemini handles this and complex questions easily.