I've been using the official app a couple times lately (out if curiousity). It's ridiculous how little is left. Almost the enire feed is either advertisements, or algorithm. The plus side is that it is pretty obvious to distinguish them, but that makes that you can just scroll past 20+ posts without stopping. The feeling that gives me, almost always makes me close the app. Hilariously, I think this is exactly the opposite effect of what reddit engineers wanted to achieve with their enshitification.
I left reddit about the time they introduced /r/popular and I recall the announcement mentioning that they would remove /r/all eventually. It's been a long time, but this was coming.
It’s not addictive enough. You might see something that isn’t algorithmically tailored to enrage you or make you horny, and you’ll get bored for 3 seconds and navigate away from Reddit.
Before I stopped using reddit, I was having this issue where it would literally show me the exact same post several times (like, not a crosspost, straight up the very same post) and it would get worse the further you scrolled. By page 5 or so, it'd be nothing but posts you'd already been shown. I just checked and it's still doing it. I don't know if this was just me or not, but it made it a lot easier to stop visiting.
edit: my comment was like 80% right but found out something that made me 20% wrong and...... it's not worth arguing what I was going for. Comment withdrawn.
i just joined because of this. i was waiting for lemmys community to grow a bit larger first but r/all is literally the only reason i browse reddit at all. these idiots are playing themselves with this crap
That's the problem. All reddit users are waiting for lemmy to be larger without actually wanting to be part of making it larger. It's a vicious cycle. Fortunately for us reddit is hell bent on shooting it's own foot
It is in some communities. But there are certain places I used to see pretty regular updates and engagement on Reddit that either don’t exist here or are absolute ghost towns. You can say that’s because of a different user base and different priorities and that’s fair — but then you can’t complain about low involvement/engagement by people who want to participate in those communities.
I miss the thriving, active subreddits for fountain pens, watches, and calculators. I tried being the change I wanted to see in a watch community, but after about a week of being the only poster, It just kinda felt like I was just showing off my watch collection. Fountain pens is a bit more active, at a few posts per month. Forget about calculators.
Yeah. I’m a fan of some less-popular musicians who have a few hundred Redditors and at least a dozen active participants. Here it’s literally me talking to a wall. Or no forum at all.
That's a shame. I think I've been talking at my coworkers more without those spaces, probably more than they are interested. But yeah, the empty communities here are just like yelling into the void.
Nice! Browsing by All here works great, just block the communities you aren't interested in. I started out subscribing to ones I wanted but the smaller scale makes All decently readable. If there's a community you wish was here feel free to start it!
Is there a way to block communities without having to enter them? Sometimes I'm like "icch, that's nasty", but I have to get all up in the nasty to turn it off.
There should be, yeah theres some real... eccentric folks here. Maybe a future update will allow "block community" right from the post. Not to my knowledge, apart from going to your user profile settings and typing it into the actual block list.
Wow, jesus. When I read this post's title, I assumed it was being hyperbolic and that they just changed the name of /r/all or something.
Nope. The literal "Front Page of the Internet" that made Reddit what it is is gone. Staggering. What an unrecognizable, catastrophic shithole that place has turned into in the four years since I've been I was on it as an active user. (Edit: As in "I left four years ago"; didn't recognize the dual meaning.)
The new reddit design was a pure cancer. I still use old.reddit links because when I tick in settings to opt out of new design, reddit unticks it for me every single fucking month
Didn't r/all and r/popular become identical after they started filtering NSFW from r/all quite a few years ago? I couldn't tell the difference after that change at least. It honestly makes sense to delete one of them if they're the same.
Edit: Never mind, apparently they removed r/popular too.
Amazing shit. Love how the hapless community manager has to be all "decision won't change but you can shout at the wind for all the help it will do" because they literally have nothing else to say about it
“The r/all experiment has concluded and the decision was made to remove r/all. I'm so sorry. =/ Reddit is leaning toward simplifying your experience to make it more personalized and relevant to your subscriptions and interests. I know some of you have some pretty strong feelings about this and I totally get that! Feel free to leave comments on this post. I will continue to pass along constructive feedback to that team.”
The way it's worded, it does sound like /r/all is the experiment they're referring to.
But I think it makes more sense if they're referring to an experiment involving /r/all. I remember reading months ago that they wanted to remove it, maybe they are referring to an A/B testing experiment (remove it for some people and not for others) there.
Yeah, that makes sense. They had an experiment to see if they could increase ad revenue by removing the all-feed, and now it's concluded and it turns out that yes indeed, enshittification rolls on.
I cannot imagine staying on a service that is openly admitting running experiments on its users to make them as addicted as possible. I guess it's a boiling frog kind of deal.
r/all is too generalized to push targeted advertising on it so every user who spends time on there should in reddits eyes be somewhere else where they can be milked for cash easier
It also trends much more political than /r/popular. (Low quality liberal bait like "DAE think trump bad???" most of the time, but still). Their explicit goal with their "alternative" feeds was to de-rank the political discussions in favor of 9gag-esque slop.
When a big political event happened, you could go to /r/all and be blasted with tens of discussions about it, or go to /r/popular and watch staged animal rescue videos or whatever.
Now I'm not saying it's a conspiracy necessarily, but it certainly is yet another major loss for free political speech online.
That's about it for me then. I exclusively use r/all. Without being signed too.
I don't care if I see content I don't like nor care about. The point is to not be spoon fed some "algorithm". And it lets me see the state of the platform as a whole.
Fuck every algorithm from what controls what I see on social media to the process of long division and the instructions on how to find my tax deduction!
Feels like a technique the Trump admin would use to justify something atrocious. "This thing that's always been around? Yeah it was temporary and we're finally getting rid of it! Nobody even used it!"
Users: /r/all is one of the cornerstones that make Reddit Reddit and a central part of its success
Corpo lizards: we have deemed /r/all is too hard to shape into a surveillance capitalism tool, so we're gonna pretend it was a beta feature. Now consoom your Personalized Experience ™
Welcome to Lemmy but we don't use slurs here. The problem with CEOs isn't that they have unspecified mental illnesses it's that they're evil pieces of shit
it's a weird feeling when a feature to see the same stuff that everyone else sees gets removed in favor of personalized feeds. it's like my connection with the outside world was severed. this sucks.
Which defeats the whole point but at this point Facebook is just hanging on if it's existing user base sucking what little value there is left out of it before it collapses from totally irrelevancy
The modern model for Facebook is as digital flypaper. Trapping users in their ecosystem on the assumption the social network and the poor tech skills, plus the highly addictive algorithm, will keep them mired in psychological quicksand until all their vital essences are harvested.
As disgusting as the site is, I still find myself peaking back in to reach out to an old friend or family member, because that's literally the only way I have to communicate. Incredibly frustrating.
Reddit is completely compromised. Fuckin sad to see. I got Perma banned about a week ago so I suppose there's nothing I'll be missing out on. I hate to sound hyperbolic but the internet we once knew is gone. For a brief moment I. Human history we had almost unrestricted access to the wealth of human knowledge, paired with the ability to form niche forums accessable to everyone within our reach and we squandered it.
End of an era. Now the internet is a circlejerk fest of bots, slop, and propaganda. I migrated to Lemmy, seems like it's starting to hit another wave of growth. I don't see social media having the utility it once did, especially the mainstream sites.
Hell, even Google is slop nowadays. I always prided myself on my Google skills, being able to quickly find answers to whatever I needed. Now the first results are some slop pages that just spew out false information. Even with an adblocker it's a pain to use.
So for years now I often added "reddit" to any Google search, but that lost its value too.
Yeah. Something. Like 75-80% of all content on the internet is AI generated now. Might be much worse since that figure was hit a while ago.
The internet isn'tade for humans anymore, which is ultimately something I don't understand. Ai chat bots have taken over and we're calling it "intelligence".
For what? So a few rich fucks can eek out every last penny from us. If you're human, I hope you're well. Maybe getting off the internet is what we really need
Not like r/all was heavily skewed towards one side of content (US politics, satisfying clips, animals doing things, rage stuff).
Doesnt feel like much will be missed that can't be had anywhere else.
even if it was skewed, I knew that it's what everyone else was seeing. it brings a sense of community (even though it started to get overtaken by frontpage bots)
I mean it's been heavily filtered for the better part of a decade. I never really minded some of the filtering, which at first was just quarantining the far right, but then nsfw subs got hidden, etc. Pretty quickly it was the old standard front page with a bit of chaos.
Also strangely enough, when I first started using Reddit around 2011, everyone just went straight to the frontage for everything, and the defaults in the front page dominated the app, it was probably around 2015-2016 that people actually pivoted to /r/all after the defaults of the front page were bland and stagnant, and from then on, the admins have taken steps to make /r/ all bland and stagnant too.
Yeah, and I understand the sentiment that people don't want an algorithm on the site picking what they see, but r/all has been that way for a while. Votes have been manipulated to high hell, and while maybe it's not exactly deciding what you see, it is and always has been 100% deciding what you don't see.
Am I the only one who doesn't use Reddit? That platform has been getting enshittified for years. Plus, Lemmy encourages actual discussions and isn't filled with AI bots.
Sadly like other platforms the population is not high enough on lemmy for exclusivity. Like certain niche sub reddit dont exist on lemmy. Like it still top for tech support searches.
In my experience Lemmy also has great porn, though I'm not picky myself. I was using lemmynsfw.com for a while, but now that's shut down. I think there's been a new instance to replace it.
They aren't. They run off of VC money and cheap lending. Most of the sudden enshitification we are seeing is a direct consequence of the end of the era of easy money
I got permabanned from Reddit for talking mad shit about AI and saying what I think should happen to ICE and Trump, so I guess I didn't care. Pretty funny though.
I got perma'd for saying a straight-up sieg-heiling neo-Nazi harassing a Jewish couple in an American suburb should have his nose broken so he can worry about his own for a change.
At first I was kind of bewildered having had used it for nearly 10 years, but it was much better this way. I try to keep Aesop's famous sour grapes fable in mind when I say things like this, but no: every time I end up on Reddit for some reason, I'm dumbfounded anyone could use it in its current condition. Even beyond the visual vomit that is the UI – before I left, mine was a very "Reddit circa 2015 frozen in time" experience thanks to RiF and RES – it feels like iFunny when I realized it was just backwash from other sites like Reddit and left it.
The content is so painfully insipid. It's all something from fifteen million variations of "/r/damnthatsinteresting", a repost bot, a dogshit tabloid discussing US politics, "ChatGPT writes a clear-cut ragebait story and users tell the OP if they're justified", screenshots from Twitter on their dozenth round of compression, or TikTok's backwash in the form of v.reddit.
A lot of that stuff is here too, but at least it's small enough here that real human interaction happens in the comments regardless, and it's much worse there. I used to get on Reddit for an hour and feel honest-to-goodness enriched by the experience. I felt like I learned new things and saw new, cogent perspectives. I feel utterly hollow on the rare occasion I check Reddit these days, like I just got out of a soulless spin cycle designed to trap me by shutting off my brain.
This is kind of my feelings at this point. The vast majority of Reddit right now is careening towards Facebook levels of bot activity. Be it repost bots, Russian trolls, what have you…it’s just really hard to pick out what’s a real human at this point. Just so much repetitive shit. I will genuinely miss some of the special interest, more niche communities over there. The equivalents on Lemmy are still kind of ghost towns at the moment. But yeah, at first I was angry that I got permabanned (for telling a MAGA that he wasn’t just licking boots, he was deep throating them). But the more I step back and assess the situation, I’m happy those dumbfucks did the job for me. Fuck Reddit. Which is sad, because it used to be pretty fucking amazing.
I've been off for a while and it had been going downhill for years. It was awesome in 2012 and as the 2010's rolled on they started pissing me off more and more.
I'm afraid it's only downhill from here. Reddit's already a shell of it's former self and it will continue to degrade until someone pulls the plug on whatever sorry state it's in
EDIT: After reading the comments in this thread I think I should elaborate...
The only thing that makes Reddit not X or Facebook are their niche communities. For years, Reddit corporate has been moving to homogenize them and shove them all into a single algorithmic slop feed that auto-adjusts to what you linger on like Tiktok. /r/all and /r/popular are basically just endless slop feeds of bots reposing engagement bait for people with brain rot to look at while they poop. But having slop and topic-based communities in a single feed invites those brainrotted people to jump into any community they are not a member of and vomit all over it without learning the rules/culture/etc.
Honestly I think focusing on and prioritizing their myriad small communities and not the people who want slop feed is a smart move for user retention. I still won't go back there, but I think it's a smart move.
I’m waiting for the day when reddit only works with their official mobile app. You have no feed anymore, just see one post at a time, and you can swipe if you want to see the next one
I don't even care anymore to be honest. Most of the legacy social media platforms have become absolute garbage. Reddit was the introduction to the wild west of internet commentary for me. Compared to 15 years ago versus today it's unrecognizable.
Yeah, I still miss classic subreddits such as jailbait and watchpeopledie. Those were the wild west of the internet. Nowadays Reddit is just a stupid website.
Sure there's an element of the remnants of the uncensored net that is met with a sense of nostalgia but you picked one of the worst examples of that, Jesus Christ.
When I use reddit, it's old.reddit exclusively. And old.reddit still has 'all' listed on the top.
I don't use standard reddit, so I don't know if 'all' was on the navigation pane before today or not, but it's not there now. However, reddit.com/r/all still returns a feed, so maybe the address still works.
I think it says something about Reddit and their UX design that old.reddit.com still exists and is incredibly popular like five or six years after they introduced their sparkly air quote new Reddit
What a dumpster fire. I would be mad about this if I still visited the site! Long, long time since it started enshittifying, and they're not done yet! Get your friends, family, and coworkers to use the fediverse...
Redreader still seems to be pulling posts into a collection like r/all. I have had some theories about how it works and have always used it to have an uncurated experience.
I'm thinking it isn't opening r/all in reddit's API and it instead kind of builds that selection of posts from everywhere on redreader's end. I can't prove it but the fact it's working now seems to play into this. Maybe I'm delusional.
Either way, fingers crossed reddit doesn't get sick of blind people getting to control their own content stream and boot it off the API. Would pretty much fit the bill for their shit
I don't really get the hate for that decision. For years, r/all was just straight up bots upvoting posts. You had posts with 50k+ upvotes and about a hundred comments in total. And the karma farmers made sure you saw the same post 2 or 3 times on the front page, just from different subreddits.
Yeah removing it is the first good decision they’ve made in years. It was a flaming garbage heap on multiple levels that bubbled the most awful stuff to the front page that was blatantly gamed by bad actors.
Edit: are these downvotes because I’m wrong, or because people skim-read it and kneejerk reacted to “reddit did a good thing”?
But they direct users to /r/popular instead... what's the difference there anyway? It doesn't seem to have any special inclusion rules, as I can still get all the zero upvote zero comment posts if I sort by new. So I don't see what the point of /r/popular was/is before /r/all's removal.
Popular is a list of what they approve, or more recently it's the algorithmic feed.
I only used my own subs for my personal interests or All to discover something new. It was, at least at one time, good for surfacing things I never would have looked for. More often things that didn't interest me, but that was valuable in itself.
Huh interesting, thanks for explaining! Sorting by new includes all kinds of random subs, so it doesn't look much more curated to me than /r/all, though.
r/popular can be set to a country. For the US, it’s pretty similar to r/all for any other country, it’s distinct and boosts local subreddits and language.
I'm not sure I follow, I didn't select anything. Can't find a setting about it in preferences. Well, except for the general location setting which seems to be a shreddit-only feature, as I need to go to shreddit to set it.
OH, I see now. I idiotically didn't check the hot sort, the others don't have that option. So this explains hot, but I'm still wondering what the difference is with the others.
This is something that would really frustrate me if I was still on reddit. It feels nice to not care at all.
I've been using the official app a couple times lately (out if curiousity). It's ridiculous how little is left. Almost the enire feed is either advertisements, or algorithm. The plus side is that it is pretty obvious to distinguish them, but that makes that you can just scroll past 20+ posts without stopping. The feeling that gives me, almost always makes me close the app. Hilariously, I think this is exactly the opposite effect of what reddit engineers wanted to achieve with their enshitification.
I sincerely hope it is not their engineers that wanted this.
Somehow I doubt that they listen to their engineers at all regarding policy decisions.
If lemmy wants to succeed, we need to follow suit and remove sorting by all! It’s the only way! /s
It does kind of frustrate me that they're messing with people's dopamine receptors, trapping them in reddit for a bit longer
I left reddit about the time they introduced /r/popular and I recall the announcement mentioning that they would remove /r/all eventually. It's been a long time, but this was coming.
It’s not addictive enough. You might see something that isn’t algorithmically tailored to enrage you or make you horny, and you’ll get bored for 3 seconds and navigate away from Reddit.
Damn you beat me to it
Tbf many main subs have been optimizing for horny in one fashion or another. It was just generating way too much interaction not to
Oldschool
coolhorny"Look how hot my Mom was guys, don't you think she was so sexy?" - average oldschoolcool poster
Hey. Leave that one alone, I liked jorkin my peanits to people's grandmas
Before I stopped using reddit, I was having this issue where it would literally show me the exact same post several times (like, not a crosspost, straight up the very same post) and it would get worse the further you scrolled. By page 5 or so, it'd be nothing but posts you'd already been shown. I just checked and it's still doing it. I don't know if this was just me or not, but it made it a lot easier to stop visiting.
That’s Reddit’s new “Read It Again” feature.
Or just something we don’t want you to see.
Individualized censored bubbles for all of us, so nobody has the same world view.
edit: my comment was like 80% right but found out something that made me 20% wrong and...... it's not worth arguing what I was going for. Comment withdrawn.
i just joined because of this. i was waiting for lemmys community to grow a bit larger first but r/all is literally the only reason i browse reddit at all. these idiots are playing themselves with this crap
That's the problem. All reddit users are waiting for lemmy to be larger without actually wanting to be part of making it larger. It's a vicious cycle. Fortunately for us reddit is hell bent on shooting it's own foot
It is in some communities. But there are certain places I used to see pretty regular updates and engagement on Reddit that either don’t exist here or are absolute ghost towns. You can say that’s because of a different user base and different priorities and that’s fair — but then you can’t complain about low involvement/engagement by people who want to participate in those communities.
I miss the thriving, active subreddits for fountain pens, watches, and calculators. I tried being the change I wanted to see in a watch community, but after about a week of being the only poster, It just kinda felt like I was just showing off my watch collection. Fountain pens is a bit more active, at a few posts per month. Forget about calculators.
Yeah. I’m a fan of some less-popular musicians who have a few hundred Redditors and at least a dozen active participants. Here it’s literally me talking to a wall. Or no forum at all.
That's a shame. I think I've been talking at my coworkers more without those spaces, probably more than they are interested. But yeah, the empty communities here are just like yelling into the void.
I work from home; my coworker is a dog.
It's good enough now.that I don't get bored but there is still a narrow range of topics that are lively at the moment.
I comment frequently and occasionally post, which puts me in the top % of users per the 90-9-1 rule
Nice! Browsing by All here works great, just block the communities you aren't interested in. I started out subscribing to ones I wanted but the smaller scale makes All decently readable. If there's a community you wish was here feel free to start it!
Browse by All, Top 6 Hours gang rise up
Heck yeah, even browse by New is manageable sometimes!
I like the "new comments" section myself
I do Top 12 because I try to touch grass on occasion.
Reporting for duty.
Is there a way to block communities without having to enter them? Sometimes I'm like "icch, that's nasty", but I have to get all up in the nasty to turn it off.
Okay, I can just c&p the community name to that page. Thanks!
There should be, yeah theres some real... eccentric folks here. Maybe a future update will allow "block community" right from the post. Not to my knowledge, apart from going to your user profile settings and typing it into the actual block list.
Welcome and thanks for joining. I hope you can realize the irony of not joining because not enough other people joined.
Welcome!
Welcome friend!
One of us
One of us!
Me too. TI don't understand this move
Yup. Me too
Wow, jesus. When I read this post's title, I assumed it was being hyperbolic and that they just changed the name of /r/all or something.
Nope. The literal "Front Page of the Internet" that made Reddit what it is is gone. Staggering. What an unrecognizable, catastrophic shithole that place has turned into in the four years since
I've beenI was on it as an active user. (Edit: As in "I left four years ago"; didn't recognize the dual meaning.)If you've only been there 4 years, you never even saw the site when it was good.
Other way around. I left there four years ago having used it actively for effectively a decade. Sorry, that was bad phrasing on my part.
Me too
Remember when Reddit was open source? I can’t even remember when it was made closed source. Holy fuck spaz is a cunt.
Wouldn't it be funny if someone forked the last free software build and made a thrediverse server out if it?
The new reddit design was a pure cancer. I still use old.reddit links because when I tick in settings to opt out of new design, reddit unticks it for me every single fucking month
Man, reddit hasn't been good since Victoria got canned. No scratch that, at least 3 years before that.
Didn't r/all and r/popular become identical after they started filtering NSFW from r/all quite a few years ago? I couldn't tell the difference after that change at least. It honestly makes sense to delete one of them if they're the same.
Edit: Never mind, apparently they removed r/popular too.
Amazing shit. Love how the hapless community manager has to be all "decision won't change but you can shout at the wind for all the help it will do" because they literally have nothing else to say about it
Haha.
Don't worry folks, it was not a basic feature since day one, it was an experiment!
The way it's worded, it does sound like /r/all is the experiment they're referring to.
But I think it makes more sense if they're referring to an experiment involving /r/all. I remember reading months ago that they wanted to remove it, maybe they are referring to an A/B testing experiment (remove it for some people and not for others) there.
Yeah, that makes sense. They had an experiment to see if they could increase ad revenue by removing the all-feed, and now it's concluded and it turns out that yes indeed, enshittification rolls on.
I cannot imagine staying on a service that is openly admitting running experiments on its users to make them as addicted as possible. I guess it's a boiling frog kind of deal.
They said they wanted to remove r/popular a few months ago.
But it looks like they were referring to r/all this entire time.
No, it is clarified within the thread that /r/all will stop working "after the rollout is complete"
You're replying to the wrong comment there. This isn't about whether they'll remove it or not.
Apparently I am, meant to reply to the person pointing their browser there , sorry
I never subscribed to subs. I read all and individual subs.
r/all is too generalized to push targeted advertising on it so every user who spends time on there should in reddits eyes be somewhere else where they can be milked for cash easier
It also trends much more political than /r/popular. (Low quality liberal bait like "DAE think trump bad???" most of the time, but still). Their explicit goal with their "alternative" feeds was to de-rank the political discussions in favor of 9gag-esque slop.
When a big political event happened, you could go to /r/all and be blasted with tens of discussions about it, or go to /r/popular and watch staged animal rescue videos or whatever.
Now I'm not saying it's a conspiracy necessarily, but it certainly is yet another major loss for free political speech online.
edit: I mistakenly throught they were pushing /r/popular still, but they're working towards just a "personalized" feed. eh, nevermind my point.
Not only advertising but also astroturfing, control narratives etc.
That's about it for me then. I exclusively use r/all. Without being signed too.
I don't care if I see content I don't like nor care about. The point is to not be spoon fed some "algorithm". And it lets me see the state of the platform as a whole.
Lol. I think someone's going to teach you what an algorithm actually means but it isn't going to be me.
Fuck every algorithm from what controls what I see on social media to the process of long division and the instructions on how to find my tax deduction!
What is the point of this reply but to publicly announce your smugness. Down voted for low content.
Wtf lmao
Feels like a technique the Trump admin would use to justify something atrocious. "This thing that's always been around? Yeah it was temporary and we're finally getting rid of it! Nobody even used it!"
Users: /r/all is one of the cornerstones that make Reddit Reddit and a central part of its success
Corpo lizards: we have deemed /r/all is too hard to shape into a surveillance capitalism tool, so we're gonna pretend it was a beta feature. Now consoom your Personalized Experience ™
The experiment was to hide r/all from some users and now the experiment ended and they remove r/all completely.
Some retard CEO is drooling somewhere over the excel spreadsheet.
There are better ways to make this comment.
I know, right? I'm self censoring on purpose
Welcome to Lemmy but we don't use slurs here. The problem with CEOs isn't that they have unspecified mental illnesses it's that they're evil pieces of shit
I guess you don't watch South Park either? Your loss, it's an enlightening show
Edgy TV shows don't affect my beliefs that slurs are bad, and they shouldn't affect yours either.
If they can use them and it's okay, then so can I
As a response to this change, here I am on Lemmy instead.
Welcome to Lemmy, the frontpage of the internet.
Please, do help with creating content. Be the change you want to see. Lemmy is for the community, by the community. Welcome!
I'm in this thread because of lemmys "all" view
Welcome! Strap in. It's an opinionated bunch here, to be sure, but also the #1 place I've ever seen on the Internet where people will sometimes go -
"oh, ya know, you were right, my bad". Or similar.
But don't get the wrong idea, still the Internet lol.
Seems like a cool community so far
it's a weird feeling when a feature to see the same stuff that everyone else sees gets removed in favor of personalized feeds. it's like my connection with the outside world was severed. this sucks.
Exactly like FB changing their algorithm so you no longer see friends life updates at all and now see spam, ai slop, and ads.
Which defeats the whole point but at this point Facebook is just hanging on if it's existing user base sucking what little value there is left out of it before it collapses from totally irrelevancy
The modern model for Facebook is as digital flypaper. Trapping users in their ecosystem on the assumption the social network and the poor tech skills, plus the highly addictive algorithm, will keep them mired in psychological quicksand until all their vital essences are harvested.
As disgusting as the site is, I still find myself peaking back in to reach out to an old friend or family member, because that's literally the only way I have to communicate. Incredibly frustrating.
I'm going to save this description. 🎯
Facebook has had a tab that only shows friends content for a while now
The removal of all finally made me feel shitty enough on reddit that I've come back to give Lemmy another shot
They're all basically converging on the same shitty business model, these aren't intended as products for you to use they intend you to serve them
Reading this announcement felt like an April Fools' joke.
r/all is still working for now though, but wtf.
Reddit is completely compromised. Fuckin sad to see. I got Perma banned about a week ago so I suppose there's nothing I'll be missing out on. I hate to sound hyperbolic but the internet we once knew is gone. For a brief moment I. Human history we had almost unrestricted access to the wealth of human knowledge, paired with the ability to form niche forums accessable to everyone within our reach and we squandered it.
End of an era. Now the internet is a circlejerk fest of bots, slop, and propaganda. I migrated to Lemmy, seems like it's starting to hit another wave of growth. I don't see social media having the utility it once did, especially the mainstream sites.
Hell, even Google is slop nowadays. I always prided myself on my Google skills, being able to quickly find answers to whatever I needed. Now the first results are some slop pages that just spew out false information. Even with an adblocker it's a pain to use.
So for years now I often added "reddit" to any Google search, but that lost its value too.
Generally I should be less online anyway (:
Yeah. Something. Like 75-80% of all content on the internet is AI generated now. Might be much worse since that figure was hit a while ago.
The internet isn'tade for humans anymore, which is ultimately something I don't understand. Ai chat bots have taken over and we're calling it "intelligence".
For what? So a few rich fucks can eek out every last penny from us. If you're human, I hope you're well. Maybe getting off the internet is what we really need
I guess we can still have small safe heavens for humans though.
Like I have a Discord server I like chatting on. And just being here on Lemmy again for a day I had more interactions than in a month on Reddit.
Not like r/all was heavily skewed towards one side of content (US politics, satisfying clips, animals doing things, rage stuff).
Doesnt feel like much will be missed that can't be had anywhere else.
even if it was skewed, I knew that it's what everyone else was seeing. it brings a sense of community (even though it started to get overtaken by frontpage bots)
Lmfao so glad I left that dumpster fire. r/all was he only way I ever browsed.
I mean it's been heavily filtered for the better part of a decade. I never really minded some of the filtering, which at first was just quarantining the far right, but then nsfw subs got hidden, etc. Pretty quickly it was the old standard front page with a bit of chaos.
Also strangely enough, when I first started using Reddit around 2011, everyone just went straight to the frontage for everything, and the defaults in the front page dominated the app, it was probably around 2015-2016 that people actually pivoted to /r/all after the defaults of the front page were bland and stagnant, and from then on, the admins have taken steps to make /r/ all bland and stagnant too.
Yeah, and I understand the sentiment that people don't want an algorithm on the site picking what they see, but r/all has been that way for a while. Votes have been manipulated to high hell, and while maybe it's not exactly deciding what you see, it is and always has been 100% deciding what you don't see.
Am I the only one who doesn't use Reddit? That platform has been getting enshittified for years. Plus, Lemmy encourages actual discussions and isn't filled with AI bots.
Sadly like other platforms the population is not high enough on lemmy for exclusivity. Like certain niche sub reddit dont exist on lemmy. Like it still top for tech support searches.
True, but that's easily solvable, especially if people start dual posting
it's got porn though
You should see porn sites!
Just use
old.reddit.comto browse porn, and delete your account.In my experience Lemmy also has great porn, though I'm not picky myself. I was using lemmynsfw.com for a while, but now that's shut down. I think there's been a new instance to replace it.
there is some potential for sure
Unfortunately if you live in a shithole state you can't look at most of it.
based on the fact that I'm referring to Reddit, this is not in fact the case
Instead we actually have a problem of too many leftists of different varieties consistently beefing, so kinda similar to bots sometimes.
I also don't usually use Reddit since i came over to Lemmy and while the content can be a bit thin I much more prefer it over here.
On please, no bot has ever read Bordiga SMH /j
Lemmy is actually somewhere between center and center-right.
Edit: Why is everyone downvoting? As a left winger myself, it's true.
Really? I figured that we got a lot of privileged normies if the arguments I get into over age verification laws are indicative of anything
Reddit and X are the two social media spaces where I legitimately don't know how they're making money lol.
I mean I guess reddit signed an AI deal for content scraping, but what's the point if no useful new content is generated.
Even ignoring the fact that its probably the leading reason why Gemini sucks total crap.
my old company wanted to investigate reddit advertising
the smallest campaign started at $10k USD
They aren't. They run off of VC money and cheap lending. Most of the sudden enshitification we are seeing is a direct consequence of the end of the era of easy money
Not everyone has a product sponsorship. /s
I got permabanned from Reddit for talking mad shit about AI and saying what I think should happen to ICE and Trump, so I guess I didn't care. Pretty funny though.
I got perma'd for saying a straight-up sieg-heiling neo-Nazi harassing a Jewish couple in an American suburb should have his nose broken so he can worry about his own for a change.
At first I was kind of bewildered having had used it for nearly 10 years, but it was much better this way. I try to keep Aesop's famous sour grapes fable in mind when I say things like this, but no: every time I end up on Reddit for some reason, I'm dumbfounded anyone could use it in its current condition. Even beyond the visual vomit that is the UI – before I left, mine was a very "Reddit circa 2015 frozen in time" experience thanks to RiF and RES – it feels like iFunny when I realized it was just backwash from other sites like Reddit and left it.
The content is so painfully insipid. It's all something from fifteen million variations of "/r/damnthatsinteresting", a repost bot, a dogshit tabloid discussing US politics, "ChatGPT writes a clear-cut ragebait story and users tell the OP if they're justified", screenshots from Twitter on their dozenth round of compression, or TikTok's backwash in the form of v.reddit.
A lot of that stuff is here too, but at least it's small enough here that real human interaction happens in the comments regardless, and it's much worse there. I used to get on Reddit for an hour and feel honest-to-goodness enriched by the experience. I felt like I learned new things and saw new, cogent perspectives. I feel utterly hollow on the rare occasion I check Reddit these days, like I just got out of a soulless spin cycle designed to trap me by shutting off my brain.
This is kind of my feelings at this point. The vast majority of Reddit right now is careening towards Facebook levels of bot activity. Be it repost bots, Russian trolls, what have you…it’s just really hard to pick out what’s a real human at this point. Just so much repetitive shit. I will genuinely miss some of the special interest, more niche communities over there. The equivalents on Lemmy are still kind of ghost towns at the moment. But yeah, at first I was angry that I got permabanned (for telling a MAGA that he wasn’t just licking boots, he was deep throating them). But the more I step back and assess the situation, I’m happy those dumbfucks did the job for me. Fuck Reddit. Which is sad, because it used to be pretty fucking amazing.
I've been off for a while and it had been going downhill for years. It was awesome in 2012 and as the 2010's rolled on they started pissing me off more and more.
I'm afraid it's only downhill from here. Reddit's already a shell of it's former self and it will continue to degrade until someone pulls the plug on whatever sorry state it's in
And nothing of value was lost
EDIT: After reading the comments in this thread I think I should elaborate...
The only thing that makes Reddit not X or Facebook are their niche communities. For years, Reddit corporate has been moving to homogenize them and shove them all into a single algorithmic slop feed that auto-adjusts to what you linger on like Tiktok. /r/all and /r/popular are basically just endless slop feeds of bots reposing engagement bait for people with brain rot to look at while they poop. But having slop and topic-based communities in a single feed invites those brainrotted people to jump into any community they are not a member of and vomit all over it without learning the rules/culture/etc.
Honestly I think focusing on and prioritizing their myriad small communities and not the people who want slop feed is a smart move for user retention. I still won't go back there, but I think it's a smart move.
Everyone was the "same" r/all before. They're talking about "personal interests".
They're about to go full Tik Tok and show content as a function of your prior engagement.
I’m waiting for the day when reddit only works with their official mobile app. You have no feed anymore, just see one post at a time, and you can swipe if you want to see the next one
I don't even care anymore to be honest. Most of the legacy social media platforms have become absolute garbage. Reddit was the introduction to the wild west of internet commentary for me. Compared to 15 years ago versus today it's unrecognizable.
Yeah, I still miss classic subreddits such as jailbait and watchpeopledie. Those were the wild west of the internet. Nowadays Reddit is just a stupid website.
Nah you're buggin for this dawg.
Sure there's an element of the remnants of the uncensored net that is met with a sense of nostalgia but you picked one of the worst examples of that, Jesus Christ.
When I use reddit, it's old.reddit exclusively. And old.reddit still has 'all' listed on the top.
I don't use standard reddit, so I don't know if 'all' was on the navigation pane before today or not, but it's not there now. However, reddit.com/r/all still returns a feed, so maybe the address still works.
I think it says something about Reddit and their UX design that old.reddit.com still exists and is incredibly popular like five or six years after they introduced their sparkly air quote new Reddit
Ha, try eight years!
What a dumpster fire. I would be mad about this if I still visited the site! Long, long time since it started enshittifying, and they're not done yet! Get your friends, family, and coworkers to use the fediverse...
If they haven't switched yet, they aren't going to now. Unfortunately the reality.
Former /r/all user here who had zero subreddit subscriptions for over ten years. Left after the api thing.
Clowns
No-one accused the Reddit leadership as smart.
Thats psychotic.
I don't think it has anything to do with paranoid delusions.
Agree to disagree
What's Reddit?
It's like Digg
Since my account got banned I browse r/all and use RES to filter subreddits I don't care for.
It still appears to be there. https://old.reddit.com/r/all/
I got banned for 7 days last week for allegedly being racist. I can't be bothered to argue there point with poorly educated moderators.
Redreader still seems to be pulling posts into a collection like r/all. I have had some theories about how it works and have always used it to have an uncurated experience.
I'm thinking it isn't opening r/all in reddit's API and it instead kind of builds that selection of posts from everywhere on redreader's end. I can't prove it but the fact it's working now seems to play into this. Maybe I'm delusional.
Either way, fingers crossed reddit doesn't get sick of blind people getting to control their own content stream and boot it off the API. Would pretty much fit the bill for their shit
edit: They're actually wanting to kill /r/popular as well which invalidates points I was making, comment withdrawn.
No sweat. I don't think redreader has a popular filter so I wasn't aware of it
Reddit decides to remove it all.
Still works perfectly fine under Old Reddit. Was refreshing the page and browsing it just this morning.
They're saying it will be phased out entirely...
It works, for now
I doubt old Reddit is going to survive much longer. It’s already pretty broken in a lot of ways.
I don't really get the hate for that decision. For years, r/all was just straight up bots upvoting posts. You had posts with 50k+ upvotes and about a hundred comments in total. And the karma farmers made sure you saw the same post 2 or 3 times on the front page, just from different subreddits.
Yeah removing it is the first good decision they’ve made in years. It was a flaming garbage heap on multiple levels that bubbled the most awful stuff to the front page that was blatantly gamed by bad actors.
Edit: are these downvotes because I’m wrong, or because people skim-read it and kneejerk reacted to “reddit did a good thing”?
This won't help or fix anything except ad revenue.
Fortunately a toward the end of the post they tell people how to delete Reddit accounts!
/r/all still works for me.
But they direct users to /r/popular instead... what's the difference there anyway? It doesn't seem to have any special inclusion rules, as I can still get all the zero upvote zero comment posts if I sort by new. So I don't see what the point of /r/popular was/is before /r/all's removal.
They curate the subs that appear.
All is everything minus a deny list (nsfw).
Popular is a list of what they approve, or more recently it's the algorithmic feed.
I only used my own subs for my personal interests or All to discover something new. It was, at least at one time, good for surfacing things I never would have looked for. More often things that didn't interest me, but that was valuable in itself.
Huh interesting, thanks for explaining! Sorting by new includes all kinds of random subs, so it doesn't look much more curated to me than /r/all, though.
Per the thread, it is on its deathbed.
r/popular can be set to a country. For the US, it’s pretty similar to r/all for any other country, it’s distinct and boosts local subreddits and language.
Maybe the reason I don't see much of a difference is because I'm using old reddit?
What country did you select?
I'm not sure I follow, I didn't select anything. Can't find a setting about it in preferences. Well, except for the general location setting which seems to be a shreddit-only feature, as I need to go to shreddit to set it.
OH, I see now. I idiotically didn't check the hot sort, the others don't have that option. So this explains hot, but I'm still wondering what the difference is with the others.