Awww, did someone get addicted to unsustainable energy sources that are artificially cheap due to externalized costs?
Edit: For context, the highest price shown in this picture is still 32% cheaper than gas was in Germany BEFORE your genius president decided to start a war, and around 42% cheaper than it is now. And seeing as we're still burning fossils like there's no tomorrow, it is apparently not nearly expensive enough yet.
At no point in my lifetime have we had a chance to elect anyone not influenced by capital lobbyists. Our elections are a farce where the choices are between letting things get worse or keeping them the same. We’re ratcheting further and further into hell every few years and given nothing but the illusion of choice to prevent it. The votes and opinions of the working class have literally no statistical influence on legislation passed in this country. None.
Yep, 1/3 of us choose not to show up, because the candidate wasn't perfect or they couldn't be bothered, along with the disenfranchisement of people due to "voting reform".
I wish it mattered that a lot of us voted against this shit, but just as many wanted it/didn't care, so here we are. It fucking sucks here 😕
I'm not just talking about Kamala here - Bernie being listed while running on a pretty popular programme, just because the right would audibly consider it "communist" (while they'd still do so even if the Democrats brought out a plan that matched the GOP 99.999%) is another good example.
Same answer applies. We consistently have a third of the population sit out of the general, and only a fraction of voters participate in primaries.
Too many are apathetic and don't participate, or become so entrenched in purity politics and reject anything that could stem the bleeding because it's too middle of the road and stay home. A lot of our problems could be solved by an active and informed electorate, but too many want perfection and are willing to sacrifice passable to get less than nothing.
No, because my country has continuously overthrown (or at least tried to overthrow) authoritarian regimes that served other interests rather than the people's, for the past 300 years alone.
No, it's not. We all know that we cannot afford to put any more CO2 into the atmosphere. So reasonably, any new CO2 that is emitted would have to be (permanently) removed via carbon capture. That would be the true cost of emitting CO2, but instead, these effects are externalized to global society as a whole, making gas at the pump artificially cheap by cheating everyone else.
Oh, you're right, it was actually 57% of registered voters in California that refused to vote against him and vote for Kamala.
Just because you live in a system doesn't mean that voting absolves you of all blame for the current crisis. You still live in the US and you still indirectly support American foreign policy. You still live in a world that is crumbling because authoritarians are bullying the civilians of the world.
Americans having to pay a fraction of what Europeans or the global south has to pay for gas is completely fair. The US started this war. The war has not ended yet.
At the very least, the 57% of you who encouraged this behavior might change their mind after this pain.
There is too much apathy in the US. You can't just live in a bubble and pretend everything will be OK while World War 3 is starting.
Until the people of the US do something about your tyrannical government, I think the rest of the world is going to make snide comments and tar you all with the same brush. Let's be honest, it doesn't matter who youve voted for, the US consistently will start wars.
It sucks but at least you guys arent the ones being bombed.
The US has a lot of blame for these wars, certainly, I'm on the same page, but historically, the US was not there alone. So when you point the finger and say the US and its citizens need to do something, remember that you could also be pressuring your own government to stand up for what's right, in a world full of Kier Starmer, be a Pedro Sanchez.
You and I are of the same mind, we are better together than fighting each other.
Bro I live in the Netherlands one of the densest countries in the world, with great pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure and good public transportation. The average work commute here is still 40km per day that’s 200km a week so 120 miles per week. And the majority of people use the car to commute. Gas is €2.34/L and Diesel is €2.58/L that’s €8.84/gallon or $10.2/gallon for petrol and €9.57/gallon or $11/gallon for diesel.
So people all over the world are screwed even if they travel less. And even if you don’t use a car guess what will happen to food prices and public transportation ticket prices when diesel is as expensive as it is now.
I don't drive one of the giant brotrucks that I see daily, those guys are absolutely fucked. Gas is $4 where I am, but I expect it over $5 by the time summer hits and those assholes with their 8mpg highway are going to be hurting
I drive like... 200 miles every 2 weeks or so in total? I fill up once a month and at current prices that's about $60 for my car
It depends on the area, but it's not uncommon to drive more than 30 or 40 miles a day for a work commute in California (especially if you're trying to live in a cheaper area away from where the jobs are located).
At my university, one of my professors told me his commute to campus was about 2 hours, so I'd interpet that to an easy 50 miles from his home (my 4 hour commute to move onto the campus was roughly 100 miles)
Likely nothing because there's 100+ years of laws and momentum preventing any meaningful change.
Not to mention the cost and time required to make change is something that is no longer feesable in many instances as things stand. Making change even if you were to get everyone to agree not possible.
We can make things better going forward but in many cases we can't actually fix the existing problem with out displacing people and businesses. Damaging already struggling local economies and creating a larger homeless problem.
City planning is a brutal issue that frequently doesn't lend it self well to going back and fixing problems. The best in many cases is to stop fucking up in the first place on new construction. And band aid fix old.
For some reason this comment reminded me of that Cuban dude that retrofitted his car to run on coal because of American sanctions. What a world we live in.
I saw someone rambling yesterday that it indeed is Obama and Bidens fault due to them not attacking Iran when they were in power and now Trump has to clean up their mess. Unhinged logic for sure.
It's about $3.69 to $3.99 right now around Cincinnati, OH. Gas in California is probably (if not actually) the highest priced gas in the country.
But yeah the cost of everything going up since Trump took office has sucked. This war in Iran feels totally pointless, we've managed to hurt ourselves and kill a bunch of innocent people and all for what? Like honestly it's beyond idiotic, it's cruel and literally weakens our position on the world stage.
There is zero incentive for Iran to allow free transit through the strait of Hormuz, now or in the foreseeable future. Even when this all ends it's not going to go back to like it was before.
Sorry went on a tangent there but yeah gas prices being this high because our president and current administration are fucking morons is so dumb.
I think this is all a conspiracy to make the price of a foot long seem cheaper. Big sandwich with the full support of Subway is manipulating the U.S. into performing atrocious acts to drive up fuel prices. Thus when you see the cost of a sub, you'll be like huh... That's actually not that terrible. /s
Diesel in Denmark is 11.2 USD/gallon ... but do keep complaining about your luxuriously low gas prices, which BTW was caused by the POTUS too many Americans couldn't be bothered to vote against.
Diesel is over $7/gal, it's fucking wild out here.
I got a big pay bump last October and I felt like for the first time since the 00's I was finally out of the "just getting by" pay curve for Bay Area California and then this Iran war shit happens and now everything including gas is more expensive, clawing back all the gains I've made.
At least there's a chance things might go back to normal if this shit ever ends, but I expect that prices are going to stay high long after the justification for raising them vanishes, just like with inflation.
I left California 35 years ago and never looked back. The prices were too high then, and have gotten exponentially worse since. The people are all fake and full of themselves.
Not surprising. There are more maga here than any other state, despite being such a minority that no Republican has won a state election in about 20 years.
It fell off for awhile but came around during COVID. It used to account for card back in the day, now AI think gas stations are just running shit under the table.
I rarely see it in Canada. I’ve only seen it at farmers markets. I did a quick search and apparently it is fully legal, just uncommon. As long as you either advertise the highest cost or clearly explain the different cost levels (like in the OP) it’s fine apparently. The more you know.
Oh yeah you see it a good bit in other cases. Usually just a flat 25 cent additional charge for card, it's just gas that I think is cooking the books in particular.
10,30 USD/Gallon in Germany, Sweden.... I don't know... But you might begin to understand why it might be smarter not to drive around in gas guzzling tanks? Or switch to electric. Or use smaller cars. Or even.... BOTH?
I snapped this at a local station in MA this morning, luckily it's for my work truck so I'm not paying for a truck getting probably 8mpg filled twice a week
I wonder if they'll just put a 9/10 in the median and use the thousandths slot, or if they'd just drop it to $5.00 and say thats the price per half gallon
A little unfair since Chevron is often 50 cents to a dollar more, but it's still pretty bad. 5.60 a gallon at the cheapest. We still tax our gas though.
Awww, did someone get addicted to unsustainable energy sources that are artificially cheap due to externalized costs?
Edit: For context, the highest price shown in this picture is still 32% cheaper than gas was in Germany BEFORE your genius president decided to start a war, and around 42% cheaper than it is now. And seeing as we're still burning fossils like there's no tomorrow, it is apparently not nearly expensive enough yet.
No the oil lobby is forcing it upon us. We try to get renewables but they are being destroyed by idiots.
Well, y'all had the chance to elect people less influenced by the oil lobby. and y'all collectively failed.
At no point in my lifetime have we had a chance to elect anyone not influenced by capital lobbyists. Our elections are a farce where the choices are between letting things get worse or keeping them the same. We’re ratcheting further and further into hell every few years and given nothing but the illusion of choice to prevent it. The votes and opinions of the working class have literally no statistical influence on legislation passed in this country. None.
Yep, 1/3 of us choose not to show up, because the candidate wasn't perfect or they couldn't be bothered, along with the disenfranchisement of people due to "voting reform".
I wish it mattered that a lot of us voted against this shit, but just as many wanted it/didn't care, so here we are. It fucking sucks here 😕
I'm not just talking about Kamala here - Bernie being listed while running on a pretty popular programme, just because the right would audibly consider it "communist" (while they'd still do so even if the Democrats brought out a plan that matched the GOP 99.999%) is another good example.
Same answer applies. We consistently have a third of the population sit out of the general, and only a fraction of voters participate in primaries.
Too many are apathetic and don't participate, or become so entrenched in purity politics and reject anything that could stem the bleeding because it's too middle of the road and stay home. A lot of our problems could be solved by an active and informed electorate, but too many want perfection and are willing to sacrifice passable to get less than nothing.
Or can't get to the polls, or can't affford to miss work because rent is due, or their vote is thrown out...
Centrism is unelectable
Letting fascists win is preferable, clearly.
Nominating centrists is letting fascists win, demonstrably over many years
Then show the fuck up and get others to do so as well. Cuz people staying home is how the centrists get nominated, and the fascists get elected.,
Given that both US parties are right-wing, I'd love an actual centrist.
They write the rules and we use it as an excuse to not escalate.
You would know that from experience, right?
No, because my country has continuously overthrown (or at least tried to overthrow) authoritarian regimes that served other interests rather than the people's, for the past 300 years alone.
They're artificially expensive. The US is a net EXPORTER of oil.
Is all just a bunch of fucking bullshit, everyone.
No, it's not. We all know that we cannot afford to put any more CO2 into the atmosphere. So reasonably, any new CO2 that is emitted would have to be (permanently) removed via carbon capture. That would be the true cost of emitting CO2, but instead, these effects are externalized to global society as a whole, making gas at the pump artificially cheap by cheating everyone else.
California has one of the highest renewables usage and has the highest energy price.
"... in the US" i assume you mean for both of those statistics?
Don’t worry, they’ll figure out the “no tomorrow” part soon enough
If only conservatives weren't so focused on the economy the economy would be doing better. :(
They focus on the economy just like they focus on underaged girls
They're only looking for something they can fuck
You sonofabitch I’m writing this because I can’t upvote twice. Capital joke!
Comparatively, fuel in Hong Kong is about $4/litre which is about $15/gallon... so count your lucky stars and stripes you warmongering fools.
Right, because the people of California were the ones clamoring for a war in the middle east.
6M Californians voted for him.
Population of CA: 39 million
Oh, you're right, it was actually 57% of registered voters in California that refused to vote against him and vote for Kamala.
Just because you live in a system doesn't mean that voting absolves you of all blame for the current crisis. You still live in the US and you still indirectly support American foreign policy. You still live in a world that is crumbling because authoritarians are bullying the civilians of the world.
Americans having to pay a fraction of what Europeans or the global south has to pay for gas is completely fair. The US started this war. The war has not ended yet.
At the very least, the 57% of you who encouraged this behavior might change their mind after this pain.
There is too much apathy in the US. You can't just live in a bubble and pretend everything will be OK while World War 3 is starting.
And yet none of it went towards electing Trump.
Most didn’t.
Most didn't vote for Kamala either
70% of registered votes showed up in CA. The basically voted 60 / 40 in favor of Harris.
60% of 70% is only 42%. So the other 58% spoiled their vote or outright support Trump.
So fuck everyone else that didn't, according to you? The vast majority can get fucked? How nice of you.
Until the people of the US do something about your tyrannical government, I think the rest of the world is going to make snide comments and tar you all with the same brush. Let's be honest, it doesn't matter who youve voted for, the US consistently will start wars.
It sucks but at least you guys arent the ones being bombed.
The US has a lot of blame for these wars, certainly, I'm on the same page, but historically, the US was not there alone. So when you point the finger and say the US and its citizens need to do something, remember that you could also be pressuring your own government to stand up for what's right, in a world full of Kier Starmer, be a Pedro Sanchez.
You and I are of the same mind, we are better together than fighting each other.
I volunteer Utah to be bombed, actually that'd be an improvement if they were.
11,7$/gallon in Germany . It had never been so high.
Tbf how much does rising gas prices affect ambulance fees in Hong Kong?
"Ambulance fees" are the most dystopian words I've seen in a long time.
And the idea of them rising with gas prices... *shudders*
Your government, which is just Xi, is on the verge of invading Taiwan, a sovereign nation.
To everyone commenting, please remember it's a class war. We're all in the same boat, and the billionaires are throwing rocks at us.
The Hong Kong with cheap and reliable public transport?
I love all the comments from other countries stating "oh that's still cheap."
Lil bro, I probably drive more in a month just for the menial shit I need to do than you do in a year, and I work from home.
We don't even fucking have sidewalks where I live.
Good news is, once enough of you cant afford the fuel anymore, you can easily convert one of the 8 lanes into a sidewalk.
Or even... gasp a cycle path. dun dun dunnnn
God I wish.
It really doesn't seem that far fetched. Though, we would have to collectively get more involved in city council/planning meetings
Bro I live in the Netherlands one of the densest countries in the world, with great pedestrian and bicycle infrastructure and good public transportation. The average work commute here is still 40km per day that’s 200km a week so 120 miles per week. And the majority of people use the car to commute. Gas is €2.34/L and Diesel is €2.58/L that’s €8.84/gallon or $10.2/gallon for petrol and €9.57/gallon or $11/gallon for diesel.
So people all over the world are screwed even if they travel less. And even if you don’t use a car guess what will happen to food prices and public transportation ticket prices when diesel is as expensive as it is now.
They said, sobbing
Swap the F150 for a prius.
Roll less coal
I'm being mean. Your country is damn big. But your fuel is hella cheap. Do you drive 200 miles per day?
It's not impossible. I had a 1.5 hour one-way commute to work at one point.
I don't drive one of the giant brotrucks that I see daily, those guys are absolutely fucked. Gas is $4 where I am, but I expect it over $5 by the time summer hits and those assholes with their 8mpg highway are going to be hurting
I drive like... 200 miles every 2 weeks or so in total? I fill up once a month and at current prices that's about $60 for my car
Some people do.
It depends on the area, but it's not uncommon to drive more than 30 or 40 miles a day for a work commute in California (especially if you're trying to live in a cheaper area away from where the jobs are located).
At my university, one of my professors told me his commute to campus was about 2 hours, so I'd interpet that to an easy 50 miles from his home (my 4 hour commute to move onto the campus was roughly 100 miles)
So.. what are you going to do about it?
Likely nothing because there's 100+ years of laws and momentum preventing any meaningful change.
Not to mention the cost and time required to make change is something that is no longer feesable in many instances as things stand. Making change even if you were to get everyone to agree not possible.
We can make things better going forward but in many cases we can't actually fix the existing problem with out displacing people and businesses. Damaging already struggling local economies and creating a larger homeless problem.
City planning is a brutal issue that frequently doesn't lend it self well to going back and fixing problems. The best in many cases is to stop fucking up in the first place on new construction. And band aid fix old.
Waves and waves of debt fueled expansion and gentrification; from the center outward.
For some reason this comment reminded me of that Cuban dude that retrofitted his car to run on coal because of American sanctions. What a world we live in.
there is literally one
Remember when all the coal rolling micropenises were whacking "I did that!" stickers stickers on everything?
Wonder what they're all blaming now their man, Mango Mussolini and his team of cum-guzzling sycophants and fascist handlers are fully in charge?
Is it still somehow Biden's fault? What's their play here?
I saw someone rambling yesterday that it indeed is Obama and Bidens fault due to them not attacking Iran when they were in power and now Trump has to clean up their mess. Unhinged logic for sure.
Ah yes, before the Strait of Hormuz existed 😂
Maybe if Obama had spent as much time on the links as Trump, you all wouldn't be in this mess.
LMAO
He's no tiger woods for sure.
Obviously it's because of gavin newscum
If only they had bigger penises, they could be accepted by society.
Canadian comparison: $6.79 USD/gal(us) is $2.49 CAD/L, currently.
Gas around here in Edmonton, Alberta is between $1.45 CAD/L and $1.72 CAD/L depending how hard you look.
That would be between $3.95/gal(us) and $4.68/gal(us)
It's about $3.69 to $3.99 right now around Cincinnati, OH. Gas in California is probably (if not actually) the highest priced gas in the country.
But yeah the cost of everything going up since Trump took office has sucked. This war in Iran feels totally pointless, we've managed to hurt ourselves and kill a bunch of innocent people and all for what? Like honestly it's beyond idiotic, it's cruel and literally weakens our position on the world stage.
There is zero incentive for Iran to allow free transit through the strait of Hormuz, now or in the foreseeable future. Even when this all ends it's not going to go back to like it was before.
Sorry went on a tangent there but yeah gas prices being this high because our president and current administration are fucking morons is so dumb.
That's about the same as Australia. It's $2.50/L and AUD is typically close to CAD.
I'm in Aus, our currency is similar to cad, 3.05/L for diesel, 2.23 for standard fuel.
Thank you. I'm seeing like 1.69/L (cad) on weekday nights, and like 1.79 otherwise. Weird seeing us gas cost more haha.
Dang. It's 2,25€/L which is CAD3,62/L in Germany (Rhineland Palatinate)
I think this is all a conspiracy to make the price of a foot long seem cheaper. Big sandwich with the full support of Subway is manipulating the U.S. into performing atrocious acts to drive up fuel prices. Thus when you see the cost of a sub, you'll be like huh... That's actually not that terrible. /s
Diesel in Denmark is 11.2 USD/gallon ... but do keep complaining about your luxuriously low gas prices, which BTW was caused by the POTUS too many Americans couldn't be bothered to vote against.
but if Kamala won, all those Palestinian children would die!
she's just as bad as Trump!
this is what they actually believe
In Canada where I live, diesel is 9.2 USD/G converted, but can reach much higher (10.5$+) in other regions on Canada.
Diesel is over $7/gal, it's fucking wild out here.
I got a big pay bump last October and I felt like for the first time since the 00's I was finally out of the "just getting by" pay curve for Bay Area California and then this Iran war shit happens and now everything including gas is more expensive, clawing back all the gains I've made.
At least there's a chance things might go back to normal if this shit ever ends, but I expect that prices are going to stay high long after the justification for raising them vanishes, just like with inflation.
I left California 35 years ago and never looked back. The prices were too high then, and have gotten exponentially worse since. The people are all fake and full of themselves.
People in CA blame Newsom.
It's clearly trump's fault
Obviously. However I was just there and I heard this more than once.
Not surprising. There are more maga here than any other state, despite being such a minority that no Republican has won a state election in about 20 years.
They do it to be contrarian. Which is the most infantile moronic response ever.
*cumtrarian
It's $3.79 in Iowa. Yes, even with the war. Just being in California almoat doubles the price.
I can appreciate that premium gas is only $.30/gal more, where by me it's $1.10/gal more 😡😤
Be glad. Here fuel costs around 8-9 dollars equivalent for the same amount, thanks to your senile president.
It's about $9.60 in Germany. Thanks, Trump.
A Litre?!
I couldn’t help but notice there’s a different price for cash and card, is that normal in the States?
Yep. Back around 2013 when the national credit rating slid down it became legal/not prohibited to do so after a lawsuit.
It's normal with independently-owned fuel stations. Not so much with corporate chains.
It fell off for awhile but came around during COVID. It used to account for card back in the day, now AI think gas stations are just running shit under the table.
I rarely see it in Canada. I’ve only seen it at farmers markets. I did a quick search and apparently it is fully legal, just uncommon. As long as you either advertise the highest cost or clearly explain the different cost levels (like in the OP) it’s fine apparently. The more you know.
Oh yeah you see it a good bit in other cases. Usually just a flat 25 cent additional charge for card, it's just gas that I think is cooking the books in particular.
Californian gas prices disturb Americans and Europeans alike.
They just disagree with the direction in which the price must be wrong.
10,30 USD/Gallon in Germany, Sweden.... I don't know... But you might begin to understand why it might be smarter not to drive around in gas guzzling tanks? Or switch to electric. Or use smaller cars. Or even.... BOTH?
Good time to buy the cheapest electric car you can find and use it for commute and round town driving. Leave the gas car for longer trips.
Ha! Take that liberals! /S
For comparison, prices near me in the UK are £1.55 a litre which is about $7.45 a gallon.
That's not too bad! In Norway it is between £2-3. But most bus cards have been lowered from April, so there are some light points around.
Germans are envious.
I made the mistake of taking my diesel TDi on a road trip through California right as the illegal invasion kicked off.
My last fill was $8.00/ gal
In IB, we hit $7.09 for premium, and $7.69 for Diesel. It's crazy, and it's gonna get worse.
IB?
Imperial Beach, California. Basically as close to Tijuana as you can get without being in Mexico
Shit that's worse than downtown
only about 50 cents less in Portland atm.
I snapped this at a local station in MA this morning, luckily it's for my work truck so I'm not paying for a truck getting probably 8mpg filled twice a week
Around $9 in Scotland if you're lucky. Big price spike lately cos of your war in the gulf. Cheers America!
FWIW in SoCal I’m seeing lows around $5.30
Sex number.
I'm from the bay area. In Hawaii currently. Gas is cheaper here in the middle of the ocean
I saw $6.79 a gallon for regular being advertised on a sign by the highway.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Thank God for Costco.
$5.10 a gallon for premium and 5% cash back because I have their credit card.
67 and 69. The uniting of generations. Just not in the way we wanted.
Fuck it just replace every 9 with a 9/10.
Most of the people in California don't care.
I've paid more before. At this point I'm rooting for gas prices to go up.
Where's the 67? :(
Replacing all the signs with ones that will support one more letter will suck
I wonder if they'll just put a 9/10 in the median and use the thousandths slot, or if they'd just drop it to $5.00 and say thats the price per half gallon
This is how they get us to switch to the metric system, selling gas by the liter
A little unfair since Chevron is often 50 cents to a dollar more, but it's still pretty bad. 5.60 a gallon at the cheapest. We still tax our gas though.
Noo, so close!