Caught because he told someone and they snitched, bummer. Please be mindful that he is still only an alleged killer, and has not yet been put on trial for his charges. Innocent until proven guilty.
I like to think if I shot a right wing extremist troll, my dad would help me lay low instead of turning me in. But my dad is an aging hippy, not a maga hat worm brain.
So he's dad basically just sent him to die... I am almost certain they will be looking for death penalty and best case scenario it's a life imprisonment. That seems like a great dad :D
The father then called a youth pastor, who is also a U.S. Marshals task force officer. The officer advised the father to have Robinson stay in place. This information was then conveyed to the FBI.
Priests are mandated report crimes outside of confession.
I'm also guessing "pastor" doesn't mean "seminary trained, regular background checks, psychologically evaluated, tested for competence, and examined by others to discern call in a denomination that requires pastors act like mandatory reporters" but instead means "Bubba says the Bible good and hates the right folks."
Now that he’s been identified as a Christian, I suspect that this will just be a big misunderstanding. A few hail Mary’s, a quick confession, and he’ll be absolved.
Those sound like awesome people to have in our nation's military. Why did trump just get rid of all these fine soldiers? Why does trump want a weak US military but denying it its best super soldiers?
They’ll completely ignore that and focus on the trans and other stuff they “found” engraved on the casings at the scene. This is now “trans people are violent, trans supporters are violent.” And that will be the narrative
The marks on the casings have been released and there are zero references to anything trans. It was a lie that they will keep drip feeding their followers, but it literally does not exist.
Tell that to all the innocent law enforcement who looked at that last casing and became gay! How are they supposed to break this news to their wives and children?? Seriously, do they have to actually stop abusing them while they say it, or can they piecemeal it between blows? And what if they're drunk?? Does that mean they can't properly acknowledge to their family that they're gay and become double gay????
The "transgender ideology" turned out to be the maker's marks from the manufacturer. I'm wondering whether I ought to be supporting this trans ammo company!
A tragedy really, why couldn't he be a black drag queen or some trans person, or at the very least gay in like a flashy and obvious way? At some point the good, honest people of America might start questioning who is actually the problem...
The Church of Christ (Joseph Smith) gave birth to Latter Day Saint denominations, the largest of which being the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
The lutheran and catholic church are pretty buddy-buddy here in Germany. They obviously don't see eye to eye on many things, but they consider each other Christian enough to hold services together every year.
Don't think they'd invite the mormons even if those had significant numbers here. Might be wrong, though.
Nah, unless you want to call muslims christians as well. Once you start modifying your deity, like christians did to the jewish god, or muslims did about jesus being only a prophet, you're a new religion. I'd say the same for when you change the basics of how you are saved (so I'd say that catholics and protestants are wildly different, seeing as catholics need confession and last rites to be forgiven or go to purgatory). Mormons hold that jesus and satan are brothers, that you need to go proselytize for a certain period of time, that there are planets instead of heaven (I guess heavenly bodies if we want to play with wording, whatever), etc.
Contrast that with the difference between methodists and baptists, or presbyterians and lutherans, where basically it's all window dressing. You might get some proscriptions, like no dancing or drinking for baptists, but fundamentally the beliefs don't change.
Yeah, I was raised Catholic, which is basically polytheism, imo (I was taught to pray to St. Christopher for lost things and to St. Jude for cancer patients, asking them to talk to Yahweh for me, but I was also taught to pray directly to Mary, which nudges it over the line for me- that’s not even addressing the trinity issue), and that’s definitely Christian. I’ve heard some Baptists say it isn’t, but they’re just wrong and spreading antipapist propaganda, even if unintentionally.
I was also taught that there are three extant sects of Christianity: Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, and Protestantism (edit: not sure where Coptic Christians fell, but I suspect Orthodox). Jehovah’s Witness and Mormons are technically a type of Protestant (at least according to the Catholic Church), though I get how they could feel separate (and separate from each other). Quakers, Shakers, and Unitarians are also Protestants and also feel like their own thing, but in a very different way.
Lutheran, Episcopalian, and Catholic church services/masses all feel basically the same to me, except for transubstantiation of the Eucharist, which Protestants by and large don’t believe in.
Muslims don't believe Jesus was the son of god. Therefore, they're not Christians. Mormons do, therefore they are Christians. That they add more stuff in later doesn't change that fact.
Unless you insist on the Trinity doctrine being an essential definition of Christianity (which I think is dumb and lacks historical context), then Mormons are a branch of Christianity.
Mind you, there are tons of MAGA Christians who do take that stance.
Mormons have their own book which is basically fan-fic of the bible and new testament. So it's kinda like if you met someone who calls themselves a Trekkie, but they've never seen any of the shows and have only read fan-fic. Would a Trekkie accept them as one of their own?
Mormons read the Bible. They'd be Trek super-fans who think their favorite fic-writer is better than Roddenberry, but they would have watched ToS and NG at least.
Source: raised cultist. Have a Mormon "quad" of all the holy texts somewhere in storage.
Kinda, this is for the super duper extra good double stampies no erasies Mormons. When they die, they get to super Saiyan transform into a god-heir right up there with Jesus and eventually get their own planet to rule over like their god rules here.
And I'm only being a little flippant, Exaltation is a wacky belief.
This is unequivocally blasphemy of the highest order. If more people knew about this, Mormons would be viewed nearly as strangely as jehova’s witnesses
Now watch as the narrative becomes that he turned into a hateful and dangerous leftist by being indoctrinated at university, even though he comes from a good, god loving family.
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There is some leftist dissent but it is overwhelmingly right wingers positing the narrative that you propose (plus discord/transgender friends/never trump republicans)
Right now it's "I'm waiting for all the facts", which is very similar to "I need more context" comments during videos of police brutality. It's denial framed as reservation.
White kid from conservative family shoots conservative personality.
conservatives threaten black schools
a wave of prominent conservatives talking about WAR WERE DECLARED!!
random conservatives walking around on the anniversary of 9/11 making threats against "the Democrats" while looking at innocent people
conservative lizards insinuating "the left's reaction" is somehow a nefarious development a couple months after they made fun of a governor being assassinated, which was preceded by conservatives making fun of the attack on Pelosi.
Robinson at the [family] dinner said “Kirk was full of hate and spreading hate,” according to the relative’s account related by [Utah Governor Spencer] Cox.
We've already seen the playbook, though. His race only matters if he's not white. His sexuality only matters if it's not heterosexual. His gender only matters if he's trans. His religion only matters if it's not Christian. His politics only matter if he's not Republican. Source: Last summer's attempted assassination attempt against Trump.
But honestly, none of that matters. Most people did not reason themselves into their opinion on this matter (minds were made up before there was any evidence or credible suspect at all), and most of the time you cannot reason people out of an opinion if they did not reason themselves into it. Which sucks. But also, this applies to us all, so hopefully most of us are keeping that in mind.
Okay even assuming christianity is even real, why can't a black person "find jesus"? Pretty sure racism isn't part of scripture...
Oh yea that's right, they are just cosplaying as christians, not real christians.
Ironically, they would look better if they just maintained the "death penalty" stance and omit the "jesus" bullshit. At least then it wouldn't be racist.
Oh yea that's right, they are just cosplaying as christians, not real christians.
No true christian. Lmao. Let's not excuse people based on fallacy.
Some people are good. Some people are christian. This doesn't add up to 'good people are christian'. Most christians are not good people. Most people aren't good people, ffs.
It's like saying no real human would commit/condone genocide, yet here we are in a world full of genocides.
I think it's interesting to see the news media go back to naming and focusing on shooters. When big school shootings began to happen they talked all about the shooters and what could have led them to do what they did. That accidentally became a great incentive for copycats because many were outcasts wanting similar infamy and their stories to be told.
Then over the years most news media tried to just focus on the victims and communities impacted. Shootings still happen, but how often do you hear the shooter named on the news? Even for major events like the trump assassination attempts they didn't really focus a lot on who the shooters were.
It seems that recent shooters are getting a lot more attention again. All it takes is to assassinate someone and get away just long enough to force them to name your and show your face, messages you left on the scene etc. This runs the risk of starting a whole new copycat trend and I think we're seeing that starting here
Yeah, students didn't here and generally don't do anything to justifiably put themselves in the crosshairs. Politicians, on the other hand, make enemies like it's their job. I prefer no violence. I prefer direct to indirect consequences. Usually we can't get everything we want.
Sorry guys hate to say this but Tyler Robinson was with me kayaking in Pennsylvania on Sept. 10 around 2-3pm I have or can come up with evidence to corroborate this.
I was sure it was you two at the time but didn't want to intrude by paddling over to say hello. It was at that one spot, you know the place, name escapes me but it's where I definitely saw you both.
Funny thing. I was in a helicopter at that exact place and time looking down at all three of you. From up there, I could see all the way across you know, towards the great uh those things. It was amazing and very memorable, for the exact time and exact day the alibi was required
I just happened to be operating a government spy satellite watching your helicopter, as one does, while you were watching the three of them! I can confirm that all four of these people were at the specified place at the specified time doing the specified activities.
That will probably set them off even more. I can already here the exclamations about how the radical left is brainwashing good, young, Christian men into doing their dirty work.
He made some racist and homophobic comments when he was very young, before he ever became a revolutionary (far right assholes love to bring this up) but he eventually preached a message of unity (something the aforementioned assholes always conveniently leave out)
"Hey Fascist! Catch! ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️" is a reference to throwing a Strategem Ball from the game Helldivers 2 (in this case, it spawns the largest explosion players have easy access to) and the phrase "hey catch" is a community meme in that context.
Dude was a real memelord, is what I'm saying. Nice aim, too.
Nah that irony is why it's included - the game is very openly anti-fascist, and the community (tho it ofc has it's own weirdos) is the same. Lots of "are we the baddies" memes (right now especially with the gloom expedition arc)
Hey there friend, I know bella ciao is Italian for bye beautiful in English but I don’t get any references. Could I ask you for a bit of explanation what you mean or a point in the correct direction?
he put that stuff on his bullets for some reason and he's killed someone who he described as spreading hate. He's an angry Republican. His message to the right is that he is Antifascist and not a liberal
Still not sure wtf they were talking about with "trans ideology"...
All this said, I'm happy to see the left is finally sacking up. I'm actually glad its not just a right-wing nut. Its (supposedly) a socially responsible kid who saw the crap that was happening in his country and found the willpower to do something about it.
All of this said, I don't think he actually did it. I'm relatively sure he's being framed.
The "trans ideology" was "TRN", a marking engraved on the casing by the ammo manufacturer, Turan Ammo.
A Wall Street Journal report, citing an ATF bulletin, had previously said the casings were “engraved with expressions of transgender and antifascist ideology.” The purported transgender symbols were later understood to relate to markings identifying the manufacturer.
True, but it's important to note that the misinformation they fell for was from AP, which ALL of the billionaire-owned media quote and consider neutral and professional beyond reproach.
Might as hell burn the whole thing down and start over 😮💨
People of any political leaning should be anti-fascist, to be honest. I think the point is that he was brought up with 'republican values' and taught how to use guns as a child.
People of any political leaning should be anti-fascist
Yup. Fascism is such an extreme-right ideology that you're no longer leaning anywhere, you're blindly stumbling off the hateful edge of sanity and coherence.
republican values
Which is just pure fascism and has been for several years..
Fucking furries doing political assassinations, this is why we were supposed to stop mocking them. That and that it's in bad taste and we'd like the internet to stay up.
If everything presented is reasonably true yeah this is someone similar to the guy who missed Trump. The right wing primed him for violence and trained him with firearms and probably taught him that guns are how we protect against tyranny. Then he started moving left and suddenly saw that the right is moving us towards tyranny.
The trump shooter was disillusioned and angry he'd been tricked. I'm curious what this man has to say but it sounds like he may have met some of the people the right is preaching against and decided to kill a hate merchant.
Just a reminder that the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Forces in Europe in charge of beating the Nazis and other fascists was later the Republican President of the United States, among whose goals was preventing the spread of communism. You don’t need to be leftist to hate fascists.
Nice of these MAGA parents to train super competent Antifa super soldiers lol. He probably realized how brainwashed his family was. It’s got to be super crazy and scary for a kid to start critically thinking and realize you’re family is in some kind of brainwashed maga trance
The right wing may as well be giving me blowjobs today, id actually enjoy it less than the dopamine hits I'm getting on x today. beyond orgasmic watching their mental gymnastics and writing their alt facts trying to cope with reality
What's wrong with teaching kids how to use guns early? It's better than them playing with guns they find in the shelf and end up shooting themselves or their siblings.
The problem is always the same: white supremacy. Every mass shooter has come from that, maybe try to curb that shit before you try throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks?
Brother, it's already normalized. Acting like keeping kids ignorant will stop gun violence is a fairytale dream. Literally every person who takes a gun class gets drilled through all of it to NEVER point it at anyone. It's not just about learning how to use them, it's about how to be safe with them. Do you also think teaching a kid defensive driving before they can drive is useless?
Well, there's 400 million guns in all of the US and about 1/3rd of all households on the US have a gun on them. Keeping kids ignorant about guns when 1/3rd of them have one at their homes (not owned by them, mind you) is a recipe for accidents.
It is almost like we should do something about this.... I know, I know banning only works for Trans, Gays, Abortions, DEI, Woke, Mail in ballots, Refugees, Immigrants, Books, Drag Queens, Words, etc.
Tell me your brilliant plan about how to get rid of 400 million weapons and I'll listen to it, because the people who need to give up their guns won't sell them on buybacks.
Feels like this is the same logic that is used to ban sex education - they shouldn’t have sex until marriage so you shouldn’t teach them about it. I accept that kids will have access to fully loaded genitals, so I want them to understand and respect the consequences and to be able to act responsibly.
As much as I would like firearm access to be restricted and regulated, I accept that in the world we live in they’re not going anywhere, anytime soon. I also think alcohol is deadly, both for the consumer and the people around them, but I’d rather teach my kid to drink responsibly than send them off to college unprepared; I’ve seen too many sheltered kids go fucking crazy once they’re out from their parent’s thumb.
I’ve always felt that harm reduction was an admirable thing. Accept and work with human nature instead of against it. I don’t want people shooting up heroin, but I support giving away free, clean needles to prevent even worse outcomes. Doesn’t mean I endorse or encourage the activity.
Firearm restrictions already exist and work. We just need better ones. You know when you need a regulation? When it has become a problem. Clearly losing 2,500 children and 48,000 adults in one year to guns is a sign something must be done. But clearly we need to deal with trans people in our restrooms!
I am a big fan of thinking around issues so I am open to any ideas that can benefit both parties. There will always be a loser, the devil in the details is minimizing this for the greater good.
Totally agree with harm reduction. Believe it or not there are lots of good solutions to our problems especially if you are willing to entertain harm reduction. We can solve drug addiction, homelessness, gun violence, most crime, incarceration, hell just about everything.
I'm not saying it's too big of a problem, I'm asking what kind of idea you have. Because I would entertain any idea that doesn't result in the biggest string of police brutality incidents ever recorded in history, or is as effective on preventing cancer as a cigarrete filter.
Oh sure, we have thought up several ways. The best in my opinion is to require a combination of psych exams yearly, insurance, and a tax penalty for having more than x many.
This would use our existing system to deal with the problem monetarily.
As far as ending the proliferation this can be accomplished by allowing people to sue manufactures for producing unsafe products. There is no other tool responsible for thousand of child deaths a year and if there was and they didn't stop they would be sued out of existence.
Modern technology can also build a smart gun that won't kill its owner, family members, etc. An Igun if you will. The fact that we don't already have this shows that proper regulations have not been applied.
I have thought of tons of ways to deal with this for sure. It really is not hard, but people are very resistant to even logical solutions.
Nothing wrong with teaching kids to use guns early but a lot of America has a cultural fetish for firearms and it's important not to pass that to your kids
The "fetish for firearms" comes from not treating firearms like tools, and that's something actual good teachers would do a lot better than ammosexual parents.
This doesn't seem like a very Starmer thing to say, or is the joke here that the Parody_PM account is saying things our PM might say if he were a sane man who understood humour, and didn't get off on genocide and fascism?
Just wondering is there evidence his family are republicans I tried looking it up but can’t find anything other than his dad being a sheriff or something
Is that so? Or is that just a correlation?
So, ultra-conservatives being LGBTQ haters and incidentally also having a high probability of being Christian?
That would put the implied causality in question.
I personally don't like such generalizations. That's what the right-wing agitators are doing and I really don't want to decent to such a level myself.
Surely that'd depend on the Muslim? Like, Islam is a very large religion and religious people rarely follow or consider valid all their stated rules to the letter, and disagree with eachother over the interpretation of those they do. I don't know what exactly the Koran says on the matter, but given the terminology and understanding around gender (and available technology for transition) has changed a fair bit since the time it was written, I'd be fairly surprised if it said anything as clear as "you must not be trans" that didn't leave room for interpretation and disagreement.
Yeah, that part doesn't make sense.
And aren't Latinos the standard scapegoats in the US?
Projecting hate on Muslim foreigners I would consider to be more a European thing?
No, you don't get it. That's how strong the left-wing mind control is! All they need is one semester to turn your kid into a homicidal gay trans communist!
I honestly thought this was a new copypasta was about to upvote it before I realized I just saw a screenshot of this exact comment elsewhere in the thread.
Caught because he told someone and they snitched, bummer. Please be mindful that he is still only an alleged killer, and has not yet been put on trial for his charges. Innocent until proven guilty.
apparently his republican dad saw the circulating photos and asked his son to turn himself in. I doubt it had anything to do with the $100k reward
I like to think if I shot a right wing extremist troll, my dad would help me lay low instead of turning me in. But my dad is an aging hippy, not a maga hat worm brain.
never underestimate republican selfishness and hypocrisy.
If I did that, my brother would snitch on me so quick.
Then our whole family ends up in gitmo (we're not white), but hey, congrats on being a douchbag, big bro. Now we can all suffer together.
Id tell my son to get the fuck out of the country as soon as possible. Then call me from wherever he ends up.
It'd probably be better for them not to call. If you're trying to hide, don't give them information on where you are.
I would think the dad doesn't really give a toss about politics and just didn't want to turn on the news and see his son to die in a police shootout.
the dad wanted that 100k.
If recent events are anything to go by, the dad ain't ever getting that 100k.
Holy shit that's fucked up. Man basically just killed his own child (or encouraged his child to kill himself) in exchange for $100k.
We all know the story of Abraham....
Quite common tbh, are there that many caring parents anymore
So he's dad basically just sent him to die... I am almost certain they will be looking for death penalty and best case scenario it's a life imprisonment. That seems like a great dad :D
Priests are mandated report crimes outside of confession.
So what? Priests and pastors are different things.
I'm also guessing "pastor" doesn't mean "seminary trained, regular background checks, psychologically evaluated, tested for competence, and examined by others to discern call in a denomination that requires pastors act like mandatory reporters" but instead means "Bubba says the Bible good and hates the right folks."
This is Utah, are they not Mormons?
In Mormonism, all adult men have the priesthood.
Yeah this is America, protestants rarely bother with such frivolous "qualifications" here
just so its clear, the father and the "priest" were not the same person.
True, this could all be a misunderstanding, and the real hero is still at large. 🫰
There's footage of him, too. Sadly.
Of him taking the shot ? Or of him on campus ?
Of him climbing down from the building then walking away from the scene
Of someone. How is it confirmed that it's him?
does that footage have his face in it? or even show what he was wearing very well? Does the person in the footage have 6 fingers?
What's wrong with having 6 fingers, you got something against people with polydactyly?
Only if they killed Inigo's father.
Now that he’s been identified as a Christian, I suspect that this will just be a big misunderstanding. A few hail Mary’s, a quick confession, and he’ll be absolved.
I heard he was so trans that he transitioned from female to male by himself in utero.
You elicited the first giddy internet laugh I’ve had in ages
In utero hormones, what will they think of next?
Those sound like awesome people to have in our nation's military. Why did trump just get rid of all these fine soldiers? Why does trump want a weak US military but denying it its best super soldiers?
They’ll completely ignore that and focus on the trans and other stuff they “found” engraved on the casings at the scene. This is now “trans people are violent, trans supporters are violent.” And that will be the narrative
The marks on the casings have been released and there are zero references to anything trans. It was a lie that they will keep drip feeding their followers, but it literally does not exist.
Tell that to all the innocent law enforcement who looked at that last casing and became gay! How are they supposed to break this news to their wives and children?? Seriously, do they have to actually stop abusing them while they say it, or can they piecemeal it between blows? And what if they're drunk?? Does that mean they can't properly acknowledge to their family that they're gay and become double gay????
Those damn gays and their gay spores! How are straight people supposed to be in love anymore!?
Apparently the trans thing was "TRN" which is an abbreviation for the ammo manufacturer lmao
We really didn't expect the ammosexuals to know about ammo manufacturers, did we?
Well obviously not
The "transgender ideology" turned out to be the maker's marks from the manufacturer. I'm wondering whether I ought to be supporting this trans ammo company!
A tragedy really, why couldn't he be a black drag queen or some trans person, or at the very least gay in like a flashy and obvious way? At some point the good, honest people of America might start questioning who is actually the problem...
/s just in case it wasn't obvious.
Is he Christian? I thought I read his family was Mormon.
Mormons are Christians.
All sects tend to consider other sects heresy.
The Church of Christ (Joseph Smith) gave birth to Latter Day Saint denominations, the largest of which being the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints.
They are Christians.
Ooh, you used "Lmfao" like Tyler, does that mean you're another transagender radical‽‽‽
The lutheran and catholic church are pretty buddy-buddy here in Germany. They obviously don't see eye to eye on many things, but they consider each other Christian enough to hold services together every year.
Don't think they'd invite the mormons even if those had significant numbers here. Might be wrong, though.
they are branches of Christianity, they arnt a seperate religion, like judiasim or ISLAM.
Nah, unless you want to call muslims christians as well. Once you start modifying your deity, like christians did to the jewish god, or muslims did about jesus being only a prophet, you're a new religion. I'd say the same for when you change the basics of how you are saved (so I'd say that catholics and protestants are wildly different, seeing as catholics need confession and last rites to be forgiven or go to purgatory). Mormons hold that jesus and satan are brothers, that you need to go proselytize for a certain period of time, that there are planets instead of heaven (I guess heavenly bodies if we want to play with wording, whatever), etc.
Contrast that with the difference between methodists and baptists, or presbyterians and lutherans, where basically it's all window dressing. You might get some proscriptions, like no dancing or drinking for baptists, but fundamentally the beliefs don't change.
Mormons see Jesus as the Messiah, their lord and savior. They have an additional prophet, but they are Christian because Christ is their savior.
Yeah, I was raised Catholic, which is basically polytheism, imo (I was taught to pray to St. Christopher for lost things and to St. Jude for cancer patients, asking them to talk to Yahweh for me, but I was also taught to pray directly to Mary, which nudges it over the line for me- that’s not even addressing the trinity issue), and that’s definitely Christian. I’ve heard some Baptists say it isn’t, but they’re just wrong and spreading antipapist propaganda, even if unintentionally.
I was also taught that there are three extant sects of Christianity: Catholicism, Orthodox Christianity, and Protestantism (edit: not sure where Coptic Christians fell, but I suspect Orthodox). Jehovah’s Witness and Mormons are technically a type of Protestant (at least according to the Catholic Church), though I get how they could feel separate (and separate from each other). Quakers, Shakers, and Unitarians are also Protestants and also feel like their own thing, but in a very different way.
Lutheran, Episcopalian, and Catholic church services/masses all feel basically the same to me, except for transubstantiation of the Eucharist, which Protestants by and large don’t believe in.
They literally consider themselves Christians.
Muslims don't believe Jesus was the son of god. Therefore, they're not Christians. Mormons do, therefore they are Christians. That they add more stuff in later doesn't change that fact.
People lump Mormons in with Christians because they are 2/3 the same.
Unless you insist on the Trinity doctrine being an essential definition of Christianity (which I think is dumb and lacks historical context), then Mormons are a branch of Christianity.
Mind you, there are tons of MAGA Christians who do take that stance.
What makes you think that Mormons aren't Christians?
Mormons have their own book which is basically fan-fic of the bible and new testament. So it's kinda like if you met someone who calls themselves a Trekkie, but they've never seen any of the shows and have only read fan-fic. Would a Trekkie accept them as one of their own?
Mormons read the Bible. They'd be Trek super-fans who think their favorite fic-writer is better than Roddenberry, but they would have watched ToS and NG at least.
Source: raised cultist. Have a Mormon "quad" of all the holy texts somewhere in storage.
Are you saying that Mormons don't follow the Bible? Because that's simply not true. They added to it.
And how come the new testament isn't "fan fic" of the torah?
They're polytheistic for one, and think they can become their own god of a planet if they're 'good' enough.
That sounds kinda similar to catholic saints ...
Wait, I thought it was heaven, men’s heaven, men’s super heaven, and men’s super duper heaven. You’re telling me there’s a super *de duper heaven?
*Ottocorect succ
Kinda, this is for the super duper extra good double stampies no erasies Mormons. When they die, they get to super Saiyan transform into a god-heir right up there with Jesus and eventually get their own planet to rule over like their god rules here.
And I'm only being a little flippant, Exaltation is a wacky belief.
This is unequivocally blasphemy of the highest order. If more people knew about this, Mormons would be viewed nearly as strangely as jehova’s witnesses
Because they aren't.
They have this part in their scripture where they say that all of Christianity's creeds and tenets are an abomination.
It's video games or probably masturbation that made him crazy! /s
Don't be absurd! It's the Rap music and trans pheromone mind control from chemtrails!
Well if the pedophile cultist christians are OK with it, then I guess he's forgiven, right?
“Let’s talk about mental health”
Now watch as the narrative becomes that he turned into a hateful and dangerous leftist by being indoctrinated at university, even though he comes from a good, god loving family.
Already there on right wing discussion sites
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There is some leftist dissent but it is overwhelmingly right wingers positing the narrative that you propose (plus discord/transgender friends/never trump republicans)
They are so fucking predictable, it's actually infuriating. We are losing to this FFS.
"He is ANTIFA" tells me so much about the person posting. They think that kid is an immortal being who hasn't aged since he lived in 1930s Germany.
I always find it amusing that they hate Antifa, but can't connect the dots to realize that makes them the fascists.
My only response to “Antifa” is to continually ask “Anti-…fa-what?”
Cognitive dissonance is a helluva drug
if they actually knew what antifa was it wouldn't be so frustrating to listen to.
He only attended 1 semester and dropped out
Record speed indoctrination.
I breathed while driving by a university, next thing I knew I was a full fledged communist.
jingle
Wait wasnt I wearing red before? Oh well, death to Reds!!!!
Right now it's "I'm waiting for all the facts", which is very similar to "I need more context" comments during videos of police brutality. It's denial framed as reservation.
"There was not yet been an element for me to cherry-pick that would fit my distorted and heinous world view."
Just waiting for the talking heads on Fox to tell them what to believe
Ah "context" that age old rhetorical shit every person with a terrible world view pulls out when they are being proven wrong.
That's exactly how they're framing it now.
https://bsky.app/profile/annastasia77.bsky.social/post/3lynpbwcnwc2p
sorry it's a bsky link, didn't want to send traffic to the site formerly known as.
LMFAO "his family seemed to be upstanding people."
You can only be upstanding if you fall in line with these fascist filth apparently.
White kid from conservative family shoots conservative personality.
These fucks are violent and unhinged.
wait, a governer was assassinated?
No, state senators were shortly before the No kings protests
No, I screwed up the details. Might as well have said a store clerk in Idaho.
To be fair, CNN reports:
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-death-09-12-25
I mean, was he wrong?
Absolutely not
We've already seen the playbook, though. His race only matters if he's not white. His sexuality only matters if it's not heterosexual. His gender only matters if he's trans. His religion only matters if it's not Christian. His politics only matter if he's not Republican. Source: Last summer's attempted assassination attempt against Trump.
But honestly, none of that matters. Most people did not reason themselves into their opinion on this matter (minds were made up before there was any evidence or credible suspect at all), and most of the time you cannot reason people out of an opinion if they did not reason themselves into it. Which sucks. But also, this applies to us all, so hopefully most of us are keeping that in mind.
Lmfao is this real?
You, and my brain asking that, every 30 seconds or so.
is anything even real anymore dude
Bruh.
Okay even assuming christianity is even real, why can't a black person "find jesus"? Pretty sure racism isn't part of scripture...
Oh yea that's right, they are just cosplaying as christians, not real christians.
Ironically, they would look better if they just maintained the "death penalty" stance and omit the "jesus" bullshit. At least then it wouldn't be racist.
If this is the Christianity that keeps winning popularity contests, then maybe it is what Christians really are.
No true christian. Lmao. Let's not excuse people based on fallacy.
Some people are good. Some people are christian. This doesn't add up to 'good people are christian'. Most christians are not good people. Most people aren't good people, ffs.
It's like saying no real human would commit/condone genocide, yet here we are in a world full of genocides.
Da fuck.
The whiplash from that is insane
I think it's interesting to see the news media go back to naming and focusing on shooters. When big school shootings began to happen they talked all about the shooters and what could have led them to do what they did. That accidentally became a great incentive for copycats because many were outcasts wanting similar infamy and their stories to be told.
Then over the years most news media tried to just focus on the victims and communities impacted. Shootings still happen, but how often do you hear the shooter named on the news? Even for major events like the trump assassination attempts they didn't really focus a lot on who the shooters were.
It seems that recent shooters are getting a lot more attention again. All it takes is to assassinate someone and get away just long enough to force them to name your and show your face, messages you left on the scene etc. This runs the risk of starting a whole new copycat trend and I think we're seeing that starting here
Personally I would prefer shooters to shoot political opponents of students any day of the week.
Yeah, students didn't here and generally don't do anything to justifiably put themselves in the crosshairs. Politicians, on the other hand, make enemies like it's their job. I prefer no violence. I prefer direct to indirect consequences. Usually we can't get everything we want.
Sorry guys hate to say this but Tyler Robinson was with me kayaking in Pennsylvania on Sept. 10 around 2-3pm I have or can come up with evidence to corroborate this.
I was sure it was you two at the time but didn't want to intrude by paddling over to say hello. It was at that one spot, you know the place, name escapes me but it's where I definitely saw you both.
Funny thing. I was in a helicopter at that exact place and time looking down at all three of you. From up there, I could see all the way across you know, towards the great uh those things. It was amazing and very memorable, for the exact time and exact day the alibi was required
I just happened to be operating a government spy satellite watching your helicopter, as one does, while you were watching the three of them! I can confirm that all four of these people were at the specified place at the specified time doing the specified activities.
They forgot “illegal latino” with blue hair!
“Trans illegal Latino prison escapee with blue hair” but also black and Muslim at the same time of course.
Yeah it was pretty clear, he actually knew how to shoot
That will probably set them off even more. I can already here the exclamations about how the radical left is brainwashing good, young, Christian men into doing their dirty work.
Not necessarily. It might just be quietly buried.
Just like Kirk
After the suspect was a Republican white cis boy they are definitely more quiet to be honest.
They really need to read a book, Che Guevara is an OG leftist icon and yet was white and grew up in a Catholic family.
70 years ago whites all agreed they hated catholics
It's hilarious (in a sick way) that before Germany got all into the hating on the Jews thing, they were all into hating on the Catholics.
Shit I fucking hate Catholics too, wtf is your point?
you assume they can read
Wait. Wasn't he also homophobic, etc.? Genuinely can't recall. 🙇🏼♂️
He made some racist and homophobic comments when he was very young, before he ever became a revolutionary (far right assholes love to bring this up) but he eventually preached a message of unity (something the aforementioned assholes always conveniently leave out)
I was extremely puzzled about "anti-fa trans rhetoric" combo could fit on a bullet, but "catch"... ok, got it.
"Hey Fascist! Catch! ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️" is a reference to throwing a Strategem Ball from the game Helldivers 2 (in this case, it spawns the largest explosion players have easy access to) and the phrase "hey catch" is a community meme in that context.
Dude was a real memelord, is what I'm saying. Nice aim, too.
Which is a tiny bit ironic because super earth is an over the top parody of fascists.
But also
Nah that irony is why it's included - the game is very openly anti-fascist, and the community (tho it ofc has it's own weirdos) is the same. Lots of "are we the baddies" memes (right now especially with the gloom expedition arc)
"An Eagle never misses!"
He was just serving up a nice hot cup of liberTEA.
Yep. Supposedly the Colorado school shooter followed some kind of right wing extremist group, too, but I haven't seen that from a source I trust yet.
Bella Ciao says it all IMO. Dude made a statement but I'm not sure the intended audience is willing to hear it.
Hey there friend, I know bella ciao is Italian for bye beautiful in English but I don’t get any references. Could I ask you for a bit of explanation what you mean or a point in the correct direction?
Title of an Italian anti fascist song.
Bella ciao is an antifascist partisan song from Italy.
Which has apparently also been used by groypers, according to the paragraph I just read in your Wikilink
Which tells us nothing that we didn't already know about the reading comprehension and self-awareness of groypers 🤷
just look it up, it's meaning has very specific intentions
Who's the intended audience? Fascists that will never realize they're wrong or leftists that he is looking to inspire?
he put that stuff on his bullets for some reason and he's killed someone who he described as spreading hate. He's an angry Republican. His message to the right is that he is Antifascist and not a liberal
I hate living in Starmer's america.
MAGA on MAGA crime
TBF, if the engravings on the casings are legit, then he's definitely a leftist.
(EDIT 9/12/25 - I am relatively certain that if these bullet casing even exist, then they were planted, because every other piece of evidence about the shooter that exists seems to suggest he was extremely conservative. examples: https://archive.is/e3oVv / https://archive.is/20250912221507/https://www.thedailybeast.com/charlie-kirk-suspects-grandma-says-family-is-all-maga/ )
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/12/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-gun-casings-inscriptions/86111606007/
Still not sure wtf they were talking about with "trans ideology"...
All this said, I'm happy to see the left is finally sacking up. I'm actually glad its not just a right-wing nut. Its (supposedly) a socially responsible kid who saw the crap that was happening in his country and found the willpower to do something about it.
All of this said, I don't think he actually did it. I'm relatively sure he's being framed.
The "trans ideology" was "TRN", a marking engraved on the casing by the ammo manufacturer, Turan Ammo.
lol... ughh.... the wall street journal is a complete shit hole.
True, but it's important to note that the misinformation they fell for was from AP, which ALL of the billionaire-owned media quote and consider neutral and professional beyond reproach.
Might as hell burn the whole thing down and start over 😮💨
wall street journal, as far as i know was the very first to publish it, after, I believe, steven crowder posted it on twitter.
Casings? I thought it was one shot?
The gun was loaded with more than 1 round
People of any political leaning should be anti-fascist, to be honest. I think the point is that he was brought up with 'republican values' and taught how to use guns as a child.
Yup. Fascism is such an extreme-right ideology that you're no longer leaning anywhere, you're blindly stumbling off the hateful edge of sanity and coherence.
Which is just pure fascism and has been for several years..
i get the feeling those republican values, outside of being a hell of a shot, didn't take hold. and congrats to him for that.
up arrow symbol, a right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols
That's the input code to drop a 500kg bomb in Helldivers 2
o no.... now video games are going to get blamed too....
The daily mail are saying the 3 down arrows could be a reference to the Iron Front lol
...really?!
I mean.. that's fucking hilarious.
Sadly it was actually just a manufacturer's mark (TRN) that they mistook for trans messaging.
i find it a bit crazy that a cop would be unfimiliar with ammunition branding. unless they jsut wanted to spread some shit.
Fucking furries doing political assassinations, this is why we were supposed to stop mocking them. That and that it's in bad taste and we'd like the internet to stay up.
If everything presented is reasonably true yeah this is someone similar to the guy who missed Trump. The right wing primed him for violence and trained him with firearms and probably taught him that guns are how we protect against tyranny. Then he started moving left and suddenly saw that the right is moving us towards tyranny.
The trump shooter was disillusioned and angry he'd been tricked. I'm curious what this man has to say but it sounds like he may have met some of the people the right is preaching against and decided to kill a hate merchant.
he seems innocent to me.
This sounds like something that MAGA would say if somebody killed a left-wing activist.
here's me not giving a fuck.
Just a reminder that the Supreme Commander of the Allied Expeditionary Forces in Europe in charge of beating the Nazis and other fascists was later the Republican President of the United States, among whose goals was preventing the spread of communism. You don’t need to be leftist to hate fascists.
Nice of these MAGA parents to train super competent Antifa super soldiers lol. He probably realized how brainwashed his family was. It’s got to be super crazy and scary for a kid to start critically thinking and realize you’re family is in some kind of brainwashed maga trance
The right wing may as well be giving me blowjobs today, id actually enjoy it less than the dopamine hits I'm getting on x today. beyond orgasmic watching their mental gymnastics and writing their alt facts trying to cope with reality
This ended up being debunked; let's not spread it around.
Tyler Robinson is an incredibly common name, and this ended up being a random dude who bought that house with his wife.
you're right, my bad
Whew...and the assuming Orange Kool-Aid guzzlers can eat shit. Are the low-life MAGAts sacrificing themselves for fake fucking news?
How can people have so much love for someone who only preached hate? White americans Christians...
There's no hate better than Christian love!
People love to hate
Is maga gonna go after the groypers like they would the liberals? Of course not! ...
TRUMP already changed the subject on this.
What's wrong with teaching kids how to use guns early? It's better than them playing with guns they find in the shelf and end up shooting themselves or their siblings.
The problem is always the same: white supremacy. Every mass shooter has come from that, maybe try to curb that shit before you try throwing stuff at the wall and hoping it sticks?
How about doing something about the guns lying around on shelves instead?
And how is that underlying problem different for people of color?
are there lots of people of color doing racially motivated mass shootings that i haven't heard of?
Well actually, we were just about to hear Kirk prove that they are, with completely real facts and statistics.
Unfortunately, he lost his voice right at the exact moment that he was spreading unfounded hate speech about trans people and minorities.
There are a lot of people of color dying in gun related accidents. That's what we were talking about...
If you want to reduce the number of "people of color dying in gun related accidents" the first step would be to disarm the police...
Every single mass shooter was a radicalized right wing white supremacist.
There is no benefit on not teaching kids to respect guns as dangerous devices.
There is a slight difference between teaching kids that guns are dangerous and teaching kids how to use them.
You can also totally teach kids the dangers of car traffic without having them drive one.
Kids used to learn gun safety classes and even bring their guns to school for target practice later.
Sheltering kids from guns in a country with more guns than people is not a good decision.
Normalizing using them is also not a good decision.
And I must confess, such statements sound so completely bizarre to me that I instantly think them to be satire.
Brother, it's already normalized. Acting like keeping kids ignorant will stop gun violence is a fairytale dream. Literally every person who takes a gun class gets drilled through all of it to NEVER point it at anyone. It's not just about learning how to use them, it's about how to be safe with them. Do you also think teaching a kid defensive driving before they can drive is useless?
I am actually somewhat with you on that.
But you don't need to do active shooting (or even have access to a real gun) to drill that.
I don’t think the guns should be on the shelf to begin with.
Well, there's 400 million guns in all of the US and about 1/3rd of all households on the US have a gun on them. Keeping kids ignorant about guns when 1/3rd of them have one at their homes (not owned by them, mind you) is a recipe for accidents.
It is almost like we should do something about this.... I know, I know banning only works for Trans, Gays, Abortions, DEI, Woke, Mail in ballots, Refugees, Immigrants, Books, Drag Queens, Words, etc.
Tell me your brilliant plan about how to get rid of 400 million weapons and I'll listen to it, because the people who need to give up their guns won't sell them on buybacks.
Tell me the right's brilliant plan to get rid of everything I just mentioned.
Oh I get it, it is too big of a problem to take care of.
Pry my guns out of my cold dead hands and all that nonsense.
Just think if you were around during slavery. They are not going to give up their slaves! Lol
Do you have a serious question here or was this just rhetorical?
Feels like this is the same logic that is used to ban sex education - they shouldn’t have sex until marriage so you shouldn’t teach them about it. I accept that kids will have access to fully loaded genitals, so I want them to understand and respect the consequences and to be able to act responsibly.
As much as I would like firearm access to be restricted and regulated, I accept that in the world we live in they’re not going anywhere, anytime soon. I also think alcohol is deadly, both for the consumer and the people around them, but I’d rather teach my kid to drink responsibly than send them off to college unprepared; I’ve seen too many sheltered kids go fucking crazy once they’re out from their parent’s thumb.
I’ve always felt that harm reduction was an admirable thing. Accept and work with human nature instead of against it. I don’t want people shooting up heroin, but I support giving away free, clean needles to prevent even worse outcomes. Doesn’t mean I endorse or encourage the activity.
It was rhetorical! Not you, the other guy.
I mean I am not feeling the sex analogy at all.
Firearm restrictions already exist and work. We just need better ones. You know when you need a regulation? When it has become a problem. Clearly losing 2,500 children and 48,000 adults in one year to guns is a sign something must be done. But clearly we need to deal with trans people in our restrooms!
I am a big fan of thinking around issues so I am open to any ideas that can benefit both parties. There will always be a loser, the devil in the details is minimizing this for the greater good.
Totally agree with harm reduction. Believe it or not there are lots of good solutions to our problems especially if you are willing to entertain harm reduction. We can solve drug addiction, homelessness, gun violence, most crime, incarceration, hell just about everything.
I'm not saying it's too big of a problem, I'm asking what kind of idea you have. Because I would entertain any idea that doesn't result in the biggest string of police brutality incidents ever recorded in history, or is as effective on preventing cancer as a cigarrete filter.
Oh sure, we have thought up several ways. The best in my opinion is to require a combination of psych exams yearly, insurance, and a tax penalty for having more than x many.
This would use our existing system to deal with the problem monetarily.
As far as ending the proliferation this can be accomplished by allowing people to sue manufactures for producing unsafe products. There is no other tool responsible for thousand of child deaths a year and if there was and they didn't stop they would be sued out of existence.
Modern technology can also build a smart gun that won't kill its owner, family members, etc. An Igun if you will. The fact that we don't already have this shows that proper regulations have not been applied.
I have thought of tons of ways to deal with this for sure. It really is not hard, but people are very resistant to even logical solutions.
Nothing wrong with teaching kids to use guns early but a lot of America has a cultural fetish for firearms and it's important not to pass that to your kids
The "fetish for firearms" comes from not treating firearms like tools, and that's something actual good teachers would do a lot better than ammosexual parents.
Why would they be finding guns on the shelf?
no he's a black trans muslim immigrant democrat. I've got proof!
Cop dad.
This doesn't seem like a very Starmer thing to say, or is the joke here that the Parody_PM account is saying things our PM might say if he were a sane man who understood humour, and didn't get off on genocide and fascism?
It's the Keir Starmer you guys didn't get. You get the lame version.
Just wondering is there evidence his family are republicans I tried looking it up but can’t find anything other than his dad being a sheriff or something
This reeks of a frame job
Unlike christians?
Is that so? Or is that just a correlation?
So, ultra-conservatives being LGBTQ haters and incidentally also having a high probability of being Christian?
That would put the implied causality in question. I personally don't like such generalizations. That's what the right-wing agitators are doing and I really don't want to decent to such a level myself.
Fascist propaganda is independent from facts and logic.
Surely that'd depend on the Muslim? Like, Islam is a very large religion and religious people rarely follow or consider valid all their stated rules to the letter, and disagree with eachother over the interpretation of those they do. I don't know what exactly the Koran says on the matter, but given the terminology and understanding around gender (and available technology for transition) has changed a fair bit since the time it was written, I'd be fairly surprised if it said anything as clear as "you must not be trans" that didn't leave room for interpretation and disagreement.
the fuck does Islam have to do with anything?
If you read the first line of the image from OP that started this thread, you may find your answer.
Islam might be, but that doesnt stop there being muslim trans people, or muslim gay people
Yeah, that part doesn't make sense.
And aren't Latinos the standard scapegoats in the US?
Projecting hate on Muslim foreigners I would consider to be more a European thing?
Yeah, but you’re not allowed to say that out loud
No, you don't get it. That's how strong the left-wing mind control is! All they need is one semester to turn your kid into a homicidal gay trans communist!
In the second semester they turn students Muslim, or at the very least some kind of Spanish.
he said he was a right winger, with lEFT WING brain. so a conservative leftist lol.
Bros literally asking for the cultural revolution to happen in America while he says everyone else is brainwashed but him lmao
Lmao
This is fucking hilarious, honestly. Keep going, do more.
I honestly thought this was a new copypasta was about to upvote it before I realized I just saw a screenshot of this exact comment elsewhere in the thread.