Spyke
kyonshireply
piefed.social

It was a satire, but the wrong people took it as aspirational

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lemmy.today

Imagine being a billionaire in the mood to be generous and making a large donation... and that's the best you can come up with. Giving 10 cars to the police. WTF.

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lemmy.world

The police were probably about to open an investigation into said billionaire for child sex trafficking. Sadly, all of the evidence just suddenly went missing.

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P00ptartreply
lemmy.world

It wasn't musk that donated them. It's the owner of the business that "upfit" them, and for the record, they're contracted to ONLY "up fit" Tesla's.

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lemmy.world

So? Why are you telling me? I didn't say it was muskrat. Nobody mentioned him in this thread until after I posted.

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P00ptartreply
lemmy.world

Cause I'm saying it's simpler than that. It's just advertising for the business to his clientele. That clientele would include right wing "back the blue" types that would love to own a truck that some unspecified swat type team trusts. But if they ever actually use these vehicles for that purpose, it'll backfire.

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lemmy.world

No, you were telling me, a person that didn't imply that it was muskrat, that it wasn't muskrat. Then you make an unsubstantiated claim of who it was. The linked article doesn't say he donated them. You didn't provide any evidence for your claim beyond an implied, "Trust me bro." So my perfectly reasonable conclusion is that you misread the article in the same way you misread my original comment.

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P00ptartreply
lemmy.world

Read the article again. It says they were donated by UP.FIT.

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Where? All I see is,

The founder of UP FIT, the company that modified the Las Vegas police Cybertrucks, posted a hype video on Twitter showing off the work

That doesn't mean that they're the source of the money that paid for the trucks.

And you still have not addressed the fact that 👏I 👏did 👏not 👏say 👏it 👏was 👏muskrat.

ETA: The company is only mentioned three times in the article. The quote above, plus

According to the UP FIT Founder, the Las Vegas PD Cybertruck Doors Are Factory Stock

and

If the Las Vegas Sheriff and even the UP FIT founder thinks that Cybertrucks can stop bullets by default, there’s a reason for that.

So, no, it absolutely does NOT say

they were donated by UP.FIT.

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Reflectreply
quokk.au

How could something go missing when it never existed. Musk has never molested a child. That’s all I have to post right or do you want a thing about how he’s good at video games as well no ats perfect alright they’ll post automatically in a minute or two unga gonna get some coffee

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Jumbiereply
lemmy.zip

Not as silly as the fucking Nazi you people are defending.

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Reflectreply
quokk.au

Chance 3 to actually read my comment?

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The rule of the contemporary internet is to assume sarcasm is dead. My apologies if you’re the one keeping it alive.

If not, fuck a Nazi.

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See, a lot of people don't like to put the /s but sometimes it's required. I read it the way you meant it, but I could easily see how people wouldn't see the satire, as it's a bit on the nose. If you wanna do satire or sarcasm, you really should throw in at least one part that is truly absurd to let people know it's not actually defense, or throwing quotes around it if you're wanting to be more subtle. Also you need more exclamation points if you're going to mock the right.

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piefed.ca

This isn't a donation, this is free advertising for Musk to have the police rolling around Vegas in his trucks.

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And their business, the guys "up fitting" these cyber trucks. Which they ONLY "upfit" Tesla's.

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mander.xyz

The funny thing about them not being bulletproof will be the batteries getting pierced setting off a fire while they’re locked in.

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Fun facts I've gathered up...

  • 10 Cybertrucks were donated to Las Vegas police.
  • Las Vegas haven't noted whether to keep or sell them.
  • Any vehicle going into police duty must be "upfitted" aka upgraded with a police package (lights, siren, comms, armor, etc).
  • Police prefer a certain known standard performance vehicle specs for duty (horsepower, towing, speed, mass, manuvrrability, etc). Teslas are too young to have demonstrated anything of this.
  • Some out-of-spec police cars (e.g.- retired, siezed, donated) might get another use as community outreach vehicles (D.A.R.E. cars).
  • Article states an upfitting company named UP.FIT {corrected name} Las Vegas, aka UNPLUGGED PERFORMANCE ®. They are not a preferred public service vehicle upfitter, as they ONLY modify Teslas and only Teslas for contract.
  • Sheriff McMahill is an uneducated media regurgitator.
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BanMereply
lemmy.world

Wait they're still doing DARE after it was shown to increase drug use among teens?

DARE is where I learned to make crack, and made my list of drugs I wanted to try.

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SnarkoPoloreply
lemmy.world

A sociology professor of mine worked her first job for Rand. Her assignment was to determine the effectiveness of DARE. She found that it was only effective on eighth grade boys. Rand thanked her, paid her, and shelved the report, because this was the Reagan era.

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So many reports of studies have been shelved by companies, let alone the government. It'd be fascinating to go through them.

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DARE in wikipedia...
"...In 2002, D.A.R.E. had an annual budget of over $10 million..."
"...in 2012. The new program is called "Keepin' it REAL" and focuses less on lectures and more on interactive activities, such as practicing refusal and saying no to pressure.[9] It is now less explicitly focused on opposition to drugs, with the broader aim of teaching good decision-making..."

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It brings in money, so of course they're keeping it alive. They're trying to rebrand it, supposedly helping kids avoid standard teen stuff like suicide, etc. They had a table set up outside of Walgreens a while back. They were well-trained and aggressive, but I've spent a lifetime in sales, much of it training people for that same kind of bullshit, so I have no problem blowing them off. Politely, I'm not a monster, but...No thanks.

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Yeah. A vehicle known for trapping occupants when damaged, then burning them alive. Are you sure that’s the kind of vehicle you want to be in when it gets shot at?

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lemmy.today

That is exactly the kind of vehicle I want ICE to find themselves in. Makes em' melt like butter.

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And the entire city is going broke because of ridiculous costs and xenophobic policies towards tourists. Those tunnels will be homeless shelters in a few years.

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lemmy.world

The original design had a 3/16" stainless shell and some very special glass, especially the windshield. I know that the production model is just a similar-shaped cast aluminum Tesla frame with appliance-grade stainless sheets glued to it. It's basically a different vehicle from what they showed off.

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lemmy.world

A youtube creator showed what the said was a production car being shot with various calibers, the .22 barely dented it and if I remember right it resisted everything up to .45. My issue with that is I've seen the body panels and seen people proving its just the same stainless that a refrigerator has, and about the thickness of any car door, and I put .22 rnds threw both of them many times.

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There’s a jerryrigeverything video linked in the article. It barely holds up to a 9mm and falls to a .17.

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I wanna try see a tesla trebuchet video. I should probably clarify; I mean I want to see a cyber truck launched by a huge trebuchet. Honestly that would be a terrifying weapon. As bad as diseased corpses being launched over castle walls, anyways.

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The Musk phenomenon is so strange. I live in Canada, and I’ve made multiple people absolutely melt down over the smallest criticism of him.

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lemmy.zip

It probably doesn't matter if they are actually bulletproof. They'll be used as propaganda show cars, or personal vehicles for the brass, and never called into actual service.

No one in their right mind is going to pick the "bulletproof" cybertruck over an armored Bearcat in a scenario where they expect to be shot at. For non-tactical applications they're no more or less bulletproof than a standard potrol vehicle.

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lemmy.world

For non-tactical applications they’re no more or less bulletproof

You sure about that? I mean, they're made of thin stainless steel glued to a plastic shell.

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lemmy.zip

Yeah. Any car that isn't armored should be assumed 0% bulletproof. I wouldn't trust a car door to protect me from a .22.

The engine block is the only thing on a regular cop car that would reliably stop, deflect, or at least slow most bullets.

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Good the cops shouldn't be protected while they protect the status quo and serve as an enforcer of most things wrong.

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lemmy.zip

I need more proof. I don't believe they aren't, someone prove it.

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I appreciate you, Gollum, and I agree that that is a great video...

... Which is why that video is linked in the article under the heading:

"Cybertrucks Are Not Bulletproof. Watch This Guy Shoot Holes in One to Prove It."

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Every speeder just driving up on the sidewalk to completely disable their pursuer.

“Ed, turn here. This road has speed bumps.”

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Ready for Blues Brothers 2

To pursue the Blues Brothers, filmmakers bought more than 60 old police cars at $400 [ $1,573 today] apiece, according to news reports at the time

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They are just about as bullet proof as the cars are self driving. Dunno why anyone might think that they would actually be bullet proof, given Musk's track record...

/s

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

Wait, people didn't know that?

Various guntubers and social media influencers have been shooting up cybertrucks for like, 2 years now.

Yeah, it might stop an average pistol round from a moderate distance.

Close up? Probably not as much.

More serious, higher velocity pistol round? Also not so much.

Hits the glass? Yeah that shit ain't bulletproof at all.

Rifle round? Swiss cheese.

... I'm confused people weren't already widely aware of the cybertruck's near total non-bulletproofness.

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fedia.io

The Sheriff whose officers are presumably being trained that it is Bulletproof with a big B, that guy doesn't know.

It's an information-environment thing. If you go far enough to the right in the USA, you get a very different set of information sources.

Those information sources think the Cybertruck is bulletproof, because Elon said that it was (we actually talk about that piece in the article).

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lemmy.dbzer0.com

The Sheriff is a fucking moron then, who hasn't done the most cursory due dilligence, a brief internet search as a sanity check.

Like, I hear you, I get the whole concept of information silos / different segments of the hyperreality...

... But it also just actually is utter incompetence, objectively.

There are at least a 100 videos of people shooting at these cybertrucks with various calibers from various ranges. Thats either the same or better quality research than most police organizations produce, other than pre-Trump FBI.

Sheriff should be fired, its his job to know.

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lemmy.world

I mean they are, who in their right mind would shoot a police car!? But I guess that is America. Crazy

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lemmy.today

Today? Only an idiot.

In 2029, when Trump refuses to leave? Maybe lots of people.

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Trumpet himself will be removed/ excluded from power. But the team he's put in place might not disappear so quickly.

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