Home Depot uses Flock ALPR cameras to track you. This information is sold to advertisers, highest bidders, and is given to cops and feds for free. Source
You’re mixing a real issue with a bunch of claims you can’t back up.
Yes, Home Depot uses Flock ALPR cameras. That part is true. They scan license plates and log vehicles in parking lots. And yes, that data can be shared with local law enforcement. That’s all documented.
But “tracking you” like some kind of live surveillance grid? Not really. It’s point-in-time plate reads. It can be aggregated into movement patterns, which is where the privacy concern actually exists, but that’s not the same thing as constant tracking.
Now the bigger problem, where are you getting that they “sell the data to advertisers or highest bidders”? There’s no credible reporting supporting that. Flock’s entire business model is selling the system and access, not dumping raw data on the open market. If you have a source, post it.
Same with “given to cops and feds for free.” It’s not that simple. Local police can access or integrate with these systems, sure. And federal agencies might get data indirectly through them. But that’s very different from Home Depot just handing it out freely to anyone with a badge.
So yeah, there’s a legitimate surveillance concern here. But when you start throwing in unsupported claims, it just weakens the argument.
If you’ve got actual sources for the “advertisers” or “highest bidders” part, let’s see them. Otherwise, you’re overstating it.
What the privacy statement actually says
Where Do We Collect It From?
Directly from you or the devices you use to access digital services, such as websites, mobile applications, and applications for connected devices.
Other customers that may provide us with your information to recommend a product or service, ship products to you, or list you as a recipient of products or services.
Companies that provide services on our behalf (e.g., installers and others that may communicate with you about products or projects).
Security and fraud prevention services that help us confirm that transactions are valid and otherwise help us protect our assets and you.
Marketing companies that help us learn about our customers and the devices they use to access digital content.
Companies that supplement our customer records with additional information.
Shipping providers that update address information.
Social media platforms.
Advertising companies and content publishers that present you with our ads.
Payment and transaction processors.
Communications and mailing vendors.
The signals emitted by your mobile devices when you travel through our stores
I don't like you or what you do. I've seen your posts before, and you keep making declarative claims backed by weak sources that don't actually explain anything. On top of that, you're clearly making things up and framing it as some grand conspiracy about people being tracked.
Yes, tracking exists to a degree, but you strip out all nuance and turn it into fear-mongering. It's not useful, it's not informative, and it's not a service to anyone. Just stop.
If you scroll down on the privacy and security policy, there is a section that says they record you with audio and video while you are in their stores and parking lots and provide that to advertisers, partners, subsidiaries, and law enforcement. Your reaction to the original commenter feels a little extreme.
What you’re calling “extreme” is simply direct pushback without the usual padding people have come to expect. That padding, hedging, soft language, pretending both sides might have a point, is exactly why misinformation keeps spreading unchecked. It creates the illusion that facts are negotiable.
Now, if the goal is to gently reassure everyone and avoid discomfort, then yes, a softer tone would be more appropriate. But that approach routinely fails to correct anything. It prioritizes feelings over accuracy.
If the goal is to actually challenge bad information in a way that’s unambiguous and difficult to misinterpret, then a firmer tone is not only justified, it’s necessary.
You don’t have to like the delivery. But dismissing it as “extreme” avoids engaging with the actual issue, whether the claim being challenged holds up. If it doesn’t, then tone becomes a secondary concern.
The reason I responded at all was because I looked up what he was talking about because anytime someone makes a wild claim supported by a poor source it tends to raise a few red flags.
I don't mince words and I don't play it soft.
It is a clear sign of the times when clear pushback on a wild ass claim is met with "your comment is so extreme." It should be so as to ensure the validity of what I'm trying to say.
If there was more "extreme" out there my country wouldn't be the utter maga shit hole it is now.
Every single retail store in the known first world does this. They have cameras in their stores that record video and audio. They collate data about sales and if you have an account they'll link it to your name.
I don't know what part of the world you're from but here in the states we have a chain called Kroger and if you want discounts you got to put your phone number into their system. That tracks everything that you do for marketing purposes.
I have not read Krogers security and privacy policy, but if Kroger was recording me without my consent and providing that to advertisers I would like to know. So I appreciate the initial commenter bringing this to our attention. Also even if this behavior is prevalent, I don't think it should be dismissed.
in select Texas stores we may collect biometric information such as a facial recognition data, when you enter our stores for security purposes, to protect the health and safety of our customers and associates, and to prevent, investigate, and prosecute shoplifting, fraud, and other criminal activities. We provide notice at the point of entry in locations where we collect biometric information.
So, only in Texas and theyre supposedly not trying to hide it ? at least for facial recognition. ALPR isn't specifically mentioned in Kroger's privacy policy, although this line implies it's not entirely off the table
Sensory data such as CCTV recordings from our facilities or premises or photos. Some of our cameras may capture license plate data for
security purposes, to protect the health and safety of our customers and associates, and to prevent, investigate, and prosecute
shoplifting, fraud, and other criminal activities. We may record your voice when you contact our customer service centers.
Post is SO NOT about going to home depot. Not even close. The exact same post would have achieved the same goal with any other name. Have you even glanced at the picture?
If it bothers you so much, use the fucking built in filters. Block me. Do not make it my problem that you are choosing to ignore all of the safeguards put in place by the developers.
You're making it my problem to block every one of the thousands of people that post off-topic on their grievances in every light hearted thread, so no. I am going to make it your problem, because you're being annoying and socially inept. I'm sorry that that's not nice to hear, but I don't say it to be cruel, only in the hopes of achieving a better outcome for everyone.
Restricting yourself to posting about privacy and politics in threads that are relevant is not a big ask.
The only person being socially inept is the Non-American trying to tell an American that they should not share information of American oppressors with other Americans. The Non-American who went out of their way to call out and use a term that is commonly associated with the neuro-divergent for no reason other than to get a dig in, and make assumptions based on stereotyping.
Sorry buddy, I'm not changing. You are privileged. You are the "White Moderate" that Martin Luther King Jr wrote about in his letter in Birmingham Jail. What you see as an inconvience, others see as life saving information. Again, don't want to see it? You have the tools to fix it. Use them. You can complain about seeing activism after activism is no longer needed.
America sneezes and the whole world catches a cold - not just because you blow up international trade, but because you see your grievances as the most important thing, so that they are relevant in every situation, so we've all got to suffer through your self-absorption.
Do the internet equivalent of wearing a face mask.
We had a minor freeze last year. I went to Home Depot and the last piece of pipe insulation was very mangled and the adhesive was falling off. I asked the clerk if they would discount it for me since all I needed was about 1 ft but would buy the damaged parts at a discount.
They got a supervisor who argued with me that “it’s suppose to be like that”. Like brother I’m trying to help y’all get this damaged product off the shelf. I’ll happily pay full price for undamaged product. We argued for about 5 minutes before he went to the back and brought me a piece from a brand new box.
Congrats on being today's lucky one in 10,000 people. ;)
Ea-Nasir is the world's oldest recorded corporate con artist. Shitty business owners getting away with being absolute bastards and getting off on making people angry is a thing older than fucking dirt.
Man, what a legacy this man has. In th Lemmy app I use, the top of the was cut off in the thumbnail and so all I saw were the fittings and I was like man Ea Nasir, you still haven't improved your supply? And then I opened the image and yep he's at it again.
Home Depot uses Flock ALPR cameras to track you. This information is sold to advertisers, highest bidders, and is given to cops and feds for free. Source
Sir, this is a shitpost
Honest question: does lowes not do it?
Lowes also does it.
Fuckers.
Unfortunately, unless you've got a local mom and pop that only takes cash, you're not going to find any store where you won't get tracked.
You could however find a store that does not entertain the notion of purchasing flock AI surveillance cameras.
harm reduction.
Even that is not exactly easy.
No one said fighting fascism would be easy
I guess I boycott home depot now
You’re mixing a real issue with a bunch of claims you can’t back up.
Yes, Home Depot uses Flock ALPR cameras. That part is true. They scan license plates and log vehicles in parking lots. And yes, that data can be shared with local law enforcement. That’s all documented.
But “tracking you” like some kind of live surveillance grid? Not really. It’s point-in-time plate reads. It can be aggregated into movement patterns, which is where the privacy concern actually exists, but that’s not the same thing as constant tracking.
Now the bigger problem, where are you getting that they “sell the data to advertisers or highest bidders”? There’s no credible reporting supporting that. Flock’s entire business model is selling the system and access, not dumping raw data on the open market. If you have a source, post it.
Same with “given to cops and feds for free.” It’s not that simple. Local police can access or integrate with these systems, sure. And federal agencies might get data indirectly through them. But that’s very different from Home Depot just handing it out freely to anyone with a badge.
So yeah, there’s a legitimate surveillance concern here. But when you start throwing in unsupported claims, it just weakens the argument. If you’ve got actual sources for the “advertisers” or “highest bidders” part, let’s see them. Otherwise, you’re overstating it.
What the privacy statement actually says
I don't like you or what you do. I've seen your posts before, and you keep making declarative claims backed by weak sources that don't actually explain anything. On top of that, you're clearly making things up and framing it as some grand conspiracy about people being tracked.
Yes, tracking exists to a degree, but you strip out all nuance and turn it into fear-mongering. It's not useful, it's not informative, and it's not a service to anyone. Just stop.
If you scroll down on the privacy and security policy, there is a section that says they record you with audio and video while you are in their stores and parking lots and provide that to advertisers, partners, subsidiaries, and law enforcement. Your reaction to the original commenter feels a little extreme.
In addition to my first comment response.
What you’re calling “extreme” is simply direct pushback without the usual padding people have come to expect. That padding, hedging, soft language, pretending both sides might have a point, is exactly why misinformation keeps spreading unchecked. It creates the illusion that facts are negotiable.
Now, if the goal is to gently reassure everyone and avoid discomfort, then yes, a softer tone would be more appropriate. But that approach routinely fails to correct anything. It prioritizes feelings over accuracy.
If the goal is to actually challenge bad information in a way that’s unambiguous and difficult to misinterpret, then a firmer tone is not only justified, it’s necessary. You don’t have to like the delivery. But dismissing it as “extreme” avoids engaging with the actual issue, whether the claim being challenged holds up. If it doesn’t, then tone becomes a secondary concern.
I find it an extremely response without ensuring what you say is correct. Context matters.
The reason I responded at all was because I looked up what he was talking about because anytime someone makes a wild claim supported by a poor source it tends to raise a few red flags.
I don't mince words and I don't play it soft.
It is a clear sign of the times when clear pushback on a wild ass claim is met with "your comment is so extreme." It should be so as to ensure the validity of what I'm trying to say.
If there was more "extreme" out there my country wouldn't be the utter maga shit hole it is now.
I think people reacting extremely negatively without fact checking is exactly what got our country into this state...
Correct... 🧐
Assume nothing question authority.
Every single retail store in the known first world does this. They have cameras in their stores that record video and audio. They collate data about sales and if you have an account they'll link it to your name.
I don't know what part of the world you're from but here in the states we have a chain called Kroger and if you want discounts you got to put your phone number into their system. That tracks everything that you do for marketing purposes.
This has been going on since the dawn of retail.
What the person above is describing isn't that.
I have not read Krogers security and privacy policy, but if Kroger was recording me without my consent and providing that to advertisers I would like to know. So I appreciate the initial commenter bringing this to our attention. Also even if this behavior is prevalent, I don't think it should be dismissed.
Just out of curiosity I did check
Kroger's Privacy Policy
So, only in Texas and theyre supposedly not trying to hide it ? at least for facial recognition. ALPR isn't specifically mentioned in Kroger's privacy policy, although this line implies it's not entirely off the table
Quite irrelevant here.
Post is about someone going to home depot. most people are not reading the privacy policy for the shops they go to. I do. I make others aware.
Not sure how a comment about the store the post is about isnt relevant.
Post is SO NOT about going to home depot. Not even close. The exact same post would have achieved the same goal with any other name. Have you even glanced at the picture?
its about ea nasir the ancient scam artist of copper.
title says home depot. relevant. if they had said hardware store, then you would be correct there would be no reason to have posted the comment.
Because nobody cares that people can tell what store they went to for some DIY supplies, and the OP isn't even lauding the place.
We get it, it's your special interest. It ain't ours.
yeah. okay. I'm sure your world view is absolutely the standard and no one ever disagrees with you.
Inside the AI police tech firm whose data is being fed to ICE
If it bothers you so much, use the fucking built in filters. Block me. Do not make it my problem that you are choosing to ignore all of the safeguards put in place by the developers.
You're making it my problem to block every one of the thousands of people that post off-topic on their grievances in every light hearted thread, so no. I am going to make it your problem, because you're being annoying and socially inept. I'm sorry that that's not nice to hear, but I don't say it to be cruel, only in the hopes of achieving a better outcome for everyone.
Restricting yourself to posting about privacy and politics in threads that are relevant is not a big ask.
The only person being socially inept is the Non-American trying to tell an American that they should not share information of American oppressors with other Americans. The Non-American who went out of their way to call out and use a term that is commonly associated with the neuro-divergent for no reason other than to get a dig in, and make assumptions based on stereotyping.
Sorry buddy, I'm not changing. You are privileged. You are the "White Moderate" that Martin Luther King Jr wrote about in his letter in Birmingham Jail. What you see as an inconvience, others see as life saving information. Again, don't want to see it? You have the tools to fix it. Use them. You can complain about seeing activism after activism is no longer needed.
You misspelt slacktivism.
America sneezes and the whole world catches a cold - not just because you blow up international trade, but because you see your grievances as the most important thing, so that they are relevant in every situation, so we've all got to suffer through your self-absorption.
Do the internet equivalent of wearing a face mask.
I care.
it's the same company, is it not?
seems pretty fucking relevant if so
You didn't even give a single glance at the picture, did you?
sure did. content of the photo is irrelevant to the comment being made about the content in the title
They come pre-oxidized? Damn that's a real Time Saver
Don't they all come pre-oxidized? That's why you have to use the wire brush to scrape it off before soldering.
Pre seasoned
Someone put a home detail apron.
AI can probably do better than my budget-tier GIMP skills, but here ya go
I think artisanal GIMP has more meme heart anyway.
I tried
MS PaintKolourPaint, as is tradition, but removing the background without layers was too much effortThe jank is always part of the charm.
Nope, this is perfect. AI is completely wrong for shitposting. You chose well.
Also it's actually a pretty solid job.
That's it! I need to invent writing.
/c/[email protected]
These look like the workings of Obvious Plant
The logo on the bottom left suggests it was made by the True Wagner (legboot.com)
Consider yourself lucky, I couldn't even get any fittings, my store was so overrun by fucking Sea People.
Sometimes I could use some of these to convince the inspector I didn't touch the plumbing.
The most trusted brand in copper!
Surely he has to be the oldest memed real person
Mess-O-Potamias Best...
The Daily Show!
He can't keep getting away with this
lol got me there for a second
Not Ea-Nasir still scamming people thousands of years later 😭
He can't keep getting away with it!
Looks like these are already expired.
only MMLII years past the expiration, what could be the problem?
We had a minor freeze last year. I went to Home Depot and the last piece of pipe insulation was very mangled and the adhesive was falling off. I asked the clerk if they would discount it for me since all I needed was about 1 ft but would buy the damaged parts at a discount.
They got a supervisor who argued with me that “it’s suppose to be like that”. Like brother I’m trying to help y’all get this damaged product off the shelf. I’ll happily pay full price for undamaged product. We argued for about 5 minutes before he went to the back and brought me a piece from a brand new box.
This might be the most scholarly shitpost I've ever read. Bravo to everyone involved.
My dad collects coins, so I'm getting this for his birthday.
https://www.legboot.com/product/ea-nasir-copper-bullion-bar/#reviews
I don't know what your problem is. You need to sand those fittings bright and shiny before you solder them anyway....
So, fun fact. This is apparently called "Patina." It's the same thing that's on the statue of liberty, and funner fact, it actually makes it stronger!
Pretreated to fit into with your old pipes! No one will ever know you did work
https://lemmy.world/c/reallyshittycopper
What's the issue here? That's just a protective coating to keep the high-quality copper underneath safe during shipping and handling.
Who's Nanni?
He’s the author of the oldest documented customer complaint in the world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complaint_tablet_to_Ea-n%C4%81%E1%B9%A3ir
I don't understand what would be funny about this
Its a reference to the oldest known human name which is the name of a trader that sold shitty copper
Congrats on being today's lucky one in 10,000 people. ;)
Ea-Nasir is the world's oldest recorded corporate con artist. Shitty business owners getting away with being absolute bastards and getting off on making people angry is a thing older than fucking dirt.
The customer support at the bottom.
Just about every piece of text on the photo actually, the brand, the seal of approval thing etc
Man, what a legacy this man has. In th Lemmy app I use, the top of the was cut off in the thumbnail and so all I saw were the fittings and I was like man Ea Nasir, you still haven't improved your supply? And then I opened the image and yep he's at it again.
I don't see the issue.
Post this to next door I dare you. "Don't shop here!"
Not ideal, but you should ALWAYS sand down the area to be soldered anyway, so go ahead do the whole part.
c/anythingbutmetric:
https://discuss.tchncs.de/c/anythingbutmetric