Spyke
lemmy.world

There is a children's book with that title that my kids liked when they were small. Thanks for the memory prompt!

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lemmy.world

Wringing their hands, cackling, tying up schoolmarms on railroad tracks while twiddling mustaches

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

From the book:

A is for Aisle

B is for Bdellium

C is for Czar

D is for Djibouti

E is for Ewe

F is not for Photo, phlegm, phooey, or phone

G is for Gnocchi

H is for Heir

I is not for Eye

J is for Jai Alai

K is for Knight

L is not for Elle

M is Mnemonic

N is not for Knot

O is for Ouija

P is for Pterodactyl

Q is for Quinoa

R is not for Are

S is for Seas

T is for Tsunami

U is not for You

V is for Five

W is Wren

X is for Xylophone

Y is not for Why

Z is for Zhivago

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ladreply
programming.dev

I'm confused why ten is substituted with a musical instrument

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slrpnk.net

I started off nonplussed but by the time I got to the end I was mildly amused.

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lemmy.world

Lol - "Q as in Queue" hahahaha I bet someone thinks this is official enough to use.
I hope someone uses this, religiously, for life. :)

Alpha
Bravo
Charlie
Delta
Echo
Foxtrot
Golf
Hotel
India
Juliet
Kilo
Lima
Mike
November
Oscar
Papa
Quebec
Romeo
Sierra
Tango
Uniform
Victor
Whiskey
Xray
Yankee
Zulu

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CaptKoalareply
lemmy.ml

After having to learn these for work years ago, my life got a lot easier. Bad phone call? Phonetics, precise radio comms.? Phonetics. Just works, should be taught in every school.

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melfiereply
lemmy.zip

I find myself on the phone trying to spell something and come up with words that begin with each letter. Agreed that it’s a solved problem and everyone should just learn it.

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I taught myself by playing a license plate game, referring to the cars around me by their phonetic license plates "what're you doing bravo whiskey foxtrot foxtrot? You're turning right but indicating left!" It makes road rage more fun.

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Tjareply
programming.dev

If Q as in Queue bothers you, you better check what C stands for.

Same for D. And Y. And W.

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C is especially bad because Cue pronounced the same as Queue (if my English isn't too bad). The others are at least consisted once you accepted the absurdity. Also you forgot S and E in your list

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I used to work for phone support. First day when I thought I can use the alphabet like pro, then granny and auntie callers complained they don't know that military shit.

I have always pronounced Quebec like "kebek." Many US callers didn't understand it until it's like "cuebek". So I started pronouncing like so. Many US callers didn't understand it until it's "kebek".

Fuck this shit.

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Many of these are two distinct syllables, so even if you get a broken transmission, it’s still intelligible.

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I was on a call earlier with a business and they said S as in Sam. I wanted to correct them, but I thought it wasn't worth it.

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As someone who had to learn the actual NATO alphabet, if I look too hard at this, I'm likely to give myself a stroke.

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lemmy.world

I just realized the irony in "Phonetic Alphabet" phonetically starting with the "F" sound

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The idea isn't that the characters are new, it's that the names are more widespread than something like the Foxtrot dance, which many people alive today have never heard of.

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feddit.org

Don't forget the Double-U for the letter D. It's an absolute mess.

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feddit.org

Didn't know Englishers skipped the T in tsunami

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Noel_Skumreply
sh.itjust.works

Most of them do, yeah. You may hear a bit of a “tongue click” or something with others first before the “s”. A lot of first-language English speakers seem to really struggle when they see two consonants together that they haven’t previously encountered.

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LwLreply
lemmy.world

Especially at the start of words, see also e.g. pterodactyl, which from what I've gathered native english speakers just pronounce without the p.

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I think we need to be more consistent with it, time to drop the 'p' sound from helicopter as per its roots.

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It should be a "hard ts" which is something we mostly picked up from the French that is also a sound used in Japanese. So there should be a difference between saying "tsu" and saying "sue."

Tsu should be pronounced with teeth together and pushing air out through the teeth first, tongue against the lower front teeth for the hissy-t sound, before the vowel. (it's hard to write how to pronounce a word)

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From the creators of sharknado, now (bwaaam) choonami 🚂🌊

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Counterpoint: isle starts with the expected I sound so it’s 50/50 odds of getting I correct with aisle/isle. E being Eye and I being Ian (Ee-an) is actually more disruptive.

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lemmy.world

P pneumonia G gnu K knees

I used to do this all the time when I worked at a call center.

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lemmy.world

In the software, the official position is that the G in GNU is pronounced. But for the animal known as a gnu, the g isn't pronounced.

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lemmy.world

At first I was confused, then annoyed and finally relieved when I realised I was being punked

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lemmy.world

I helped design the original, always funny to see it out in the wild. Also llama would've been a better option for lima.

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lemmy.world

Got one behind me. Thank you for your service.

I use the semaphore code to shit-talk my boss to the fellow cubeslaves across the street from me.

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I is for "imagine"

M is for "me"

A is for the letter "a"

G is for "gee!"

I is for..."imagine"

N is for "nice"

E is for "Egad!"

I said "imagine" twice!

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lemmy.world

A for Horses

B for Mutton

C for Yourself

D for Dumb

E for Brick

F for Vessence

G for

H for

I for One

J for Oranges

K for

L for Leather

M for

N for

O for God’s Sake

P for

Q for Ages

R for Mo

S for

T for Baghdad

U for Mism

V for

W for

X for Breakfast

Y for

Z for

Can’t remember the rest. I feel like Y should be really obvious, but I’ve not even thought about this since I was a kid

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sh.itjust.works

Better suggestions for B:

  • Breath: Half the people would say "breathe" instead.
  • Boatswain: most people would have no idea how that's pronounced
  • Bury: a word with lots of different regional pronunciations
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feddit.org

Bidet is puzzling enough. Then there's modern portmanteaus like bussy (really, any word that has a more well-known P-word, like blot, will work) and NATO PA soundalikes like bike. And words with stress on other syllables that make the B less distinct, especially evil ones are before and benign for sounding like B4 and B9.

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Ooh, I like before and benign because at first there doesn't seem to be anything tricky going on there.

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Too bad all the (common) silent b words are words with b in the middle, not at the beginning. Bdellium would work, but that's something I think 99.9% of the planet has never heard of. If that were allowed, I bet you could find extremely rare names for every other letter.

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Aisle Bail Coil Deal Eel Feel Grill Hill Ill Jail Kill Lay Mill Nil Oil Pill Quill Real Seal Till Until Veal Will Xylophone Yell Zeal

would work so much better.

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Why is it that when I search nato alphabet everything refers to it as a "phonetic" alphabet? It's not phonetic!!

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psycotica0reply
lemmy.ca

"Nevermind" or "Next" would be pretty good.

L could maybe be "Lagos" because there's two cities named that and they're pronounced differently?

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B : backslash

D : delete

G : gneiss

H : hour

L : llama

N : nave

P : pterosaur

R : rote

U : urn

V : veldt

X : xerographic

Z : zero

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Nine is evil because it's a valid character. When you are using a phonetic alphabet, you don't say "N as in Nine". The whole point is to speed up communication over crappy connections. Adding "as in" afterwards defeats the purpose of having a standard.

As for L, I would go with "Letter".

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lemmy.world

I think B should be ‘bog’, because many people say “D as in ‘dog’.”

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swg-empire.de

If they had thought of Ligma for L I'm sure they could have come up with something for B.

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Reyalireply
lemmy.world

Maybe read it again? L is lima, no ‘g’. It and bravo are the only unchanged.

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X: how bout either "Xenophobia" or even better, the 14th letter of the greek alphabet, as it's written in English: Xi.

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And neither is a phonetic alphabet. They're spelling alphabets. But that doesn't sound as cool

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I was sure the peace symbol was from combining the letters K + G from "kg of weed makes people peaceful".

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lemmy.world

Whoever sells this as the "NATO Alphabet" needs to be taken outside and shot.

You can think of military what you like, but the real NATO alphabet is a phonetic masterpiece. RobWords has an interesting video about it on YT.

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I think the joke here is exactly that some of the words are the worst for this purpose.

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Looks like the joke flew over your head...

But to indulge your more serious angle, yeah, it's well thought through. And if your source is the one I think it is, that one also packages in that "NATO Phonetic Alphabet" is a bit of a misnomer.

It's not a phonetic alphabet, since it doesn't type out what sounds one must make to pronounce words correctly. And the main devs weren't NATO, but ICAO. NATO was just gonna adopt it and issue some feedback for improvements.

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