Oval Office stunned as Trump fires Pearl Harbor joke at Japanese PM
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I can’t tell if this is dementia or his regular poor taste and racism.
Yes.
Also yes!
I hate Trump. Fuck Trump.
However, out of all the disgusting and ghastly shit Trump has done and said, this one is not that bad. Poor taste, sure. Racist? Come on. Did you even read it? It was actually witty compared to his typical knuckle dragging bullshit.
This guy is a sex predator, pedo who is trying to be a dictator and is taking our democratic rights away. Let's focus on that first. Don't let this petty bullshit be the focus.
I'll take my downvotes now.
I guess he could always do worse and joke about Hiroshima...but I wont give more ideas...
He does worse most times he opens his mouth. Calling a woman "piggy" to her face is considerably worse.
I personally think a Hiroshima reference to Japan's PM is a worse faux pas than calling someone piggy... But, hey, everybody has differing levels of sensitivity i guess.
Hiroshima reference?
The comment they replied to.
Are you asking what Hiroshima is?
It wasn't Hiroshima. He referenced Pearl Harbor.
They mentioned Hiroshima because the comment you replied to used it as a hypothetical.
Ah yes, much better.
On the level of personal insults, I guess he could compare the PM to a gueixa or something, no guardrails :/
I agree that's worse morally, but that not worse for the diplomatic relation between two of the worlds biggest economies.
Then maybe she shouldn't have spent the last year sucking his cock.
THIS is true, anyone who cowardly placates him for their short term benefit deserves to get the full tramp treatment.
Give it time. War aint over yet.
Yeah but this anecdote betrays his shitty personality. At the end of the day he is an unapologetic child rapist first and foremost, and it's hard to imagine what could surpass that depravity, but these little vignettes help paint the picture for people who have trouble believing the commander-in-chief is also the chomo-in-chief.
I'm sorry but this is terrible diplomacy and diminishes America's soft power on the world stage.
Yes we're moving into a multipolar world where soft power matters less but narrative building is always relevant and rubbing your allies the wrong way is just terrible strategy from any vantage point.
Trump's caused so much damage to Western credibity in so little time just by highlighting and widening fault lines at a records pace. This will create a vacuum that others will seek to occupy. This comment may not seem like much but it's another little cut that will slowly bleed away America and the West's standing in the world.
Has he really damaged Western credibility, or is he only damaging the USA’s credibility? I’ve not seen reports that Trump’s behaviour is impacting how others feel about Canada, France or Germany. Trump’s behaviour really only reflects on the global opinions of the USA, as other countries and their populations are generally intelligent enough to understand that he is only elected by one country; only represents one country; and is only the product of the population of one country.
Many Western countries follow along and act as cheerleaders for US foreign policy. Seven countries (including Canada, France and Germany) have already signed on to help secure the Strait of Hormuz which is only blocked because of yet another US misadventure.
A lot of these countries are small and in terms of global influence would be middle powers at best if not part of a Western bloc. Trump is slowly eroding the concept of a Western bloc so the idea of collective credibility or collective values is eroding with that.
Most of the rest of the world sees Western countries as vassals of the US and the question now is will they be able to assert their independence on the world stage or will they simply go along with the US as they often do.
Care to point to any reports that other nations are viewing those other Western countries poorly as a result of Trump’s actions?
Securing the Strait of Hormuz seems to be self-interested actions by those nations; an attempt to reduce the impact of higher oil prices on their own economies. It’s a far cry from the Western world following the USA into Iraq with boots on the ground 20-odd years ago.
Trump is eroding the idea of a USA-led Western bloc. Canada’s PM Carney is leading the charge to create new middle-power blocs to establish credibility outside of the USA’s influence. I’m yet to see reports that those measures are being viewed in a negative fashion by the rest of the world, but I’m happy to be corrected.
It's a matter of perspective. The Global South has always been acutely aware of Western hypocrisy and double standards, often being the victim of its perfidiousness. It's just that the mask seems to be coming off now so the internal contradictions are much more apparent. People like Alexander Stubbe (Finland's president) and Mark Carney understand this. Much of what Mark Carney said in his speech at Davos are perspectives that have been shared by prominent figures in the global south for some time now. He deserves credit for sharing it in a way that is palatable to Westerners. It remains to be seen if, in the abscense of the US as a central stabilizing force, an ex-US Western bloc would be able to maintain its global credibility and influence.
As the Global South (which makes up 80% of humanity) gains a more prominent voice on the global stage, certain internal contradictions will continue to move into the spotlight and Western credibility will be at risk of further erosion. The question is will the West be able to adapt in real time - acknowledging that the so called 'rules based international order' was never really a fair playing field but a tool to maintain Western hegemony - and take a leadership role in shaping the new world order.
Stubbe explains this well from a Western perspective in his book The Triangle of Power Rebalancing the New World Order (the triangle referring to the Global West, East and South).
Yeah, no shit. That's why I said all the negative stuff. Fucking relax.
Like half way through trumps first term I thought people would stop taking everything he says extremely literally but here we still are. People are out here thinking he's so far gone that he literally thinks he was president during pearl harbor and that his counterpart was running Japan. He has dementia but come on, you have to encounter reality deeper than just reading headlines and jerking yourself off with them.
This is just how he talks and has talked. He just made a stupid comparison while trying to deflect a question.
Right. We know what we're getting with this idiot.
Well...she's a huge fan of Trump so she deserves all she gets.
He has dementia, this isn’t it though. This is his true self.
Dropping the mask.
Why not both.
Both. He's always been racist, but dementia removes what filters do exist.
It's damn both.
With Donald you never have to choose.
Probably a mixture of all three, most people would be smart enough to keep that thought in their head.
Coming up with the analogy is just his regular poor taste and racism. Not realizing that it paints the US as the equivalent to the Japanese in WWII is his dementia.
He's brought it up before in dealing with Japanese diplomats
Interesting that Trump seems to understand that we "did a pearl harbor" on Iran, but somehow still thinks that we are the "good guys"? He almost got self aware for a second there.
He doesn't believe in good guys, he thinks everyone is just as evil as him so it makes his continuous assault on all limits of human decency OK in his mind.
Yup, this is why his accusations are always confessions. Projection is the psychological phenomenon where you refuse to see yourself as bad, so you justify your bad actions with “everyone does bad stuff like this, so it doesn’t make me bad to do them.” But when all of your interactions are colored by that “everyone does bad stuff like this” part, it means you project those bad intentions onto others and default to assuming they’re just as bad as you are. So when he’s accusing people of bad things, it is because he has projected those intentions onto them.
And Trump’s narcissism refuses to let him do any kind of soul-searching that may lead him to stop projecting. And thus, every accusation is an admission.
I've heard the neat phrase ‘reverse cargo cult’ in regard to such views. Applied to a group of people, though, as cults typically require.
Wow, gotta read that paper now:
Source: https://bfi.uchicago.edu/working-papers/the-reverse-cargo-cult-why-authoritarian-governments-lie-to-their-people/
People in some places are just convinced the rest of the world is just as bad — this is the context in which I've heard the term.
USians' incessant belief that travelling to other countries is very unsafe is probably one example of this.
It's puritanism, the country was founded on it and even though there have been waves of modernization, it's still a puritannical deeply sick society at heart.
Most blatantly with his rambling about 'Americans have to flush 3 times, 5 times'. I thought what the hell is wrong with the water pressure where he lives?
Then I read that he likely flushed evidence down the toilet. Of course. HE has a problem with destroying evidence in his toilet, so 'Americans' have problems with their toilet. I'm not even sure if he has the ability to differentiate between his problems and anybody elses.
He learned that from Putin. The difference is that Putin is well aware he's the most evil.
Epstein was his best friend. And the horrific shit that happened in that island is so much worse than anybody seems to be willing to believe. But just raping kids, but torturing them to death as well, for a start.
Think of the number of the parasitic "elite" he saw there. Of course he believes everyone else is evil, too. As far as he is concerned, he saw the proof of it. In their world, that kind of horrid vile behavior is, in fact, normal.
Well yeah we all see the evil in the world, but i guess what i think defines people is whether they choose to be part of the problem or the solution. Just clarifying that's no excuse even if it's some kind of explanation for trump or anyone else's depravity.
I mean, you can do a pre-emptive surprise strike against a foreign military and still be the "good guys". It's just that we aren't the good guys when we did this pre-emptive military strike against a foreign military.... Or grade school girls... Because our top military brass has been replaced by retards loyal to trump.
Name one good guy that did a "pre-emptive" (whatever that means in this context, because Iran for sure wouldn't have attacked the US) strike against a foreign military.
Han-Solo
Iran absolutely would. How haven't you heard of the imminent threat of an attack?! It has been there for 47 years man!
Yes, maybe Iran would if it wasn't preemptively attacked every year. But also, are we considering Iran being the good guy?
Everybody is the hero in their own story. Incidentally, this is something Maga do not understand; they honestly believe everyone else just wants them to fail, that we all know we're wrong and trying to take them down, anyway. For them, we all actively chose evil.
But, my point is "good guy" is inherently subjective. But that means you cannot preemptively strike and not be the villain, as well.
There is no "good guy" in the theater of war, though; to be involved is to be as evil as everyone else there.
If you assume he thinks of himself as Nazi Germany it makes more sense.
Japan didn't notify Hitler of the planned attack.
If you’re stunned you have not been paying attention to the last ten years.
Not to worry. He’s going to be SLAMMED for this. Perhaps even someone will BLAST him. And since journalism is literal Pokémon moves now he might even be CONFUSED or HYPNOTIZED
President Trump used DISTRACTION! It's not very effective against Epstein Files...
It was a BOMBSHELL statement.
Lol Pokemon moves
"Foreign minister leers at president; it is super effective!"
Or even just 9 months ago, when he told the leader of Germany that D-Day "was not a pleasant day for you."
That wasn’t a joke. He was not joking. He’s an abusive asshole.
He's a sociopath, no two ways about it. I remember a story his nephew told about bringing his developmentally disabled son (can't remember the exact condition) to the White House and having multiple meetings with Trump about setting up a bill that would benefit Americans, including his own great-nephew. In one of those meetings, after it had all seemed positive, everyone left the room but Trump and his nephew, to whom Trump immediately said "be a lot easier and less expensive if all these disabled kids would just die".
Sauce
The disabled were one of the first groups rounded up by the Nazis in concentration camps.
The US is building a lot of concentration camps. It'll probably be fine.
Its crazy how well he represents the worst of america so well. Let me tell you folks no one does it better. The best people are all saying it. Top people in fact.
They tell me, sir..... They come to me and say, mr president you do it the best. Embodying the most tremendous and bad stuff about the US. Nobody does it like you sir.....
This is what we deserve for decades of celebrity worship, it is strangely appropriate that he is our President
More like the apathy about the governent id think
Does he not realize what he’s implying based on the ultimate fate of imperial Japan after they did the Pearl Harbor?
I guarantee you he does not.
Also, Germany (Japan’s biggest ally) was pissed when they heard about Japan’s attack, because they were hoping to conquer all of Europe before they even considered taking on America. The surprise attack was a surprise to Germany too. And not a welcome one.
And sure enough, America’s allies all balked when Trump begged them for help in securing the strait.
How did you not realise the obviousness of the answer while typing? He so far from being able to comprehend anything on that level. It's like asking if a toddler can't understand the nuances of different ideologies on the same side of the left-right political system.
Time for Japan to dump their 1 trillion in US bonds. That'll be worse than Pearl Harbor for them.
Japan is like the rest of the world, they bought into the idea US was too big to fail. You can't just "dump" $1T in bonds.
BRICS replacing USD is like how we declare every year the year of the linux desktop lol.
When USD goes down, its gonna bring down the world with it
lol.lol
...lol ☹️
Haha
It was the only one that survived along with lmao
RIP roflcopter
Alternatively we can transition to the Eurodollar, which some people trade with already.
yeah that was super hilarious never has a double lol been more appropriate you should be a comedian
Remember that the US nuked Japan in response. So I guess he'd be ok if Iran nuked the US in response?
Twice.
They also put a tooon of Japanese people in camps
Same thing they're starting to do to immigrants, trans people, and dissenters
They did not nuke Japan as a response to Pearl Harbor. It was a response to Japan stupidly ignoring the Potsdam Declaration when Germany had already been defeated.
How would you know what FDRs motivation was?
"This is for Pearl Harbor, I've been waiting a long time for this".
It could have been his response to Pearl Harbor, so your correction is REJECTED
FDR was dead before the first nuclear test dentonation ever occured....
So I can pretty conclusively say that dropping atomic bombs on Japan was not his response for pearl harbor.
What about zombie FDR. He probably made Trump attack Iran too
I'm going to nitpick a bit but FDR was president and made the decision to go to war with Japan over pearl harbor. Truman made the final decision to drop the nuclear weapons on Japan.
Roosevelt had likely a plan since the Manhattan project was under his presidency but Truman inherited that.
I think it's mostly accepted that the USA did not nuke Japan specifically because of pearl harbor but more to force a rapid surrender. Japan was being extremely stubborn and the estimated loss of US forces was very high to continue the war.
I also think FDR and his admin were motivated to pursue the Manhattan project in the first place due to the intel that the Nazis were also researching nuclear weapons. Nothing to do with Japan.
The exhibit at the Hiroshima Peace Museum argues that Truman dropped the bombs to end the war before the Soviets could invade and to avoid the partition of Japan.
I'd just like to take a moment to say how glad I am that most US presidents didn't have social media to tell us their thoughts 24/7.
It's very possible that some of them were just as dumb as their 21st-century counterparts, but at least we don't have the tweets to prove it.
There have been plenty of dumb in the esteemed position of POTUS, but I would like to make the brave claim that Trump is on an entirely different level intellectually compared to most, if not all, previous presidents.
Murrika, where we do whatever we want, especially ourselves!
Bro. The people coming to his defense is mind blowing. "That's not what he meant!", "He didn't mean it in a racist way!" Shut the fuck up. He knows what he's saying. He doesn't care. The mental gymnastics his cult does for him is crazy. Just own up to it. He's the racist pedophile Uncle who makes bad jokes at a family gathering that you wouldn't leave your 10 year old with.
It is what it is.
It's the same shit they repeated on the campaign trail god I got tired of being told "it's all hyperbole" from people I know didn't even know what the word meant
Something something narcissist's prayer.
I'm noticing more discourse on Lemmy. I'm not saying I want Lemmy to be a hive mind. But there's clearly more and more comments seemingly just giving really "wrong side of history" takes.
"Oval Office stunned..."
No, they weren't. No one is surprised when Trump makes a complete ass of himself in front of other world leaders, it's sort of his thing.
That headline surprised me too. Other than Takeuchi, why would anyone accustomed to being in the room be surprised that he would say something stupid?
I don't work near the tangerine, I can't stand listening to him, I wish I never had to hear his voice again.
The only I didn't expect in this was that he was in the room with the Japanese PM. Not even really a surprise, just didn't know that was happening.
If anything, they'd be stunned that he didn't just walk up and violate her in some way; Unlikely as that would be, given she's a grown adult woman.
Americans must be so proud of their commander in chief. Well at least 40% still are. That's all you need to know about the United States. In regards to the world, you lost all respect and trust that took 80 years to built. If any other foreign leader would use this language, he would be in a white padded cell within hours.
I actually think someone like trump could exist in more countries than we are willing to acknowledge. He plays terribly as someone else's leader, but as your own leader, people seem to love the jingoism, bravado, and shamelessness in a lot of countries.
Indeed they do but in other countries there are mechanisms in place to ensure you don't get a cosplay dictator. In the Netherlands, Wilders was elected who is a Trump wannabe, but thanks for the proper democratic system in the Netherlands, he was severely limited in what crazy shit he wanted to do. Obviously the government collapsed and now they have a much more middle of the road government, which means more will get done. It is about checks and balances but Trump does whatever he wants and no one stops him.
Yeah the executive has been out of control here for decades, it just took trump to make that obvious.
People like him do exist in other countries. But without a cult of personality they don't really achieve very much, and no one can do cults like the US.
The MEGA equivalents in other countries are actually having a bit of a problem because everyone can see a live demonstration of what their policies would actually look like, and no one likes it.
That's basically what happened in Australia's last election. The Liberals were trying to play up culture war shit & wanted to emulate DOGE, and it backfired hard. I was waiting to lock up a polling place for the night in Western Australia which is a couple of hours behind the eastern states, by the time they'd finished packing up the votes to be counted it was already so lopsided that even if every remaining vote was Liberal it wouldn't have mattered.
yeah, calling bullshit on that oft repeated trope, it's just Dutton was really on the nose, how do we know ? witness the rise and rise of One Nation
alas, a huge rise in this stupid in Australia.
Spoiler alert: this country never deserved that respect...
This is the funniest fucking thing he's ever done.
To a prior PM, it would be in extremely bad taste. But this bitch is nakedly fascist.
I died laughing! 😂 I like how silent the room just went after the 2 sec before people realized what he just said.
Btw the Japan Primeminister is also a Japanese MAGA so I don't really give a f about her either. Let them swin in their own nationalist poop.
anyone want to share? I can't see the joke.
"One thing, you don't want to signal too much when we go in," Trump said. "We went in very hard and we didn't tell anyone about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn't you tell me about Pearl Harbor?"
Legitimately a good joke, probably not during a diplomatic meeting though.
It's not offensive by Trump's standards but it also isn't really funny.
Lol, that shit is funny. Irrespective, the guy is fuckinh retarded and a plague on the world
What makes it funny? Seems like nowadays whatever is insulting is called funny
Different people have different senses of humor. It's subjective.
Of course, so what makes it funny to you?
I never said it was funny.
From the article:
Trump was what at that time? A middle aged nobody?
Trump was born in 1946. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in 1941. The war he dodged with his "bone spurs" was Vietnam, not WWII.
he was 5.
-5.
yes, my bad.
Nope, Trump is a very early boomer. He wasn’t born until After Pearl Harbor happened.
Are you sure he wasn't 50 back then? I mean... look at him!
well I was wrong so maybe you're right!
big oof
It's old man jokes like these that I understand. People clutching their pearls online while literally no one reacted the way this article says when they were in the room. Even the PM gave a visible smirk because she knows he's an old senile moron that can be easily manipulated.
Yeah am I bad for literally laughing out loud at this? unbelievable stuff
How was it funny?
Guess his joke bombed.
Wow, I thought the title is exaggerated but the room did fell silent after that joke. Even Trump seemed to notice it didn't land that well. Impressive.
That is something I don't believe
The one thing he's really good at is reading the crowd.
The biggest buyer of US debt everyone. Lucky for Trump she's a boot licker.
Japan has been known to fire/jail their PMs so she might be pushed to do something like sell-off their US bonds.
I fucking hate him...
Joke!? Motherfuckers get the hell out of here with that. It was an insult.
Nobody is mentioning he said why didn't you warn me.
I caught that too and was flabbergasted.
His handlers would probably just claim that he meant "Why didn't you warn POTUS?"
But that doesn't mean that every news outlet shouldn't be pointing out that what he said, in addition to being extremely rude and undiplomatic, was utterly nonsensical.
If you compare his performance now with videos of him from his first term, the decline is extremely obvious.
He lowered the bar to the ground & then went at it with a shovel. Ooooo dayumn.
"Why didn't you tell me about pearl harbor? I was -5 years old at the time"
I haven't read anything about this interview because I'm preemptively feeling the embarrassment and rage of what our Prime Minister will say or promise to cater to the orange shit stain.
The dementia really reduces the inhibitions, doesn't it?
The USA has never felt shame for dropping two nuclear bombs on civilians without warning. Which is why it is likely to happen in the Middle East.
shame? the usa is fucking proud of it.
I can't think of a bigger war crime in human history.
Sampson option
The element of surprise was totally key to winning this war. When you kill ailing 86 year old pope, and 160 grade school girls, you make everyone in Iran immediately see the virtues of Mossad/CIA style democracy. -- Don Tzu
What a fucking moron and stoops to level of fucking Tojo. US Navy intelligence broke the Japanese code in 1937 and they knew exactly when the fleet departed and their target.
I guess I'm not an expert here, but this sounds like garbage.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/us-intelligence-failures-pearl-harbor
I was curious about what the Japanese side's take on Trump's remark would be, so I found this news report from a Japanese outlet:
https://youtu.be/gy-4-iySD-s
Try translating the comments by yourself. You'd find that most people are blaming the Japanese reporter who asked "why didn't you notify us before attacking Iran." They say that of course they wouldn't tell us (Japanese) about a surprise attack beforehand and that this question is stupid and rude.
Personally though I think this remark is rude regardless of what questions were asked. Also I think that the question itself may be stupid but isn't rude.
The question should have been phrased "why did you not form a Coalition before your attack on Iran" but that would have confused Trump.
Given the fact that he also wanted to approach China for support I think him actually attempting to get consensus would have been more chaotic than the current timeline.
There's been enough blue on blue action as it is without trying to get nations who don't really like each other to work together
Why? Seriously, why are they stunned? He was a crass, low class, racist thug well before the dementia hit. Why would anyone expect better?
how to influence people and win friends.pdf
Only thing that bombed harder then that joke was pearl harbor.
People defending the Donvict with "He was joking" need to give up because he is terribly unfunny and lacks a healthy sense of humor.
I dunno, I can think of a couple things...
Like Dresden, or Nagasaki
This guy needs to be put down like a rabid dog.
Not according to republicans and the GOP that controls them.
A shame the Japanese rep couldn't afford a jokeback like "you were a twinkle in the milkman's eye at the time".
anything to keep epstein files from the news, by having TRUMP being a clown
How the japanese prime minister visibly winced
These Nazi She -wolves all think if they kiss Trump's shitty ass they will get special treatment, see Giorgia Meloni and Danielle Smith.
That's a weird and sexist take.
Meloni doesn't really butter up to Trump and male leaders kiss Trumps ass as much as any female leader
Japan actually tried to coordinate a formal declaration of war to be submitted immediately before the attack commenced. But due to technical and logistical problems, the communique was not read by American diplomats until after the attack.
This is the part of this that is such a political faux pas. Japan does not consider Pearl Harbor a surprise attack, and their nationalist movement right now probably won't be happy to have their favorite PM be the whipping boy of the US president. I won't say Japan is right on this, but it's just the difference in how this story is presented.
Good riddance, hopefully this creates an awful situation for her politically at home as she is pushed leftward or rightward in retaliation.
For all their strongman posturing, I feel the Japanese nationalists take whatever US rhetoric up their uncensored buttholes. They're always belittling Chinese and Korean people but seem to scurry away into their caves whenever there is a conflict with the US.
FREE DUMB!!
Trump is dump.
No fucking thanks to the rich assholes who put him into power, not just those who voted for him for the worst single-minded reasons.
If he's not actually courting war coming upon him, it would be nearly every country except maybe Israel and Russia boycotting from ever making business with not until he and his gang are removed.
STUNNED!
Ok, well, probably not that stunned...
Does anyone know the Japanese response yet? Or are they staying quiet?
See their joint statement
You will not be pleased.
Thanks.
Yeah, non statement as per MO.
BRO does this fucking retard not get that the ENTIRE US economy is quite literally in HER hands? He should be grovelling at her feet with the amount of economic leverage her country possesses. But apparently the only leverage trump cares about is Mossad blackmail material.
Yk sometimes I feel like he actually intends to self sabotage his own economy on purpose, for example by invading Iran which locked off the Straight of Hormuz, not only is that disastrous because of the obvious oil cut off but it's the choke point for the Arab Gulf dictatorships which enforce the petrodollar system - no GCC = no petrodollar = American empire collapses - furthermore almost all of the GCC's food is imported from the straight of fucking Hormuz and because of how dry they are about 60% of their water supply is desalinated, with their desalination plants being hit. Once the Gulf States fall the US falls.
Then there's the threatening allies, tariffs, disrespect etc.
It's almost as if he's compromised the exact way all the kompromat points he would be.
Please do Germany next.
ITT: Lemmites Letting the mask slip
People can find it funny for several reasons, some may be laughing at the pure stupidity of comparing the two. I would say we have seen few countries Trump considers allies. And Russia, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia seem to be the only 3 re-occuring allies he seems to consider.
Which one of these is Israel?
Touche, I'm not sure I can tell the difference between Israel and Florida at the moment, Israel gets more benefits than Florida does though
And Argentina lmao
Stop making vertical territories. Just stop it. If it's a long skinny shape on a map, it shouldn't exist.
All countries should be hexagon shaped for mathematical elegance!
I mean, out of all the heinous fascistic shit Trump has done, this is probably among the least egregious. Plus as a dark comedy enjoyer, I can appreciate this on a "who the fuck starts a conversation like that; I just sat down" sort of level.
This is pretty harmless, especially by his standards.
I don't see a problem laughing at this.
If this is what makes you clutch your pearls then you are going to audibly gasp at all the other shit Trump has said.
Bro ive never even seen someone wearing pearls
This has nothing to do with the other stuff trump has said.
And everything to do with Lemmites reaction to what was said here. And how it relates to the other stuff trump has said.
Since like half of the comments are saying this was racist can anyone explain how?
Genuinely what the fuck are you guys on about. I would understand if she was an ethnically Japanese leader/diplomat from Brazil or something but what. So obsessed with race that you forgot Japan is a country?
It's a stupid deflection but it's not racist. The thought process is pretty obvious 'Why didn't you tell Japan before the attack' -> 'To keep the element of surprise' uhh Japan + Surprise attack -> 'Who know's better than Japan about the value of stealth for a surprise attack, like pearl harbor'.
He just doesn't even have the capacity to coherently make the bad comparison. He also completely whiffed the cadence of the joke he was trying to make causing it to come out even weirder. It's a brain in decline trying to fall in to patterns that it used to be able to somewhat execute on but is now just grasping at straws.
*thing bad, so anything negative about thing must be correct and must not be questioned. I hate lemmy sometimes.
You disagree with his comment being racist? Well since you're not with us, you're against us! There's no middle ground, no nuance and no discourse in this community!
Yeah people make fun of ww2 germany all the time and it's totally fine
Meh both are fascist. The Japanese government and the Japanese in general are tone deaf to be fair. They just happen to receive their own medicine.
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It was a funny joke tho hahahajaj
And she just sat there like a little puppy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ha ha ha
I don't see what the problem is.
Which is why you have no close friends.
My close friends are Neo Nazis