The latter is literally illegal, and has been since 1866. No portraits or likeness of a living person may be put on US currency, bonds, or securities. For very good reason.
Besides being illegal, that is not a very wise thing to do. Given enough time, the majority of those coins in circulation are going to be defaced. Of course, you’d have to be looney to use a coin for a dollar in the first place, but what do I know, eh?
I'd gather them up and melt them down into ingots, then sell the ingot for scrap. It would probably become a net loss overall, but anything to rid the nation of that insufferable traitor's visage on our currency.
The US Americans are so screwed. Just take a look at Russia if you want to see the future of the US. Widespread poverty, endless war, crony capitalism with a strong and untouchable oligarchy, all ruled by an incompetent but brutal dictator and his loyalists. At least Russia has history and an intellectual class, the US is devoid of anything grounding it. It's going to be an unending clown show of horrors.
lol you think he US doesn’t have an intellectual class? Just one big country of dummos, huh? The portrayal of the US and the shape of our leadership definitely makes it seem that way but there are a massive number of intellectuals in the US. The current admin is trying to drive them out (or at least inadvertently doing so), but they are certainly a reality. Funnily enough, a huge number of them are first or second gen immigrants because the intellectually inclined would come here for the school and the opportunities.
Believe me. If Trump was as competent as Putin we'd be fucked even faster. His sheer incompetence was the chance given to the american people, but most of them are on the same level.
look at Russia if you want to see the future of the US. Widespread poverty, endless war, crony capitalism with a strong and untouchable oligarchy, all ruled by an incompetent but brutal dictator and his loyalists.
The future of the US? That's the present! The future is much worse because of the massive concentration/death camps being constructed.
Yeah, yeah, "but that's the present!". That's the problem with Americans: you think you've seen poverty and state violence, but you have not. There are levels of misery that most of you couldn't even imagine. But you won't have to for much longer, MAGA is taking you there.
It doesn’t change directions during war. It always faces the olive branch, to show a commitment to uphold peace during peacetime, and a hope to return to peace during wartime. But the arrows are always held, as a symbol of the capacity for force when necessary. Maybe it used to switch sides? But it has always faced the olive branch since at least the end of WW2.
That “it has always faced the branch” thing is a large part of why the branch being absent is so jarring. Now it’s just facing… An empty foot? And it is extremely concerning, because it shows a marked shift in imagery from the regime. They’re not just posting dog whistles and pretending they don’t know… They’re actively abandoning established symbolic images in favor of more aggressive ones.
It doesn't now, it did you until iirc like 1960ish. One shoulder would have peace the other would face war, during war a few manufacturers made sets that only faced war hence war eagles.
It has not "always" faced the branch. Literally 30 seconds of Google or Bing or whatever will tell you that much at least it's not true.
I didn't say that, and I don't believe that, so don't put words in my mouth.
The detainment of the Japanese was unconscionable, and easily the biggest mistep of FDR's career, but he did a LOT of things right for America and the World, and on balance his good FAR outweighed the bad.
FDR's was the strongest supporter of labor that this nation has ever had, and his New Deal was the best Worker-oriented program in history. Because of his support of labor and unions, we got all the workplace protections that we have today:
FDR’s labor reforms, primarily enacted through the New Deal (1933–1938), established federal rights for workers, including the first national minimum wage, a 40-hour workweek, child labor bans, and the right to collective bargaining. Key legislation included the Wagner Act (1935) for unionization and the Fair Labor Standards Act (1938).
Do you think we got things like paid vacations, sick days, and 8 hour work days because the generosity of Corporations? No, we FORCED them to recognize workplace health/safety/environmental regulations, and treat workers like humans instead of animals, or machines, to be exploited to death, and discarded, and FDR was the president that championed all that, and made it happen.
And don't forget, he also established Social Security, so we don't have an Army of old people camping in our streets of every American city.
Then after all that, FDR won WWII, and kept us all from having to learn to speak German and/or Japanese.
So yeah, out of four terms, in which he set American workers on a dignified path for their daily labor, and saved the world from one of the most psychotic nations in the history of the world, he made one bad mistake by succumbing to the fears of the nation during one of our darkest periods. While it should always be acknowledged as a serious mistake, it should never fully define his entire legacy.
He was as far from that system as an president has ever been. He was strongly pro-Labor, pro-Union, pro-Worker. He created Social Security and the modern American social safety net.
Conservatives hated him, and there was even talk of a coup by the business interests.
He is the closest we've had to a Democratic Socialist, and America, and the World would be much better off if his style of Democrat had become the trend, instead of the Republican Lite bullshit we ended up with.
I didn't say that, and I don't believe that, so don't put words in my mouth.
Ok, but
he did a LOT of things right for America and the World, and on balance his good FAR outweighed the bad.
The very next paragraph, and the rest of the post, is essentially "I said that, and I believe that".
Pointing out that he also did things you like is justifying the atrocities he committed. If a man throws people into concentration camps that's the only thing we should ever talk about when his name comes up. There's no coming back from that. Your attitude is giving me "Mussolini made the trains run on time" vibes.
I never said that anything "excuses" the mistake of the Japanese Internet camps. I said that they should be acknowledged as the horrific mistake that it was, but ON BALANCE, he was a highly successful president, even with that black mark. That's not excusing it, it is treating history responsibly, and not trying weaponize it to advance an agenda.
Millions died fighting in WW2, or were gravely wounded, and many were draftees, like my father-in-law, who didn't want to go, but were forced to. Many, many American families made terrible involuntary sacrifices for the war, and unfortunately, the Japanese were forced to contribute to the war by their involuntary internment.
It wasn't the best situation, but considering the sacrifices that many Americans made, it wasn't the worst either. The Japanese internment camps weren't pleasant, but they weren't Auschwitz either. Families weren't being separated as they came off the trains, with some sent to work, and the rest to the gas chambers. I'm sure there were many Americans actually fighting on the front lines of the war that would have been happy to be in an interment camp back in America, rather than having German bullets whizzing by their heads in the Battle of the Bulge or Okinawa.
You are concerned with 100,000 that were wrongfully interned, instead of the millions of lives that were saved by the war, and the Japanese internment was considered a necessary step in the fast-moving preparations for the war. They worried about how deep any Japanese government influence might have reached, and they couldn't wait to find out when a spy sabotaged their war efforts, so they took a broad stroke to avoid it. Whether that decision was right or wrong, it was a different war, and a different time, and applying your contemporary attitudes to history, without properly considering the historical context, is lazy historical thinking.
Unions, Labor, Social Security, Employment Reforms, End of Child Labor, workplace Health/ Safety/ Environmental regulations, etc. have improved, and even saved, the lives of millions of people, including you and literally EVERYONE you know, and yet you would surrender all of it, because the president who did all that, made a mistake during the worst war in human history.
Apparently the difference between you and I is that I don't believe there's room for a "yeah, but...". I don't believe in weighing the good and the bad when it comes to evil people.
I don't care if he passed social security. I don't care if he sold Stalin and Churchill the weapons they needed to win WW2. I don't care if he cured cancer, cholera, and the common cold. Just like I don't care that Hitler built the Autobahn. He's still fucking Hitler.
FDR illegally seized the property of 100,000 Americans and threw them in concentration camps based solely on their race. End of legacy. Fuck FDR and get his fascist ass face off my dime.
Cash physically wears out over time, so some amount needs to be re-minted each year to replace the ones that are too worn to be used as currency. In the case of bills, most countries also make updates to the design and materials in an attempt to deter counterfeiting. Coin usually gets small cosmetic changes every so often, like in Canada, every so often the "heads" side is updated with a new portrait of the monarch (currently King Charles)
I definitely see why paper money needs remade all the time. But coins do seem to last way longer. I don't get how there could possibly be a shortage of pennies unless they are recycling them in mass, unnecessarily.
Maybe if it were a closed loop system, but my intuition says that’s far from the case. I’ve seen buckets of pennies saved… whole tens of dollars, taking up an entire shoebox vault, just to never be touched. I’ve seen pennies on the road, desert, forests, … people throw them into fountains, lakes… all that, and then yes they also wear down slowly too.
They’re like little boys only with real instead of toy guns.
Even worse.
Their toy soldiers are real people. Most people know someone somehow that's in the military
They’ve been blowing up fishermen from afar as a test run for playing with these ”toys”. They don’t care.
Before:
After, and only available for 2026:
In other news, the Treasury is drafting a new $1 coin with the fuck-knuckle on both sides
Drafted image (WIP)
The latter is literally illegal, and has been since 1866. No portraits or likeness of a living person may be put on US currency, bonds, or securities. For very good reason.
When has the law ever stopped these shit stains?
Haha do you guys remember laws
Honestly, making him eligible is entirely acceptable.
Like they tried to do in the image on the back of that “coin.” What a blown opportunity sigh
Maybe the treasury knows something that we don't?
A laser cutter could etch "TRAITOR" across his face in bulk
I'd like to find something anti-Donvict to stamp on all my paper money so it circulates with that on there.
Any ideas?
How much does a laser cutter cost?
Never done metal, but it looks like what people like for it is called a "fiber laser"
They seem to go for about $1400 but have not shopped around or tried to pick up a used one
Besides being illegal, that is not a very wise thing to do. Given enough time, the majority of those coins in circulation are going to be defaced. Of course, you’d have to be looney to use a coin for a dollar in the first place, but what do I know, eh?
(I get the feeling the joke was intentional)
But the best bit is the two dollar coin, the tooney.
It definitely was haha, tucked the eh in at the end for an additional hint. I actually think they work quite nice.
I love a dollar coin. They last longer and are superior to paper. Love the Euro system. 1 and 2 euro coins, bills start at 5 euro
That was mostly a play on the Canadian dollar coin being called a looney, I actually think $1/$2 work well as coins.
So much easier to use in vending machines!
Wow, they really want to emphasize the year 1776 for some unknown, totally not racist, sexist, ableist, eugenicist, fucked up reason...
I will happily throw these in the trash where they belong if I ever come across them.
I'd gather them up and melt them down into ingots, then sell the ingot for scrap. It would probably become a net loss overall, but anything to rid the nation of that insufferable traitor's visage on our currency.
Upgrade from ass-pennies to ass-dollars, then sell them to Magats online.
I fucking knew he’d try to put his face on currency, so glad it’s illegal however will that stop them?
Pretty wild how people's lives are still controlled by food chips in 2026.
Capitalism is hell.
Ew
Can't believe the USA fell to such insufferable edgelords. Just kill me already please.
Wait until you find out about the literal enslavers who started it all.
Jesus, what edgelords.
Country run by assholes
Christ, I thought this was an Onion headline at first.
The bird looking at it's empty foot like it left home without its wallet again
It’s looking for its Florsheim shoe that used to be there. It was a couple of sizes too big, so it fell off during flight.
The US Americans are so screwed. Just take a look at Russia if you want to see the future of the US. Widespread poverty, endless war, crony capitalism with a strong and untouchable oligarchy, all ruled by an incompetent but brutal dictator and his loyalists. At least Russia has history and an intellectual class, the US is devoid of anything grounding it. It's going to be an unending clown show of horrors.
lol you think he US doesn’t have an intellectual class? Just one big country of dummos, huh? The portrayal of the US and the shape of our leadership definitely makes it seem that way but there are a massive number of intellectuals in the US. The current admin is trying to drive them out (or at least inadvertently doing so), but they are certainly a reality. Funnily enough, a huge number of them are first or second gen immigrants because the intellectually inclined would come here for the school and the opportunities.
Don’t conflate the caricature with the character.
Believe me. If Trump was as competent as Putin we'd be fucked even faster. His sheer incompetence was the chance given to the american people, but most of them are on the same level.
we can just say 'capitalism'
The future of the US? That's the present! The future is much worse because of the massive concentration/death camps being constructed.
uhhhh
Yeah, yeah, "but that's the present!". That's the problem with Americans: you think you've seen poverty and state violence, but you have not. There are levels of misery that most of you couldn't even imagine. But you won't have to for much longer, MAGA is taking you there.
If Russia has widespread policies, I wonder how sanctions have contributed to it?
If you have to act this tough, you’re just a pussy acting tough.
Fuck these little dick assholes.
War mongers did what?
Literal warhawk on the dime.
War eagle. It's a nod to wartime Colonel insignia, during war the eagle faces the arrows during peace it faces the olive branch.
It doesn’t change directions during war. It always faces the olive branch, to show a commitment to uphold peace during peacetime, and a hope to return to peace during wartime. But the arrows are always held, as a symbol of the capacity for force when necessary. Maybe it used to switch sides? But it has always faced the olive branch since at least the end of WW2.
That “it has always faced the branch” thing is a large part of why the branch being absent is so jarring. Now it’s just facing… An empty foot? And it is extremely concerning, because it shows a marked shift in imagery from the regime. They’re not just posting dog whistles and pretending they don’t know… They’re actively abandoning established symbolic images in favor of more aggressive ones.
The bird looks confused now, just liking at an empty talon
as a nod to the fasces.
It doesn't now, it did you until iirc like 1960ish. One shoulder would have peace the other would face war, during war a few manufacturers made sets that only faced war hence war eagles.
It has not "always" faced the branch. Literally 30 seconds of Google or Bing or whatever will tell you that much at least it's not true.
You may have meant since but "always" is simply inaccurate.
It's not changed during war or peace.
It carries arrows to show readiness for war and faces the olive branch to show a preference for peace, since it was modified by Truman in 1945.
1951 and they are no longer approved for use yet they are still called war eagles and that's what they're evoking.
They had to go after the coin with FDR, because conservatives REALLY hate FDR. So petty.
FDR threw 100,000 Americans into concentration camps. Idc what conservatives think of him, fuck that guy.
He also created the social safety net system that has saved millions of lives.
And in your opinion that excuses seizing innocent people's property and throwing them in concentration camps?
I didn't say that, and I don't believe that, so don't put words in my mouth.
The detainment of the Japanese was unconscionable, and easily the biggest mistep of FDR's career, but he did a LOT of things right for America and the World, and on balance his good FAR outweighed the bad.
FDR's was the strongest supporter of labor that this nation has ever had, and his New Deal was the best Worker-oriented program in history. Because of his support of labor and unions, we got all the workplace protections that we have today:
Do you think we got things like paid vacations, sick days, and 8 hour work days because the generosity of Corporations? No, we FORCED them to recognize workplace health/safety/environmental regulations, and treat workers like humans instead of animals, or machines, to be exploited to death, and discarded, and FDR was the president that championed all that, and made it happen.
And don't forget, he also established Social Security, so we don't have an Army of old people camping in our streets of every American city.
Then after all that, FDR won WWII, and kept us all from having to learn to speak German and/or Japanese.
So yeah, out of four terms, in which he set American workers on a dignified path for their daily labor, and saved the world from one of the most psychotic nations in the history of the world, he made one bad mistake by succumbing to the fears of the nation during one of our darkest periods. While it should always be acknowledged as a serious mistake, it should never fully define his entire legacy.
Only to save the capitalist (fascist) system. Intentions matter sometimes.
He was as far from that system as an president has ever been. He was strongly pro-Labor, pro-Union, pro-Worker. He created Social Security and the modern American social safety net.
Conservatives hated him, and there was even talk of a coup by the business interests.
He is the closest we've had to a Democratic Socialist, and America, and the World would be much better off if his style of Democrat had become the trend, instead of the Republican Lite bullshit we ended up with.
He pivoted to the positions that win him the election. Please 🥺
Ok, but
The very next paragraph, and the rest of the post, is essentially "I said that, and I believe that".
Pointing out that he also did things you like is justifying the atrocities he committed. If a man throws people into concentration camps that's the only thing we should ever talk about when his name comes up. There's no coming back from that. Your attitude is giving me "Mussolini made the trains run on time" vibes.
I never said that anything "excuses" the mistake of the Japanese Internet camps. I said that they should be acknowledged as the horrific mistake that it was, but ON BALANCE, he was a highly successful president, even with that black mark. That's not excusing it, it is treating history responsibly, and not trying weaponize it to advance an agenda.
Millions died fighting in WW2, or were gravely wounded, and many were draftees, like my father-in-law, who didn't want to go, but were forced to. Many, many American families made terrible involuntary sacrifices for the war, and unfortunately, the Japanese were forced to contribute to the war by their involuntary internment.
It wasn't the best situation, but considering the sacrifices that many Americans made, it wasn't the worst either. The Japanese internment camps weren't pleasant, but they weren't Auschwitz either. Families weren't being separated as they came off the trains, with some sent to work, and the rest to the gas chambers. I'm sure there were many Americans actually fighting on the front lines of the war that would have been happy to be in an interment camp back in America, rather than having German bullets whizzing by their heads in the Battle of the Bulge or Okinawa.
You are concerned with 100,000 that were wrongfully interned, instead of the millions of lives that were saved by the war, and the Japanese internment was considered a necessary step in the fast-moving preparations for the war. They worried about how deep any Japanese government influence might have reached, and they couldn't wait to find out when a spy sabotaged their war efforts, so they took a broad stroke to avoid it. Whether that decision was right or wrong, it was a different war, and a different time, and applying your contemporary attitudes to history, without properly considering the historical context, is lazy historical thinking.
Unions, Labor, Social Security, Employment Reforms, End of Child Labor, workplace Health/ Safety/ Environmental regulations, etc. have improved, and even saved, the lives of millions of people, including you and literally EVERYONE you know, and yet you would surrender all of it, because the president who did all that, made a mistake during the worst war in human history.
Apparently the difference between you and I is that I don't believe there's room for a "yeah, but...". I don't believe in weighing the good and the bad when it comes to evil people.
I don't care if he passed social security. I don't care if he sold Stalin and Churchill the weapons they needed to win WW2. I don't care if he cured cancer, cholera, and the common cold. Just like I don't care that Hitler built the Autobahn. He's still fucking Hitler.
FDR illegally seized the property of 100,000 Americans and threw them in concentration camps based solely on their race. End of legacy. Fuck FDR and get his fascist ass face off my dime.
Arguing with idiots is so exhausting
Cartoonish levels of villainy.
At least they're consistent, I'll give them that
"Are we the baddies?"
Not surprised coming from our "Peace" President.
I don't get why coin money is made so often. I get quarters all the time from before they printed them with states on the back and they work fine.
Why always recycling and reprinting metal money. ?
Such a waste of money.
Like this whole penny deal.
You are telling me there is a shortage of pennies when most people use digital money.
What about all the pennies that have been made in the last 50 years ?
Stop recycling the old ones.
Just keep what we have and we wouldn't have a shortage.
Am I right or am I missing some fundamental reason why coin money keeps being made and coins that are perfectly good keep getting "recycled". ?
Cash physically wears out over time, so some amount needs to be re-minted each year to replace the ones that are too worn to be used as currency. In the case of bills, most countries also make updates to the design and materials in an attempt to deter counterfeiting. Coin usually gets small cosmetic changes every so often, like in Canada, every so often the "heads" side is updated with a new portrait of the monarch (currently King Charles)
I definitely see why paper money needs remade all the time. But coins do seem to last way longer. I don't get how there could possibly be a shortage of pennies unless they are recycling them in mass, unnecessarily.
Maybe if it were a closed loop system, but my intuition says that’s far from the case. I’ve seen buckets of pennies saved… whole tens of dollars, taking up an entire shoebox vault, just to never be touched. I’ve seen pennies on the road, desert, forests, … people throw them into fountains, lakes… all that, and then yes they also wear down slowly too.
Hm... Yeah that's something. But do you think that outpaces the use of physical money being replaced by digital. ?
Might be hard to know.
Mask off imperialism.
At least it's honest.
Looks pretty fascist.
nuts as all his stuff but ill admit its a better representation of his administration.
How can you not look at actions like this and not think you are the baddies?
Crimestop.
Coin collectors in 2000 years will have a blast! Not a nuclear blast though.
We are never recovering from this damage.
Kill em all.
Ah, iconoclastic "traditionalists": the oxymoronic morons of the century.
Oh those will be collectors items someday.
Also, why do we still have dimes?
https://youtu.be/f9aM_dT5VMI
Why does lady Liberty look like an elf?
At the rate inflation is about to go to they should have just preemptively done away with the quarter.
If we are not making the penny we should stop making the nickel and the dime.
This is just insult to injury
Yeah, we need to switch to quarters as the smallest coin and $10 as the largest. A beer should be a coin.
A beer should be no more than $5...
A pint should cost its abv, basically