Why are americans taking health advice from a former heroin addict ?
This sounds like a stupid question, but I'm being genuine.
He is telling people to eat more meat, which sounds absolutely insane to me.
What qualifies him to give health advice ? Why are americans trusting him ?
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Being a former heroin addict doesn't make someone a bad source of information, especially if they've turned their lives around.
But I agree otherwise
Having a worm drive your thoughts does tho..
Yeah, "from a guy with a dead worm in his brain" would make for a better question.
It isn't exactly a credential.
Right, but you wouldn’t put a former heroin addict in this position. The optics alone are sure to cause trust issues and this guy is nowhere close to being qualified to run HHS.
I feel like goddamn brain worm should be a hard disqualify for jobs that impact health.
Why would a previous tape worm infection disqualify you?
I think they're getting at that there is suspicion he caused it himself by doing things like drinking raw milk.
I don't think you can get it from dairy products but undercooked meat for sure
It was more the first thing that came to mind from his grab bag of questionable health ideas.
For the dairy though, I was thinking more a secondary body infecting the milk like rat droppings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiostrongylus_cantonensis (One of the reasons why snails/slugs are so dangerous if ingested unprepared)
That parasite doesn’t make brain cysts, Taenia solium does. Eosinophilic meningitis is different from neurocysticercosis, which is what he’s suspected of having.
Bro ate undercooked pork.
Because he specifically argued in his divorce that he suffers cognitive impairment and therefore he projects less future earnings. So he himself basically argued he is not smart enough to earn even as much as the average guy.
So in his own words, he has a cognitive impairment that will not go away. Now either you trust his advice (which assumes it's good advice, and kinda goes against him saying under oath he will have cognitive impairment) or you think he was saying the truth under oath and now his advice is not worth too much.
Basically you have to decide which version of his you wanna trust. And if I have to decide between "he is dumb" or "he lied under oath", I know one thing for sure - and that is to be very skeptical of anything he says.
Fuck RFK but I will never hold being a former heroin addict against him.
Yea it's not the addiction or even the brainworms that disqualify him, it's simply his stupidity.
But you must consider the possibility that heroin and brain worms damaged his brain, contributing to the stupidity, and his own stupid choices led to those circumstances that possibly increased his stupidity. Thus he remains open to criticize on all those topics.
I don’t think heroin addiction necessarily damages your brain, and if you make it out the other side you will have learned quite the lesson (presumably)
Anything that causes respiratory depression lowers available oxygen to the brain and can cause damage over time.
I understand the sentiment of destigmatizing addiction, but let's not lie and say it can't cause permanent damage. It's a disease, right? And diseases can have aftermath.
This is true, but I didn’t suggest that it can’t cause brain damage, just that it doesn’t necessarily have to follow. People with sleep apnea or who live at high altitudes don’t all have brain damage either.
If this was true those on chronic opiate medications would be given supplemental oxygen. There would also be studies demonstrating the neurodegenerative effects of opiates.
Opiates are rather safe outside of overdose and sequelae of unsafe injection / smoking. They are incredibly benign in the sense you could take 20-40-80-160mg OxyContin your whole life and not have any issues beyond constipation.
Managed prescriptions are taken in safe doses. There's no way to guarantee someone addicted to illicit opiates will stay below the threshold of dangerous consumption.
Even alcohol in large enough quantities kills brain cells. Stop pretending addiction is harmless, because it's not helping addicts the way you seem to think it is.
I never said addiction was harmless. However, your claim that opiate addiction causes neurological issues due to oxygen deprivation outside of an acute overdose is unfounded. If this was the case, chronic opiate users (in the strictly clinical sense) would be given supplemental oxygen.
Stupid people are redeemable as well. But this asshole has seen the science, ignores it, and continues to spread his lies that will harm and/or kill people for political reasons...
Yea I guess you can fix stupid, but you can't fix willful ignorance when presented with facts and evidence. I have long thought it made no sense that all these govt positions don't require any expertise in the area they legislate.
I don't think you can fix stupid. "Stupid" is label of intellectual capacity. And we ain't Algernon'd anybody for real.
Listen, I'd hire a former heroin addict for a job no problem, but I don't think I would date one.
Rfkjr is unqualified for his position.
He spent his entire life literally destroying his mind. Is he bad because he is an addict? Perhaps not, but he has significant brain damaged because of the drugs.
I am all for recovery but the truth is he will never have the mental faculties to be a leader because of his life choices. He will never be able to make a full recovery. That is not discrimination, that is just reality.
No. This logic is fatalist bullshit.
Drugs have consequences whether you accept it or not.
They do, i know. Theyre not certain. The consequences depend on lots of factors. To disqualify someone because they used drugs without looking more into how it affected that specific person is fatalist bullshit.
Oh yeah, I totally get that. It is obvious that RFK has brain damage which affects his ability to think clearly. This is specific to him doing hard drugs for decades.
Also, just because you wouldn't make a good leader because of damage you did to your mind does not change that you should be treated with dignity and care.
When oxygen to the brain is habitually suppressed, brain damage can occur. That's not fatalist, it's just reality.
That doesn't imply addiction is a moral failing. It's a disease, and diseases can have permanent effects.
I agree brain damage CAN occur. Thats not the same statement i was criticizing.
You called it fatalistic bullshit to say RFK jr. has permanent brain damage...
No no. I was calling the logic bullshit. The reasoning was bad, not the conclusion. Learn to interpret text.
I do not need to take a hard look at this to clearly see that this is a person who does not approach life with the scientific method in mind.
Being a drug addict does not accidentally happen. It suggests a flawed decision making process which should make someone ineligible to be making decisions which affect millions of people.
I don't look down on someone for being a heroin user, but I do trust their decision making process less than I would trust someone who did not make that decision.
You can't get a security clearance with a history of narcotics addiction. Nor can you join the military. Because the addiction compromises you and your judgement.
There is no such thing as a 'former addict'.
If this was true then hating Israel would have been an epidemic during the Vietnam era.
Uh huh. Apply for a security clearance sometime and see how far they sniff up your ass before you're granted access to that scif you need to do your job.
Fuck rfk, but him being a former heroin addict is probably his least worst trait.
I'm sure he was just as crazy before and during as he is after.
I'm not taking his advice, not trusting him with anything.
This administration is nothing but a bunch of ignorant narcissistic racist scared buffoons who were taken from Fox News. The people who trust him are ignorant narcissistic racist scared buffoons who watch Fox News.
It's really amazing how inept they all are.
I dunno. I think it’s really too bad they melted down the demon core. I’d probably trust him to run a supercriticality experiment all on his own.
Wtf is wrong with being a former heroin addict? I know plenty of drug users and former drug users who aren't fascist shitstains and are actually pleasant people. Also like, you're going after him for being a former addict? God forbid someone be in a bad place in life and luckily manage to recover from it... Addiction, a health condition, just morally scars you for life then? Would you say that about someone who recovered from cancer? Fuck off.
yeah the question is not phrased properly
it should be "why are the people who give former drug addicts a bunch of shit when it's convenient to them now paying attention to a former addict"
It's about the hypocrisy, not the person's past
Good take.
This is honestly a disgusting take because it shows how biased you are against addicts. Not a stupid question. Just a nasty one. Your 2nd and 3rd are good questions though. I don't think there's jack shit qualifying him to give health advice in reality. He's a crackpot supplement pusher. Which I feel kinda answers your 3rd; americans have a long history of being stupid and blindly trusting whatever the pill-pusher says, because they hear what they want to hear. Unfortunately.
I hate RFK and all the damage he's done/is doing to our country's general state of health. His history of addiction is literally last on the list of reasons not to trust him. In my view, a history of addiction (now being in recovery) usually gives you a pretty sane view of health, since it brings you so close to death. The overwhelming majority of recovering addicts that I know lead healthier lifestyles than non-addicts. Oftentimes when people see with clarity how much damage they've done to themselves, they desperately want to treat their body better.
This was exactly my first thought. He should be disqualified for many reasons, but that ain't one of them. Thinking that way is why we have him.
Every Cabinet position is filled with the worst possible person for the job. This is done on purpose to make the government fail at all the things it should be doing. We knew this would happen, of course.
Take everything they say as examples of what not to do. Don't do what Donny Don't does.
I've got nothing against people with former drug problems. I don't trust him because he's a doofus.
Did everyone forget he drove around with a dead animal, and dumped it into a park?
No one should listen to this insane lunatics ramblings. But the addiction is a symptom, not the problem. He likely became an addict because he was mentally ill. Or, the addiction (and brain worm, and eating random dead things) made him mentally ill.
Either way, someone with delusions shouldn't be in charge of anything.
He chopped the head off of a whale, strapped it to the family car, and drove it home as the viscera dripped into the cabin onto his wife and daughter.
He was doing drugs 30 years ago. He's a spoilt rich kid
This question really pushes the boundaries of the concept of "no stupid questions", but I will respect the premise and answer with all seriousness.
There is nothing about being a former anything that is automatically disqualifying.
Not everything he says is without merit. Even a blind, dumb squirrel can accidentally find a nut.
Americans aren't trusting him. He is only respected by the deluded cult members, and then only because their pedophile leader tells them to.
The people who don't realize he's full of shit are the people who can't handle being the most ignorant person in the room. They're swallowing all the bullshit that this administration spits out because it's the only way they can pretend they are better than everyone else.
It's all just corrupt, diseased minds taking advantage of other corrupt, diseased minds. If they didn't reject the compassion of their opponents, I'd have sympathy for them. However, they chose the darkness.
If he was a progressive pro-intellectual/science ex-heroin users in an alternate timeline, would that still be a disqualifier?
No, the point is that the has made constant bad decisions and the meme uses one of the most obvious.
Why are americans taking health advice from a man who got brain worms from eating roadkill and didnt learn his lesson?
Thats the more appropriate question.
A third of the US are beyond help, beyond fucking stupid. Another third can't be arsed to do anything, they're so apathetic. One will follow without question, the other might go either way.
Also Shitler put RFK in place, so we're all forced to hear his moronic opinions...
Apathy comes from depression and grasping at things that don't make sense can be read as anxiety. America failed to develop an educational system and now has no clue how to cope with stresses being applied to it.
It didn't fail its been slowly dismantled for years... they want people to be dumb so they can control them...
That swings too close to conspiracy theory territory. Hanlon's razor still applies. The powerful didn't say 'I want them dumb, so I will defund the schools.' They said 'I don't get anything out of paying for other people's schooling, so I won't.' Then it was 'just world' bias combined with PR to bring it into the mainstream.
Defeating the just world bias at scale is probably one of the greatest hurdles to achieving anything really great on a societal level. How do you achieve a sane middle ground between 'I deserve everything I experience. Luck had nothing to do with it,' and 'I have no agency whatsoever.'?
Some people in that first third aren't that stupid but they're gullible and insecure. Maybe also a little stupid. My girlfriend's dad, for example. He's not the sharpest tool in the shed, I think he's about average intelligence, but he's gullible and insecure. I think he got sucked in when he started listening to some questionable podcasts.
There are SEEMINGLY UNLIMITED reasons to discredit this person and one of them is not 'addict in recovery'.
Hell, for the right person that could've made them even more credible.
Americans are not, but Republicants are.
They're not. Make no mistake, MAGA is full of a myriad of ideologies ranging from fascists, christian nationalists, white supremacists, anti vaxers, misogynists, transphobes/homophobes/terfs, pedophiles, capitalists/monopolists, incels, manosphere bros, and more.
They don't care about what they together stand for, because as a single entity? They only stand for one thing: the power to take away social and civil liberties. To fuck the public, and maximize profit and control, to MAKE us all, at home and abroad, comply.
Even amongst MAGA, RFK Jr is a joke, only a small subset of MAGA take him seriously and luckily they'll be dead of heart attacks and treatable diseases soon. What's sad is they'll have taken down so many innocents along with them. RFK Jr is there to distract the American public of the real issues with our Health Care System which is mainly affordability, access, and a competitive public option. It's not that he's even in the pocket of Big Pharma, though that is likely true. But even if he isn't, Big Pharma still benefits from his incompetency, from the sideshow he creates.
Hopefully that clears things up. Americans aren't stupid because they don't have access to the medical research and information, Americans are stupid because their pride tells them that their intuition and their echo chambers of validation make them right in spite of aforementioned research and information. That's MAGA, that's America.
Basically all of us are choosing the devils we know because we gave up on looking for angels of our better nature long ago.
Wonderfully put. If people really want to make MAGA go away, they need to first understand the underlying structure.
90% of MAGAts aren't taking RFK seriously. But he's there to appeal to the 10% that want him there. Now who's that group? Mostly the people that opposed the health measures put forth during the pandemic. Remember that anti-health and even anti-vax groups were extremely small and irrelevant before the pandemic. The (in my opinion) justifiably tough measures we had to endure unfortunately created disenfranchised individuals who felt attacked and wanted revenge on the system afterwards. MAGA offered a place for them to go to. Some of them aren't actively anti-LGBT or anti-immigration, but they thought the other side tried to poison them and their kids, therefore they're bad, therefore let's vote Republican.
That's how everything works. The anti-immigrant crowd doesn't really care about vaccines for the most part. But they've seen too many tiktoks of brown people shoplifting or doing X or Y bad thing. So now they feel the country has been taken over by a hostile mob of aliens. ICE and Kristy Noem appeal to that crowd.
Meanwhile, Technofascists probably aren't anti-health and also probably don't care too much about immigration, but they absolutely hate regulations, taxes for the wealthy and want to make as much money in digital grifting as possible. So they ally with the religious nuts, the anti-vax nuts and the racists because they can make more money.
The incels and contrarians are mostly internet edgelords who saw far too many blue-haired libs and women trying to ruin video games for them, so they grouped together to bring down wokeness. Because to them, wokeness ruined fun, ruined Star Wars and Ghostbusters and a bunch of other things they feel were ruined by Hollywood. This was the main group in charge of radicalising younger people.
And the Christian right is a mix of all of the above, but take the hardcore churchgoers from every group.
There are others. Anti-trans, anti-LGBT, etc. Each group has actually little to do with the other. Like the anti-Hollywood incel crowd is extremely antisemitic, while the Technofascist crowd claims to be super pro-Jewish (they're only pro-Israel). In theory they should be opposed to each other. But MAGA is the temporary truce between them to fight this hypothetical common enemy.
That's why they've fabricated this idea of the Antifa domestic terrorist in kahoots with the immigrant criminal gangster. They need to idealize these two groups as part of the larger problem because if they don't, the entire MAGA movement collapses.
Therefore, fascism in the US can realistically only be stopped by:
The internal collapse of MAGA: Infighting or a big enough issue to make the gap between them insurmountable.
Military intervention: the armed forces or other groups with enough control of violence and weapons overthrow the government.
A civil war: the country reaches a breaking point and devolves into full on insurrection movements, separationist movements, and renders MAGA useless as it becomes the only allowed ideology in one of the two (or more) combatants.
I know people on Lemmy love the idea of insurrections and revolutions. But if someone doesn't want to see a lot of bloodshed in the next few years, then they'd be hoping for one of the first two options.
Dude, either you are me, or I've been spending waaaay too much time on Lemmy, or both, lol.
Same fucking page. You broke it down better than I did. No notes.
Most of us aren’t.
The ones that are, are already so far down the rabbit hole they wouldn’t recognize reality anyway.
Being a heroin addict does not make you a bad person anymore than having diabetes. Fuck off with that moralistic shit.
The guy is a scourge of humanity because of the choices he made and beliefs he holds. Don't make it look like heroin is the cause.
No on said heroin makes you a bad person, it sure as hell doesn't give you credit to give health advice.
Would you take driving lessons from someone who's never driven a car? Or has crashed every car they've owned?
Same idea, who the fuck is this McDonald's eating fuck to give advice on health?
Not to mention all the dumbass comments he's made about nearly eradicated diseases like measles, he's a trumper, so he supports child rape and murdering of civilians who dont lick the boots and bow down to tangerine shitler.
The clickbait title implies the problem is his drug use and not, you know, any of his actual character flaws.
Him being a former heroin addict is completely besides the point. His opinions and arguments would still be bullshit if he were the most competent medical professional in the world.
Nice ad hominem fallacy. This is at its core like saying AOC is an incompetent politician because she was a bartender once. It does not matter for the validity of their opinions.
As an American: I’m not. Just bc he was appointed doesn’t mean I trust him (nor did I vote for trump). The people that do believe RFJ Jr were fucking crazy conspiracy theorists to begin with
As others have pointed out, being a dry addict ISN'T a reason do dismiss what someone is saying, even about health.
Being the guy whose brain worm died from mercury poisoning, though..
Even that isn't the problem.
He was already promoting anti-vacs conspiracy theories in 2004. The tapeworm was removed in 2010. I doubt he had it for that long
Former?
Why would Americans elect a serial bankruptcy business man, narcissst, and convicted sexual assault felon to appoint this loon?
Because there are no simple answers.
47 wants to disrupt and cause chaos in everything. The department of health is just another area for chaos, hence the appointment of this guy. I think it's fairly safe that most Americans - and that includes many nominal supporters of the current GOP cultish clowncar - do not take their health advise from worm brain. It's just unfortunate that he's in a position of power where he will cause harm that will prevail long after he's retired, or dead.
It's not a reason to discount someone's views, is why. Addicts are still people, worthy of respect and dignity. The real reason to discount RFK is that he's wrong about most topics pertaining to health and he doesn't respect the science or evidence that contradict his opinions. The problem is that most of the electorate is scientifically illiterate, the end result being an over privileged dunce like RFK deciding how your health care is organised. Can't put an insurance premium on that. Good luck guys.
A lot of us are dumber than shit. They elected a president who is dumber than shit and he picked a secretary of health who is dumber than shit. I personally ignore everything RFK Jr. says.
Americans aren't. Fascist ignoramuses are. Those are not americans
He might have had the microphone before, but then legions of non-voters granted him THE POWER over their lives!
wHeN tHeRe'S aN eLeCTiOn YoU oNLy eLeCt OnE pErSoN!
bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL
i Am NoT LiKe A mEdiEvaL pEaSaNt, i Am a PuRe AnD eNLigHtEnEd DeLiCaTe FLoWeR
You don't just elect one person. You elect that one and you get everyone that one appoints.
Ah yes, No True American.
Heartwarming how many comments are defending sufferers of addiction in here from being lumped in with this piece of shit. Fedi remains such a breath of fresh air.
No one is taking his advice.
My last job was at a very large university, top 25 SEC state school. My boss supported Trump in part because she knew RFK was going to fix things.
Americans don't trust him at all. His own large, famous family hates him with a passion, every single one of them. He was thrust upon us by professional trolls who think it's hilarious to watch people who actually care about their nation and it's citizens get upset.
...do you not understand this position isn't even elected? I'm not fucking trusting him.
An avid user of drugs sounds like someone who would be knowledgeable about them, so clearly a smart choice
Nobody is trusting him.
He’s unqualified just like everyone else Trump appoints. Why is this a surprise?
You would be absolutely surprised how many people are trusting him…
Shake shack is advertising with MAHA as a tagline
Good to know. I don't want whatever they are letting slip into their food.
Fuck that guy, but: Former heroin addict sounds respectable.
True. He's in government, and specifically that government, so he has access to all the money and drugs he wants, so if he's remaining clean, he's doing exceptionally well on that score.
This should not be taken as an endorsement of his abilities as a politician or his knowledge about science. Plenty of other evidence suggests he should be doing neither of those. Hell, I'm not even sure I'd follow his advice if I was a heroin addict trying to get off the stuff.
This is very much a "You don't know what you don't know" kind of situation.
I once read a case about a physicians assistant who worked under a bariatric surgeon for 15 years. After completing thousands of bariatric surgeries under the surgeon, he started his own clinic and hired a "supervising surgeon" who was retired and never there. Meaning, even though he was not a doctor, he was acting as the only surgeon. He botched botched dozens of surgeries, he caused pain and suffering to dozens of other people. He had no idea what the surgeon was doing that he wasn't, because he wasn't trained to perform that role. Instead of recognizing he couldn't do it, he just assumed he knew anything necessary.
People take that approach to a lot of things. Very common in the law for people to look something on chatgpt and get mad at their lawyer for not following completely non-sensical advice.
Doesn't the US even allow nurses to inject potent neurotoxins, as long as there is a doctor on the books that could theoretically be called?
He’s not trusted by most Americans.
Even his own family members have said he is in no state of mind or health to be in any position of authority whatsoever.
Again, we americans are not. Only the antivax fools are.
I've been addicted to uh, almost everything besides heroin and gambling. I still give better advice than deflated-scrotum-face. But I also know how science works and why it's a good thing. I believe in germ theory. I don't throw roadkill on the roof of my car and eat it tartare later.
People with old, dead, rotten brains recognize his Dad and Uncle's name. It reminds them vaguely of a time when their own father's were in charge of all the hard decisions, their joints didn't hurt and they had an undefined future that could have been wonderful. That future has come though and turns out they are just themselves... they failed, nothing fun they wanted really happened and everything confuses them now. They feel like frauds about to be found out and forgotten at the same time.
So seeing something they think they recognize voting for "a Kennedy" makes them indirectly fell that their own Dad will magically come back to life, tell them he's proud and then they will be millionaires and attractive people will want to have have sex with them and fix their iPhones.
It's just that.
This all stems from eroded systems coupled with a lack of good education and our media. Not everyone is listening to him but his messages didn't become popular overnight. The carnivore diet, raw milk, anti vaccine, anti masking, anti fluoride movements have been bubbling in echo chambers for decades now.
Because people weren't smart enough to see through them, they've created a market for alternative health and pseudo science.
We're living that quote from Carl Sagan.
Because we don't have a choice of who is in that position. The Grand Old Fascist Party has completely removed any form of democracy in this country. So now we are just stuck watching it happen.
We could, you know, stop voting for fascists.
Sorry, best I can do is a protest non-vote, that way they know I'm okay with whatever happens
^/s^
Just because junior is saying stuff doesn't mean Americans are listening or obeying.
Most of us aren't. Hell, most of us didn't listen to the Secretary of Health and Human Services before.
There are pictures of this guy eating dog roasted on a spit. I am certain he picked up that dead bear because he wanted to eat it (the one he dumped and made it look like it was hit by a scooter).
America is not a meritocracy. People are routinely appointed to positions they have no business being in.
Also, Kennedy represents a crowd that is fundamentally lost to a social media reinforced "vibes based" reality. These people can live a solid major of their day without encountering objective reality. Their worlds are built around bullshit machines incentivised to feed them an ever increasing amount of bullshit.
These people votes, drive cars, have children, and carry firearms. So you can see why this place is so fucked.
Because he says 'things weren't like this when I was a kid' and it resonated hard with dumb people who see stuff like autism and transgender problems to be eradicated
Lack of education.
I certainly don't take health advice from that crypt keeper looking fucker, and I'm sure I'm far from the only one who doesn't take health advice from unhealthy people
Fox News. Endless propaganda and ratings driven idiocy. People watch the most alarmist "news" and they jump on this bandwagon of stupidity. In particular, people of limited education/intelligence love to be anti science, because for once they can feel like the person that is actually smart.
It's scary.
Green planet, veganism, healthy ... all woke lefty communist snowflake bullshit. Eat meat, must be more gooderer. Eat more meat must be most gooderest!
For those that are listening to him. It's because he's pandering to what they want to hear. Not because what he's saying is right.
I'm an American, and I'm certainly not taking any advice from him
The new food pyramid is just as influenced by lobbyist as the previous one. Only this time it's the life stock industry.
Plus anti-woke MAGA wants to distance itself from vegans as much as possible.
But also, lean, fresh meat isn't that bad. It does have a lot of protein, with really balanced amino-acids. You don't have to carefully combine grains and legumes, in order to not miss out on essential nutrients.
Meat also has a lot of bioavailable iron and vitamin B12. Both are important and usually insufficient in a vegan diet.
If you count fish as meat, it also has bioavailable Omega-3. Especially fatty ocean-fishes like salmon. If you don't eat fish, you either have to eat microalgae-oil or severely reduce your omega-6 consumption (no chips for you. They are fried in sunflower oil).
In contrast to fresh meat, most processed meats are really bad:
And you also shouldn't eat a lot of fat from land animals. It has a lot of saturated fats which, you guessed it, cause cancer.
Yeah but he has such a smooth velvety voice, who could refuse?
(No offense to decent people with “textured” timbres)
I've gone zero days since the 2024 election without seeing a liberal target fascists with insults that are oriented toward vulnerable groups. Jokes about old people being valueless, queer people being weak and deceptive, fatness as a sign of poor moral character. People who make these jokes also incomprehensibly claim that they challenge fascism fundamentally and not only when it comes for them.
This man is going to be singlehandedly responsible for an incalculable number of deaths (many of which will be addicts who are disproportionately excluded from access to medical treatmen) and he is in the position to do so by capitulating to an infamous pedophile, rapist, and failed business man. What kind of person would take the opportunity to assert that addicts aren't to be trusted when talking about a man who is already RFK Jr.?
because he brought beef tallow fries back
if you have not had the pleasure will instantly change your opinion
beef tallow fries are fucking awesome
steak n' shake is one of the places where can find everything fried in beef fat not just the fries but the onion rings chicken tenders everything
even offer beef tallow by itself to fry with at home
plus addicts know their healthcare paraphernalia and can find a vein better than any nurse
They are really pretending meat has healthy fat, lol?
If they had simply left out that single word, their advice on fats would have been pretty good.
Having a former heroin addict in the highest health policy position is nothing compared to voting a fraud and pedophile into the highest office in the country. Twice!
It's not like we're all doing that. Or even most of us.
Hold on, we don't know if he's still on heroin.
When you’re famous they let you
Because they are morons.
The politically correct term is 'people of the land'
He such a fucking dumbass even if we have some ovelapping nutritional beliefs and predilection for the ol' narcotics
We aren't. We just have one giving it.
I mean shit, i can't tell you how many people, doctors included, have been aghast that i might have to take a pill every day the rest of my life for blood pressure. as though it's an addiction. people are fucking idiots.
Only americans can put the question this stupid way, and so it really fits here: Well done!
Because we are being led by a convicted felon who sexually assaults his child employees.
Uneducated populace stuck in propaganda channels.
When was the last time you ate more or less of something because someone in the government told you to?
Corn syrup yesterday
RFK Jr. wanted to lead the USA's health department against a believed massive conspiracy by big-Whatever. Trump gave RFK Jr. a slot so RFK Jr. didn't split the far-right crazy vote in the 2024 election.
In 2024, RFK Jr. launched an independent bid for the presidency after floating challenging Joe Biden's spot in the Democratic Party. RFK Jr. had no chance of winning the Democratic primary or an independent bid; but being a conspiracy theorist and all-around horrible person, it was possible that RFK Jr. may have split enough of that population from key states to cause Trump to lose. That conspiracy theory nonsense really doesn't hold water in the Democratic voter base. The folks who would choose RFK Jr. over Harris or Trump, would otherwise choose Trump over Harris.
Recall that in 2016, Trump won many key states with <54% of the vote; and in 2020, Biden flipped those key states after Trump's mismanagement of the Covid-19 pandemic and other controversies. Even losing 3% of the popular vote in a few states to RFK Jr. may have cost Trump the election in 2024, or so it was feared.
Lots of people here are giving explanations of why the citizens may support RFK Jr. and, while that is all true, the reality is most of Trump's campaign staff are just loyalists (i.e. Pam Bondi), alt-right conspiracy theorists (i.e. Kash Patel), and folks who assisted in his election campaign (i.e. Elon Musk, Dr. Phil). Many of these are figures are people largely unknown of until they were appointed to be Trump's staff. RFK Jr. leads the HHS because he was given that role by Trump. As to why the USA folk chose Trump; Well, we've been having that conversation for 15 months now.
There's a half-naked photo of him, where he's swole, then people decided he looked "healthy", because the body building community managed to control the narrative around the health implications of the sport.
We aren’t. Most of us aren’t anyway.
Because he has money, and you don't.
Former heroin addict. Now say that in the RFK voice.
I gotta say, from an Australian perspective, American politics is so extra, like an ex heroin Addict becoming the health minister, and some coked up orange business man who thinks he’s the second coming of Christ is the president? And the USA became fascistic in like a year? That’s wild
Aussie politics is just a boring ass democracy with some of the spicy American inspired silliness for the aesthetics, as well as most people being on the same page but like 2 politicians arguing about some insignificant idea somehow appearing on national news, or that group of people who want Albanese dead for just existing, which is a bit odd I gotta say.
Didn't one of your politicians order the arson of an aussie youtuber's house?
Actually yeah, John Barilaro was the NSW Deputy Premier at the time, who had joined the Coronation Property development company (which was allegedly connected to gangs if I’m not mistaken), and when Friendly Jordies, the YouTuber in question, exposed the NSW Nationals Party’s actions to basically sabotage a town they were voted into as a way to drive out younger voters (basically to guarantee them a seat in parliament indefinitely), Barilaro allegedly ordered the fire bombing of Jordies house, but they botched it and fire bombed the neighbours house, then went back to hit the correct house.
I did do a little bit of researching to refresh my mind on it (since I saw the whole saga around 2 or 3 years ago), and turns out Barilaro apparently wasn’t connected to the attacks, but then again, the timing is kinda suspicious how Friendly Jordies’ house was fire bombed in 2022, the same year Barilaro was employed with the developer, although I’ll just leave that as speculation.
Honestly though, this has gotta be one of the rare occasions of when politics here is genuinely really interesting and kinda deranged, and I haven’t really heard issues like this to this calibre here.
I think he's trying to substitute populism for health science, which is irresponsible and awful and will kill people. That he's using eugenicist language in the process, and eliminating vaccines because 'big pharma corruption' while not meaningfully checking big pharma power or abuses smells like a plan to watch the children of vulnerable populations die. The rest of it- making noise about redesigning the food pyramid- is just smoke. The 'new' recommendations are just a rebranding of previous recommendations to pretend like they're doing something about how our food systems are shitty because mostly FDA spends food money to subsidize the ag industry and processed subsidized product is profitable in ways that healthy food often isn't
More simple than you'd think, dumb people only trust other dumb people's advice, there is no cure for stupid, unfortunately
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But I’m American and I’m not taking his advice. He’s a moron.
Because most Americans are drug-addicts themselves.
People got tricked to vote between a pedophile and a guy with dementia and this guy ended up in power as a result.
If you wonder why people trust authorities so much we own part of that to centuries of living under rulers and people getting leashed.
Which one was Harris? The pedophile or the guy with dementia?
The one endorsing a genocide.
I don't think the election was between trump and Trump. That would be worrisome