That is turned off but it must have defaulted to that. I don't recall ever seeing this option before. In fact I don't think I've ever even been in that menu, lol. The other options in there were turned on, were turned on.
Futo is Foss and offline. I switched to it recently from Swiftkey. Before that, apps would always restart if I switched windows or tabbed back to home screen and I assumed it was just my phone being lame. But since switching, that happens a lot less. So I can only assume futo is using less resources.
They aren't true foss, but 'source available'. I don't remember why exactly (probably for licensing or something) and the typical user won't know what that means nor care, but it is something to be aware of.
I like and use Grayjay, but the keyboard was not up to my standards, personally. Can't find any foss/adjacent keyboards to come close to SwiftKey at all. I've been using it since release like 16+ years ago (?) or something, and every time I try something else, it's just bad for a bunch of reasons.
Yup, it’s not FOSS but FUTO did some semi-shady definition shuffling so it would sound like it was, in the past.
That, combined with some other recent drama about more shady behaviour, mean I’ll probably generally avoid things coming out of them.
For truly FOSS android keyboards afaik there is Florisboard, Heliboard, AnysoftKey, Fossify Keyboard or Unexpected keyboard, as well as a couple more experimental options.
Dammit. Thanks for that. The description made it look like Foss and I fell for it. I've only just got my futo trained, but I'll look at the others you recommended. I got the beta fossify before futo as I like the rest of the suite, but it didn't even have a dictionary?
Yeah. I've looked into pulling the custom dictionary data but had issues logging in to obtain them - and I'm pretty sure that it won't include the 'logic' required that tries to determine 'when to use' one suggestion vs another.
I tried it right when i made the switch (when reddit pulled the plug on third party) and didnt care for it. Idk if I just didnt know lemmy and that confounded my problems... has it changed? Or maybe I've learned enough i should give it a go ago.
It has improved over the years from when I first installed it. I just really appreciate the AMOLED theme and simple UI. I never found a reason to find a replacement.
Its because it gets reported as the app using the screen and other subsystems during time its in-focus. So really it's mostly your screen/wifi/etc using power, not the website as such - but the phone categorizes relevant power draw to the active foreground app that's preventing the phone from sleeping.
I'm sorry, I don't wanna break the funny, so if you're just here to laugh, the please feel free to do so.
If you are suffering:
Real Phone addiction, which a lot of people nowadays have, takes lifes. It is nothing to joke with. Get a professional if you can. It will erode you physical wellness, your social groups, your grades, your working capacity, you will get severe depression, anxiety, will lack hunger. We all know where that can lead.
Fight it, you have ambitions. The phone does not make you happy.
You should put your phone in a cabinet. Ideally in a space where other people can see it during the day. Then loudly announce to them that you're limiting your screen time in that way.
This is the first step: Admitting it, full stop, nothing to be ashamed of.
When you catch yourself doing more than standing awkwardly in front of the cabinet to answer messages from friends and family you should fix that by putting the phone back into the cabinet. If this is too hard, buy a timed phone safe. Make sure to have a way to call the fire department.
That's the second step: Correcting yourself. Just don't get frustrated, it's not you, it's your addiction.
And then when you can leave that shitter in there for as long as you want without thinking of it in a longingly way, then you can finally start living a life without your addiction. It won't be gone, mind you.
And that's the final step: Consistency.
After a long time of personal development you may even completely make your addiction disappear, but this takes a long time.
Personal development will happen along the way. You will be surprised how much emotion you will have without your phone. You will want to do stuff again.
So you were standing there all uncomfortably in the kitchen while you typed that out with your thumbs? You did send a good message though. Everything you said is pretty true except I don't think most people would want to store their phone in their cabinet. Our phones are not only addictive, but if we can get past that addiction they still come in handy and they are essential to daily life.
Okay, first of I have no idea with whatever else I would be typing rather than my thumbs.
Second of, I do sometimes stand in front my cabinet, sometimes I take it out for a few minutes. But it never gets to an hour anymore. Using my phone for less than an hour a day is not achievable for most "modern" (lmao) humans. I still have the need to write my friends, which are sadly all addicted to their phones too, don't go out regularly and we chat using our phones. Lemmy is a whole other issue, but it's getting less as well.
Just because I'm doing something doesn't mean I'm perfect at it. You appear like a double hyprocrite for trying to point out how I'm not doing what I say and meanwhile don't do it yourself while finding it to be true.
I turned off screen time on my iPhone because it’s hopelessly broken. It kept reporting that I was using my phone 20+hours a day with multiple apps given seven time being waaaay higher than reality. Lots of posts to be found on this bug.
Olive Garden is a restaurant chain. It would be like spending all day on the Arby's or McDonald's app with an added layer of Olive Garden being a bit obscure.
If you run an android device, or any other computer that doesn't allow the user to do basic things like close apps. You should make use of the battery optimization settings.
On android every app that you don't want real time updates from should be set to restricted battery mode, and background data to off.
The only time you need background data is for real time updates or background play in apps like YouTube or Spotify.
This feature will almost certainly get removed in the future if history is any indication, so enjoy having decent battery life and better networking performance while it lasts.
It's good for some things, messaging, banking, background play, etc. just the less you have the less apps will destroy your battery and your network connection.
A lot of us paid for the premium membership when the Sync dev made the app to support him. He promptly stopped updating it and we all kept waiting thinking he was going to do the same thing he had done on Reddit, popping in once in awhile to update with minimal communication. Nope. No updates or communications for about 18 months.
In Japan, major apps, such as for some subway systems were iPhone only. In China a guy with an ancient iPhone called my S23 shit. In Vietnam women spend like 2 months wage on new iPhones to show off.
Ironically the US is the least bad about thinking iPhone are special.
46% for 42 minutes of background use is pretty wild though.
I've also had some high usage from antennapod, not sure if it is still happening. I've seen some threads online about but I'm not sure if it was fixed by now.
Upon closer inspection I realize that this is 46% of the drained battery — so 46% of 33%, which is only about 15% of my total battery life. On the whole that is worth it for me, I really like AntennaPod :)
In English, I personally listen to and can recommend 99% invisible, no such thing as a fish and stuff you should know.
99% invisible: started as a podcast explaining small design /architectural choices which you never noticed before but are everywhere and why they make such a difference (like marks on windows where it is a good place to enter a burning building with a ladder lift), but is now a bit broader than that. American made so a bit american focused as well.
No such thing as a fish: factbased talk with 4 hosts, most of them comedians, based around facts, from the team who created/creates? the questions for QI on the BBC. Always good fun to listen to.
Stuff you should know: two men explaining random stuff which you probably have heard of but don't know the fine details about, like how vaccines work, how gerrymandering works, ... American made so focus on America again, and quite heavy on adds, so keep that fast-forward-button of antennapod nearby! ( I've had antennapod configured to that pressing next song button skips 20 seconds, makes it very easy to skip commercials in the car or on bike.)
Those podcasts all are still active, I've also listened with pleasure to a couple of series which were just a number of stories:
Uncharted with Hannah Fry: stories on how math solved a big problem, from BBC sounds so very nice audio
I started with the missing Cryptoqueen , also from BBC sounds, but stopped listening after a while because I had less time to listen. Audio was great again, so I recommend checking out BBC sounds.
A thriller in which you, the listener, are the hero. The Walk begins in Inverness station, Scotland. Through a case of mistaken identity, you, "the walker," are given a vital package that must be couriered to Edinburgh. But as you're about to board the train, terrorists blow it up and set off an electromagnetic pulse! None of the cars or trains are working - you'll have to walk - but now the terrorists are on your trail because they want the device you're carrying, and the police are after you as a suspect in the bombing. To survive, you'll have to join up with other escapees from the city - but how many of them can you trust, and are they really who they say they are?
I listen to a lot of basic news stuff like Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes, not because those are particularly good, but just to feed my addiction to news...
One podcast I genuinely enjoy and find hilarious though, is If Books Could Kill with Michael and Peter. Sometimes I disagree with their takes, but I always find them hilarious. Website: https://www.ifbookspod.com/. 100% recommend :)
But it's 46% of their battery usage. If they're not using much battery this makes sense. Mine is 32% for 6 hr 11 minutes since my last full charge which is days ago.
ha jokes on you I only access social media from a browser there fore I can't be addicted. No if you excuse me I am 3 days away from a 100 day streak on reddit.
i don't have social media but i browse lemmy a little too frequently for my liking so i started using the screen zen app. i limited my use to 2 hours per day, which can be broken into 15min intervals.
so when i try to launch sync a screen pops up and says "0/8, is this important?" and waits 5 seconds before i can say unlock, or don't unlock immediately. the result has been fantastic, i use it like 3 times a day for less than 15min each.
the thing about the timer is it doesn't stop if you tab out of the app so you either consume the allotted time in one sitting or it just goes away. which at first i thought was a bad thing but turns out being forced to use it in one go makes it feel more like a chore so you don't even wanna do it.
if you have an impulse problem with social media i think this type of app could help a lot.
What in the hell is happenin' over in the Olive garden app!?
Absolute class meme
can someone explain this to me who's familiar with neither
We're just family.
Bro, are you not playing the hidden game on there "BRDstix"? It's awesome.
Can't tell if you're serious or not....
Soup and salad and unlimited breadsticks.
If you leave, you have to pay when you come back.
that seems like a lot of battery for just a keyboard
It runs a local LLM for auto correct and voice to text.
that seems like overkill
No, that's a feature. Google voice to text will send everything to google servers.
Weird, I put my phone in airplane mode and verbally typed this out
You probably have this off https://www.guidingtech.com/wp-content/uploads/Turn-Off-Gboard-Toggles3.jpg
That is turned off but it must have defaulted to that. I don't recall ever seeing this option before. In fact I don't think I've ever even been in that menu, lol. The other options in there were turned on, were turned on.
Yeah, it's the one real negative I have with it and something a lot of reviews for it mention.
Tried HeliBoard?
HeliBoard is soooo good. Seconded. A lot of FOSS keyboards out there need.... A little more polish ^^;
Data harvesting?
Futo is Foss and offline. I switched to it recently from Swiftkey. Before that, apps would always restart if I switched windows or tabbed back to home screen and I assumed it was just my phone being lame. But since switching, that happens a lot less. So I can only assume futo is using less resources.
They aren't true foss, but 'source available'. I don't remember why exactly (probably for licensing or something) and the typical user won't know what that means nor care, but it is something to be aware of.
I like and use Grayjay, but the keyboard was not up to my standards, personally. Can't find any foss/adjacent keyboards to come close to SwiftKey at all. I've been using it since release like 16+ years ago (?) or something, and every time I try something else, it's just bad for a bunch of reasons.
Yup, it’s not FOSS but FUTO did some semi-shady definition shuffling so it would sound like it was, in the past.
That, combined with some other recent drama about more shady behaviour, mean I’ll probably generally avoid things coming out of them.
For truly FOSS android keyboards afaik there is Florisboard, Heliboard, AnysoftKey, Fossify Keyboard or Unexpected keyboard, as well as a couple more experimental options.
Dammit. Thanks for that. The description made it look like Foss and I fell for it. I've only just got my futo trained, but I'll look at the others you recommended. I got the beta fossify before futo as I like the rest of the suite, but it didn't even have a dictionary?
I believe there's some form of training involved in swift key so yeah, if you have a 16 year old one you should probably hold on to it
Yeah. I've looked into pulling the custom dictionary data but had issues logging in to obtain them - and I'm pretty sure that it won't include the 'logic' required that tries to determine 'when to use' one suggestion vs another.
What is connect? A Lemmy client?
Pretty good client. I use it because it reminds me of RiF when I left reddit.
I tried it right when i made the switch (when reddit pulled the plug on third party) and didnt care for it. Idk if I just didnt know lemmy and that confounded my problems... has it changed? Or maybe I've learned enough i should give it a go ago.
It has improved over the years from when I first installed it. I just really appreciate the AMOLED theme and simple UI. I never found a reason to find a replacement.
Yes.
That I align with 3 out of 4 of those is a bit concerning.
Olive Garden might just be as bad as Uber, where loading it for a short time drains an inordinate amount of battery.
If you close the app, they stop delivering the unlimited breadsticks until you make another order.
Conspiracy time: Olive Garden buys the breadsticks with cryptocurrency mined from your phone.
Conspiracy or brilliant business acumen?
Uh oh…
There are only 3 possibilities
Voyager is a website in a wrapper. I dunno how it’s suppose to run the battery anymore than Safari does.
Its because it gets reported as the app using the screen and other subsystems during time its in-focus. So really it's mostly your screen/wifi/etc using power, not the website as such - but the phone categorizes relevant power draw to the active foreground app that's preventing the phone from sleeping.
WTF are you doing with Olive Garden, Dan?
coffee and breadsticks on my day off shuddup
You're a slacker if it's not 100% LinkedIn.
If it's ever over 50%, have me institutionalized and thrown in a padded room. Something has gone wrong.
Will I fall into this obvious trap for discussing the grotesque volume of time spent on the Olive Garden app? No. No i will not. … fuck.
(Cries in Big Mac sauce.)
It must be bugged and busy-looping in the background.
In my defense, this is after work.
Metrolist, my man 🫡
What is metrolist?
It lists all the types of metros, obviously.
U guys get many metros? I don't even have 1 metro
We've got government subsidised metros here.
Yeah, come on, don't leave us hangin'!! I too would like to learn of this metrolist!
It's a list of totally metrosexual stuff:
Its only for gay people. Metrosexuals like myself. LOL.
I'm sorry, I don't wanna break the funny, so if you're just here to laugh, the please feel free to do so.
If you are suffering:
Real Phone addiction, which a lot of people nowadays have, takes lifes. It is nothing to joke with. Get a professional if you can. It will erode you physical wellness, your social groups, your grades, your working capacity, you will get severe depression, anxiety, will lack hunger. We all know where that can lead.
Fight it, you have ambitions. The phone does not make you happy.
You should put your phone in a cabinet. Ideally in a space where other people can see it during the day. Then loudly announce to them that you're limiting your screen time in that way.
This is the first step: Admitting it, full stop, nothing to be ashamed of.
When you catch yourself doing more than standing awkwardly in front of the cabinet to answer messages from friends and family you should fix that by putting the phone back into the cabinet. If this is too hard, buy a timed phone safe. Make sure to have a way to call the fire department.
That's the second step: Correcting yourself. Just don't get frustrated, it's not you, it's your addiction.
And then when you can leave that shitter in there for as long as you want without thinking of it in a longingly way, then you can finally start living a life without your addiction. It won't be gone, mind you.
And that's the final step: Consistency.
After a long time of personal development you may even completely make your addiction disappear, but this takes a long time.
Personal development will happen along the way. You will be surprised how much emotion you will have without your phone. You will want to do stuff again.
Good luck. BANISH THAT FUCKER.
Matter of fact, I'll have to put something away.
Did you write that on your phone? Or on your computer? Same addiction.
Phone.
Then you should've put the phone back in the cabinet. Follow your rules.
I did do that.
I still use it from time to time.
So you were standing there all uncomfortably in the kitchen while you typed that out with your thumbs? You did send a good message though. Everything you said is pretty true except I don't think most people would want to store their phone in their cabinet. Our phones are not only addictive, but if we can get past that addiction they still come in handy and they are essential to daily life.
Okay, first of I have no idea with whatever else I would be typing rather than my thumbs.
Second of, I do sometimes stand in front my cabinet, sometimes I take it out for a few minutes. But it never gets to an hour anymore. Using my phone for less than an hour a day is not achievable for most "modern" (lmao) humans. I still have the need to write my friends, which are sadly all addicted to their phones too, don't go out regularly and we chat using our phones. Lemmy is a whole other issue, but it's getting less as well.
Just because I'm doing something doesn't mean I'm perfect at it. You appear like a double hyprocrite for trying to point out how I'm not doing what I say and meanwhile don't do it yourself while finding it to be true.
iPhone creates a Screen Time report if you want to see actual usage and not just battery usage.
Samsung does too, don't know if this is android native or not
Ah a fellow Proton user! Where I stopped scrolling made me think I had an email 😂
Found the Dutchie!
Same on my Android
I turned off screen time on my iPhone because it’s hopelessly broken. It kept reporting that I was using my phone 20+hours a day with multiple apps given seven time being waaaay higher than reality. Lots of posts to be found on this bug.
Wow, Termux is at the top for me, at 86%. I know my phone often gets notably warm while building packages in Termux, but that is surprising.
No idea what "Olive Garden" is - is it used all day, or is it just a shitty programmed app that it eats up the battery?
Olive Garden is a restaurant chain. It would be like spending all day on the Arby's or McDonald's app with an added layer of Olive Garden being a bit obscure.
If you run an android device, or any other computer that doesn't allow the user to do basic things like close apps. You should make use of the battery optimization settings.
On android every app that you don't want real time updates from should be set to restricted battery mode, and background data to off.
The only time you need background data is for real time updates or background play in apps like YouTube or Spotify.
This feature will almost certainly get removed in the future if history is any indication, so enjoy having decent battery life and better networking performance while it lasts.
And makes total sense here. I need to know the second that never ending pasta bowl starts.
It's good for some things, messaging, banking, background play, etc. just the less you have the less apps will destroy your battery and your network connection.
This review of Olive Garden went viral, and the review/reviewer was mocked online---but then Anthony Bourdain came to her defense.
Kinda a cute story, and a fun read.
Great read!
Yo. Why is system UI so high?
Maybe uninstall System UI. will improve battery life
WTH is that even is
How do you find Fennec?
Through fdroid
Ba dum tisss. I mean, do you like it? How is it compared to FF?
Seems exactly the same. No issues whatsoever
My phone is a YouTube player apparently. Teams and Outlook for work.
Oops... (Been sitting in meetings a lot today)
Lol. Sync is abandoned for Lemmy. I would recommend trying something else soon. My vote is Voyager, as someone who left Sync.
Oh really! That sucks. Is there a blog post or something somewhere?
A lot of us paid for the premium membership when the Sync dev made the app to support him. He promptly stopped updating it and we all kept waiting thinking he was going to do the same thing he had done on Reddit, popping in once in awhile to update with minimal communication. Nope. No updates or communications for about 18 months.
Yep I switched from Sync to Voyager because of this
I like thunder personally but it has been a little buggy for me lately.
LOL
I no longer have Twatter on my phone, best decision I made in years.
Deadnaming? Have some respect! It's called xhitter now...
Speaking of, I just finished my coffee and have to go send some xhits
Sounds like an Olive Garden shill. Subliminal marketing.
No that’s something like Nedrag Evilo Ta Tae
Is there an iphonedefaulsim community?
It’s called The United States.
In Japan, major apps, such as for some subway systems were iPhone only. In China a guy with an ancient iPhone called my S23 shit. In Vietnam women spend like 2 months wage on new iPhones to show off.
Ironically the US is the least bad about thinking iPhone are special.
"Blue bubble good, green bubble bad."
I suppose I was mistakenly conflating iMessage defaultism with iPhone defaultism.
Of mexico?
Officially it's the united states of the Gulf of America of Mexico, but we just call it Fucked, for short.
? im in statesia and the last time i used an apple product was the 90s
look the US is a authoritarian shithole these days, sure, but don't paint that i-brush shit for everyone.
haven't touched a apple product since the Quadra 950.
Maybe I should listen to fewer podcasts...
Alt text: Antenna pod using 46% of battery, notably no social media apps are present :P
46% for 42 minutes of background use is pretty wild though.
I've also had some high usage from antennapod, not sure if it is still happening. I've seen some threads online about but I'm not sure if it was fixed by now.
Upon closer inspection I realize that this is 46% of the drained battery — so 46% of 33%, which is only about 15% of my total battery life. On the whole that is worth it for me, I really like AntennaPod :)
Me too friend. My usage looks very similar. Only SM is Jeroba. Antenna pod is number 1, others are Spotify and Voice (audio books).
Any podcast recommendations?
In English, I personally listen to and can recommend 99% invisible, no such thing as a fish and stuff you should know.
99% invisible: started as a podcast explaining small design /architectural choices which you never noticed before but are everywhere and why they make such a difference (like marks on windows where it is a good place to enter a burning building with a ladder lift), but is now a bit broader than that. American made so a bit american focused as well.
No such thing as a fish: factbased talk with 4 hosts, most of them comedians, based around facts, from the team who created/creates? the questions for QI on the BBC. Always good fun to listen to.
Stuff you should know: two men explaining random stuff which you probably have heard of but don't know the fine details about, like how vaccines work, how gerrymandering works, ... American made so focus on America again, and quite heavy on adds, so keep that fast-forward-button of antennapod nearby! ( I've had antennapod configured to that pressing next song button skips 20 seconds, makes it very easy to skip commercials in the car or on bike.)
Those podcasts all are still active, I've also listened with pleasure to a couple of series which were just a number of stories:
Awesome! I'll check these out. BBC Sounds is great.
Here's my recommendation for unique immersive audio fiction:
The Walk
https://antennapod.org/deeplink/subscribe/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffeeds.megaphone.fm%2FMEGDEMO8033484295&title=The+Walk
I listen to a lot of basic news stuff like Rachel Maddow and Chris Hayes, not because those are particularly good, but just to feed my addiction to news...
One podcast I genuinely enjoy and find hilarious though, is If Books Could Kill with Michael and Peter. Sometimes I disagree with their takes, but I always find them hilarious. Website: https://www.ifbookspod.com/. 100% recommend :)
But it's 46% of their battery usage. If they're not using much battery this makes sense. Mine is 32% for 6 hr 11 minutes since my last full charge which is days ago.
Yep, this is it ↑↑↑ thanks!
The Great Breadstick Debate continues apace.
Oh good, podcasts and web browsing (to here, mainly).
Surrogate family?
Btw, is there a open source app to display a warning after a certain time of use?
Yes, Android has "Digital Wellbeing" but that spams me for "no play services found", because i removed them.
Digi paws
Kotor 2 all the way, hell yeah
chat am I cooked
(RVX is a custom YouTube apk without ads)
ha jokes on you I only access social media from a browser there fore I can't be addicted. No if you excuse me I am 3 days away from a 100 day streak on reddit.
Its an unusual day. Rocket for Lemmy only has 41 mins active and after this comment 42 minutes.
How often does he go to Olive Garden!?!?!
Nah, how broken is the Olive Garden app?
Today I was the whole day in bed with 39,5C teperature.
I'm a dolt. I was like "what kind of app is 'Screen'?"
That works.
Or have basic awareness of yourself and your surroundings, at the level of a squirrel maybe.
Either or.
I am good! Instagram is just for looking at tattoos, so I barely use it.
what's boost?
Lemmy client, used to be a reddit client too
Looks like the Olive garden app is a CIA bot
People who use social medias on websites (me):
I'm at work so no time for social media
so your work involves youtube?
Oh that's just from when I put on some background noise before passing out at midnight
ok.
Don't judge me!
i don't have social media but i browse lemmy a little too frequently for my liking so i started using the screen zen app. i limited my use to 2 hours per day, which can be broken into 15min intervals.
so when i try to launch sync a screen pops up and says "0/8, is this important?" and waits 5 seconds before i can say unlock, or don't unlock immediately. the result has been fantastic, i use it like 3 times a day for less than 15min each.
the thing about the timer is it doesn't stop if you tab out of the app so you either consume the allotted time in one sitting or it just goes away. which at first i thought was a bad thing but turns out being forced to use it in one go makes it feel more like a chore so you don't even wanna do it.
if you have an impulse problem with social media i think this type of app could help a lot.
Facepalm
Why wouldn't you have dark mode... Wtf it hurts my eyes
Why would he?
That's like asking why someone wouldn't eat a full bowl of mustard
I mean... You can if you want, but people will have questions
How is it comparable?
...hmmm, like there aren't regulations ahgainst this shit?...oh, you campaign against regulations for this shit?...wth?..
Regulations against apps using battery?
...yes, dum-dum...
Errr... Hmm.
https://www.simplymac.com/ios/if-ios-18-2-is-dramatically-draining-your-battery-change-these-settings
https://medium.com/pickme-engineering-blog/advanced-ios-battery-optimization-a-developers-guide-07c318ca75a9
https://support.apple.com/en-us/120745
Are these supposed to be those "regulations" that "you" (whoever that may be) campaigned against?
...these are citations of application abuse of battery power...
I have no idea what you're saying. Explain like I'm a dum-dum?