I can 100% believe it, I've seen people who look like that who were that young as well. Pretty much all across that age range, around the time of puberty. But she definitely doesn't look older than 18, and I guess being that age or older would make her look unappealing to him.
They think education is flawed. It's part of the GOP indoctrination. What you're saying is morbidly comical, but the real reason is how the Right regard education.
It's crazy. They literally treat a lack of knowledge like a badge of honor. They genuinely believe they deserve a gold star for proactively avoiding knowing shit. It's real. It's wild.
My physics professor was the most physics professor looking physics professor the world has ever produced. He was definitely not giving out fashion tips.
Unless of course you are a fan of ugly brown woollen affairs and tweed jackets with patches on the elbows.
My physics professor was Italian and a very snappy dresser. Although, he also wore shorts and soccer jerseys some days.
Very funny guy and could do trig out to several decimal places in his head. He was one of those rare professors that was doing research but still a great teacher. He was responsible for making math 'click' for me and helped me realize the joy of math.
could do trig out to several decimal places in his head
He's got to have memorised that before class, or has memorised a bunch of common angles. The formula I remember using for them is a mess and doesn't converge quickly.
My physics prof wore white socks with soccer ball-patterned slide on sandals. Normal business casual other than that, unless you count hair that hadn’t been bruised in a decade. Year round even in snow. And rode his bike to campus like that daily. Very fun dude.
My Physics professors literally wore pocket protectors, with pens in them. They were also both ultra-marathoners which is surprisingly common among that species.
After 2 years of no longer being completely within the social circle of and under the financial and physical control of Christian Nationalists / Super Fundies.
As a man who currently plans to marry a woman that chooses to dress very modestly and doesn't like tattoos, that woman looks great and beauty comes in many forms. Don't be a fool and enjoy all beauty. The tree's, the human's, the music's. Life is better if you allow yourself to enjoy "things" for their kind of beauty and not complain about the lack of some other kind.
I was playing disc golf by myself once and fell in with a group of guys with shaved heads who were playing the same course. They seemed nice and it took me a couple of holes to realize that they all had swastika tattoos on the sides of their heads. Fortunately I had rigged up my phone to make the incoming call sound when I double-tapped a side button and I was able to nope the fuck out of there.
The confidence. I love people who are weird because one. they have confidence to be whatever they want to be. Two. Have interests that either align with mine, or have a passion that makes me interested in them as well.
Passion and confidence, regardless of what it's for is extremely attractive.
But there are studies that say tattooing provides women and particularly survivors of sexual trauma a sense of ownership and authority over their bodies.
Unfortunately there are also studies that say that outside of the EU, many tattoo inks contain lead, cadmium, arsenic, and carcinogens.
But there are studies that say tattooing provides women and particularly survivors of sexual trauma a sense of ownership and authority over their bodies.
Thank you. I was wondering what I was missing when thinking all this through. I don't have any myself, but have wondered about the range of motivations for folks that get more than one. I figured it was at least tribal and wealth (expensive, can't be stolen) expression. Body modification as a way to exercise autonomy and agency - that absolutely tracks with folks I've met.
Imagine if Americans spent as much effort wanting a better life for everyone as they do keeping that one transgeder person from playing in sports... Y'all would be a utopia.
I can guarantee you repelling guys like him is absolutely a contributing factor to the decision to get tattoos and piercings. Funny how he can't comprehend he's the reason why.
the appeal she lost was that the tats and piercings make it abundantly clear she's over 18, and college attendance shows she's not going to be easy to manipulate and take advantage of. you know. because she's an educated adult. that's the big turn off. trust me. that's ALWAYS the turn off. this guy would say all sorts of nasty stuff about her body if the average 14 year old had tats and piecings.
I, personally, have never found facial tattoos and piercings to be attractive. Especially lip and tongue piercings, all I can think about is them hitting my teeth. Also idgaf what anyone says, tongue piercings do not help with pleasure unless you were maimed as a child.
That being said I also don't believe it makes sense to tell others what they can and can't do with their body. I also don't assume that anyone customizes themselves for my benefit. So I guess my biggest question is, do people really give that much of a fuck about tattoos and piercings beyond personal preference?
That being said I also don’t believe it makes sense to tell others what they can and can’t do with their body.
To be fair, the OP is not actually doing that, "should we ban it" is obviously a joke. He's just saying it's unattractive. Similar comments have been made about all kinds of people/aesthetics with far more vitriol than the OP (a random example I witnessed personally some years back was someone saying men under 6' tall should kill themselves, and getting plenty of agreement within their own bubble (was on Tumblr, iirc)).
The OP is honestly a 'whatever' post to me, doesn't move the needle at all, and honestly doesn't deserve to be engaged with at all. And the response is just an extremely basic 'they don't like you either' that's just as cringy as the OP imo, if you're looking at both of them without bias toward either point of view.
Mood. My local tattoo shop has $40 days where you can pick a premade tattoo. I have a few in different areas. But I really can't afford sleeves or a chest tattoo. The only tattoo I paid full price was for $80 and its a Capricorn on my wrist
I have a change jar that I put my coins in and, unless I decided on something completely stupid that'll cost me >$1000, it usually has enough for a nice tattoo by the end of the year.
Is that many tattoos to my taste? Not totally. But its not her job to be to my taste, or his taste, or anyone's taste. That doesn't make her not gorgeous.
Is it though? It seems to me that at least part of the point is that the conservative appears to take it as read that everyone would find the image on the right less appealing when that's not at all true. The fact that this is wrong is part of the stupidity on display, and bears pointing out.
Pointing out to who? For what purpose? Why do they unanimously prefer the picture on the left to begin with?
Do you think the person on the right needs to be told they're sexually desirable? Where do you think this picture came from originally?
Can we talk about the larger themes without talking about personal preferences?
Because they're telling on themselves and it's going over your head.
*Pointing out to the members of this internet forum.
*For the purpose of laughing at the conservative and their strange values.
*They prefer the picture on the left because it's more traditional, and they are afraid of the one on the right.
*No, and I'm assuming they are not present in this thread so telling them they're desirable was obviously never the point.
*I think the picture came from social media.
*Yes we can talk about larger themes, but we needn't limit ourselves to that.
*No they aren't, and no it isn't. It's you that's missing the point.
Thats right no one is allowed to see a woman and decide if they are pleasing to the eye. That is savage and extremely off putting to be allowed to have that choice. /s
It certainly is when the discussion should be about the fucking pedos leading these shit stains. Context m8.
They like little innocent malleable girls, so when you see the juxtaposition and decide to offer your dicks 2 cents, yeah it's a gross red flag that no one needs to hear. Don't understand why you'd feel the need to mention it in the first place? If you work it out let me know.
I hate this so much. This is objectification dialed up to 11. This young woman has value, but only her appearance and only if she dresses and acts how most conservatives want. 🤮 And they all get a say in how she presents herself!
There's no accounting for taste, but I do find the appearance in the right side picture to be rather off-putting.
That said, it's not a judgemental call and I don't really give a shit what people do with their own bodies. She isn't doing it for travelwithmrmichael, or me, or whoever else might be commenting on it.
Also regardless of one’s thoughts on the look, I find it hard to believe 18 years of loving parents had no influence on the outcome. She’s not a totally new brain/person after two years.
Edit: And also how does this guy explain all the samples of women that didn’t get tattoos after going to college? Why am I even engaging with this content like he’s made some innocent statistics error.
Tattoos are so incredibly common now (and have been since the '90s) that it's hard to imagine even the parents of a 20-year-old not having some themselves.
My only issue with that much ink at an early age is how you change as a person during the years from 18-28.
How I was at 20 was pretty different from me at 28 and very different from me 38.
My take pretty much anything is if I don't have to do anything, then do whatever the fuck you want as long as there is content and not harmful to other people.
I don't know a single woman who would have sex with a conservative unless they were being raped, which is part of conservative culture, so not entirely unlikely.
Honestly it just looks like every photo from the early 2010s. Digital cameras weren't really very good but we use them anyway and as a result all photos are blurry and soft. It makes everyone look miserable.
First girl looks like an obedient, probably rather boring person. Second girl looks like she's self-confident, likes to party and have fun, is open-minded and great fun to be with.
Looks can be deceiving, but I would be drawn to the tattooed girl if looks were my only criteria to go by.
That's a whole lot of assumptions to make based on a couple of still images with no context, I think. "Obedient" about the first image especially weirded me out, I have to say.
likes to party and have fun
I always laugh at 'likes to have fun'. It's a completely meaningless phrase, since "fun" is subjectively defined. Boils down to "likes to do stuff they like".
self-confident
But aren't a large number of tattoos/piercings more correlated with low self-esteem?
ITT: People missing the point and evaluating the relative attractiveness of the two images versus acknowledging the objectification and subjugation of women as a problem.
We all objectify all day and as long as you do it in your head and know how to act and react normal, it's fine. Whatever anyone does in their head is fine as long as it stays there.
Anytime I hear someone say that they would never objectify anyone I feel this huge "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" kind of thing. We've all looked at someone else and thought "habbah habbah.
Just, again, keep it to yourself.
Some people like the girl without the tattoos on the left, others like the girl with the tattoos in the right. So? Just let her decide for herself and find someone else if you don't like it
Agreed, thinking is not a crime. Replying to a mysogenist's rant with, "Well he's not wrong" is objectively mysogeny. Which is also not a crime, but we can do better.
when your whole public assessment of others is explaining your ability to be sexually attracted to them, then yes. really gotta notice your publicly talking about someone for a lot of them to happen.
Not really. Sexual attraction is merely something you feel. Objectification is when you let that dominate your view of someone. When you reduce them to nothing but a sexual object. You can feel sexual attraction without it being primary factor in how you see someone.
Also a part of age/who is taking the picture (second is a selfie, first is not). Her mouth is tight in the second picture, 'forced' smile. See a lot of pain in her tattoos as well.
It is good when people find their style. She certainly expresses hers! I imagine she may have become a tattoo artist herself, not many jobs options with such visible tats.
Yes, the guide is Volume 2, after what you've been clearly reading in Volume 1: How to be unappealing as a white man in every way imaginable and then some.
It also appears that the photo in his complaining post has been edited.
I cannot imagine being such a monumental twerp that I would feel the need to express this opinion online even if I shared it. Who is he signalling for?
That spider tattoo is awesome! I want to get one like the spider on the left. Probably on my arm though because I'm squeamish about being poked on the neck.
BELL. Kirsten Bell. After a moment of confusion ("I could have sworn the comment said Dunst..."), I was so happy it was Bell. I don't know how I never saw this a decade and a half ago, but GOD that was funny. Low key one of my favorite actors in Hollywood.
Recently did a Good Place re-watch, I think I'll be happy to re-watch that show every couple years for the rest of my life. Perfect cast, well thought out from the onset with no "warmup" period like some TV comedies struggling to get their footing. Hysterical, heartfelt, and somehow also a tear jerker at times.
It's a very effective strategy, because speaking as a queer woman, I would see the person on the right and think "personal experience tells me this person might belong to the alphabet mafia, so perhaps I could buy her a drink"
As if the guys who make these kind of comments wouldn't instantly fall head over heels for literally any woman who looks in their general direction without complete disgust.
"Loving" as in "if you so much as think about self-determination, you'll get guilt-tripped, emotionally manipulated and berated for defying God's plan"? Because those conditions tend to produce the type of person that doesn't act up as a teen, but once they reach adulthood and taste freedom, they go all out, with mixed results. Tats and piercings certainly aren't the worst outcome.
My wife probably would not care but as an avid photographer, yeah, number two would make awesome photos and prints. But if I was much much younger, I think either look would be attractive.
I like those memes showing photos of grampa in 2060 talking about their Nintendo.
Funnily enough I like tattoos but not piercings. Specifically septum piercings. As a result I'm lumped in with these ultra conservative weirdos and regularly get called a pedophile for not liking them.
im against banning things like this bc i enjoy freedom, but yeah i cant see how anyone could find her appealing with those lines on her face. (if were 100% talking appearance, not her personality ofc)
I bet what suddenly made her so unappealing to this guy was turning 18.
They hate consenting adults.
Seriously, she looks like she's about 16 in the first photo.
Via my daughters I've met some 12/13 year olds that looking like that image on the right.
I can 100% believe it, I've seen people who look like that who were that young as well. Pretty much all across that age range, around the time of puberty. But she definitely doesn't look older than 18, and I guess being that age or older would make her look unappealing to him.
Because he hates hags ^/s^
Saying "After 2 years with college professors" seems creepy to me, like he thinks college professors are supposed to take over the parents' role.
This person you see but have minimal interaction with a few times a week for 13 weeks really screams parental figure.
Probably still a more positive influence that these scums have on their kids.
Not far off for a lot of families unfortunately
That's probably the level of interaction OOP wants to have with his kids.
What was it? Every accusation is a confession?
They think education is flawed. It's part of the GOP indoctrination. What you're saying is morbidly comical, but the real reason is how the Right regard education.
It's crazy. They literally treat a lack of knowledge like a badge of honor. They genuinely believe they deserve a gold star for proactively avoiding knowing shit. It's real. It's wild.
Evangelist Christians genuinely believe that "earthly knowledge" is pointless once you are saved and are at the gates of heaven, so yes.
And wild that he thinks that the professors are giving out fashion advice rather than calculus and shit.
And it wasn't professors who taught her to respect and value people who weren't like her, it was just meeting them.
My physics professor was the most physics professor looking physics professor the world has ever produced. He was definitely not giving out fashion tips.
Unless of course you are a fan of ugly brown woollen affairs and tweed jackets with patches on the elbows.
My physics professor was Italian and a very snappy dresser. Although, he also wore shorts and soccer jerseys some days.
Very funny guy and could do trig out to several decimal places in his head. He was one of those rare professors that was doing research but still a great teacher. He was responsible for making math 'click' for me and helped me realize the joy of math.
He's got to have memorised that before class, or has memorised a bunch of common angles. The formula I remember using for them is a mess and doesn't converge quickly.
My physics prof wore white socks with soccer ball-patterned slide on sandals. Normal business casual other than that, unless you count hair that hadn’t been bruised in a decade. Year round even in snow. And rode his bike to campus like that daily. Very fun dude.
My Physics professors literally wore pocket protectors, with pens in them. They were also both ultra-marathoners which is surprisingly common among that species.
That's a bingo!
Its more like:
After 2 years of no longer being completely within the social circle of and under the financial and physical control of Christian Nationalists / Super Fundies.
In guessing this guy isn't super into adult women.
Weird women with tats are very appealing to me. I married one.
Plus her piercings are amazing
As a man who currently plans to marry a woman that chooses to dress very modestly and doesn't like tattoos, that woman looks great and beauty comes in many forms. Don't be a fool and enjoy all beauty. The tree's, the human's, the music's. Life is better if you allow yourself to enjoy "things" for their kind of beauty and not complain about the lack of some other kind.
Honestly, I don’t care either way.
Except like. If they have Nazis tats, that’s a hard nope, but otherwise… eh.
I was playing disc golf by myself once and fell in with a group of guys with shaved heads who were playing the same course. They seemed nice and it took me a couple of holes to realize that they all had swastika tattoos on the sides of their heads. Fortunately I had rigged up my phone to make the incoming call sound when I double-tapped a side button and I was able to nope the fuck out of there.
For me it’s less the beauty I’m attracted to and more the weirdness
Weird is Hot.
Maybe there is a kind of beauty in the weirdness that you like.
I wasn't talking about beauty as only visual beauty, but also the beauty of a kind soul. The beauty of the little flaws that make us.
The confidence. I love people who are weird because one. they have confidence to be whatever they want to be. Two. Have interests that either align with mine, or have a passion that makes me interested in them as well.
Passion and confidence, regardless of what it's for is extremely attractive.
I personally don’t see the appeal, though to each their own.
Conservatives chose to spread Mar a lago face. I do not respect their sense of aesthetics.
Meanwhile at Mar-a-lago
Bro... I just opened Lemmy. At least let me wake up first...
You are awake now though. This Zombie has jump scare potential
If you're not wide the fuck awake after seeing that, I'm not sure there's any hope left for you
Muppet looks like a damn muppet.
Oh god mark this as NSFL please
I'm conflicted, the brilliance and effort required for this answer is on par with how much I hate it.
Felt the same while creating it.
The person everyone forces you to be vs the person you are for yourself.
"Should we ban self-expression, or just limit it away from women?"
Okay buddy.
The first photo is literally just a human without changing their natural appereance...
Not getting tattoos, peircings, etc is just as ok as getting them.
Got called a "soyboy" by some right wing women, told them "good, I don't want to appeal to women who want to be regularly beaten by tgeir husbands".
And then everyone clapped.
Omedetou
I don't personally find tattoos appealing.
But there are studies that say tattooing provides women and particularly survivors of sexual trauma a sense of ownership and authority over their bodies.
Unfortunately there are also studies that say that outside of the EU, many tattoo inks contain lead, cadmium, arsenic, and carcinogens.
Yeah it’s that last bit that keeps me from getting any
Thank you. I was wondering what I was missing when thinking all this through. I don't have any myself, but have wondered about the range of motivations for folks that get more than one. I figured it was at least tribal and wealth (expensive, can't be stolen) expression. Body modification as a way to exercise autonomy and agency - that absolutely tracks with folks I've met.
I feel like my tattoos feel like armor I'm always wearing.
Americans love freedom until someone freely chooses to be comfortable in the way they look!!!
They want the freedom to judge and ridicule others and the freedom to dictate who gets rights... Not actual freedom for everyone.
I wish I could get people to care about anything that really matters (wages, health care, peace, etc) as they do about other people's appearances.
Imagine if Americans spent as much effort wanting a better life for everyone as they do keeping that one transgeder person from playing in sports... Y'all would be a utopia.
Exactly, or just not spending their whole day whining on other people's tweets about their personal style.
Bleak.
Or genitalia.
yes. the most sexually unnattractive demographic of all. checks notes porn stars
I can guarantee you repelling guys like him is absolutely a contributing factor to the decision to get tattoos and piercings. Funny how he can't comprehend he's the reason why.
So surely he thinks Kristi Noem is hot af yeah?
Fuckhead.
Notice how she looks self conscious in the first photo and confident and happy in the second.
Left image: trying to follow society's rigid standards
Right image: following your heart regardless of what others say
No wonder she looks happier - she's free!
The best part is: there must be a book that we can ban.
Reading is the problem. Reading leads to wokeism. Reading is now banned.
I hate to be that creep but the one on the right is a pornographic actress. Possible the one on the left is them but no idea
People jerk off, it's alright friend
No, no, please, creep on.
Awliiv is her name
Not finding anything on that name... :(
Edit: It's Awlivv, not Awliiv.
Dang, well done internet sleuth!
I was wondering if this was two different people
Waaaaay more attractive than whatever the fuck maga women are doing to themselves.
The girl in the OP post arguably overdid things a little, but it's her body, her choice
This right wing one just fell of a cliff straight into the abyss of uncanny valley nightmares. What the fuck is that even, it's not human
the appeal she lost was that the tats and piercings make it abundantly clear she's over 18, and college attendance shows she's not going to be easy to manipulate and take advantage of. you know. because she's an educated adult. that's the big turn off. trust me. that's ALWAYS the turn off. this guy would say all sorts of nasty stuff about her body if the average 14 year old had tats and piecings.
The original before and after is bad enough, but this is a photoshopped one with extra inflated cheeks.
I call it “going under the saw” instead of “going under the knife” because they look like Jigsaw.
I like the already perfect term Mar a Lago Face. Everyone knows exactly what that is without anyone having to explain it.
Definitely that too. Perfect term for it.
Nazi face
I like the already perfect term Mar a Lago Face. Everyone knows exactly what that is without anyone having to explain it.
MAGA men and women are unattractive whatever their looks.
As if every woman that looks like this is woke. Plenty of Neo Nazi look like this as well.
I, personally, have never found facial tattoos and piercings to be attractive. Especially lip and tongue piercings, all I can think about is them hitting my teeth. Also idgaf what anyone says, tongue piercings do not help with pleasure unless you were maimed as a child.
That being said I also don't believe it makes sense to tell others what they can and can't do with their body. I also don't assume that anyone customizes themselves for my benefit. So I guess my biggest question is, do people really give that much of a fuck about tattoos and piercings beyond personal preference?
To be fair, the OP is not actually doing that, "should we ban it" is obviously a joke. He's just saying it's unattractive. Similar comments have been made about all kinds of people/aesthetics with far more vitriol than the OP (a random example I witnessed personally some years back was someone saying men under 6' tall should kill themselves, and getting plenty of agreement within their own bubble (was on Tumblr, iirc)).
The OP is honestly a 'whatever' post to me, doesn't move the needle at all, and honestly doesn't deserve to be engaged with at all. And the response is just an extremely basic 'they don't like you either' that's just as cringy as the OP imo, if you're looking at both of them without bias toward either point of view.
Ok without extra context I'm pretty sure you're wrong about that being a joke, but my question stands.
Good for her.
How tge hell do people afford so many tattoos? I have 2 I've wanted for a long time and I still cant afford it.
Mood. My local tattoo shop has $40 days where you can pick a premade tattoo. I have a few in different areas. But I really can't afford sleeves or a chest tattoo. The only tattoo I paid full price was for $80 and its a Capricorn on my wrist
Have friends who are just starting out as tattoo artists who need the practice and will do the work super cheap.
Not saying not to do it but I am saying it's a good way to end up with crooked lines.
I have a change jar that I put my coins in and, unless I decided on something completely stupid that'll cost me >$1000, it usually has enough for a nice tattoo by the end of the year.
She's gorgeous.
Is that many tattoos to my taste? Not totally. But its not her job to be to my taste, or his taste, or anyone's taste. That doesn't make her not gorgeous.
I hate conservative men. Like WTF.
Women or any other person. I don't need to hear that you think she's gorgeous, it's missing all of the point.
Is it though? It seems to me that at least part of the point is that the conservative appears to take it as read that everyone would find the image on the right less appealing when that's not at all true. The fact that this is wrong is part of the stupidity on display, and bears pointing out.
Pointing out to who? For what purpose? Why do they unanimously prefer the picture on the left to begin with? Do you think the person on the right needs to be told they're sexually desirable? Where do you think this picture came from originally? Can we talk about the larger themes without talking about personal preferences? Because they're telling on themselves and it's going over your head.
*Pointing out to the members of this internet forum.
*For the purpose of laughing at the conservative and their strange values.
*They prefer the picture on the left because it's more traditional, and they are afraid of the one on the right.
*No, and I'm assuming they are not present in this thread so telling them they're desirable was obviously never the point.
*I think the picture came from social media.
*Yes we can talk about larger themes, but we needn't limit ourselves to that.
*No they aren't, and no it isn't. It's you that's missing the point.
Normalise not talking about women in terms of "your taste".
It's super off-putting
Thats right no one is allowed to see a woman and decide if they are pleasing to the eye. That is savage and extremely off putting to be allowed to have that choice. /s
Zzzz there's a difference in expressing how beautiful someone is and how fly they be
It certainly is when the discussion should be about the fucking pedos leading these shit stains. Context m8.
They like little innocent malleable girls, so when you see the juxtaposition and decide to offer your dicks 2 cents, yeah it's a gross red flag that no one needs to hear. Don't understand why you'd feel the need to mention it in the first place? If you work it out let me know.
Normalise not shaming and demonizing male sexuality.
It's super off-putting
That isn't male sexuality, it's a telling lack of critical thinking skills that's disappointing to see on Lemmy.
Now do it the other way with MAGA face.
I hate this so much. This is objectification dialed up to 11. This young woman has value, but only her appearance and only if she dresses and acts how most conservatives want. 🤮 And they all get a say in how she presents herself!
There's no accounting for taste, but I do find the appearance in the right side picture to be rather off-putting.
That said, it's not a judgemental call and I don't really give a shit what people do with their own bodies. She isn't doing it for travelwithmrmichael, or me, or whoever else might be commenting on it.
Also regardless of one’s thoughts on the look, I find it hard to believe 18 years of loving parents had no influence on the outcome. She’s not a totally new brain/person after two years.
Edit: And also how does this guy explain all the samples of women that didn’t get tattoos after going to college? Why am I even engaging with this content like he’s made some innocent statistics error.
Tattoos are so incredibly common now (and have been since the '90s) that it's hard to imagine even the parents of a 20-year-old not having some themselves.
My only issue with that much ink at an early age is how you change as a person during the years from 18-28. How I was at 20 was pretty different from me at 28 and very different from me 38.
My take pretty much anything is if I don't have to do anything, then do whatever the fuck you want as long as there is content and not harmful to other people.
We get it. MAGA likes them UP to 18yrs... then "eww"
Conservatives want all women to look fuckable cause that’s all women are to them
If "Mar-a-Lago face" is any indicator, they also want them to look interchangeable and non-human.
It's an intermediate step to the lizard person face that they're really looking for. 🦎
I mean tbf if I'm attracted to you you look fuckable. Whether that fits into their narrative or not doesn't really apply.
Uh, no, that's Biology. Yes, even you want your partner to be fuckable. I think you meant "docile". They want their women to look docile
I don't know a single woman who would have sex with a conservative unless they were being raped, which is part of conservative culture, so not entirely unlikely.
She looks dead inside in the first photo.
Honestly it just looks like every photo from the early 2010s. Digital cameras weren't really very good but we use them anyway and as a result all photos are blurry and soft. It makes everyone look miserable.
To me it looks like the same look in the eyes, just different directions
tbh my type is women with black hair, tattoos, piercings, stuff like that. so she's not unappealing to me in the slightest.
Cliché shitty man unhappy that women aren't tailored for his personal tastes.
Extra funny that he jokes about banning a book, as if his villain status wasn't already abundantly clear.
Maybe she'd be more appealing to that dipshit chud if she got the conservative woman ghoul creature plastic surgery package.
I can't even scroll through the post without screaming.
For anyone unfamiliar
https://www.thelist.com/1817157/what-is-mar-a-lago-face-who-has-tried-the-trend/
I thought conservatives love tattoos now that Jelly Roll has them and also worships trump
First girl looks like an obedient, probably rather boring person. Second girl looks like she's self-confident, likes to party and have fun, is open-minded and great fun to be with.
Looks can be deceiving, but I would be drawn to the tattooed girl if looks were my only criteria to go by.
That's a whole lot of assumptions to make based on a couple of still images with no context, I think. "Obedient" about the first image especially weirded me out, I have to say.
I always laugh at 'likes to have fun'. It's a completely meaningless phrase, since "fun" is subjectively defined. Boils down to "likes to do stuff they like".
But aren't a large number of tattoos/piercings more correlated with low self-esteem?
Of course it's all assumptions, as I explicitly wrote "if looks were my only criteria to go by."
Read first, then comment.
You criticize me for making assumptions, then you come up with an even bigger one...
ITT: People missing the point and evaluating the relative attractiveness of the two images versus acknowledging the objectification and subjugation of women as a problem.
Oh come on, be honest.
We all objectify all day and as long as you do it in your head and know how to act and react normal, it's fine. Whatever anyone does in their head is fine as long as it stays there.
Anytime I hear someone say that they would never objectify anyone I feel this huge "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" kind of thing. We've all looked at someone else and thought "habbah habbah.
Just, again, keep it to yourself.
Some people like the girl without the tattoos on the left, others like the girl with the tattoos in the right. So? Just let her decide for herself and find someone else if you don't like it
ITT: People not keeping it to themselves.
Agreed, thinking is not a crime. Replying to a mysogenist's rant with, "Well he's not wrong" is objectively mysogeny. Which is also not a crime, but we can do better.
Is feeling sexual attraction the same as objectifying?
when your whole public assessment of others is explaining your ability to be sexually attracted to them, then yes. really gotta notice your publicly talking about someone for a lot of them to happen.
Not really. Sexual attraction is merely something you feel. Objectification is when you let that dominate your view of someone. When you reduce them to nothing but a sexual object. You can feel sexual attraction without it being primary factor in how you see someone.
I dunno... Tattoos and piercings are kinda hot...
sounds like... sounds like your attracted to people over the age of 18... you monster.
Ain't no hate like Christian "love"
Look at the eyes, the one at the right looks more confident. Good for them.
Note the uncertain look in her eyes replaced with confidence in the 2nd photo.
...she's just looking off to the side.
Why are so many people acting like they can psychoanalyze people from a single still image of them? lol
Also a part of age/who is taking the picture (second is a selfie, first is not). Her mouth is tight in the second picture, 'forced' smile. See a lot of pain in her tattoos as well.
It is good when people find their style. She certainly expresses hers! I imagine she may have become a tattoo artist herself, not many jobs options with such visible tats.
It looked to me like she just got lip filler, but I kinda see what you're saying.
Might also be the case yeah, multiple truths! In any case she achieved her moment of fame on Lemmy/social media.
That's quite the look
wow
The photo has been edited. She actually looks better in real life.
There's a bit of an NSFW link at the top
Awoooga
Yes, the guide is Volume 2, after what you've been clearly reading in Volume 1: How to be unappealing as a white man in every way imaginable and then some.
Yeah, not everything is meant to be evaluated through personal attraction. People grow for themselves, not an audience.
https://canvasrebel.com/meet-olive-awlivv/
It also appears that the photo in his complaining post has been edited.
I cannot imagine being such a monumental twerp that I would feel the need to express this opinion online even if I shared it. Who is he signalling for?
RIP Gene
That spider tattoo is awesome! I want to get one like the spider on the left. Probably on my arm though because I'm squeamish about being poked on the neck.
Obligatory Kirsten
DunstBELL referencehttps://youtu.be/dKSwIuom5c8
Edit: Dont know how I could do that mistake
BELL. Kirsten Bell. After a moment of confusion ("I could have sworn the comment said Dunst..."), I was so happy it was Bell. I don't know how I never saw this a decade and a half ago, but GOD that was funny. Low key one of my favorite actors in Hollywood.
Recently did a Good Place re-watch, I think I'll be happy to re-watch that show every couple years for the rest of my life. Perfect cast, well thought out from the onset with no "warmup" period like some TV comedies struggling to get their footing. Hysterical, heartfelt, and somehow also a tear jerker at times.
Omg. Ofcourse! Total brainfart from me. Thanks for the heads up.
I also enjoy her acting, and her humor. Her Halloween picture a few years back dressed as Elsa (by her daughter) was gold.
"I don't see the problem. I also don't see the other problem."
The right one looks more appealing to me, I wish i could look like that lol
It's a very effective strategy, because speaking as a queer woman, I would see the person on the right and think "personal experience tells me this person might belong to the alphabet mafia, so perhaps I could buy her a drink"
As if the guys who make these kind of comments wouldn't instantly fall head over heels for literally any woman who looks in their general direction without complete disgust.
How do I upvote a post 10^20 times without bots?
"Loving" as in "if you so much as think about self-determination, you'll get guilt-tripped, emotionally manipulated and berated for defying God's plan"? Because those conditions tend to produce the type of person that doesn't act up as a teen, but once they reach adulthood and taste freedom, they go all out, with mixed results. Tats and piercings certainly aren't the worst outcome.
I like her over the nose thing. Its interesting. I wear glasses... Its giving me ideas LOL.
I never liked the over nose thing myself, but they're not being worn for me, so there's no reason for anyone who has them to give a shit.
That being said, her overall appearance in the second picture is much more appealing.
My wife probably would not care but as an avid photographer, yeah, number two would make awesome photos and prints. But if I was much much younger, I think either look would be attractive.
I like those memes showing photos of grampa in 2060 talking about their Nintendo.
Would hit it.
And by “it” I mean “that guy’s face.”
Banning books is so on point.
sounds like he found her boyfriend.
I mean the tattoos are definitely horrible but who cares. They're not hurting anyone.
I like piercings, but I don't care for tattoos. We all have our preferences that matter to no one but ourselves.
I am pretty sure this is a porn star on the right but I can't remember the name.
Someone else in the thread identified her, I can’t find it now.
Funnily enough I like tattoos but not piercings. Specifically septum piercings. As a result I'm lumped in with these ultra conservative weirdos and regularly get called a pedophile for not liking them.
Nuance is dead in the modern age.
im against banning things like this bc i enjoy freedom, but yeah i cant see how anyone could find her appealing with those lines on her face. (if were 100% talking appearance, not her personality ofc)
Who asked you for your opinion?
It's one thing you not finding it appealing, another you feeling the need to tell us, and yet ANOTHER that
Mate