Trump says ‘I guess’ Americans should worry about Iran retaliating on U.S. soil: ‘Like I said, some people will die’
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If Iran were to destroy Mar A Lago, I think we could let it slide.
I unconditionally surrender all of Florida on behalf of the usa.
Bezos and his ilk that fled there can go with it
Since you're mentioning Bezos: why not leverage the fact that he and Musk are building rockets? Let them realise their aspirations of colonising the Moon or Mars. But let them do it themselves.
Just call it even
They can have all of Florida as far as I'm concerned.
Let it slide? No. Medals would need to be given out.
Even if it's a target that's not widely popular, it will be used to push policies that hurt the people of the US more.
That's how we got the patriot act.
Don't care. As long as that shit-stain is in power, damage mitigation just plays into his hands.
The US is plagued by a cancer, and there's no way to excise it without further casualties. The only hope we have is chemotherapy and the hope that when the smoke clears it's the patient that survives.
Apathetic, moronic accelerationists set us on that path. The consolation is that a bunch of THEM will assuredly suffer too.
I'd have to send a thank you letter
They better double tap hit it just to make sure, then keep bombing it like once a week so nothing grows back and no one can memorialize it
And the Whitehouse ballroom. Not the rest, just the ballroom. Unless Trump, Miller, or Hegseth are there.
What ballroom lmao have they even started construction yet?
Trump is just trying to bring more people onto the side of supporting his illegal war on Iran by proposing an unrealistic risk of danger to the U.S.
A danger that he totally incited in the first place by being a bloodthirty moron.
He's trying to do "wag the dog" without a dog.
Is that because Noem murdered it?
Bibi said "Kill" and he said "how many?" We surely know who's calling the shots here, right?
Survey says... Our number one answer!!
I say he is preparing the people for an ‘act of terror by Iran’, meaning there is going to be a false flag incident. He can then use that to claim war powers and dismantle the last sliver of US-American democracy.
That’s a bingo
Or just let it happen organically, but don't attempt to stop it. Same result, better deniability.
I wonder how much time we've got left til that happens
Bro...
Have you seen the people in charge of anti-terrorism?!
It's a bigger miracle we haven't had a serious attack in the last year than it was that not a single hurricane made landfall last year.
We can't handle any type of disaster, and even routine shit are realistic risks of danger.
Risk of terrorist attack is sky high and it would likely be something huge that gets thru.
But...
trump isn't doing anything, he's not driving the bus and hasn't been for a while. The people who tell him what to do/say are trying to normalize American deaths to him.
And because he's trump and he just repeats what people told him a second ago, that's what he did when he went on camera.
He's never concerned about something or trying to reassure anyone. Whatever he blabbers about is what people were saying to him moments ago.
Terrorists aren’t exactly the smartest either.
the problem is that the reason the folks on US soil have such.. douche hubris is because we’ve never got our teeth kicked in because there are a couple of oceans guarding us.
it is only temporary “unrealistic” a danger, Iran will figure it out and another 9/11 will happen and.. queue up the enrollment and bootlicking country songs for 20 years.
All the while … profit, massive profit, is had.
Same with the religious spin ‘this is a holy war’ crap. If you frame this as god’s plan, then being against the war is being against said plan and god. This is an attempt to bring back the Republicans who naturally oppose this war.
There was some alledged Iranian in Austin last weekend. They claim the guy was wearing an Irani tee shirt.
This sounds like an awful method of persuasion?
It works to frighten people. He is now using fear as a method of control.
False flag attacks are coming. Mark my words.
Probably also "Iranian election interference" and a need to federalize elections so Trump can avoid the inevitable in November.
.... maybe?
With the disclaimer that I'm not at all sad that Khomeini was a casualty, Trump's illegal war against Iran is set to provoke some real attacks in, probably, quite short order.
Khomeini has been dead for 36 years. Khamenei is the guy who was just killed.
Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa
They’re already claiming the Texas shooter was Iranian, so it seems to have already happened.
Which particular mass shooting in Texas this week are we talking about here?
Remember, Trump needs enough reason to cancel elections....
They need some time to figure out the perfect place to be attacked so billions of dollars can go unaccounted for in the cleanup efforts.
They really don't though, they could do that with any disaster or for no reason at all. Hell Kristi Noem spent almost a quarter of a billion dollars on ads for herself that were paid to some company related to her.
without a doubt
No need. They've fired and cut did many people that they can just wait for a "natural" one to happen
That’s the first thing that came to mind.
Incoming. One Trump Sponsored false flag act of terrorism coming up.
And AI will “prove” that Dems and “Antifa” conspired with Iran to do it.
Al Gore ?
He just needs Kash to not focus on an obvious threat and let it organically happen. Sadly, this will be in NY, not florida.
Fool me once, shame on me....
It's like the 100th time in this country.... It's time for a little national shame at this point.
To lie us into war with Iran?
To suspend the elections.
real farquaad energy here
Hilarious watching them push "this isn't a war" over and over again just for Trump to constantly call it a war.
Don't tell me....it's a "special military operation", right?
Why would this be a shock to anyone? He let hundreds of thousands of Americans die to covid.
He's super nonchalant about it. This is how politicians actually feel when they know you're struggling/suffering. There is no feeling.
He knows when 9/11 happened, Americans shit their pants and threw away all their rights to government.
Of course he is. The people at risk aren't trump, or anyone that risks anything for trump or his family.
If Trump could press a button that would kill 10 million people, maim another 5 million, and make 50 million people go from middle class to abject poverty, in order to give him 10 billion $ and more power, he'd press that button without hesitation.
Total no brainer for him. And Americans are just letting get away with destroying democracy and destroying their freedom, and way of life, so HE can have more.
They seem upset, complain on social media, but do nothing. Not even boycotting. They just sit in their echo chambers. They dont organize. They don't protest on congress' front lawn, they hardly boycott, even after seeing it work for Kimmel.
The citizens of america are failing the world.
I hear what you are saying my friend... I(US citizen) am not happy with what is going on, but what can I really do to make a change? I vote, and other than that, I work 50-60 hours a week to try and support my family and try to teach them to be good and do the right things. I dont have the time or resources to go protest in Washington.... Im working my ass off to suport my family. The system here sucks and was built by others before my time. Do you want me to grab my guns and go battle ICE/the government single handedly and leave my kids to fend for themselves? Im just trying to get by. I havent been to a doctor in decades because I cant afford it... I send my kids instead, because that is more important to me. So you can sit on the sideline and say I am doing nothing, but Im voting and hoping for the best, but I cant battle the government corruption single handedly while I am trying to keep my kids alive and healthy. Tell me what to do. PLEASE!!!!
There are so many of you with this exact same sentiment on every comment related to this topic. Imagine what you could do if you were organised.
I don't think any of us have the answer for you, aside from casually pointing out that 2A is meant for more than the classroom, and if none of you do anything you'll be raising your kids in a fascist theocracy within the decade.
They're actively fighting to get voter registry information. Why do you think that is?
Being politically active is so much more than just voting. So many options to do more. You can write to your representatives or call them. You can donate to NGOs fighting for what you believe in. You can be vocal in your opinion on the internet or towards colleagues, friends and family. You can take part in demonstrations or even organise. And a lot of other options.
The mentality of "I vote, what more can I do" is so defeatist and a huge part of the reason why the political right wing can do what they do.
You need to get together with like minded people. In real life. Find people that think like you do, and get together, and plan together. Create funding. Start meetings. Go to political get together when you can, or organize funding and donate to that. Go to freedom fighting political parties and ask to help or volunteer, or whatever to get together in real life. Sacrifice for it. Be tired for it. Miss your leisure for it. Boycott maga friendly companies. Companies want money. If trump is in power they can pay trump to let them break the law and have more money. That includes removing your rights. So, fascism is profitable for them, at your expense. No taxes, no worker rights. If you continue using their products or platforms or whatever, then destroying your freedom is most profitable to them. You need to sacrifice, and go on a fast of your favourite things to hurt their bottom line. You need to make sure what's most profitable is freedom. Because if they attack it, nobody buys there. Or watches their shows, ir uses their social media.
You as an individual, you need to do that, even if you're alone. And you need to tell everyone else to do the same. Only use and shop at companies dont threaten your freedom or democracy. Even if it tanks your economy. You have to be cold hearted and vicious with it. And choose sacrifice for freedom. You alone won't make a dent. But you cant think loke that, and you cant tolerate that others do. You need to talk the talk, and walk the walk. And you need to protest in front of congress. Create funding, organize, and youll have funding to be able to go without work, or make billboards, or get buses so people can protest in Washington from all around.
Build it, and hurry up. You aren't powerless. But even if you're alone, act as though everyone will do as do. Encourage it, and make the sacrifice yourself.
They are brainwashing people with meta and twitter and tiktok. The big american companies are working to take your freedom. Don't give them money. If their stock is projected to fall, it loses so much value.
If you give giving them your money, you're fucked.
No one rational expects you or any other US citizen to grab guns.
We get that you personally, voted.
Unfortunately though, you and other US citizens like you are going to have to risk those jobs and that healthcare and go into a sustained national shutdown. Here is what is expected; the US citizens start doing something to fix this problem.
It’s unfortunate because those you need to lead such things and give direction, like Democrat reps, popular personalities, past presidents, none want to step up to the plate and lead it. The truth is, the administration really does reflect the nation in so many ways. A third care, a third don’t and most of that third along with the third that support are lazy, selfish people.
But no, I for one certainly don’t expect you to go out and battle ICE et al with your firearms. That’s the hardest, most awful way. The easiest was voting, the next now is a peaceful shutdown to get the houses to act. Yes it’ll be hard and yes, it’s easy for us not having to do it to say it but you’ve seen already how some nations like the French react to it, we’d be doing the same.
You’re the only ones can do it too, none of us can help here because he was elected and we couldn’t anyway. If I lived there, in your shoes, I’d start with writing your nearest Dem reps and any influential people you can to start leading it. That’s something.
"Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make"
Spoken like a man secure in the idea that they won’t make it through to him.
they’ll either allow an attack or stage one so they have a reason to skip the midterms.
I hope this acceptable risk becomes him.
Like a certain Charles Kirk
Charlie who? Never heard that name before. Must not have done anything important in their life.
He was great in The Shining
Probably this one - on 7 January 2015, two Islamist gunmen forced their way into the Paris headquarters of Charlie Hebdo and opened fire, killing twelve.
The Charly that went to the magic mountain
An acceptable benefit?
Some people say they want a terror attack, to get emergency declarations and steal the midterms. I just hope this is not true. A lot of innocent people would die for few remain in power. I don’t know what to believe anymore.
Fascists are in power. That's enough to believe in while you go look for historical examples of fascists being peacefully voted out of office. That ought to keep you busy until oh, his fourth term.
"and that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make"
Ding ding ding
Ah, some real classic Trump being Zapp Brannigan shit right there...
At this point, I think it’s insulting to Zapp to make the comparison
Change my daiper, Kif !
"Oh noooo, the Reichstag is on fire!"
imports domesticated bear
slaps a bear
See guys? I TOLD you this area was filled with angry bears!
The follow-up is, "Why?"
We attacked them. Iran should retaliate on US soil. If they do, blame the trump administration and is its cuckold fetish for Israel.
Please realize that every administration has been "cuckold fetished" by Israel. That's why we founded Israel. It's not a Trump thing, it's a US government thing; they all wear a tiny hat and kiss the wall.
Not defending Trump, he's knee deep in shit
I entirely agree with you.
UNFATHOMABLE. this has never happened before.
what do i do now? I'm scared
Now kiss.
*kith
So this is the moment then when the 2A Magats will take their guns and go for justice, right?
Right?
Yes, against those evil Democrats!
Bro, they've been trying for a moment. There's been three armed assassination attempts that have been thwarted.
3 out of millions
I'm not even suggesting they shoot him, I'm suggesting they protest as well
It would be the stupidest thing they could possibly do. The war has like a 20% approval rate. If they attacked on American soil the cowboys would flood the enlistment offices.
To me this sounds like just another reason the Trump regime could do something themself making it look like it was Iran.
Not Trump, he's not even the one who wants this. Israel. Just like they did last time.
You're assuming the decision-makers on any side are supremely intelligent and rational. They are not.
HE should fucking die. I hope they kidnap him and torture the fuck out of him.
Careful now, some social media sites might ban you for three days for saying way less
Happened to me.
I think telling a rando to 'kys' or whatever kids are saying, is bad. For some reason, though, it feels less objectionably when directed at public figures
And that one in particular, although really anyone working for him would also be fine.
I hope they broadcast it live and sell pieces of him to the highest bidder
Is he Ferengi? He really doesn’t have the lobes for business, they’re small like a fe-male!
Hopefully, he will be one of them.
Let’s just put this out there. If Iranian cells want to hurt Republicans? I won’t bat an eye. Just don’t hurt non-Republicans. You two can have it out.
If I were in charge of Iran and the "Death to America" club, I would have had cells in the USA since the 50s.
It's a given. How many have evaded detection?
With modern technology that allows unlimited surveillance, it would be very difficult, but not impossible by any means.
Have we truly accounted for all of the nukes after fall of USSR? We'll find out shortly.
It's the US who are missing 6.
Lord Farquad everybody...
Fuck you Zap Brannigan.
I'M MAD AS HELL, AND I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE
You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!
Yes you will.
Iran will do it if they're about to go down. They won't do it before because then it's "justifiction" for the US to put boots on the ground and do a normal invasion.
They should just go after the politicians who have engineered this insanity. No one will be too upset.
They should employ hackers to get hold of the rest of the Epstein files and release them.
I think it may even foster positive sentiment towards Iran on the whole.
I'm sure that's not on the table after one of their girls elementary schools was a 'strategic target'.
I am hoping that Iranians join ICE, and start deporting Trump Regime members into the infernal afterlife.
Iran will attack US soil or the gov will do it themselves as justification to cancel the mid-terms
I don't think it's possible to loathe an orange doo doo man more than I do.
I would like to get off the ride, now, please.
Reminder to Iran: this cunt is solely responsible for what's going on. Direct your hate accordingly. Zero other people had any input on this because fuckhead went around Congress to do what he wanted.
Frustrating isn’t it. Don’t point this out though, ay?
Oh…oh good.
Probably should be the people that got us into this mess
If history is any indication they won't.
Sadly you’re right. Always has been the case.
You first, dick head
if America gets attacked, it would be the failure of the millennium for any president. if he couldn't project the people he deserves a fire quad. this is his war and no one elses
I guess. I mean IDK LOL.
Yeah! Uh, I already said that! Duh!
Blowback : the costs and consequences of American empire
https://archive.org/details/blowback00chal
https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/0805062394
Internment camps for Persian-Americans when?
There is a lot of talk on foreign news sites that way more U.S soldiers have been killed. All U.S bases in Iran were bombed. Yet only 6 U.S people killed?
That's not how that works.
Mexico and India news says reports were around 500-600 U.S troops.
Gop hiding it so it's not so obvious to us how much they fucked up so that Congress won't be as pressured to stop them. If the American people knew it was 500 casualties already from poor strategy, there would be more outrage.
Considering that the current administration lies about literally everything, I'll trust foreign news more.
https://youtu.be/FFRXNGyrNVI
duno 500 seams high.
Iranian missiles/drones are not very precise, and they take a while to get there, usualy enough warning time to run from a exposted position to the next bunker.
US bases are huge, just cuz something impacts somewhere on it dosent mean a human is nearby.
I kinda doubt they could even hide 500 dead, even if they tryed.
It's definitely more than 6.
I bet its a few hundred.
few hundred...no just no.
For every kia u have multipe wounded, and i dont see spikes in wounded transports to military hospitals in europe (usual extraction route for usa wounded in the middle east). If there where 500 dead it would mean 2k wounded and thay would mean constant helicopter medivac flights from airports to hospitals in europe...feel free to check historical data of flight radar (public info) on that.
Let me know if u come up with some facts that actually have data speaking for em.
Is there anywhere else US soldiers could be treated more quietly, e.g. navy hospitals, nearby Arab States or Israel?
Arab hospitals are considered a security risk and israel probably dosent has the capacity that nato nations can provide, the extraction route was developed during the gulf wars and the afghan war and i would wonder if they would suddenly change that
They’ve had no problem suddenly changing everything else for no good reason.
Yeah. Israel.
Kegbreath didn't plan anything so they probably aren't even prepared for that scale of transport
The families would be coming out of the woodwork.
If they had been told.
Theres a limit to how many times “can’t come to the phone right now” will work.
Maybe that's what the recent Facebook patent that allows them to have AI take over a dead person's persona is all about?
We really are living in a Black Mirror episode...
It's only been a week. Don't get me wrong, time's going to run out when the can keep it quiet, but we're not there yet.
It's been a few days. It's not always easy to reach service members.
How would they know?
It will take another week or two before we start learning the real numbers.
I'd happily take that bet, but I'd like to know what source you'd trust for the final figure.
Foreign news is saying Iran has stated they bombed all U.S bases. They report 500 casualties. Would they exaggerate ?
Probably.
Would they turn 6 into 500. Not likely.
Would department of defence lie to conceal how badly they fucked up ? 100%
Even if both are lying, the middle is still a few hundred.
I still don't understand why any of you would trust what the trump or hegseth says.
But I can tell you that soldiers are not allowed to leak information all the time about on going operations.
We don't hear details about most things like this until years later.
And I do believe they can hide death counts easily in the short term.
I trust foreign news over U.S news. And you should too.
I've never watched US news. What's your "foreign news" source?
Well I read BBC and watch France news on YouTube. I gave such a link in my first comment. I also watch other foreign news in English. India also has such a news channel on YouTube.
The link below is the india one.
https://youtu.be/FFRXNGyrNVI
And here is the French one.
https://youtube.com/@france24_en
Naaah. That’s fanciful tabloidism.
Bases are large. They have hardened bunkers. Iranian missiles and drones are crude. Anyone non-essential would have been evacuated before this all started.
Hundreds - even dozens would be impossible to keep quiet.
Iranian missiles are also super- and hypersonic
Israel hid a lot of atrocities for decades.
The u.s government basically controls all major news because a single family now owns it all.
You all realize they do lie about everything. ?
Why would you trust ,"6". ?
Because these hundreds of dead soldiers were hatched in a military facility and never had family, friends, neighbours or bank managers. Or you’re saying thousands of people will just not notice?
I'm saying it's going to take more than 3 days for people's families to figure it out
And then what.
Oopsie, heres some corpses we forgot to tell you about?
It will be a bigger deal than you might think. It could help pressure Congress to stop the war.
Maybe not. But maybe.
I was told Dems were just BLUMAGA, yet here we are.