Joe Rogan defends Kimmel and tells conservatives supporting censorship: ‘Oh my God, you’re crazy’
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Nah, that would be when Ted Cruz made similar comments the other day.
Only because they are worried the next government will turn on them.
Well, not just that. They derive a great deal of success from ranting against the 'liberal agenda'. If all the vaguely left leaning voices are obviously silenced, then their own engagement goes down because there's no opposition voice to rant against. As ridiculous they look on a normal day, they look just utterly beyond crazy in a scenario where everyone but them are essentially gagged.
Their entire use to the party only has value until they do Crush opposition voices.
After they consolidate power they will not need any of these guys, they will be a liability, especially ones like Joe that try to think for themselves and disagree with the party line on some issues even while pretending to believe things like the president's lawsuits against the media being in good faith which, ha, he knows better, he's a cynical motherfucker.
That goes for almost everybody on the right however, they need a lot of people to take over, after they do they will not have any use for these same people. They should be careful what they wish for.
With all the bizarre shit that has happened since Charlie Kirk's shooting, and it's a new level of Bizarro World out there, the most bizarre may be that Rafael Edward Cruz was a voice of reason.
Now you have right wing gun folk saying the shot was impossible because they know the 30-06 would penetrate way more and do more massive damage than it did according to the report.
I've been wondering about that. They might have a point? Not saying that the shot was faked , but maybe something was off about the ammo. Idk, the 30.06 is a fairly good size round used to hunt moose and elk, seems like it could easily pass right through a person
30-06 is pretty much the same size round as 7.62 which is used in AK-47s. They will generally pass right through a person (Especially in soft tissue like the neck) but it’s a normal size round for shooting humans.
and there goes the internet trying to up each other of their pointless knowledge of Guns 'N Ammo completely irrelevant to the discussion and truly no one gives a shit.
Thats not wrong, but not entirely accurate, the bullet diameter is similar, but the casing size on the 30-06 is much larger and able to hold much more powered, thus giving a much higher muzzle energy. So it should do even more damage. But it also depends on the type of bullet used. FMJ vs jacked hole point vs plain soft lead.
https://www.foundryoutdoors.com/blogs/caliber-ballistics-comparison/30-06-springfield-vs-7-62x39mm-ammo-comparison-ballistics-info-chart
There is no physical way, even broken completely down, to fully put the murder weapon in the bag the alleged shooter was using to transport it.
It is literally physically impossible.
Is that legit criticism? What if the bullet hit the spine? It did seem to do quite a bit of damage, I only saw a 3 second video clip but the lesson I took from all of this is looking for a single well placed shot, do it with the hunting rifle and leave the fancy assault rifle at home.
There is no difference between rifles at that short distance. Single well placed shots are down to the shooter, not the rifle (unless the rifle is broken).
They need to get their stories straight. Fox News told them it was a miracle that his body blocked the bullet from potentially harming anyone else.
I am used to that part by now, I have found myself agreeing with Tucker Carlson and Marjorie Taylor green on several subjects. Both of which made better points than the Democratic politicians or influencers on some of them.
Obligatory fuck the unfunny Joe Rogan who ushered this fascist back in.
There will be nothing more unintentionally funny than buying a comedy club and putting a photo of himself next to comedy greats.
Elephant Graveyard sends his regards
You.. you made the crazy Joe.
also if you haven't seen it, I highly recommend this: How Comedy Was Destroyed by an Anti-Reality Doomsday Cult
Also, ironically, though it's a serious documentary, it is also funnier than Joe Rogan's standup.
Hell yeah.
I had a friend tell me years ago that he didn't think any comedian was actually funny. It helped open my eyes to the truth. They really aren't funny.
Good comedy is still out there, though. Watch any of the shows from PFFR, the art collective that made Xavier Renegade Angel to see for yourself.
Odds are if you're watching anything mainstream, it's probably watered-down shit for morons.
fuck this grift. this dude did more propoganda minutes for Maga than Charlie did, he doesn't give af about free speech beyond crying about how "censored" he is into the world's largest microphone
What's really wild is that his biggest concern is that the people doing the fascist thing could become the target of it later. There's no dawning of 'oh maybe the people doing this aren't so good' no, he's worried that the other people who have been warning that they are fascists might pursue them later with the fascist precedent they are putting in place.
Not necessarily. It's called arguing a conclusion to your audience in terms of premises they'll accept & understand.
The conclusion is "censorship is dangerous". The premise "fascists are pieces of shit" doesn't support that. That's a separate argument entirely.
Moreover, fascists are unlikely to accept that premise. Arguing that is a great way to make fascists stop listening, which people who don't know how to argue excel at.
You think so, Joe? You think the fascists might be crazy?
That is the face eating leopard after eating such a rich diet of fat disgusting overweight people that aren't hard to catch. Poor guy needs insulin shots now too.
should worry about picking up all kinds of diseases eating that filth raw.
and talk about macroplastics
it's weird how so many conservative women end up looking like bad drag queens, some other examples include loomer, guilfoyle and bezo's wife..... it's like they turn themselves into a hyper-caricature of femininity, with bad filler and too much pancake make-up slathered across their faces.
i guess the performative femininity plays well with it's performative masculinity/rural cosplay counterparts.
It has to do with money. It doesn't matter that it's good. It matters that it's expensive. Kinda like an ugly gold chain.
The average person pays like $90k for Mar-a-lago face now, it's definitely the new conspicuous consumerism. But with old fashion trends, you didn't permanently make yourself look like you needed an epi-pen
Oh god I need bleach for my eyes
yeah it's bad now.
think about when she's older. plastic doesn't age well.
Definitely want to get him tested for textoplasmosis now. The parasite may aid in its life cycle though because it makes the prey not afraid of cats that eat them.
Makes rats not afraid of the smell of cats that is but all mammals can get it not just rats and cats.
There could be rampant human infections of this that could be affecting the fear centers of our brains, long held theory of many of ours. I think the new South Park episode actually referenced it. The FCC douchebag got textoplasmosis after falling into a mountain of cat shit when he fell for the tricks the president was using to trick Satan into having an abortion of their demon hellspawn.
Leozempic for big cats.
"Oh no! The fascists I supported are being fascists!"
Really kept his head down for a few days first huh?
Joe Rogan is a drug-addled moron. Do not listen or engage with anything he says, even if you feel like you agree.
You got it all wrong. He's not drug addicted. He's brain damaged from his mma days. Apparently brain damage leads to conservative thoughts. Look at Fetterman.
There's a talk show video out there where the host is conservative (it's well known I just can't remember the name). Some guy is on the phone talking about how he's seen the light of the GOP and the host asks what changed, and he says he got kicked in the head by a horse.
The host looks a little shocked and says something like, okay moving on.
https://youtu.be/ZRc0by2vZ7k
Hahaha ya that was it. Priceless.
Looks like I mixed up the country/party but those for right people are all the same.
Could it maybe have been a subtle joke that made it past the call screeners?
It's possible, but I'd rather not believe that hah.
Honestly watching the video I think he s'was suppressing laughter
That's crazy man, have you ever tried DMT?
No but I was once awake for a week straight, the shadow people and porn hallucinations weren't fun.
That's the farthest from DMT one can go.
I have no experience with DMT so I wouldn't know.
For context, the experience is short and intense. Say 15 min.
Aight fair enough.
Diminishing capacity for empathy, tendency towards selfishness, quick to anger, no shame... checks out
He's a massive every-drug-under-the-sun addict
I don't like Rogan just as much as the next guy, but that's simply not true. He's an advocate for psychedelics and psychedelic assisted therapy as it pertains to ptsd and expanding consciousness in general. Is he a piece of shit? Absolutely! Is he a junky? Not even close
In the same way that an alcoholic is advocating for local breweries, sure.
Only psychedelic can actually help you.
Stimulants and pain killers all have their medical use. Alcohol is a great disinfectant.
Quit playing word games. Now hes not a "junky". F off with this shit. He's very obviously an ADDICT.
Just look at the guy, he's an absolutely bloated sack of shit that looks like he sleeps in a haunted house. He's obviously a heavy hormone abuser. All the guy talks about is drugs drugs drugs drugs drugs, and he's fucked up all the time in public and on his own show. Get a grip and stop apologizing for this drug addled lunatic
I think you might be extremely uninformed. If he was "every-drug-under-the-sun addict," he'd be strung out on opioids and meth. It's simply not true.
Not defending Rogan, but the other commenter is correct. Dude just smokes weed and does psychedelics.
You seem angry. Maybe think before speaking and you won't feel so stupid
I'm not angry, I'm exhausted by your conspicuously uninformed stupidity and word-games, and more than happy to let you know.
😘
It's not really that we agree with him. It's that his listeners get really annoying and this may help to settle them down about this.
Careful Joe. That's sounding dangerously unconservative, and you know what the crazy conservative gun people do to those conservative voices that aren't conservative enough for them.
Fucking dopes all of them. Joe Rogan and all his cocksucking fans. Fucking dipshits the lot of them.
Saw only one of his episodes, interviewing AJ. Didn't seem dumb, why all the hate?
Because he's a misogynist who uncritically repeats white nationalist talking points when he has them on his show to preach about how the demon-rats are communists funded by George Soros?
Didn't he defend comedians who were getting cancelled for jokes by the left too, like Chappel? What's the surprise here? Ideological consistency does seem rare these days and "doing one thing while bitching when that same thing is done to you" is quite en vogue, and nobody acknowledges that the systems we put in place to control our opposition will be turned on us the instant they have a chance, but this (defending kimmel for jokes regardless of the politics) seems in line with what Rogan has always said afaik.
He helped enable the rise of the Alt Right by giving them serious air time.
Also, Dave Chappelle never got "cancelled". He's still getting Netflix specials and still booking shows. For some reason, people will pay him to call them poor.
Having people write critical articles about someone isn't the same as getting "cancelled".
If simply giving the alt-right a platform causes them to become more popular in society, that means there are deeper issues, giving them a platform isn't the real issue.
The real issue is that society is in a state where they are willing to support alt-right.
I mean, you identified the surprise - consistent ideology. That's not generally something anyone could accuse the right of lately.
"Can you believe Biden said that? That means he's too old to be president!"
"Uh, Trump said that"
"Oh, nevermind then"
Ideological consistency, my ass.
more like he defended Chappelle who rightfully received criticism, but never lost any work, money, or influence as a result.
He's typically silent on the matter. So what's surprising is he actually spoke up for once.
Plausible deniabiliity. That's all
Well his comedian friends would disown him if he didnt and I genuinely think he still takes pride in his work.
I dont like Rogans politics but I actually respect him as a comic. I dont love his material, but in the same way that Katt Williams isnt writing jokes for suburban white folks, Amy Schumer is writing jokes for wine moms and woo girls. I can respect the joke writing and act even if it doesnt resonate. I think he is a good (not great) comic and probably still cares greatly about it.
Yeah I'm not a fan or anything but professionally he's been pretty consistent with his humor. I remember him calling out Carlos Mencia for stealing other (smaller comedians) material.
It was apparently pretty true so it really made Rogan look like a good dude, standing up for his peers against someone who was really starting to blow up (by stealing their material).
When did Chappel get cancelled?
And Rogan's whole confusing Trump with Biden thing proves he doesn't care about ideological consistency.
Transphobic jokes in his material. Particulary netflix specials.
Unless you mean sucessfully cancelled.
He wasn't cancelled, he just changed his audience.
Joe should be much more afraid of the next Groyper aiming for him. Conveniently located in Texas.
So uh, the groyper narrative is now about as solid as the trans narrative. Everything's pointing to the guy growing up in a conservative household and disagreeing with his family and all the hate.
Groypers have been threatening Trump, Kirk and Shapiro since 2019.
Podcasters need to look anti-government, regardless of the ideology of the government.
Oh for sure, but the "next Groyper" thing is a bit misleading because the Kirk shooter likely wasn't one.
I wouldn't be surprised if they one day do shoot someone significant though.
Like white nationalists aren't randomly murdering people every day of the week
They are, just not other white nationalists usually :(
Source?
My source is that it’s politically convenient and doesn’t challenge my own identity for me to believe this.
Well the whole "had enough of this hatred" text he sent to his mtf transitioning girlfriend for one?
No?
Too little too late, Joe.
Womp womp
An important reminder is that Kimmel's monologue did not say anything slightly negative about Charlie Kirk's demonic zionazi and replacement theorgy genocidal supremacism. He only made fun of Trump for interviews in which he was asked about any sympathy he had for his dead dear friend, getting deflect-weaved into "we're building the bestest ballroom in the white house now".
He got in trouble for saying that Kirk was killed by his own side.
He didn't even say that though, this is driving me insane, he said that Trump and them were doing everything they could to pin the blame on the left and score political points from it, which is undeniable. He didn't say anything about who he actually thought the shooter was.
He literally said that the right is "desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them".
Which is not saying that the killer was one of them.
I see, you could actually interpret it either way.
How do you interpret it any way other than what it says? You are making an assumption if you interpret it differently than what he clearly stated.
I read it as him saying that the shooter was unquestionably right wing, which is different than saying that the right wing is desperate to prove that it's anyone else.
He implied it but he straight up was factually saying they're trying real hard to show it wasn't one of their guys. It definitely wasn't any of the people MAGA wanted to pin it on.
Turns out it was some kind of apolitical zoomer whose friends were personally affected by Kirk's rhetoric likely because the problem with living in the most conservative US state is that a lot of people around you are probably repeating the vitriol.
There's still a decent good case to be made that MAGA bullied this kid into killing Kirk by threatening people he loves.
"look what you made me do"
Eyeroll
He lives in Utah. My uncle who had parkinsons would watch fox news all day and thought trans ISIS was going to invade his house in 2019. I can't imagine how difficult it is for anyone othered by these media cartels is in states where people are heavily enthralled.
By that logic all maga should be in trouble for saying it was a dem
There should be consequences for lying??? For GOP??? What are you, 12?
The 2 candidates are Bill Ackman or Nick Fuentes "influence". That Carr, Trump, Sinclair need to protect one of those 2 shows how corrupt democracy is.
Next election needs to promise to nationalize with no compensation all zionazi media, zeroing out all directors and exectutives wealth, decitizenize any politician pledging allegiance to Israel, zeroing out all of their donors, and nationalize defense and oil industry.
I wonder if Rogan realizes that he's part of the reason we've ended up here?
About as much as a child who shit their pants and then points at another kid saying they smell like shit.
Like most rich ass conservatives, he only cared about advancing his bank account. He knew his audience and double downed. He know he won't lose those listeners. He could fuck Hilary Clinton tomorrow and they would still celebrate it.
Well, no he didn't. Not really. I haven't heard it (and don't intend to) but according to the quotes in this article he didn't do that at all.
If, if, if. Wouldn't want to risk upsetting anyone would you?
Yep this is just hedging his bets and the media sainwashing him, as they're required to do for all right wing personalities
Joe has always been good at knowing which side of the fence to temporarily come off of.
He's always one DMT hit from emptying his brains out on the floor and fishing for a different opinion.
Hey don’t bring DMT into this man
Joe is just what happens when an anti-establishment nut becomes the establishment.
Hey, this walking talking cyst finally got something right.
Even a stopped clock tells the right time twice a day...
The most useful of idiots.
Joe Rogan you dumb fuck.....you helped get the orange turd elected!
Rogan is spineless. Tells the people supporting Trump and his policies that they are crazy but doesn’t have the balls to actually say anything negative about Trump.
Rogan is a heavy cannabis and psychedelics user in Texas where they’re pushing to outlaw even Delta8 THC. He’s in a situation where he doesn’t want to leave for a legal jurisdiction, and could be made an example at any time. The guy could absolutely be singled out: at best he could be made to leave Texas, and at worst be jailed for his cannabis use and possession.
They don’t do that to rich people.
Until it's politically valuable to do so.
Nobody should be getting locked up over weed. That's so fucked. Texas might as well be Afghanistan
Joe faces the same issue that Tucker does.
Both have substantial influence, and in Tucker's case substantial wealth.
Given this, I'll borrow a term from the Right to spell it out: We need more than virtue signaling.
Substantial harm requires something more than some face-turn tease.
As a thought experiment, put aside the well deserved hate you might have for Joe, and think about what harm he could inflict on the cult, if he got it in his head to do so.
Rogan is valued at $250M, 5X Fuckhead Carlson.
And not long ago, he will made a living forcing people to eat bugs.
Forcing is a little strong of a word there. Even he later said, and probably helped a few folks realize how shit america is, that it was horrible what people would do for the prize money.
Besides, eating bugs isn't a terrible thing. I'd be more concerned about the elk penises, honestly.
Rogan has made inexplicable wealth from his show.
I miss when this guy just hosted a funny show that made people eat bugs for money.
Yes, he was much more tolerable and even likeable when he was mostly just the Fear Factor guy.
I like to pretend that his career ended with News Radio.
I like to imagine an alternate time line where he befriended Andy Dick and died instead of Phil Hartman.
Yeah, who could have ever guessed there would be so many morons making Joe the repair guy such a pain in pop culture's ass.
He's not the worst person from that show...
Yeah but who the hell cares about Andy Dick these days?
Don't give this guy any visibility, downvote the thread and upvote other ones.
Fuck you Joe
They always have been you fucking idiot, even when you became more like them.
No shit, Toe Rogaine, really?
https://clickhole.com/heartbreaking-the-worst-person-you-know-just-made-a-gr-1825121606/
Rogan is a former comedian. Of course he’s going to defend fellow comedians. This should not be surprising to people!
True. But I'm still surprised at how many not-completely-unhinged opinions Joe Rogan has. Mind you, he's still far from being a sane person, but I always just assumed he was a differently flavored Alex Jones.
I’d say he’s more gullible than unhinged. He basically believes every guest who comes on his show, even if they just contradicted the previous guest. It’s very strange!
Keyword former He's subconsiously defending a better version of his younger self
Horseshoe theory??
Good job Joe, now if only you didn't credulously believe every bad faith fascist narritive from the last 10 years.
"Anyways, gotta get back to saying slurs at the mothership!"