Spyke
lemmy.world

Frankly humanity does not need this invention one bit.

It may have legitmately sounded interesting and futuristic to some people a decade ago, but with the way tech companies are trending this type of tech will become an absolute surveillance and privacy nightmare. I mean it aleady is really, but it will get so so much worse.

Regulate and legislate these into oblivion. At the very least tech companies need to be punished financially for trying to speed run dystopia but I fear we're already sliding down that slope and it's too late

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sh.itjust.works

Frankly humanity does not need this invention one bit.

Yah. Unfortunately, we've got it though. :( :( :(

People I know, some friends, they are completely oblivious to how much it will surveillance them. Or how much Meta already does, in other ways. "I don't care, I'm not doing anything wrong".

Constant surveillance erodes a society. It erodes democracy.

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Half Life 2:

C1: This is how it always starts. First a building, then the whole block.

C2: They have no reason to come to our place.

C1: Don't worry, they'll find one.

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Get a webcam and place it prominently in their house, when askes tell them they have nothing to hide so youd like to watch. Bonus points for putting in the bedroom or bathroom.

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Genies out of the bottle now man.

Look forward to an arms race and eventually a cold war. This is our generations nuke.

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chickenreply
lemmy.dbzer0.com

being sent to offshore contractors for data labeling, a widely-used preprocessing step in training new AI models in which human contractors are asked to review and annotate footage.

From another article I read about this, seems like it involves a lot of drawing precise boxes around people and objects, stuff like that. Terminators gotta learn their sex moves from somewhere.

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In a certain nihilistic dreadful sense it's hilarious how these AI advancements are built on the backs of exploitative manual labor. On the surface the AI models are so utterly impressive at how "smart" and advanced the tech appears to be, but the truth of it is just slave labor building a catalog of labeled data sourced from mass surveillance. The aliens should really intervene soon, before we build something that can threaten them...

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I actually did data labeling work on amazon mturk for a while, it does kind of suck, the main saving grace was I could largely do it on my own schedule but I assume these people don't really get that benefit.

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They need someone to review and tag the recorded footage to train AI models.

No moment is private when wearing these glasses. I'm glad they haven't caught on where I live.

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lemmy.ml

Read the article??

“You understand that it is someone’s private life you are looking at, but at the same time you are just expected to carry out the work,” the employee said. “You are not supposed to question it. If you start asking questions, you are gone.”

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lemmy.ml

Yet another surveilance tool marketed as a cool tech gadget.

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FatVeganreply
leminal.space

It's almost absurd at this point, but i used to be really into gadgets and tech and shit. Now everything i see is like: that's a spy tool. That's showing ads. That is an ad. That is just a lie.

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Same. At most I got 15 years left and I doubt I will ever see this changing in my lifetime.

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altphotoreply
lemmy.today

They wouldn't! Not a penis camera right? Thry wouldn't!

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Oh they would!
And then make it mandatory for everyone with a penis.
For child protection, you know.

Just noticed Child Protection.

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The absolute tone-deafness of not seeing that meta seeing the things is the disturbing part.

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lemmy.world

So you're telling me that the creepy motherfuckers who would wear something like this around in public do creepy things?

Never would have guessed that. 🤔

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lemmy.world

I'm pretty sure they monitor everything on all of their platforms, I don't know if they have to for legal reasons or just choose to.

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Yeah, sorry I just read the article and found the answer, they tag the videos to train their AI.

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lemmy.ml

It really doesn't matter if facial recognition is enabled or not today, it can always be done later on. This is a huge invasion of privacy.

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lemmy.ml

I don't think even George Orwell could have predicted that one day they'd put the cameras inside glasses, it would be common knowledge that they're in there and the they're spying on you and everyone you look at, and people would still voluntarily buy them with their own money and wear them around.

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For real, The real question here is why does anyone at Meta have access to users data like that. This is rhetorical.

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God I wish they'd stop putting cameras in these and just make a nice pair of prescription glasses with good integrated headphones, a heads of display, and some basic touch controls on the stem.

I would genuinely enjoy this for easy listening and maps.

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Right? Make a product that a majority of people could find useful and not have any backlash at all...but then again, they've never been a product company. They've always been a personal information broker.

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lemmy.ml

Well that's what you get for spying on people. Duh

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piefed.world

One could make a decent bit of $ on "I do not consent" knitted balaclavas on Etsy.

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lemmy.world

Dont they make glasses that blind cameras with infrared to obscure facial recognition? Im thinking a whole line of accessories (necklaces, earings, hats, etc) that fuck up these glasses ability to record you without consent. Not sure how technically feasible that all is but would love to see something like it to counteract these.

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lemmy.world

I think the problem with mass adoption of that kind of anti surveillance tech is that most people will not trade the convenience of being able to take pictures of themselves for the privacy of other people not being able to take pictures of them. Even if it's a toggle switch.

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Willoughbyreply
piefed.world

Also wearing them identifies you as "a person wearing anti-spyware" glasses.

It's like not having a Facebook account, your shadow shows everyone you aren't, leaving the only person you could be.

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Art3misreply
lemmy.world

And? I'm still very thankful to have completely deleted my account and tend to wear a mask in public. Its more about consent than hiding anything

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Willoughbyreply
piefed.world

In your defense, they aren't tracking your every move in pseudo-real time and tracking every app they can get their code into inside your phone.

but dude needs to buy a lawnmower and a tv used every now and then, so the bookmark stays. That shit isn't on my phone tho.

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Yeah i keep a librewolf instance on my desktop open with tabs for shopping lol

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I think you're unfortunately right on that point. There's probably a higher chance of those types of devices being outlawed than Meta glasses and similar products being outlawed, knowing how our legal systems love to defer to corporations.

Theres also the whole deal with being able to legally film and photograph in a public space, which I support for sure, but this is very much not the same as that when a whole team of people overseas are reviewing everything along with AI analysing it, and with these glasses still operating in not-public spaces. Even the act of having to pull out a phone and physically hold it up to film is a small protection of privacy, because at least others can recognize that that person is filming. The passive always-recording nature of these glasses is truly frightening.

At least they are chunky and kinda stupid looking enough to be recognizable.... for now. It will be scary when there are dozens or hundreds of variations that look no different than any style of regular glasses.

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I think at least some are scams. I would think there are ways to design cameras to mostly mitigate this too. I'm guessing ALPRs have the ability to see license plates at night even though headlights are emitting a large amount of light over a broad spectrum (including IR).

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lemmy.world

I wonder what would be the power consumption of a device that sits on your head and emits IR light in all directions until you turn it off, instead of just over your eyes. Similar to how microphone blockers work.

What would jewelry and hats do about cameras?

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If you're in public in the US, consent doesn't matter at all. We need to actively block surveillance, create our own privacy.

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lemmy.ml

Orwell got it wrong with the wall mounted screens - 'they' want us to wear the screens. What was that album title? 'If you accept this,your kids are next., ' Can't remember which band

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OrgunDonorreply
lemmy.world

If you tolerate this, your children will be next. Is a Manic Street Preachers song.

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kneereply

Thanks, almost got it right. A long while since I listened.

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lemmy.ca

Orwell also got it wrong not predicting people would not want to turn of their telescreens

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kneereply
lemmy.ml

Absolutely. IIRC, the option of turning them off was only available to very high ranking members and even then only for relatively short periods of time.

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I don't know what's worse. Meta admitting to spy and nothing happens or the dumb people still buying their crap and using their services.

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lemmy.ca

Kathryn Bigelow's most under-rated film is almost upon us....just 30 years later than we thought.

Also...if you haven't seen that movie...go watch it. It's low-key one of her best.

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lemmy.ml

I know this is off-topic, but Kathryn Bigelow is just an under-rated director in general I think. So many bangers. Also from a quick search I just found out she had a new movie out last year that stars Idris Elba, Rebecca Ferguson and Jared Harris? Somehow I missed that entirely.

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Oh! In addition too Strange Days she directed the OG Point Break and The Hurt Locker! All great movies!

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Great 90s cyberpunk movie. Way better than Johnny Mnemonic and Judge Dread.

Also starred the smokin' hot Angela Basset as a bonus.

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lemmy.zip

But this is not the problem but a symptom. Of you having no right to privacy (and if, it can be overwritten by some ToS).

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lemy.lol

Well you definitely don't have any right to privacy in public in the US.

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Now I'm chuckling at the thought that the view from these glasses is likely to be used for training AI, so you could have a bit of fun just aiming them at the most horrifying but legal porn you can find and plonk them down aimed at the screen while you go do other stuff.

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lemy.lol

That petition is cute, but even if such a law was passed, it would be struck down.

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There are other similar ones that have more awareness, but one was focused around New Orleans as there was an incident. I didn't hear about it. Another is taking about banning at beaches which also make sense so voyeurism isn't so creepy and make people feel awkward

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lemmy.world

FOUR signatures?! Wow, I have never seen so few signatures on a causeworthy well-written petition before 🫨

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Well, yeah, neither of us are on social media. I need to text a few circles of friends but 5 signatures means it'll get more promotion out there.

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Definitely not a Sony Walkman, which was cool and the foam headphones were comfortable to wear. I miss the simple analog days.

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