Yeah, Trump's already been impeached twice and he got re-elected. So what the hell is Mikey complaining about? Who cares if the president is impeached?
It's going to have the opposite effect in time. If center-right moderates are called radical Marxists, then they might as well at least be social democrats or democratic socialists anyway and at least have some sound policies instead of watered-down right-wing garbage.
That's years old right wing propaganda spread by the likes of Alex Jones for years. They use the 'socialism' in "national socialist" (part of the term Nazi comes from) to argue so, ignoring the fact that anyone can make a name whether or not it's true. If any socialist plans were made by the Nazis, it was of course racist first; only the in group gets any benefit.
These are old ideas that were niche at first but have been moving out into the public as the right shifts the Overton window. Stuff we'd dismiss at ridiculous crazy yelly conspiracy man is now mainstream even with people who might not want to be associated with Jones.
Yeah, I love that one. "They have socialist in the name!" So you believe the People's Democratic Republic of Korea is all of those things?
The Nazis have socialist in the name because they joined with socialists in the early days to consolidate power and then they killed the socialists. Who what it they first came for in that poem? The fucking socialists.
If they think it's the radical left advocating for the expected and traditional use of law as written and to it's normal effect, boy howdy have they got another thing coming.
No matter how radical any republican may think the left could be, the current people in charge are both actively protecting pedophiles, and are, themselves, guilty of abusing children.
Maybe we need some radical left right now, eh? Maybe the child rapists shouldn't be in charge.
Even with a solid majority, the house and senate democrats will be too full of individual self-interests too do anything of the sort.
It's not individual self-interests, it's pretty blatant corruption to protect their donors, the US oligarchs. Any real investigation into republicans will implicate "democrat" billionaires as well.
He was already impeached twice, they will do nothing besides symbolic tasks. so many people belong in jail, yet legally, that is now not possible because nothing trump does is illegal. and the dems will make a show of an impeachment then not remove him
Impeachment is one half of the process. If the Dems held a supermajority in the Senate he would have been removed.
Yes, this requires a lot of things to have been different, and everyone would have had to be following the intent of the constitution, not just the letter, but there exists a way to remove him and put him in jail.
You can throw your hands up and say he's immune from any consequences, but if everyone did that then it would really be true.
I'm not saying people should blindly hope and do nothing, but quitting is exactly what they want.
Impeachment doesn't go through the courts but is entirely a matter for Congress. They can impeach him for anything or nothing as long as they have the votes.
Issue is, that won't necessarily happen, because a lot of democrats are cowards, and the right knows it. Many on the right calls this move of calling the opposition radicals in this way as a form of "cucking", so it shames some of them into preemptively conceding.
Democrat POLITICIANS are cowards, Democratic VOTERS are NOT. They are angry, and they want to go to WAR with MAGA, but our battlefield general is Schmuck Schumer, and he's a smarmy, insipid little bitch, and is more interested in insider trading than being the courageous warrior leader we need. He doesn't care at all who's in charge, as long as he can keep making money. PedoCons are fine with him. He's their best Democrat friend.
AOC needs to primary him, and kick him out of the Senate in humiliating fashion, just like she did to the calcified old fart whose Congressional seat she first took.
I'd like to entertain the idea that they're not actually cowards, but are either conservative plants, or are otherwise paid/controlled by the conservative agenda.
It will happen with a Democrat majority. It just doesn't mean anything because unless they have a supermajority and can get enough reps to agree on removal, impeachment ≠ removal from office. It's just the start of a trial to consider his removal. It's basically a slap on the wrist for him. He's already been impeached twice and nothing happened.
If a Democrat said what Mike Johnson was saying, the party would kick that person out for being unelectable.
Democrats don't want anyone interested in impeachment. They want serious, moderate, business friendly, popular politicians like Henry Cuellar and Robert Menendez.
There will just be a Dem Boogeyman for everyone to blame on why the party never does anything like Manchin and Sinema. They always just so happen to find a couple whenever they have a majority so they never have to actually do anything.
My concern if the dems do impeach Trump IF they win the midterms is that either he will not step down (which he can technically do) and then it’s moot. Or we impeach Trump, get Vance and then because he didn’t suck as bad as Trump we get another 4 years of a republican president.
Impeaching the kumquat in chief, at this point, is pointless. Even without the brainless leader, the system and people that allowed him to gain the office and to systematically destroy the United States economy, among other things, is still in place. Another crackpot maniacal leader is inevitable.
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Yet again Republicans think Democrats are way cooler than they are.
The left is totally radical.
They've done it before
Yeah, Trump's already been impeached twice and he got re-elected. So what the hell is Mikey complaining about? Who cares if the president is impeached?
You have a strange sense of 'left'.
It's going to have the opposite effect in time. If center-right moderates are called radical Marxists, then they might as well at least be social democrats or democratic socialists anyway and at least have some sound policies instead of watered-down right-wing garbage.
if that held the democratic party would have gone left since Obama
Well, they kind of have but that's also relative. Were it not for AIPAC's grip in the party, I wonder how much further they would've gone.
That's an insane thing to say
lol if you think that's insane then you should see the comment I tagged you with! ;)
I'm already voting Democrat, Mike. You don't have to sell it to me.
Is this "American left wing" in the room with us right now?
In America they've calibrated the political compass with Hitler at 0,0
People have the weirdest political compasses now. Spoke to a crypto bloke the other day who was emphatic about Nazism being "leftist" ideology.
That's years old right wing propaganda spread by the likes of Alex Jones for years. They use the 'socialism' in "national socialist" (part of the term Nazi comes from) to argue so, ignoring the fact that anyone can make a name whether or not it's true. If any socialist plans were made by the Nazis, it was of course racist first; only the in group gets any benefit.
These are old ideas that were niche at first but have been moving out into the public as the right shifts the Overton window. Stuff we'd dismiss at ridiculous crazy yelly conspiracy man is now mainstream even with people who might not want to be associated with Jones.
Yeah, I love that one. "They have socialist in the name!" So you believe the People's Democratic Republic of Korea is all of those things?
The Nazis have socialist in the name because they joined with socialists in the early days to consolidate power and then they killed the socialists. Who what it they first came for in that poem? The fucking socialists.
And every one knows he was a lefty, right?
To the American conservative? "National socialism" is all they need to hear, then they stop thinking
American conservatives: "Hitler was a socialist. Also he did nothing wrong".
there is no "radical left." an enemy that does not exist.
wish there was
"Radical left" is the Dems who actually want to do something. Don't worry though there aren't enough of them to get the job done.
By the rest of the world's standards, our left isn't even remotely left.
I mean, it should. But it doesn't.
If they think it's the radical left advocating for the expected and traditional use of law as written and to it's normal effect, boy howdy have they got another thing coming.
No matter how radical any republican may think the left could be, the current people in charge are both actively protecting pedophiles, and are, themselves, guilty of abusing children.
Maybe we need some radical left right now, eh? Maybe the child rapists shouldn't be in charge.
Well these are the same folks with pedos running their hometown church. Pedophiles run deep in the church I expect them to elect them without thought
Don't reason with idiots, just give em the boot and spit on em on the way out
I wouldn't be getting my hopes up.
If there's one thing watching US politics, from Europe these last +20 years, has taught me, then it's this:
Even with a solid majority, the house and senate democrats will be too full of individual self-interests too do anything of the sort.
The democrats need something like the heritage foundation to effectively herd them into a unified collaborating political party.
It's not individual self-interests, it's pretty blatant corruption to protect their donors, the US oligarchs. Any real investigation into republicans will implicate "democrat" billionaires as well.
can trump even be impeached anymore? as legally, whatever he does isn't a crime?
legally, he's a tyrant and the law protects him.
The courts declared that impeachment is the only option, not that there are zero options.
He was already impeached twice, they will do nothing besides symbolic tasks. so many people belong in jail, yet legally, that is now not possible because nothing trump does is illegal. and the dems will make a show of an impeachment then not remove him
This is exactly the idea behind the meme. They've already impeached him, twice. And nothing happened, it was all for show.
When they say bread and circus I did not expect the government to be the circus
Impeachment is one half of the process. If the Dems held a supermajority in the Senate he would have been removed.
Yes, this requires a lot of things to have been different, and everyone would have had to be following the intent of the constitution, not just the letter, but there exists a way to remove him and put him in jail.
You can throw your hands up and say he's immune from any consequences, but if everyone did that then it would really be true.
I'm not saying people should blindly hope and do nothing, but quitting is exactly what they want.
Impeachment doesn't go through the courts but is entirely a matter for Congress. They can impeach him for anything or nothing as long as they have the votes.
yhea, (if they were to do it). why impeach if they won't remove.
and technically, trump committed no crimes now.
Supreme Court shadow docket decision: Only the President can impeach the President.
'Yes! Keep our majority so our supreme leader can skirt around the law.'
It would be so cool if we really had a radical left instead of the status quo centrists he's actually referring to.
the boogeyman of the right, the mythical left of the USA. says the PORN(probably gay or trans) obsessed man.
Why are you protecting a known felon, Mike?
you in that little black book, mike?
Nothing happens even if they do, so what's the worry?
about the Republican voters starting to second guess their votes, this is just internal consumption for the right wing voters.
Third times the charm?
Not like it matters unless removal.
Because he should be.
Inshallah
Issue is, that won't necessarily happen, because a lot of democrats are cowards, and the right knows it. Many on the right calls this move of calling the opposition radicals in this way as a form of "cucking", so it shames some of them into preemptively conceding.
Democrat POLITICIANS are cowards, Democratic VOTERS are NOT. They are angry, and they want to go to WAR with MAGA, but our battlefield general is Schmuck Schumer, and he's a smarmy, insipid little bitch, and is more interested in insider trading than being the courageous warrior leader we need. He doesn't care at all who's in charge, as long as he can keep making money. PedoCons are fine with him. He's their best Democrat friend.
AOC needs to primary him, and kick him out of the Senate in humiliating fashion, just like she did to the calcified old fart whose Congressional seat she first took.
Oh yeah is that 10 million less voted for Harris and handed the presidency to a convicted felon pedophile?
That's not bravery. That is selfish, irresponsible and stupid.
AOC doesn't seem to have any problem with voting to give more money to Israel, but I guess we'll just pretend that didn't happen.
They chose to not vote for Genocide. I can respect that, even if I don't agree with withholding my vote over it.
I'd like to entertain the idea that they're not actually cowards, but are either conservative plants, or are otherwise paid/controlled by the conservative agenda.
It will happen with a Democrat majority. It just doesn't mean anything because unless they have a supermajority and can get enough reps to agree on removal, impeachment ≠ removal from office. It's just the start of a trial to consider his removal. It's basically a slap on the wrist for him. He's already been impeached twice and nothing happened.
We continue to refuse to vote for Democrats and then whine about them not doing anything.
No middle ground, huh?
If you see all world as an enemy, the enemy will be you.
how come it is the republicans who are making the campaign statements dems should be making?
If a Democrat said what Mike Johnson was saying, the party would kick that person out for being unelectable.
Democrats don't want anyone interested in impeachment. They want serious, moderate, business friendly, popular politicians like Henry Cuellar and Robert Menendez.
They are a business. the party makes money from donations. they want people who donors like not leaders.
Are these radical left in the room with us now?
Show me on this doll where the Radical Left touched you...
There will just be a Dem Boogeyman for everyone to blame on why the party never does anything like Manchin and Sinema. They always just so happen to find a couple whenever they have a majority so they never have to actually do anything.
Don't threaten us with a good time
My concern if the dems do impeach Trump IF they win the midterms is that either he will not step down (which he can technically do) and then it’s moot. Or we impeach Trump, get Vance and then because he didn’t suck as bad as Trump we get another 4 years of a republican president.
Wow! Is that a promise?
I love how the narrative always seems to be you are either Republican, or a radical. Lol
Their president used his Christmas message to call half the country "scum".
Impeaching the kumquat in chief, at this point, is pointless. Even without the brainless leader, the system and people that allowed him to gain the office and to systematically destroy the United States economy, among other things, is still in place. Another crackpot maniacal leader is inevitable.
We can only hope they do!
Apparently thinking a grossly unqualified, convicted felon pedophile shouldn't be president is "radical"?
No MAGA, you're the radicals.
He will be starring in a holiday production of "The Nutcracker."
Only to those clowns like that, is something like justice considered radical.