Well to be fair they did come in to rescue us after Hitlers mess. I'm not against saving Americans from the mess they created. Not sure if i would risk my life, but the ice Gestapo is making me wonder if that would be the humane thing to do. But no judgement from my part, i totally get your fuck-them attitude.
They came and saved us from Hitler once they were under attack themselves, they didn't just jump in immediately. Hitler was quite popular in certain circles in the US before they joined the war. But yeah they did help Europe and the soldiers that gave their life for that are heroes.
On another note, the Soviet Union also helped fight against Hitler as much as the Allies.
the Soviet Union also helped fight against Hitler as much as the Allies.
Both true, i'd prefer if we didn't have to jump in and the US sorts itself out without foreign intervention. But when i see these razzias against people of colour or read stories from the lgbtq, I cannot think it's their problem.
shouldnt lgbtq+ issues in the EU be resolved first by the EU?
edit: i was referencing the fact that half of the voting population of an EU country would rather voting for someone who said that They™ are putting microchips in soda and that someone who allied with nazi germany and was responsible for the deaths of, according to wikipedia, at least a quarter of a million jews was a national hero than for someone who said she was going to make same sex civil unions legal
if they cant ensure that people from one of their countries doesnt vote for someone who said loved nazis and fascists, how can they make sure that a country from another continent wont support someone who requires you knowing the definition of fascism to say he is one
Hitler was still popular in the US with more people than most would guess even after the war. Racism is deeply ingrained into the US state, has been from the very start (obviously) and never left.
Don't worry, there's no way that the US wouldn't make it Europe's problem if he started invading other nations.
He could only invade Mexico or South America without triggering article 5. Since Canada and Greenland (through Denmark) are both NATO members if he messes with them then its immediately a good chunk of Europe's problem. There's also French Guiana in South America and some islands in the carribean I forgot when I started typing that would also trigger article 5.
US was hesitate to join yet another european squabble. The horrors of WW1 was still fresh in people's minds. Also, the us wasnt sitting on their hands as it was becoming inevitable US would be forced to join. The US probably would had declared war on germany in 1942 even if japan never attacked.
On another note, the Soviet Union also helped fight against Hitler as much as the Allies.
The same one that was allied with hitler and invaded poland side by side? We're just lucky hitler was a dumbass and back stabbed them.
Newsflash, Hitler was quite popular in countries all across Europe before he invaded those people's countries. Antisemitism has always been a reoccurring issue in Europe and the US, with many people and governments supporting the Nazi's opinion about Jews. Most people supported a nonconfrontational policy of letting Germany do their own thing so long as they didn't come after them...and then Germany came after them. The idea that Hitler's popularity was limited to any one country is whitewashing of history to hide the fact that he had the implicit support of many in Europe who either agreed with him or simply didn't want to start another Great War. It's the same reason that the foundation and recognition of Israel as a country had widespread support across Europe and the US from many antisemitic groups/people in power. They saw it as a perfect solution to get rid of Jews in Europe. They were even volunteering to deport themselves to the desert!
That's not to say that the US is some knight in shining armor goody two shoes or something. The US is the only other country to have held Nazi rallies, and almost joined the war on the other side once or twice. But the US was also largely focused on a policy of isolationism and wanted to stay out of a war in Europe. The US also spent years funding England during the early part of the war, who first used that money to send additional funds to France alongside that which they already were, and then used that money themselves when they actively joined the war. And the US provided all kinds of military equipment to the Allies before entering the war through the Lend-Lease program. The general opinion that I see is that the US was gearing up to officially enter the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, and that that had the effect of an inciting incident which caused any pro-isolationist groups within the country to change their position and accelerated the US's timetable rather than being the reason that the US got involved at all.
Like fuck they did. The U.S. came in at the butt end after Russia sent millions of their people into the meat grinder.
People love to give the U.S. a clap on the back, but in reality they're the slacker who did fuck all during the group project, and then came in at the very tail-end of the presentation, subsequently getting all the acknowledgement for it.
Churchill is hailed as a hero when he fucking starved millions of Indians, and withheld that information from their families he forced to the front, and who the fuck this day and age thanks the Indians for their contribution in saving Europe's ass?
Mexico's biggest problem is America. And Europe better stay the fuck away, we have brought nothing but horror to Mexico. Or to the Americas as such, honestly.
Mexico's problems largely boil down to drug trafficking to America for American dollars and fuelled by American weapons flowing into the country. This is highly contemporary.
The history of Mexico is the history of Europeans entering into a place where they had no business at all and killing and destroying everything because they fucking suck. That was way before 1825, but I see no reason to forget about it.
Funny enough those weirdos were welcomed in rather generously by the Netherlands who wanted to provide refuge.
But the fact that they were so open and not prejudiced enough disgusted the Quakers who tried desperately to shame them with Preaching Tours™ until the Quakers decided to leave entirely.
You may be conflating the quakers with a different religious group.
While still a religious group, the quakers are largely one of the most accepting. They were initially given trouble by the Dutch. Their numbers have never really been high enough to have the type of social sway that you're thinking.
Maybe you're thinking the puritans or pilgrims? They're the ones who kinda took over. Shame, inherent sin and all that.
The quakers are the pacifist abolitionists who think church should be a group of people quietly thinking in someone's home until someone feels moved to share an idea.
While it would be better if our country was less religiously locked in, I'm pretty sure if it was the quakers that rose to prevalence we'd be way better off, even if only from the "not my job to enforce your morality" part.
Yup. As a native New Englander, I can see the entire region south of the St. Lawrence waterway and south down the eastern seaboard to Philadelphia falling under the name Atlantic Arcadia and it's tied together by a North Atlantic marine maritime culture of transatlantic trade and languages.
Meh, New England alone is 15 million people. I would much rather see them become independent republics than having to integrate millions of Americans into Canada. Then we can create a North American Union with Schengen and shared international common institutions. Make our own EU with blackjack and hookers.
This kind of map really shows how much people use alternate history to think through fears and ‘what ifs.’ Even when it’s exaggerated, it’s interesting as a reflection of the moment more than a prediction.
The territories in Canada still get to vote and be represented, you would likely become a province because of your population.
Well I will take that back I do not think you would get a vote if you are occupied, but keep your neighbours believing in the colour red. Canada like the rest of the democratic world uses red to think of liberals.
I'm aware that the Treaty of Hidalgo formalised and legalised the US annexation of Texas and New Mexico, but the US Southwest was literally stolen, to begin with, from Mexico.
Fuck off with that flag for California, we have dozens of them from the bear flag revolt that could be used assuming we don't just stick with the one we've been using since the revolt and they go with the worst one. I know it's source and it was quiet literally lost outside of a photo because it was tossed in the trash.
Ya know I get the joke that your trying to make but it doesn't really have bite when you know about the old Californian line star flags. Usually a sole star on the center of a flag with a lot of color variations, though most were a red star on a white base, it's the California equivalent of shitty bedsheet state flags.
No, just like living in the American sector didn't make you America, you where (West) German.
Considering you are in the east, I recommend getting into Ossi (East German) cooking:
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I'm Mexican, so, I'm gonna be bold and admit our cuisine is heaven. No offense intended, this looks like food for mere survival.
None taken, this is specifically east german food, that was universally known because it was often served in schools and canteens.
We also have better food here, but I still think milk noodles are great.
Wellll, the Michigan Upper Peninsula does use “eh” mostly properly, so they’re partway there, but the local specialty seems to be prisons, so we may need some realignment for them first.
I for one welcome our new overlords from the great white north! As an oregonian I’m just happy to keep the MLS I-5 cascadia cup rivalry going… even if their bacon sucks!
"fun" fact: we could never actually glass the earth, but with the success of disarmament work we're at the point where, with perfect geometry, ideal yields, and a generous definition of "glass" the biggest country we could do that to is Luxembourg.
The moral of the story: strategic arms reduction treaties work, they're just very slow.
Math.
Our typical warhead (100kt) leaves a 200m radius crater if used to maximize the crater size. (Experiment in using nukes for mining and terrain shaping).
We have less than 6000. 6000 π (0.2 km)^2^ ~ 6000(0.125km^2^ ) ~ 754km^2^ < 2,586 km^2^.
Nukes are dangerous because (other than the obvious) of what they do to the air, not the ground.
Unfortunately for you, the US-Russia-China alliance would win easily
EDIT: My bad, this was an oversimplified and sensationalist statement. I've elaborated in the comment below. I didn't mean to imply these entities actually like each other
Spheres of influence. "The western hemisphere is ours"
The US takes "the western hemisphere", Russia takes Europe, China takes Asia
Everyone who downvoted is ignorant of this or has a different definition of alliance. Alliances are not always officially stated
Not to mention China's support, through bots and trolls on social media, for far-right politicians in Europe, including the recently cancelled and re-held Romanian presidential election where Calin Georgescu, some random MAGA-aligned Romanian politician essentially went #1 on TikTok and TikTok "didn't notice"
Also, Russia and China are allies and the US and Russia are allies
China does not support Ukraine. The US does not support Ukraine. China. Is. Not. Our. Friend. Even the map we're looking at implies China is not on the EU/Mexico/Canada side.
The more I look at those downvotes the more perplexed I am. I guess I was too literal and sensationalist in my initial statement and people reacted to that. Good for them.
EDIT: I hope I'm not coming off as a ranting asshole. Needless to say, my gears have been ground
no shot, the US is actually kinda fucked if they get in a serious international war. There'd be a huge fifth column that could get supplied through Canada and Mexico
Would be a shame to pass up on such a good opportunity for California hoisting this flag.
Good luck Europe lmao
Fuck no. As an European we don't want any of this shit. Americans can handle their own mess.
Well to be fair they did come in to rescue us after Hitlers mess. I'm not against saving Americans from the mess they created. Not sure if i would risk my life, but the ice Gestapo is making me wonder if that would be the humane thing to do. But no judgement from my part, i totally get your fuck-them attitude.
They came and saved us from Hitler once they were under attack themselves, they didn't just jump in immediately. Hitler was quite popular in certain circles in the US before they joined the war. But yeah they did help Europe and the soldiers that gave their life for that are heroes.
On another note, the Soviet Union also helped fight against Hitler as much as the Allies.
Both true, i'd prefer if we didn't have to jump in and the US sorts itself out without foreign intervention. But when i see these razzias against people of colour or read stories from the lgbtq, I cannot think it's their problem.
shouldnt lgbtq+ issues in the EU be resolved first by the EU?
edit: i was referencing the fact that half of the voting population of an EU country would rather voting for someone who said that They™ are putting microchips in soda and that someone who allied with nazi germany and was responsible for the deaths of, according to wikipedia, at least a quarter of a million jews was a national hero than for someone who said she was going to make same sex civil unions legal
if they cant ensure that people from one of their countries doesnt vote for someone who said loved nazis and fascists, how can they make sure that a country from another continent wont support someone who requires you knowing the definition of fascism to say he is one
Sure, but according to that logic Europe would speak german because the us was still resolving racism issues in the us first.
was the purpose of the USA intervention during the war solving racism in the EU?
if it was, they failed
The soviets after the nazis attacked them lol.
the soviets two years after signing an agreement that parted up europe between hitler and stalin.
The Soviets after England and France not wanting to have an alliance against the Nazis (that was the reason of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact).
Hitler was still popular in the US with more people than most would guess even after the war. Racism is deeply ingrained into the US state, has been from the very start (obviously) and never left.
Don't worry, there's no way that the US wouldn't make it Europe's problem if he started invading other nations.
He could only invade Mexico or South America without triggering article 5. Since Canada and Greenland (through Denmark) are both NATO members if he messes with them then its immediately a good chunk of Europe's problem. There's also French Guiana in South America and some islands in the carribean I forgot when I started typing that would also trigger article 5.
US was hesitate to join yet another european squabble. The horrors of WW1 was still fresh in people's minds. Also, the us wasnt sitting on their hands as it was becoming inevitable US would be forced to join. The US probably would had declared war on germany in 1942 even if japan never attacked.
The same one that was allied with hitler and invaded poland side by side? We're just lucky hitler was a dumbass and back stabbed them.
Newsflash, Hitler was quite popular in countries all across Europe before he invaded those people's countries. Antisemitism has always been a reoccurring issue in Europe and the US, with many people and governments supporting the Nazi's opinion about Jews. Most people supported a nonconfrontational policy of letting Germany do their own thing so long as they didn't come after them...and then Germany came after them. The idea that Hitler's popularity was limited to any one country is whitewashing of history to hide the fact that he had the implicit support of many in Europe who either agreed with him or simply didn't want to start another Great War. It's the same reason that the foundation and recognition of Israel as a country had widespread support across Europe and the US from many antisemitic groups/people in power. They saw it as a perfect solution to get rid of Jews in Europe. They were even volunteering to deport themselves to the desert!
That's not to say that the US is some knight in shining armor goody two shoes or something. The US is the only other country to have held Nazi rallies, and almost joined the war on the other side once or twice. But the US was also largely focused on a policy of isolationism and wanted to stay out of a war in Europe. The US also spent years funding England during the early part of the war, who first used that money to send additional funds to France alongside that which they already were, and then used that money themselves when they actively joined the war. And the US provided all kinds of military equipment to the Allies before entering the war through the Lend-Lease program. The general opinion that I see is that the US was gearing up to officially enter the war when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, and that that had the effect of an inciting incident which caused any pro-isolationist groups within the country to change their position and accelerated the US's timetable rather than being the reason that the US got involved at all.
Like fuck they did. The U.S. came in at the butt end after Russia sent millions of their people into the meat grinder.
People love to give the U.S. a clap on the back, but in reality they're the slacker who did fuck all during the group project, and then came in at the very tail-end of the presentation, subsequently getting all the acknowledgement for it.
Churchill is hailed as a hero when he fucking starved millions of Indians, and withheld that information from their families he forced to the front, and who the fuck this day and age thanks the Indians for their contribution in saving Europe's ass?
No, no, no. The map has been made. No take backsies.
Chicago is a decent get. Not sure if worth the rest of Illinois though.
If anything, the quality of education would improve.
Well it can’t get much worse
Honestly yeah that part made me lol
Can't we pay mexico, canada or venezuela to take that part ?
I don’t think even god could afford the cost of taking in and rehabilitating the former confederacy
Can we trade Mex for EU? I'm of Mex heritage, but I'd rather be ran by the EU, personally.
Mexico's biggest problem is America. And Europe better stay the fuck away, we have brought nothing but horror to Mexico. Or to the Americas as such, honestly.
What year is it in your head? 1825?
Mexico's problems largely boil down to drug trafficking to America for American dollars and fuelled by American weapons flowing into the country. This is highly contemporary.
The history of Mexico is the history of Europeans entering into a place where they had no business at all and killing and destroying everything because they fucking suck. That was way before 1825, but I see no reason to forget about it.
Yeah no we’d rather not. I say we give that part to Venezuela as reparations.
We’ll have the northeast. You know, New England, New Netherlands, New Sweden
I don’t think anyone would want Florida, can we just sink it?
[Climate change]: “Workin’ on it!”
Let nature reclaim it, and the rest of the gulf coast. Let it return to mangrove forests and be less absolutely ratfucked by hurricanes.
Give it back to Spain.
Why would they accept? Seriously. When you drive in there is a billboard reminding you not to get drunk and have sex with your daughter.
Like that is a for real thing to remind people of.
G.T.F.O..
Circa 2010
Oh. My. Fucking. God!
that is... jesus christ on a motherfucking cracker, what is wrong with southerners?
That's nbd, those are all over the south...
Also, getting is an drunk never excuse
Getting is an drunk never excuse.
Well, by now you've seen the creepy SOB.
It's fucking real and fucking big, towering over the road at the GA boarder.
Sink, Florida, Sink!
🇲🇽 MAKE TEXAS MEXICO AGAIN 🇲🇽
Europe doesn’t want any of it. We had it before and look at the mess that come of it.
Canada can have it
We definitely don't want Florida
Then hand it over to Cuba.
This scene was so ahead of its time
There's a lot to love about Florida, especially once you get rid of the Floridians.
For real, people keep forgetting where the USA comes from...
No, it was mainly populated by hosers who didn't want to pay taxes.
Funny enough those weirdos were welcomed in rather generously by the Netherlands who wanted to provide refuge.
But the fact that they were so open and not prejudiced enough disgusted the Quakers who tried desperately to shame them with Preaching Tours™ until the Quakers decided to leave entirely.
They were always gonna be like this.
You may be conflating the quakers with a different religious group.
While still a religious group, the quakers are largely one of the most accepting. They were initially given trouble by the Dutch. Their numbers have never really been high enough to have the type of social sway that you're thinking.
Maybe you're thinking the puritans or pilgrims? They're the ones who kinda took over. Shame, inherent sin and all that.
The quakers are the pacifist abolitionists who think church should be a group of people quietly thinking in someone's home until someone feels moved to share an idea.
While it would be better if our country was less religiously locked in, I'm pretty sure if it was the quakers that rose to prevalence we'd be way better off, even if only from the "not my job to enforce your morality" part.
I like that California was granted independence but Hawaii just declared it
It's pretty sad what happened to Hawaii. They really want nothing to do with the US if you strip away everything else.
Everyone should look up the fucked up stuff Mark Fuckerberg is doing over there.
This was definitely made by someone from California.
Imagine thinking California wouldn't immediately reconqeuor the Mountain West.
That state is a bubbling caldron of American fascism. It's going full Imperial Japan the moment DC losses the leash.
Literally the home base of techno fascism.
The hopeful bit is ignoring the fact that like a solid quarter to a third of us military might is stationed in and around California.
Nah, NCR.
National Capital Region
Looks like entire landmass of baja was destroyed in the conflict
The North American continent sheds it's Baja when threatened, but it regrows after a while.
Lol, got a good chuckle out of me there
China looking at Hawaii: This is mine.
No need to fight. Commercial partners is good enough and has all the benefits without the dead count.
The People's Republic of the Pacific Islands, sibling to DPRK
The entire Florida Oblast should be returned to nature.
Please just give me this, name it the New California Republic.
Honestly, I'm ok with this
Yup. As a native New Englander, I can see the entire region south of the St. Lawrence waterway and south down the eastern seaboard to Philadelphia falling under the name Atlantic Arcadia and it's tied together by a North Atlantic marine maritime culture of transatlantic trade and languages.
Europe gets Florida?
Rough trade lmao
Yeah, no thanks. Let Cuba have that.
It would be ironic that a place full of Cuban immigrants that left Cuba ended up in a Cuban territory.
Florida, yes. Floridians... we'll see.
Atlanta can join Eurovision wooooo
New Orleans will go back to speaking French.
Mexico reclaiming its land from 1846: feelsgoodman.jpg
I would be so happy if 2036 looked like this.
the good ending.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
When I got this assignment I was hoping there'd be more gambling.
Meh, New England alone is 15 million people. I would much rather see them become independent republics than having to integrate millions of Americans into Canada. Then we can create a North American Union with Schengen and shared international common institutions. Make our own EU with blackjack and hookers.
Based and North American Union pilled
We can still be united, despite everything. See the public support of Luigi as an example.
This kind of map really shows how much people use alternate history to think through fears and ‘what ifs.’ Even when it’s exaggerated, it’s interesting as a reflection of the moment more than a prediction.
It's great fodder for future creative works.
Much like most post apocalyptic works, it let us theory craft how things could be different
As a Wisconsinite, I have 3 thoughts:
The territories in Canada still get to vote and be represented, you would likely become a province because of your population. Well I will take that back I do not think you would get a vote if you are occupied, but keep your neighbours believing in the colour red. Canada like the rest of the democratic world uses red to think of liberals.
I'm aware that the Treaty of Hidalgo formalised and legalised the US annexation of Texas and New Mexico, but the US Southwest was literally stolen, to begin with, from Mexico.
Time for reconquista!
Fuck off with that flag for California, we have dozens of them from the bear flag revolt that could be used assuming we don't just stick with the one we've been using since the revolt and they go with the worst one. I know it's source and it was quiet literally lost outside of a photo because it was tossed in the trash.
The two-headed bear was right there
Even the two bears high fiving would be better than this bastardized lone star variant.
Texafornia
Ya know I get the joke that your trying to make but it doesn't really have bite when you know about the old Californian line star flags. Usually a sole star on the center of a flag with a lot of color variations, though most were a red star on a white base, it's the California equivalent of shitty bedsheet state flags.
Mexico gets the short end of the stick as usual.
I mean Texas and New Mexico? That's a fuck ton of oil.
I want to see Mexican Landowners taking advantage of Midwestern white people so badly
What an odd thing to say
I'm an odd fella, I just think turnabout is fair play.
As a New Yorker I would love an independent socialist Republic :3
Quite fitting actually, since NYC just elected a Democratic Socialist to lead
Democratic socialism is not the same as socialism. One is center-left and the other is left.
Woo~ I get to live in Europe!
No. You get to live in the EU. The difference is geographical.
No, just like living in the American sector didn't make you America, you where (West) German.
Considering you are in the east, I recommend getting into Ossi (East German) cooking:
Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I'm Mexican, so, I'm gonna be bold and admit our cuisine is heaven. No offense intended, this looks like food for mere survival.
None taken, this is specifically east german food, that was universally known because it was often served in schools and canteens.
We also have better food here, but I still think milk noodles are great.
Florida here - either give us to Mexico or sink us into the ocean
Don't worry, we'll go with the second choice
grabs pool floaty and a fruity drink
California is joining Denmark they paid for it with healthcare and pastries
Honestly, Cascadia would be so great. The PNW is gorgeous, and we’d fit in with Canada (at least the heavy population centers).
Where is china
There’s a lot of garbage in that Eurozone
Yell yeah I get to be canadian!
Oh come on, Canada, you can do better than that.
I actively welcome this, I’d be an EU citizen!
no china?
This is after 3, not 4
This would work, I could drive a little to get get poutine and travel around Europe on unrestricted visas.
United States of Puerto Rico
Feel bad for the Europeans.
Florida is America's Israel. It will remain a hold out for decades, before rapidly metastasizing into the Gulf Coast and Appalachians
It's either that* *or flood plains :) edit: a word or two
Yes please.
I support this. No notes.
No, California becomes part of Denmark
Can IL be included with Canada too?
Yes
Aliette De Bodart, The cycle of Xuxa (alternative history of North America).
I think we should gift Florida to Cuba in return for a un backed and approved constitution rework/rewrite
If the US loses WWIII the only thing left will be a little bit of remote wilderness not suited for anything but trying to hide.
Fuck yeah cascadia also we're Canadian!
Hey neighbor!! I'm stocking up on Tim Horton's gift cards in preparation.
Guess I better start learning Spanish, or move east and learn German.
Love the fact that Washington just turns Canada doping ww3 😂
New England and the Pacific Northwest are the most "Canadian" parts of America.
Wellll, the Michigan Upper Peninsula does use “eh” mostly properly, so they’re partway there, but the local specialty seems to be prisons, so we may need some realignment for them first.
If you’re going to take Wisconsin and Michigan, you should get Chicago too, at the very least
Yes, please.
The EU and particularly Mexico drew a short stick here
At least Mexico gets oil. All the EU gets is Disneyland.
The EU already has a Disneyland (in Paris); they'd be getting Disney World, which is honestly way cooler
It's an occupation zone. We fully intend on giving it back once we brought them democracy.
I would not hoist the bible belt on Mexico. They don't deserve that.
Surely you mean foist not hoist.
You forgot about China zone.
Ew fuck CCP.
Also are they really sending their only-children to war lmao? Imagine the outrage if the parenta lose their only child, their bloodline would be over.
I dunno. But China will be very glad to get a piece of the USA even by the cost of some lives.
That's... optimistic. The notion that China wouldn't get the biggest slice is downright ridiculous.
Europe: "Nice, let's relaunch this well organized cane sugar and cotton business"
This is fine by me. I'm right on the EU side of the EU and Canada border, so I've got some good options.
Florida should join Australia.
Australia could send all their criminals there.
Ehhh. Florida Man would eat their faces off!
Hey man fuck you.
California Republic already has a flag, but we can replace the red star with a maple leaf.
I think this would be a new California republic.... Which coincidentally also has a flag
Reunite Alta and Baja Californias? ¡Andelé pues! Tamales para todos.
I like this better. We’re part of Canada! Wooo!
I'm cool with where PA sits. Maybe the Eagles will have better luck in the CFL.
college humor predicted this map.
What happens to the Toledo strip? Will we side with the EU or Canada?
EU. Didn't be thinking you can just slide in with your Ohio garbage.
(Just kidding.... Ohio is ok.)
((Just kidding... As a lifelong resident of SE Michigan, Ohio can suck it. 😄))
Manhattan would like a word. Independent also?
Fuck PR, Guam and the USVI I guess.
Obviously the colonial possessions were freed
The restaurants in St Louis, MO would be insane.
Good luck with the fallout
What happened to Mexico?
Dafuq happened to Baja California‽
it got flooded during the war.
I for one welcome our new overlords from the great white north! As an oregonian I’m just happy to keep the MLS I-5 cascadia cup rivalry going… even if their bacon sucks!
¡Viva Mexico!
I thought California would be part of Denmark.
Nothing for Greenland?
Can't believe I'm saying this, but maybe I'll move to Florida . . .
So does Canada get Alaska or Russia?
Sounds good overall, but I'm glad I don't live in the area occupied by Mexico.
The entirety of north and south america are just european occupation zones already.
I'm good with this.
Where Alaska and Hawaii and Puerto Rico and guam
Alaska and Hawaii are in there. PR and Guam presumably independent.
I’m so blind wtf
Really? Why? Plenty of Europeans live in a California-like climate, and plenty of them vacation in southern Europe expressly to enjoy such a climate.
oh can ada
What a load of garbage. The surface of the earth is turned to glass before we lose a single major city. Lose lose for everyone.
"fun" fact: we could never actually glass the earth, but with the success of disarmament work we're at the point where, with perfect geometry, ideal yields, and a generous definition of "glass" the biggest country we could do that to is Luxembourg.
The moral of the story: strategic arms reduction treaties work, they're just very slow.
I'm not sure about that fact, there are thousands of active warheads. Do you have a source?
Math.
Our typical warhead (100kt) leaves a 200m radius crater if used to maximize the crater size. (Experiment in using nukes for mining and terrain shaping). We have less than 6000. 6000 π (0.2 km)^2^ ~ 6000(0.125km^2^ ) ~ 754km^2^ < 2,586 km^2^.
Nukes are dangerous because (other than the obvious) of what they do to the air, not the ground.
I understand that; the expression isn't literal; and we never had enough nukes to glass the surface of earth regardless of arms reduction treaties.
You'd be surprised how many people don't. It's a good fun fact, and I stand by supporting arms reduction regardless. :)
Don't tease me with a quick, painless death.
You should be so lucky
Unfortunately for you, the US-Russia-China alliance would win easily
EDIT: My bad, this was an oversimplified and sensationalist statement. I've elaborated in the comment below. I didn't mean to imply these entities actually like each other
Why on earth do you think the US would ally with China?
Spheres of influence. "The western hemisphere is ours"
The US takes "the western hemisphere", Russia takes Europe, China takes Asia
Everyone who downvoted is ignorant of this or has a different definition of alliance. Alliances are not always officially stated
Not to mention China's support, through bots and trolls on social media, for far-right politicians in Europe, including the recently cancelled and re-held Romanian presidential election where Calin Georgescu, some random MAGA-aligned Romanian politician essentially went #1 on TikTok and TikTok "didn't notice"
Also, Russia and China are allies and the US and Russia are allies
China does not support Ukraine. The US does not support Ukraine. China. Is. Not. Our. Friend. Even the map we're looking at implies China is not on the EU/Mexico/Canada side.
The more I look at those downvotes the more perplexed I am. I guess I was too literal and sensationalist in my initial statement and people reacted to that. Good for them.
EDIT: I hope I'm not coming off as a ranting asshole. Needless to say, my gears have been ground
You went and pissed on their hypothetical where the US is weak. Of course they are to downvote you. They just wanted a lil circlejerk.
no shot, the US is actually kinda fucked if they get in a serious international war. There'd be a huge fifth column that could get supplied through Canada and Mexico