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Add this to the list of "problems the wealthy make sure we don't solve."

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We should make a song, death..death to the O.I.L.... Same tune as Bob Vylan did in Glastonbury.

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lemmy.world

The year is 2070. Common daily temps are between 35-45°C. Only 200k humans survive globally, and barely.

They still use fossil fuels to generate electricity...

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A truce has been reached between the forces of AE-X11 Musk and the virtual consciousness of Jeff Bezos as they vow to unite against the tribal council of the former Russian Federation to secure the remaining oil reserves in the desert plains of the Antarctic continent

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Triumphreply
fedia.io

If there’s only 200K people left, everything is going to be fine … for them.

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Human population now being only 0.00025% of its peak, their greenhouse gas emissions are now insignificant, so, the planet is now finally recovering, fast.

Edit : obviously I'm not a writer.

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lemmy.ca

daily temps are between 35-45°C

Not in Russia. :D

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lemmy.ca

Maybe, but look at that territory, it's perfectly positioned to unlock more agriculutural land northward as the world further south burns. I bet the Russian ruling class is eagerly awaiting this scenario that would put them towards the top of the pile in world powers. They may end up in a position to pick and choose from waves of immigrants.

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Problem is that it isn't that simple. The general fact we do know is that the atmosphere will be more energetic and, on average, the globe will be hotter. The more energetic facet means more weather activity and changes to various currents. So local weather may be more impacted by a change in wind current temperature wise. The change in storm activity may be the bigger concern rather than temperatures. We don't know how much viable agriculture will be possible or exactly where it will be. Also there's the question of soil quality. It's a dangerous gambit to assume a straightforward "Lots of snowy land now means lots of agriculture in a warmed globe".

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200K?

Hey everyone, check it out, this guy still has some optimism left!

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Doesn't need a lot of oil to upkeep a population of 200k humans though.

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Born too late to die in war over oil, born too early to die in war over oil, born just in time to die in war over oil.

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fedia.io

For comparison, Venezuela has the world's largest oil reserve at 303 billion barrels.

Winter is coming.

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SeeMarkFlyreply
lemmy.ml

Venezuela has the world’s largest oil reserve

Is THAT why we have an aircraft carrier off the coast?

They've got oil and they're NOT sharing it with rich people?

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

I mean to be fair they just don't have the infrastructure to extract it anymore. Economic sanctions since the Obama years have mean that the equipment to extract crude has become hard to maintain.

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SeeMarkFlyreply
lemmy.ml

So, because they can't use it, we should take it?

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No. But they aren't refusing to sell it. They just don't have it. And are under various sanctions by the US, EU and most south American countries over human rights abuse so they probably couldn't sell oil anyway.

Actually it's kinda ironic that Venezuela is under sanctions for human rights abuse but not the Gulf states.

Oh and I wasn't actually trying to go anywhere with my comment but I do realize how it sounds now. But I am not in favor of invading anyone

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0x0reply

Is THAT why we have an aircraft carrier off the coast?

Yes.

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lemmy.ca

I read somewhere that a large amount of the refining capacity in America is geared towards dilbit like the one that used to come from Venezuela and now from Canada. Perhaps Venezuelan fishermen's oil is still cheaper in the end and therefore more desirable.

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lemmy.ca

Won't somebody PLEASE think of the cocaine?

Not that Venezuela has any. But I think we can all agree that legalizing cocaine and doing lots of cocaine is the most important issue of the day.

COCAINE!!!!!!

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lemmy.ml

It's almost poetic. The oil got there because there was once vegetation on Antarctica, that decayed over the eons. Now the thirst for oil will lead to heating the planet enough to melt the ice again.

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To be fair, the antarctic continent wasn't always at earth's southern pole, it was at a lower lattitude, so implying the overall earth temperature is why it wasn't covered in ice is less significant.

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mfed1122reply
discuss.tchncs.de

But Russia is the one doing oil prospecting while masking it as seismic research which obviously skirts the intent of the Antarctic Treaty, which other countries actually do honor

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lemmy.world

It's amazing how we always find ways to speedrun our downfall.

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lemmy.world

Hey what is this we? Don't bring me into this. It's always the same few assholes at the top doing it all

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Is it not incumbent upon the rest of society to stop a maniac when he threatens to burn everything down? Inaction in the face of evil is complicity. We all need to start organizing for the revolution.

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Sorry, a lot stuff happens whether we want it or not. And it affects us all.

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lemmy.world

We? Bring them behind the shed in my back yard and 'we' won't have this problem.

I'd happily eat some long pig to reduce the overabundance of whiny bitches with money.

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Now, see, this is what we are not allowed to talk about. But it leads to this.

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tornavishreply
lemmy.cafe

We have been cooked for a while. I don’t think there’s anything after well-done, except burnt.

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Triumphreply
fedia.io

It shall be called the Maillard Era.

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lemmy.zip

More to the point, what will the consequences be of that much carbon being repatriated into the atmosphere? I hear that Siberia has had some awfully hot, miserable summers recently. It’s likely not going to go over well with the climate problems Russia is having.

Hmmmm.

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infosec.pub

The consequences aren't a secret. Look up the Planetary Solvency actuarial report from earlier this year, for starters.

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This report doesn't talk about acidification tho. The ocean could drop us faster than light.

As the ocean warms more co2 can dissolve so its an exponential rise

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feddit.org

The issue with fossile fuels or more generally oil dependency isn't the limited availability. It's that they're massive deposits of stored carbon and if we start burning them they get released to the atmosphere. With the oil deposits already known if we use them all, we'd have killed the planet long before the last drop of oil is used. We don't need any new deposits.

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Show me a single country capable of extracting this oil who cares. There isn’t one. This is a capitalism problem, not a Russia problem.

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A war to extract the oil from Antarctica would be difficult to win.

A war to stop extraction from Antarctica would be easy to win.

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lemmy.zip

Trump's about to liberate Antarta... Aunt Tart... Antitartica... the place where the polar bears live!

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lemmy.zip

Fun fact, though you may have known. Arctic basically means "of the bear" because of the northern position of Ursa Major (bear constellation, also the Big Dipper). Antarctic means "not of the bear". Because of how words work, it's also Arctic = "north" and Antarctic = "anti-north".

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Also pretty fun coincidence that the northern one is the only one with actual bears.

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This comment just made me shudder, it sounds too real

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lemmy.blahaj.zone

Just for context, the US uses around 7 billion barrels per year. Can keep the SUVs going for the better part of a century.

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JamesTBaggreply
lemmy.world

What's weird is that Gale Banks, one of the godfathers of turbocharging and a huge name in diesel performance, is adamant that rolling coal is stupid. Especially in modern engines with lightening fast fuel control systems... more forgivable in older diesels with mechanical injection systems. But he says it's money and horsepower literally blowing out your exhaust, being a internal combustion engine enthusiast myself I don't understand wanting to leave performance blowing away in the wind; that's YOUR unburnt diesel blowing away! In THIS economy!

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0x0reply
lemmy.zip

No matter the advances, the Otto cycle will always be 25% efficient, at most.

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JamesTBaggreply
lemmy.world

Last I heard modern gas engines have reached a smidge over 30% thermal efficiency because the pure Otto cycle hasn't been used in decades. Mazda(?) recently announced an engine over 40% efficiency using an Atkinson design I think. Superchargers and more Turbochargers boost efficiency more by recycling waste energy.

But I'm not sure any of that matters because diesels aren't Otto Cycle.

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0x0reply
lemmy.zip

diesels aren’t Otto Cycle.

Are they not four-stroke?

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JamesTBaggreply
lemmy.world

All Otto cycle are 4-stroke but not all 4-stroke are Otto cycle.

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0x0reply

Such as Wankels, ok, just replace "Otto cycle" with 4-stroke in my original comment.

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Hmm sounds like a good reason to have the ice all melt and speed up us dependency on it - USA 2026 probably

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This title legit made me wanna not wake up tomorrow 😭

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lemmy.world

Just in time for it to not matter as oil demand declines and renewable energy takes over.

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I mean, it's arguably always better to not entirely deplete something, even if you don't "need" it.

That being said... Ughhhh

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lemmy.ca

Solar is moving so fast, no way this will be economically feasible to draw up. Leave it in the ground!!

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feddit.org

True, but we will still need it for plastic, just look at temu et cetera

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glibgreply
lemmy.ca

If we stop burning it for energy I think there will be plenty left for plastic without needing to dig new wells.

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Cost more to recycle which is the problem. If it was all biodegradable from plants would be best.

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Wasn't this in news cycles back in July? I feel like I'm going crazy here.

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In before we deliberately start melting antarctic ice to more easily access oil deposits

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